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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:34pm On May 24, 2020
TayserMahri:


You have too much of the primitive energy sam wink




What I said is the truth...you can post it let us see or should I post...I have this very one I watched from afrikaan traveler some months back...it's like Mombasa and Mogadishu combined. .
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:36pm On May 24, 2020
Mombasa CBD is called the old town - and still better than Abuja a new town. Mombasa was started in 10th century. Those times there were no cars...so the streets are narrow....Mombasa CBD being part of Old town is protected area...so you cannot build or demolish anything at will. The streets are narrow by design - it like you got to old Italian or greek town.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oArWUfHIOw

samorobo:


There is no deflectimg this psychologically..what I saw was Mombasa cbd which apparently abs shockingly is a slum...
If I want to see your slum then all I need do is input owing our in Mombasa and greet my view with the horrendous state of your urbanisation. ...I am talking of tge city itself..cape Town has slum but the city centre is not a slum...the city center of capeople town is competing with Australia and many major cities in Europe. .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:37pm On May 24, 2020
rvp20182:
You're looking for attention. People pay a lot of money to go to Mombasa. Maybe you saw slum in Mombasa. Mombasa has slums. Capetown has slums.

Mombasa is a beautiful city with world-class beaches.

South Coast - Diani Beach - that is literally god gift to the world. If you ever afford - go there. In Africa - Zanzibar, Seychelles, DIani, one Egypt beach and that is basically GOD GIFT to Africa!! in beaches.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ITVT4v_csrI

The north coast - also have very good beaches. Nyali basically beat anything you have in Lagos - banana crap or entire west africa.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA9SvQRj3EU



Stop deflectimg. .we are not talking about beaches made by nature..we are talking of tge city centre which humans built..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:39pm On May 24, 2020
Bring ibandan or any of your shitty "old town" and compare it with Mombasa old CBD - that dates 10th century. Lamu is also old town protected by UNESCO. You see an old town with 10th century streets - and you ran all over Naira for days one end claiming Mombasa has tiny narrow streets smiley smiley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwGB63Z94Q
samorobo:



Stop deflectimg. .we are not talking about beaches made by nature..we are talking of tge city centre which humans built..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 4:42pm On May 24, 2020
kikuyu1:


No.Just.No. Before you came we totally demolished their entire catalogue of agri stats the last we looked at being their rice. On paper they produce a healthy amount of rice-the stats however show neighbouring Benin consuming at least 160 kg per capita of rice.
Do the math!
so, why is Nigeria generating more revenue from agriculture than Kenya?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:43pm On May 24, 2020
rvp20182:
Mombasa CBD is called the old town - and still better than Abuja a new town. Mombasa was started in 10th century. Those times there were no cars...so the streets are narrow....Mombasa CBD being part of Old town is protected area...so you cannot build or demolish anything at will. The streets are narrow by design - it like you got to old Italian or greek town.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8oArWUfHIOw



Mombasa CBD better than Abuja .how? That must be madness or one of your cheap talk...
I am not even talking about the narrow roads cos older European city have more narrow road with old relic of a building that still looks world class alongside the roads....I am talking about the entire city infastructure
.it has broken down completely and need total revamping..that place called Mombasa is one hell of a mess...a disgusting market with perishables you call a CBD..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:44pm On May 24, 2020
theenchanter:
u no see say I no bother to reply d mumu. If u ask them to pay even $5b right now and all their debt will be forgiven, I bet they'll still ask the creditor for the $5b as loan, they can't cough out $5b just like that..... Even their biggest infrastructural project since independence fund was borrowed, common $3b pere. grin

Too proud to accept that Nigeria's debt was forgiven to avoid crippling the economy while Kenya has never gotten to that level of poor highly indebted nations.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:45pm On May 24, 2020
Mombasa is huge - metro has 3.5M people. If you're concerned about Mombasa old town. I can tell you for free it's better than Abuja despite the protection laws put in place to ensure it not destroyed. Obviously it not like European old towns because we don't have money to maintain it that well - but better than anything in Nigeria - including new town of Abuja.
samorobo:

