bidexiii:



They only act on executive order: they don’t see it has a duty they should always execute often.

Hammer on the nail's head. I just can't get why they behave like that. Never do their job (as commanded by the constitution) until an executive order comes. Who will save them from bewitchment

GabrielYulaw:


My apologies, but I don't believe they are overstretched. If that were so they wouldn't be mounting road blocks all over the South East and south South when there's police for that.

How many soldiers does it take to man a road block

Are you sure those manning roadblocks are Infanteers/Arty guys etc or just cooks and bandsmen (I met one like that sha )

Odunayaw:
How many soldiers does it take to man a road block

Are you sure those manning roadblocks are Infanteers/Arty guys etc or just cooks and bandsmen (I met one like that sha )

Even though they’re are going infantry soldiers or MP, soldiers are soldiers.
They’re not there for decoration the South south or south east his volatile and there is a reason why they’re there!

yoged:
(1)We retired the Jaguars because there was nothing for it to fight. Retired our Combattante missile boats because there was no surface threat. Retired the Merlin anti-submarine helicopter because there was no submarine threat. We retired the MiGs because there was no threat. https:///33X3b64Skz

The thread on twitter worth reading . Really sad . Heavy corruption in the military starting from 1980 that saw a lot of Generals, even Colonels become owners of large tracts of lands for farms and billions in real estate and stashed cash, led to the neglect of this vital equipment.once bitten twice shy. https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1264062629007556608?s=19

I almost cried reading this piece.
We don't have threats in the past was just because we have what it takes to destroy the threats. Now that we have destroyed the destroyer of threats, we have more threats than we can ever imagined. As I am speaking, we have foreign bases all round us waiting in case we should explode.
For those of you saying that we have no threats, I shouldn't be the one to tell you that we have more threats, possible more than Egypt and Algeria. That threats has not been practically pronounced doesn't mean its absence. Although the said threats has not been fully matured, we should be prepared possible for the worst.
Just like Iran, we are gradually being surrounded by foreign bases and troops in name of fighting terrorist and other mini excuses but their true intentions has not yet been revealed. And if they could gain entrance into Nigeria, that means Africa as a whole is finished. It will be worst than slave trade. Forget democracy, it doesn't work in this case and we all that. Western countries can plan your downfall for more than 30 years and still execute it perfectly when the time comes using the same "democracy" as an excuse. Democracy is more perfectly written/explained in paper than in real life practice.
It is time to be alart and defend the Nation

yoged:


The thread on twitter worth reading . Really sad . Heavy corruption in the military starting from 1980 that saw a lot of Generals, even Colonels become owners of large tracts of lands for farms and billions in real estate and stashed cash, led to the neglect of this vital equipment.once bitten twice shy. https://twitter.com/DefenseNigeria/status/1264062629007556608?s=19

Lies easily spotted.

We spend $700 million acquiring two state of the art stealth Chinese OPV and refuse a $45 million package to arm the ship with anti-air craft missiles, anti-ship missiles and torpedoes. We turn down the offer because there was no credible threat to our surface fleet.

In 2015 the Nigerian Army Ordnance Corp completely destroys strategic ammunition belong to the Nigerian Navy because there was no threat. The weapons destroyed are our stock of 45 Ottomat Missiles anti-ship missiles and 20 practise missiles. Seacat Missiles, Aspide missiles

For God's sake must lies be added to anything to make it dramatic?

Juchii:


I almost cried reading this piece.
We don't have threats in the past just because we have what it takes to destroy the threats.

You would have cried in vain.

bidexiii:



Even though they’re are going infantry soldiers or MP, soldiers are soldiers.
They’re not there for decoration the South south or south east his volatile and there is a reason why they’re there!

True sha, it was a light hearted comment tho.

