theenchanter:
lol, u and this ur unwarranted essay.

after all this shalaye FC Nigeria's GDP has still grown by 1. 87 percent in the first quarter. Some people will just develop high blood pressure over our matter

Mkenya2019:
Chadian army always beat Boko Haram blue - and Nigeria army now have motor-bikes - and long range guns - because they are afraid to die. That is COWARDLY.

As for KDF - we don't have any homegrown terror. Alshabab are in Somalia - and we pursuing them in their country. It like Nigeira army beating Boko Haram and pursuing them deep inside Chad...and you cannot escape with Okada

You overrate the chadian army... Why don't you check how many Chadian military and civilians Boko Haram have killed in the last 5 years before they finally grew the balls to launch an offensive against them this year? Nigeria,Chad, Cameroon and Niger republic run a joint operation against c
Boko Haram..Chad were simply protecting their own territory! ..you are making a big deal out of nothing, seriously..


Al Shabab isn't a Kenya terror group but they have attacked your capital city a lot of times.. that's pathetic,you know... For a terrorist group to cross your border undetected and attack your capital city that's several miles farther from their stronghold...

Boko Haram haven't attacked Abuja in 5 years and their activities have been largely restricted to the north east specifically Borno,Yobe and Adamawa states..

And finally,your KDF is no match for our military... It's a proven fact..only Egypt,South Africa and maybe Algeria and Morocco can match Nigeria's military strength in Africa!.. Even Sudan has a stronger military than Kenya!

Mkenya2019:
Yes, it very likely, they will get another debt forgiveness soon. The world doesn't like a poor Nigeria breeding Boko haram, immigration, international crime, and drug trafficking. To some extent they are smartly hopeless. Multilateral and bilateral loans are more AID than real debt.

What I really pity is Tanzania and Ghana who have taken lots of commercial debt. If they get into turbulence - and say South African bank is being asked to let go of a billion dollars. Ohoo men they will demand an Island!! or start seizing embassies, airplanes and anything written Tanzania and sell it.

Countries like Ghana, Zambia, and now Tanzania when they get rejected by multilateral or bilateral donors - they rush to commercial banks - and get loans - and start building nonsense - and then they fail to pay - and they go Argentina way.

Not quite in the case of Tanzania because the government has set up a paying plan for all its debts. Tanzania spends over $200 mil per month in repaying debts, and most of the cash comes from revenue collection from fruits of projects that they borrowed before. The Tanzanian Revenue Authority collects over $500 mil a month that is apart from the government royalties in minerals and profits from companies that government has shares on, so Tanzanian debts are highly manageable for now and the near future. And most of the big infrastructure projects that Tanzania has undergone will boost trade thus more revenues so Tanzania isn't building nonsense.

Mkenya2019:
Your total military budget is 1.6B dollars against Kenya 1.2B dollars. You have 350K force. We have 25K forces. Nigeria's army is a MILITIA - underpaid, under-equipped, indisciplined, and ill-trained. It's no better than say DRC army. You're wasting weapons on such a militia. That is why home-grown terror Boko Haram has sent 8M Nigerians to IDP camps.

"Our budget is this,our budget is that"...

Your budget has obviously not done enough to make your military among the top 10 in Africa!!


Nigeria has an industry that manufacturer weapons,tanks,warships,MRAPs,etc for it's military ..

What does Kenya have ?? A big budget.

You're unable to defeat the homegrown terror that has sent 8M nigerians (population of small country like Benin) into IDP camps where the United Nations are feeding them...and you want to lecture us about the military.

Alshabab can only launch terror activities in Kenya like they would in London or Paris or Newyork - 3 or 4 guys - sneaking in and causing little drama here and there...those are cowardly terror acts. They don't hold territory in kenya like they do in Somalia.

The strength of the army is the ability to enforce territorial integrity. Benin Army is, therefore, stronger than Nigerian army because they are able to maintain the territorial integrity of Benin. No Benin citizen is in some IDP camps.

As for Boko haram - why would they even bother with Abuja - when they control territory and are levy taxes - enforcing Sharia law - and are authority in huge territory in the North East of Nigeria.