Mombasa CBD better than Abuja .how? That must be madness or one of your cheap talk...
I am not even talking about the narrow roads cos older European city have more narrow road with old relic of a building that still looks world class alongside the roads....I am talking about the entire city infastructure
.it has broken down completely and need total revamping..that place called Mombasa is one hell of a mess...a disgusting market with perishables you call a CBD..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:46pm On May 24, 2020
Mombasa old town - bring your brand new Abuja video. Bring your empty gov offices city and compare it with city of culture like Mombasa that dates 10th centuries.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHHWyO01mr0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwGB63Z94Q&t=151s
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:48pm On May 24, 2020
samorobo:


There is no deflectimg this psychologically..what I saw was Mombasa cbd which apparently abs shockingly is a slum...
If I want to see your slum then all I need do is input owing our in Mombasa and greet my view with the horrendous state of your urbanisation. ...I am talking of tge city itself..cape Town has slum but the city centre is not a slum...the city center of capeople town is competing with Australia and many major cities in Europe. .

sammy is a mombasologist too wink and he's comparing Mombasa with CT instead of the raggedy Lagoon cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 4:49pm On May 24, 2020
samorobo:





What I said is the truth...you can post it let us see or should I post...I have this very one I watched from afrikaan traveler some months back...it's like Mombasa and Mogadishu combined. .

post it YT man shocked
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:53pm On May 24, 2020
Yes, he watched many kenya videos, because he is great admirer. I wonder why he think Mombasa doesn't have wide roads. I guess ignorance. This video from Mombasa airport

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPwGB63Z94Q&t=151s
TayserMahri:


sammy is a mombasologist too wink and he's comparing Mombasa with CT instead of the raggedy Lagoon cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 4:55pm On May 24, 2020
rvp2018:
Samrobo - your wet dreams are just wet-dreams
According to https://www.skyscrapercenter.com/

Sub-Sahara Africa.

In terms of tall building (include those that are in dreams/visions) South Africa lead with 93.

Kenya follows with 45.

Nigeria -poor Nigeria - 10. Those completed are 3 smiley and 3 more in construction and 4 more in wet dreams.
Tanzania 9 -a relic of the communists.
And Ghana - poor little Nigeria - 2.


Dude I am too smart to be heckled by your noise and lies...you and I know very well to our individual bones that this list is older than your sgr ×2...
85% of the buildings on that list have been completed even the proposed ones...this was probably when nairobi was in a boom..now you have Ethiopia and probably TZ leading in that...no serious building plan is made for nairobi anymore.. everything crumbled like your affordable housing drama noise grin

Your list doesn't take account of new buildings U/C and completed in nigeria let alone the invidual buildings in our city project..it holds absolutely no water my friend..try again grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 4:59pm On May 24, 2020
Tanzania and Lagos has oversupply glut lasting 10yrs. Nairobi is kicking arse. There is no building delayed for lack of funding. Pinnacle and NSSF for court cases...land dispute.

Nigeria please please stop building skyscraper when electricity is not resolved...and you cannot even maintain toilets.

Nairobi is doing very well because we are attracting multinational to occupy the spaces in offices, malls and houses

You cannot just wake up and build a skyscraper like Tanzania without figuring out who will rent it.

Lagos like Ghana has no formal market for real estate....build smalls shops for small traders.

samorobo:



Dude I am too smart to be heckled by your noise and lies...you and I know very well to our individual bones that this list is older than your sgr ×2...
85% of the buildings on that list have been completed even the proposed ones...this was probably when nairobi was in a boom..now you have Ethiopia and probably TZ leading in that...no serious building plan is made for nairobi anymore.. everything crumbled like your affordable housing drama noise grin

Your list doesn't take account of new buildings U/C and completed in nigeria let alone the invidual buildings in our city project..it holds absolutely no water my friend..try again grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:04pm On May 24, 2020
TayserMahri:


Too proud to accept that Nigeria's debt was forgiven to avoid crippling the economy while Kenya has never gotten to that level of poor highly indebted nations.
our debt relief wasn't from IMF or WB but from Paris club, u don't need to be regarded as HIPC before ur debt can be pardoned. Only WB and IMF rank nations on that basis....