SBS

Odunayaw:
How many soldiers does it take to man a road block

Are you sure those manning roadblocks are Infanteers/Arty guys etc or just cooks and bandsmen (I met one like that sha )

There are like 3-5 per roadblock. That might not seem like much, except that there's absolutely no reason for them to be there and they are vastly more needed in the North.
Cooks and bandsmen? The people I am talking about wear full army uniform, and mostly use Hilux trucks painted the typical army green. Even their checkpoints have army camo on the empty oil barrels used for the roadblocks and on the stones and logs used to block the road. That weak me.

Odunayaw:
SBS

Very good. It might be just me, but I think showing faces of serving personnel is unprofessional.

bidexiii:



Even though they’re are going infantry soldiers or MP, soldiers are soldiers.
They’re not there for decoration the South south or south east his volatile and there is a reason why they’re there!

I disagree. If any place can be said to be volatile, it is the North and the North alone. There is no cogent reason these people are there, except to act as an army of occupation.

Odunayaw:
Lies easily spotted.

We spend $700 million acquiring two state of the art stealth Chinese OPV and refuse a $45 million package to arm the ship with anti-air craft missiles, anti-ship missiles and torpedoes. We turn down the offer because there was no credible threat to our surface fleet.

In 2015 the Nigerian Army Ordnance Corp completely destroys strategic ammunition belong to the Nigerian Navy because there was no threat. The weapons destroyed are our stock of 45 Ottomat Missiles anti-ship missiles and 20 practise missiles. Seacat Missiles, Aspide missiles

For God's sake must lies be added to anything to make it dramatic?

I don't know what the guys seeks to gain. $700m will buy us two frigates but u can't correct someone who does not want to be corrected...he leads the gullible on twitter.

Odunayaw:
Lies easily spotted.

We spend $700 million acquiring two state of the art stealth Chinese OPV and refuse a $45 million package to arm the ship with anti-air craft missiles, anti-ship missiles and torpedoes. We turn down the offer because there was no credible threat to our surface fleet.

In 2015 the Nigerian Army Ordnance Corp completely destroys strategic ammunition belong to the Nigerian Navy because there was no threat. The weapons destroyed are our stock of 45 Ottomat Missiles anti-ship missiles and 20 practise missiles. Seacat Missiles, Aspide missiles

For God's sake must lies be added to anything to make it dramatic?

OK. Could you tell us how much those Chinese OPV cost and why perfectly good missiles were destroyed if they indeed were.

Modified: Just checked Wikipedia. It says the ships cost $42 million apiece.

Fynline:


I don't know what the guys seeks to gain. $700m will buy us two frigates but u can't correct someone who does not want to be corrected...he leads the gullible on twitter.

Although, he has been helpful in many other ways. This is not to excuse his unprofessional exaggerations though.

GabrielYulaw:


My apologies, but you don't appear to understand how weapon and aircraft acquisition works. Say I went and bought a hundred F-22s, that would be very nice, right?

However, not all of the aircraft can be available for missions at all times. Aircraft availability is never 100% and varies widely. So, if I want the greatest possible aircraft to be available for missions, one way to do that is to buy as many as possible.
So, buying a hundred F-22s and supposing they have a 70% availability rate means around 70 will be available at any time. Buying only 50 of those planes and with their availability rate means less than 40 available at any one time.

That sucks. And that's why I can never be a fan of the NA buying weaponry in trickles from every country on the globe, when it should be buying in quantity.

You are also right- buying hardware does not make you powerful. You need to know how to use it to be powerful.

That is the main reason the Arab countries have never been able to defeat Israel, because Israelis train harder than anyone else and value competency, while the Arabs value nepotism, corruption and loyalty to the regime above everything else.

Give the Arabs an F-22 and give Israel biplanes from World War 1 and they will still win, because they are superbly innovative and competent. I don't like them, but I do respect them.

That's also why little Chad was able to beat Ghaddafi silly during the Chadian-Libyan war. And capture huge quantities of materiel.

As for ISIS in Iraq, the Iraqi army at that time was corrupt and inept to the limit. There were more than a few ghost soldiers, added so money could be made.