Danielnino00:


You overrate the chadian army... Why don't you check how many Chadian military and civilians Boko Haram have killed in the last 5 years before they finally grew the balls to launch an offensive against them this year? Nigeria,Chad, Cameroon and Niger republic run a joint operation against c
Boko Haram..Chad were simply protecting their own territory! ..you are making a big deal out of nothing, seriously..


Al Shabab isn't a Kenya terror group but they have attacked your capital city a lot of times.. that's pathetic,you know... For a terrorist group to cross your border undetected and attack your capital city that's several miles farther from their stronghold...

Boko Haram haven't attacked Abuja in 5 years and their activities have been largely restricted to the north east specifically Borno,Yobe and Adamawa states..

And finally,your KDF is no match for our military... It's a proven fact..only Egypt,South Africa and maybe Algeria and Morocco can match Nigeria's military strength in Africa!.. Even Sudan has a stronger military than Kenya!

Austine1213:


Show infrastructure, all countries are gifted in nature

that will be extremely difficult
Did you know Nakuru town in kenya has more road overpasses/flyovers than the entire nation of Tanzania
in fact they just got their first flyover since independence last year

Why don't you manufacture Naira to pay them well. The image of Nigerian army is an undisciplined brute who is ill-trained and is so cowardly. The US has vetoed any army sale to Nigeria for those reasons.

You can manufacture weapons - but they will end up in Boko Haram hands if you don't have a well-paid, professional, disciplined, and well-trained army like Kenya.

Danielnino00:


"Our budget is this,our budget is that"...

Your budget has obviously not done enough to make your military among the top 10 in Africa!!


Nigeria has an industry that manufacturer weapons,tanks,warships,MRAPs,etc for it's military ..

What does Kenya have ?? A big budget.

But surely who borrow a commercial loan to build a railway of doubtful ROI. As far as I know Tanzania is still part of HIPC - HEAVILY INDEBTED - country - like Ghana.

Mzal3ndo:

Not quite in the case of Tanzania because the government has set up a paying plan for all its debts. Tanzania spends over $200 mil per month in repaying debts, and most of the cash comes from revenue collection from fruits of projects that they borrowed before. The Tanzanian Revenue Authority collects over $500 mil a month that is apart from the government royalties in minerals and profits from companies that government has shares on, so Tanzanian debts are highly manageable for now and the near future. And most of the big infrastructure projects that Tanzania has undergone will boost trade thus more revenues so Tanzania isn't building nonsense.

Every country will grow in Q1 - Jan-March. Now, wait for April-June.

chrisooblog:
after all this shalaye FC Nigeria's GDP has still grown by 1. 87 percent in the first quarter. Some people will just develop high blood pressure over our matter

Baliv254:



that will be extremely difficult
Did you know Nakuru town in kenya has more road overpasses/flyovers than the entire nation of Tanzania
in fact they just got their first flyover since independence in 2018

You build infrastructure depending on the need. Dar es salaam didn't need a flyover because of the amount of cars and road network did not require flyovers. With a population boom in Dar es salaam, new infrastructures were built to facilitate the population increase including new feeder roads, flyovers, BRT as well as expansion of preexisting roads. No one in their right minds builds a flyover for show. Look at Paris, no flyovers is it less developed?

Mkenya2019:
But surely who borrow a commercial loan to build a railway of doubtful ROI. As far as I know Tanzania is still part of HIPC - HEAVILY INDEBTED - country - like Ghana.

Tanzania debt is at $23b with is like 32% of the nations gdp and with a monthly tax collection of about $500b per month she spends $300b each month to service her debts, if she does not take any new loans, Tanzania would be loan free in about 6.5 years. Also, Tanzania took a commercial loan to partly fund the railway, most of the funds where already allocated by the government, that was done so that we would have be take some buggas deal just to build a railway which is very important to the nation.

Mkenya2019:
You're unable to defeat the homegrown terror that has sent 8M nigerians (population of small country like Benin) into IDP camps where the United Nations are feeding them...and you want to lecture us about the military.

Alshabab can only launch terror activities in Kenya like they would in London or Paris or Newyork - 3 or 4 guys - sneaking in and causing little drama here and there...those are cowardly terror acts. They don't hold territory in kenya like they do in Somalia.

The strength of the army is the ability to enforce territorial integrity. Benin Army is, therefore, stronger than Nigerian army because they are able to maintain the territorial integrity of Benin. No Benin citizen is in some IDP camps.