Kenya on d other hand couldn't meet some targets when applying for debt relief.... Blame it on ur incompetent govt.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 5:06pm On May 24, 2020
Paris club is IMF, Wb kind of donors - and the likes - the are more of donors than creditors - bilateral mostly - you borrowed from gov or such non-profit making - public debt.
London club is a commercial debt - you borrowed from private banks or debt market like Eurobond.
theenchanter:
our debt relief wasn't from IMF or WB but from Paris club, u don't need to be regarded as HIPC before ur debt can be pardoned. Only WB and IMF rank nations on that basis....

Kenya on d other hand couldn't meet some targets when applying for debt relief.... Blame it on ur incompetent govt.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:12pm On May 24, 2020
rvp20182:
Paris club is IMF, Wb kinda of donors - and the likes - the are donor - bilateral mostly.
London club is commercial debt.
u're a madman! When someone get to this level of madness, I'm always short of words for him.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:15pm On May 24, 2020
theenchanter:
our debt relief wasn't from IMF or WB but from Paris club, u don't need to be regarded as HIPC before ur debt can be pardoned. Only WB and IMF rank nations on that basis....

Kenya on d other hand couldn't meet some targets when applying for debt relief.... Blame it on ur incompetent govt.

Paris club is just IMF and WB in sheep clothing. Their hobby is to milk poor mismanaged countries like Nigeria without the hurdles of international rules. You required IMF rubber stumps along the way. As early as 1985 you took a massive loan that almost drowned your corrupt nation.

Nigeria’s debt servicing problems began around 1985, when the Nigerian government’s total external debt to all creditors amounted to $19 billion. Since then, the government has paid creditors more than $35 billion while borrowing less than $15 billion. Nevertheless, its outstanding external debt at the end of 2004 grew to almost $36 billion.

How is this possible? The short answer is compound interest; the long answer is that Nigeria’s Paris Club creditors opted— for political reasons—not to restructure their claims on Nigeria in 1992 when Nigeria’s commercial creditors agreed to do so. The ballooning of Nigeria’s debt relates directly and exclusively to this policy choice by creditors.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 5:16pm On May 24, 2020
rvp20182:
It's not my website. Maybe they are not in the business of listing slumscrappers. Cocoa house is basically an example of slum-scrapper that has totally decayed.
https://www.pulse.ng/news/local/cocoa-house-nigerias-1st-skyscraper-is-decaying-even-though-it-rakes-in-millions-of/ty8mjlv

Itt's about time you nuked it before it kills people. South Africa has brought down way better buildings than this.



You have no point my friend...they are soany newly completed buildings outside Lagos and Abuja yet we didn't even see any....your list is just as useless as your pranks...try again..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 5:21pm On May 24, 2020
Rvp get your arse ready...i.will post recent videos of ABUJA and your slum Mombasa..i want to establish your slum for what is it...no long cheap mouthy talk but action.....let me go surf YouTube..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:25pm On May 24, 2020
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TayserMahri:


Paris club is just IMF and WB in sheep clothing. Their hobby is to milk poor mismanaged countries like Nigeria without the hurdles of international rules. You required IMF rubber stumps along the way. As early as 1985 you took a massive loan that almost drowned your corrupt nation.

OK, u finally got ur dose of madness from rvp2018, guess its contagious.

We never took any massive loan in 1985, English is actually not Kenyan's forte...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 5:29pm On May 24, 2020
The minna dude is banning me when we can help educate you.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:30pm On May 24, 2020
Rvp2018 is gone..... Welcome rvp20182 and Mkenya2019. cool

Same old mumu. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 5:32pm On May 24, 2020
Paris club - is IMF, WB kinda of loans - IMF, WB, IDB are multilateral - you know who own each - if you owe WB - then you owe the US of A 20% - now Paris club is mostly bilateral loan to rich nations - and get called when you're struggling - and they decide who takes the hit. You can say these are bilateral donors - but IMF, WB, ADB - sit in Paris club - because they are also owed.