The Iraqi soldiers lacked the will to fight and were very poorly led. They abandoned perfectly good M1 Abrams tanks in the face of ISIS advances, even though ISIS lacked any notable anti-tank weaponry bigger than RPG 7s. They just ran because they didn't want to fight at all and it wasn't what they signed up for.

need to add some details here :

- for mighty israel superbly trained and competent. that lost miserably against small hezbollah group in lebanon 2006 , you forget Mighty USA in the equation , israelian army is built to resist a war few weeks until USA hudge military bridge and help come . without US mother they cant sustein a long war , egyptian army alone will erase them in one month or two . ( that's my own opinion about this )


- For tchad libyan war , same , some poeple forget , that france was dierectly involved , that libyan army was going to take even ndjamenna and south tchad with rebels but french army launched operation Tacaud ( 18 french military died, two planes lost ) , that stopped libyan army 430 km before ndjamenna , than Manta operation ( with 8 Jaguars, 2 C-135F, 7 Mirage F1C, 2 Breguet Atlantic , 26 C-160 Transall , 3 DC-8 and 30 hélicopters between (SA 341/342 Gazelle et SA330 Puma). Crotale air defense systems SNERI and Spartiate radars thousand soldiers , than last hudge epervier operation that stopped libyan at the 16th parallel and helped tchadian to reverse the situation ( french lost 158 soldiers in tchad) , and there is a lot of other small french operation to protect tchad , even US intelligence services were directly involved and cooperated with french .

here a very intersting site in french : detailing all this war and the French operations during the war http://aerohisto..com/2013/12/de-manta-epervier-operations-aeriennes.html

and all french miliary bases around the region are meant for this kind of operations , nigerian army is surrounded with french bases , as all african armies in the region should be aware of this danger

- and for irak it was an internal religious civil war , the shiit and sunits iraki factions got into a bloody war , realy difficult to stop an armed uprising of hudge part of its population.

GabrielYulaw:


There are like 3-5 per roadblock. That might not seem like much, except that there's absolutely no reason for them to be there and they are vastly more needed in the North.
Cooks and bandsmen? The people I am talking about wear full army uniform, and mostly use Hilux trucks painted the typical army green. Even their checkpoints have army camo on the empty oil barrels used for the roadblocks and on the stones and logs used to block the road. That weak me.

I get you perfectly, its perplexing to me too. Police just wan useless. Down West they are highly kitted with torchlight and change (If you know, you know)

GabrielYulaw:


Very good. It might be just me, but I think showing faces of serving personnel is unprofessional.

IMO, only guys on front lines should blur faces except official pictures from the Services. Before now, the SBS had very strict rules on pictures. I guess they relaxed them because Military gaz garner support from populace.

Do you know literate Nigerians still don't know we have Special teams even with all the noise

S400:


need to add some details here :

- for mighty israel superbly trained and competent. that lost miserably against small hezbollah group in lebanon 2006 , you forget Mighty USA in the equation , israelian army is built to resist a war few weeks until USA hudge military bridge and help come . without US mother they cant sustein a long war , egyptian army alone will erase them in one month or two . ( that's my own opinion about this )


- For tchad libyan war , same , some poeple forget , that france was dierectly involved , that libyan army was going to take even ndjamenna and south tchad with rebels but french army launched operation Tacaud ( 18 french military died, two planes lost ) , that stopped libyan army 430 km before ndjamenna , than Manta operation ( with 8 Jaguars, 2 C-135F, 7 Mirage F1C, 2 Breguet Atlantic , 26 C-160 Transall , 3 DC-8 and 30 hélicopters between (SA 341/342 Gazelle et SA330 Puma). Crotale air defense systems SNERI and Spartiate radars thousand soldiers , than last hudge epervier operation that stopped libyan at the 16th parallel and helped tchadian to reverse the situation ( french lost 158 soldiers in tchad) , and there is a lot of other small french operation to protect tchad , even US intelligence services were directly involved and cooperated with french .

here a very intersting site in french : detailing all this war and the French operations during the war http://aerohisto..com/2013/12/de-manta-epervier-operations-aeriennes.html

- and for irak it was an internal religious civil war , the shiit and sunits iraki factions got into a bloody war , realy difficult to stop an armed uprising of hudge part of its population.