As for Boko haram - why would they even bother with Abuja - when they control territory and are levy taxes - enforcing Sharia law - and are authority in huge territory in the North East of Nigeria.

The United Nations estimates that there are 2.5 million IDPs in the north east or Nigeria...that 8 million figure you are pulling out is obviously from your anus..

The fact that a weak terror group is able to sneak into your capital city and launch attack speak volume of your ability to protect your territorial integrity...
Boko Haram has spread to Chad,but somehow you think Chad has a better military than us because they were able to launch one successful attack on them!..

Boko Haram currently don't control any territory within Nigeria.. between 2014-2015 they took control of about 11 LGAs in the north east but they have been driven out since. They are now targeting small villages and farmers...

Kenya meanwhile has been fighting Al Shabab for years,and still hasn't won...you are somehow like Chad that can't protect it's territory from foreign terrorists...

Mkenya2019:
But surely who borrow a commercial loan to build a railway of doubtful ROI. As far as I know Tanzania is still part of HIPC - HEAVILY INDEBTED - country - like Ghana.

Tanzania isn't part of the HIPC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavily_indebted_poor_countries

Mzal3ndo:

Tanzania debt is at $23b with is like 32% of the nations gdp and with a monthly tax collection of about $500b per month she spends $300b each month to service her debts, if she does not take any new loans, Tanzania would be loan free in about 6.5 years. Also, Tanzania took a commercial loan to partly fund the railway, most of the funds where already allocated by the government, that was done so that we would have be take some buggas deal just to build a railway which is very important to the nation.

$500b per month?

300b to service dept, isnt Tanzania gdp less than $70b?

Mkenya2019:
Why don't you manufacture Naira to pay them well. The image of Nigerian army is an undisciplined brute who is ill-trained and is so cowardly. The US has vetoed any army sale to Nigeria for those reasons.

You can manufacture weapons - but they will end up in Boko Haram hands if you don't have a well-paid, professional, disciplined, and well-trained army like Kenya.

Well trained army indeed...
Stop Al Shabab from gaining access to your capital city then we will take you serious..

Build a defence manufacturing industry like Nigeria,then we will take you serious..

Even in East Africa,your military isn't the best... Ethiopia and Uganda have a better military..you are just noise makers ...

Mzal3ndo:

Tanzania isn't part of the HIPC.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heavily_indebted_poor_countries

I see Tanzania in dark shade of green, on The HIPC map

Mkenya2019:
Paris club - is IMF, WB kinda of loans - IMF, WB, IDB are multilateral - you know who own each - if you owe WB - then you owe the US of A 20% - now Paris club is mostly bilateral loan to rich nations - and get called when you're struggling - and they decide who takes the hit. You can say these are bilateral donors - but IMF, WB, ADB - sit in Paris club - because they are also owed.

London club - is for private lending - if you like Tanzania borrow a commercial loan to build a railway and COVID-19 come in - and South African bank come for your pound of flesh - you call for London club. Those are not very forgiving. That is why Tanzania's stupidity is legendary. Nigeria got away with murder because well nobody like poverty and Nigerians will emigrate and spread poverty..but borrowing from commercial debt is a VERY SERIOUS business that can mess you Argentina style. Imagine Tanzani asking a South African bank to forgive 1B dollars

For public lending/creditor(Paris Club) - the loser is just a tax payer of rich nation who has to yet again subsidize Nigeria - but commercial loan(Londo n club) is someone lifetime savings or pension on the line.

Is this coming from a country that just took $1b to boost its budget?? Tanzania's economy is running well and we didn't need to take a loan to keep our economy running. Tanzania takes loans for development projects knowing fully well that she can service them from her tax collections alone.

A military job is not to stop cowardly terror activities. That is an internal security job. That is for our police force. But if Alshabaab was to make an inch of Kenya their home - KDF will go for them.

Btw Boko Haram - is nothing compared to Alshabaab.

Danielnino00:


Well trained army indeed...
Stop Al Shabab from gaining access to your capital city then we will take you serious..

Build a defence manufacturing industry like Nigeria,then we will take you serious..

Even in East Africa,your military isn't the best... Ethiopia and Uganda have a better military..you are just noise makers ...