London club - is for private lending - if you like Tanzania borrow a commercial loan to build a railway and COVID-19 come in - and South African bank come for your pound of flesh - you call for London club. Those are not very forgiving. That is why Tanzania's stupidity is legendary. Nigeria got away with murder because well nobody like poverty and Nigerians will emigrate and spread poverty..but borrowing from commercial debt is a VERY SERIOUS business that can mess you Argentina style. Imagine Tanzani asking a South African bank to forgive 1B dollars smiley smiley

For public lending/creditor(Paris Club) - the loser is just a tax payer of rich nation who has to yet again subsidize Nigeria - but commercial loan(Londo n club) is someone lifetime savings or pension on the line.

theenchanter:
iOK, u finally got ur dose of madness from rvp2018, guess its contagious.

We never took any massive loan in 1985, English is actually not Kenyan's forte...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:32pm On May 24, 2020
theenchanter:
OK, u finally got ur dose of madness from rvp2018, guess its contagious.

We never took any massive loan in 1985, English is actually not Kenyan's forte... Or maybe u're trying to spin it to whatever suit u.

Just googling a little bit tells you Paris club is IMF in a mask cool I came up with that infor without seeing RVP's post,,,its expected of smart ppl anyway!

Nigeria must first obtain IMF approval of its economic reform program under a facility to be created by September; then it must hammer out the remaining details of the Paris Club deal.

By 1985 you had 19 B debt in dollars...one of the most heavily indebted countries at the time. Apparently you even printed money to pay off the debt

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 5:32pm On May 24, 2020
You keep banning me - when I am doing my civic and human duty to educate you.
theenchanter:
Rvp2018 is gone..... Welcome rvp20182 and Mkenya2019. cool

Same old mumu. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 5:34pm On May 24, 2020
Akuffo with his batakari...... wishing Ghanaian Muslim eid Mubarak

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:35pm On May 24, 2020
Mkenya2019:
You keep banning me - when I am doing my civic and human duty to educate you.
I'm not in charge of ur cyber destiny.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 5:36pm On May 24, 2020
What is it with extra clothing? Why not wear a blanket instead.
vaxx:
Akuffo with his batakari...... wishing Ghanaian Muslim eid Mubarak
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 5:40pm On May 24, 2020
vaxx:
Akuffo with his batakari...... wishing Ghanaian Muslim eid Mubarak

What do they celebrate in Eid,,, cool

Akuffo looks better, but... grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:43pm On May 24, 2020
Mkenya2019:
Paris club - is IMF, WB kinda of loans - IMF, WB, IDB are multilateral - you know who own each - if you owe WB - then you owe the US of A 20% - now Paris club is mostly bilateral loan to rich nations - and get called when you're struggling - and they decide who takes the hit. You can say these are bilateral donors - but IMF, WB, ADB - sit in Paris club - because they are also owed.

London club - is for private lending - if you like Tanzania borrow a commercial loan to build a railway and COVID-19 come in - and South African bank come for your flesh of pound - you call for London club. Those are not very forgiving. That is why Tanzania stupidity is legendary. Nigeria got away with murder because well nobody like poverty and nigerians will emigrate and spread poverty..but borrowing from commercial debt is VERY SERIOUS business that can mess you Argentina style.

For public funding - the loser is just a tax payer of rich nation who has to yet again subsidize Nigeria - but commercial loan is someone savings or pension on the line.

shut up.... Paris club don't give loans, idiot! It just comprise of officials from various lenders, and their objective is to "negotiate" terms of debt repayemt between lenders and debtors....or debt forgiveness, if it goes that way.

All ur remaining rants are as inconsequential as ur blocked brain.
TayserMahri:


Just googling a little bit tells you Paris club is IMF in a mask cool No one needs a dose. I came up with that infor without seeing RVP's post,,,its expected of smart ppl anyway!



By 1985 you had 19 B debt in dollars...one of the most heavily indebted countries at the time. Apparently you even printed money to pay off the debt
why are u disturbing ur own brain, my rafiki?

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