I see. I guess I forgot some things.

GabrielYulaw:


OK. Could you tell us how much those Chinese OPV cost and why perfectly good missiles were destroyed if they indeed were.

Modified: Just checked Wikipedia. It says the ships cost $42 million apiece.

I'm glad you did little research to find the price!

What perfectly good missiles. The missiles that were destroyed were all past their shelf lives and were even more harmful than good!

Odunayaw:
I'm glad you did little research to find the price!

What perfectly good missiles. The missiles that were destroyed were all past their shelf lives and were even more harmful than good!

Past their shelf life? Even so I wouldn't mind paying a token so they could give me one of these missiles to hang in my living room. Yes, I know it's not safe, but something must kill a man and there's nothing sexier than a missile

Fynline:


I don't know what the guys seeks to gain. $700m will buy us two frigates but u can't correct someone who does not want to be corrected...he leads the gullible on twitter.

Some people will hear anything as far as its bad/sad

Odunayaw:
Some people will hear anything as far as its bad/sad

That's a way of putting it. Another way is that some people will hear and believe anything so long as the people accused of something have a track record of doing what's similar to the thing they are accused of.

GabrielYulaw:


That's a way of putting it. Another way is that some people will hear and believe anything so long as the people accused of something have a track record of doing what's similar to the thing they are accused of.

Then faculty of reasoning is thrown to the dogs

Odunayaw:
Then faculty of reasoning is thrown to the dogs

Arguing with that dude is a waste of time !

Our army is indeed overstretched. But that's down to the misuse of our policemen. I read a statistic early this week on Twitter that 20-40% of our police are assigned to VIP and other persons. Unfortunately, Nigeria has massive security issues hence Soldiers are drafted in to paper over cracks wherever there are hotspots.

If we had no oil wealth to sustain such significant numbers of army and soldiers, I shudder at what we'd have become.

bidex111:


Arguing with that dude is a waste of time !

Thanks for the compliment. I really appreciate it from the bottom of my heart.

the Deep blue project is Going to have Alot of packages for us.
The Surveillance aircrafts are almost complete and it looks like The ISR variant of the Gulfstream or Dassault Falcon
Armoured vehicles too but I wonder why they didn't buy the ARA oo.e dey vex me
While the Drones are Handlauched drones possible Remoeye UAV of South Korea marketed by Proforce.
The C4i center is set
@Kabe2
@bidexiii
@GabrielYulaw
@Odunayaw
@S400
@Komen
@BlackBaron
@Fynline

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1264177211713753088?s=20

Toju200:
the Deep blue project is Going to have Alot of packages for us.
The Surveillance aircrafts are almost complete and it looks like The ISR variant of the Gulfstream or Dassault Falcon
Armoured vehicles too but I wonder why they didn't buy the ARA oo.e dey vex me
While the Drones are Handlauched drones possible Remoeye UAV of South Korea marketed by Proforce.
The C4i center is set
@Kabe2
@bidexiii
@GabrielYulaw
@Odunayaw
@S400
@Komen
@BlackBaron
@Fynline

https://twitter.com/Jakepor21/status/1264177211713753088?s=20

Will this ISR be overland or water?

GabrielYulaw:


Will this ISR be overland or water?

I really don't know if it's both or only Maritime (Water)

GabrielYulaw:


Enough with the negativity. We produce lots o. Like Amala, ewedu and akpu

Lol

U wan kill person

Toju200:
I really don't know if it's both or only Maritime (Water)

OK. Both would be very nice.