Interesting. I haven't checked your figures lately. I know your revenue to debt was high -45% last I checked.

Mzal3ndo:

Tanzania debt is at $23b with is like 32% of the nations gdp and with a monthly tax collection of about $500b per month she spends $300b each month to service her debts, if she does not take any new loans, Tanzania would be loan free in about 6.5 years. Also, Tanzania took a commercial loan to partly fund the railway, most of the funds where already allocated by the government, that was done so that we would have be take some buggas deal just to build a railway which is very important to the nation.

Kenya

Austine1213:


What makes you think youyou can compete with Namibia?

what makes me? Compete with namibia? U're crazy. Both Nigeria and Tanzania are far above Namibia's league.....

Mkenya2019:
You're running on empty with your attempt to derail the fact that no other Africa country has received as MUCH AID as Nigeria - and yet is very poor - and let not talk oil - is an epic fail as always.

oh, its no longer debt forgiveness.... It's now aid.

U're insane.

theenchanter:
what makes me? Compete with namibia? U're crazy. Both Nigeria and Tanzania are far above Namibia's league.....

Tanzania is very very poor, So Tanzanians thinks big GDP means you better?

Namibia better than Tanzania :fact

Rvp I will commence with a teaser...
Take this as an appetizer...I will be back for the main course....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJQsal6geJc

Austine1213:


Tanzania is very very poor, So Tanzanians thinks big GDP means you better?

Namibia better than Tanzania :fact

about 40% of saffers live in poverty and Ghanaians live a better life than saffers.

Ghana is better than SA... Fact!

Mkenya2019:
A military job is not to stop cowardly terror activities. That is an internal security job. That is for our police force. But if Alshabaab was to make an inch of Kenya their home - KDF will go for them.

Btw Boko Haram - is nothing compared to Alshabaab.

LMAO... Al Shabab attacked Nairobi and u had to call the British for help...
Al Shabab have attacked the north of Kenya before ..what has the KDF done ?
Lol...

Kenya military,I repeat is nowhere near Nigeria's...not even the best in East Africa..

Boko Haram vs Al Shabab comparison should be left for terrorist sympathisers ..

You're insane one because we began with Daniel on Aid. His theory was East Africa would be nothing without AID. And I told him Nigeria had received so much AID including 18B dollars forgiven by donors or as you call them creditors.

theenchanter:
oh, its no longer debt forgiveness.... It's now aid.

U're insane.

theenchanter:
about 40% of saffers live in poverty and Ghanaians live a better life than saffers.

Ghana is better than SA... Fact!

Lol you know that's not true,,,isee what you trying to do youyou tried with nigeria now you running to Ghana


Nah chana that won't work

Tanzania is very poor its fact

theenchanter:
about 40% of saffers live in poverty and Ghanaians live a better life than saffers.

Ghana is better than SA... Fact!

Poverty is not measured the same in countries

Other uses $1.5 others $2, $3, $5, $5.5

Tanzania uses $1

Watch Nairobi first - Traveller new camera is amazing, None of Nigeria slumpolis including Abuja come close.

This was taken today.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V20NJKN-f6c

samorobo:
Rvp I will commence with a teaser...
Take this as an appetizer...I will be back for the main course....



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJQsal6geJc

theenchanter:
oh, its no longer debt forgiveness.... It's now aid.

U're insane.

They are trying to mix debt relief with aid reception to hide the fact that they are among the most aid dependent country in Africa!

Nigeria received aids too but it's nothing compared to Kenya...

Just30 has shown us the many food aid they have gotten from foreign donors during this covid-19 pandemic...

Mkenya2019:
You're insane one because we began with Daniel on Aid. His theory was East Africa would be nothing without AID. And I told him Nigeria had received so much AID including 18B dollars forgiven by donors or as you call them creditors.

When did getting a debt relief become the same thing as getting foreign aid ??

Foreign aid isn't limited to money alone..what about food, medicine,houses,clothing?

Literally every major aid donor agency are operating in East Africa... I mean,imagine how many million of people would have died from famine caused by drought in East Africa?

A live aid concert was even held some years back with the sole aim of raising money for Ethiopia starving population...

East Africa is an aid dependent region! You can't prove otherwise ..