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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 5:08pm On May 25, 2020
LordReed:


So this creator waits until humans are dead to repair them?
Hahahahahahahah.

Oga oh! You go kill person with Question o, lol.

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 5:09pm On May 25, 2020
WINDSOW:
Funny guy!
Don't you agree?
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Lukuluku69(m): 5:27pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:
According to the bible, Jesus Christ of Nazareth is a descendant of David with Joseph as Jesus' connection to David.
But, Joseph didn't impregnate Mary.



It was a Lie told to hoodwink the Jews in believing that the Nazarene was the Deliverer that they were waiting for.

There is the Prophecy that Joseph being a fruitful bough and him being an Ensign for all the Nations of the world. It is him that the whole world will gather around.

Please look for the Prophecy. It is where/when Jacob was blessing his sons.

That Nation strength is in Joseph and not Judah as wrongly believed.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by LordReed(m): 6:20pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:

Hahahahahahahah.

Oga oh! You go kill person with Question o, lol.

LMAO!
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by eplanning: 6:53pm On May 25, 2020
WINDSOW:
Blessed are those who didn't c but yet believed.

Not good enough. Everything should line up with scripture.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 6:56pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:

Using exactly this your logic, it also means that the person you are calling thy Creator and Mighty One was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One...till infinity!

Your logic is flawed .

Don't be silly! We are talking about the things Seen and Experienced in and around this world and their boundaries and limitations.
[b]
My reasoning is confined to the things that are Clearly Seen in this world and it is about the things of this world that we are contending with Only, not the things beyond it.


So now attempting to carry me into space and universe will not work, for no one on earth CERTAINLY knows the boundaries and limits and laws which operate in the universe. And this is not the purpose of our contention, so don't change the argument by bringing another issue which was not in issue here.

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by whitestar01(m): 7:15pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:
According to the bible, Jesus Christ of Nazareth is a descendant of David with Joseph as Jesus' connection to David.
But, Joseph didn't impregnate Mary.


Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the “son of David.” But the question arises, how could Jesus be the son of David if David lived approximately 1,000 years before Jesus? The answer is that Christ (the Messiah) was the fulfillment of the prophecy of the seed of David (2 Samuel 7:12–16). Jesus is the promised Messiah, which means He had to be of the lineage of David. Matthew 1 gives the genealogical proof that Jesus, in His humanity, was a direct descendant of Abraham and David through Joseph, Jesus’ legal father. The genealogy in Luke 3 traces Jesus’ lineage through His mother, Mary. Jesus is a descendant of David by adoption through Joseph and by blood through Mary. “As to his earthly life [Christ Jesus] was a descendant of David” (Romans 1:3).

Primarily, the title “Son of David” is more than a statement of physical genealogy. It is a Messianic title. When people referred to Jesus as the Son of David, they meant that He was the long-awaited Deliverer, the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.

Jesus was addressed as “Lord, thou son of David” several times by people who, by faith, were seeking mercy or healing. The woman whose daughter was being tormented by a demon (Matthew 15:22) and the two blind men by the wayside (Matthew 20:30) all cried out to the Son of David for help. The titles of honor they gave Him declared their faith in Him. Calling Him “Lord” expressed their sense of His deity, dominion, and power, and calling Him “Son of David,” expressed their faith that He was the Messiah.

The Pharisees understood exactly what the people meant when they called Jesus “Son of David.” But, unlike those who cried out in faith, the Pharisees were so blinded by their own pride that they couldn’t see what the blind beggars could see—that here was the Messiah they had supposedly been waiting for all their lives. They hated Jesus because He wouldn’t give them the honor they thought they deserved, so when they heard the people hailing Jesus as the Savior, they became enraged (Matthew 21:15) and plotted to destroy Him (Luke 19:47).

Jesus further confounded the scribes and Pharisees by asking them to explain the meaning of this very title: how could it be that the Messiah is the son of David when David himself refers to Him as “my Lord” (Mark 12:35–37; cf. Psalm 110:1)? The teachers of the Law couldn’t answer the question. Jesus thereby exposed the Jewish leaders’ ineptitude as teachers and their ignorance of what the Old Testament taught as to the true nature of the Messiah, further alienating them from Him.

Jesus’ point in asking the question of Mark 12:35 was that the Messiah is more than the physical son of David. If He is David’s Lord, He must be greater than David. As Jesus says in Revelation 22:16, “I am the Root and the Offspring of David.” That is, He is both the Creator of David and the Descendant of David. Only the Son of God made flesh could say that.

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 7:17pm On May 25, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Don't be silly! We are talking about the things Seen and Experienced in and around this world and their boundaries and limitations.

My reasoning is confined to the things that are Clearly Seen in this world and it is about the things of this world that we are contending with Only, not the things beyond it.


So now attempting to carry me into space and universe will not work, for no one on earth CERTAINLY knows the boundaries and limits and laws which operate in the universe. And this is not the purpose of our contention, so don't change the argument by bringing another issue which was not in issue here.
Lol
See who is advising to keep the discussion on topic. Are you suffering from amnesia?
Same person who is in denial and talking about death, and what happens after death.

Dtruthspeaker:


True, but what shall you gain in return for knowing the answer to this question? Knowing the answer would still not prevent your death.

Whether the Bible is written or not, the first Clear Truth is that you did not create or make yourself. You did not will yourself into existence.

By the Laws of Nature, Someone or something which exists Must create you. Cars, was made by man not by itself, all men came to meet the land (earth), seas, animals and plants already here.

No man on earth ever made them. therefore seeing all these, all men must know that Some Mighty One made them and therefore we Must be Answerable to Him, whether we have done he created us for like our cars, laptops and phones or we did contrary.

Do we not destroy phones, laptops and cars that did not work well, therefore it is reasonable to expect that thy Creator is capable of doing the same to you if you do not His Will. This is the decision of Life and Death.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 7:33pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:


By the way, i don't hope to gain anything but rather to show people like you that the Bible is all lies upon lies. If you still continue to believe the lie even when it is staring you in the face, then something is definitely wrong with you as a person. This is because, it is no longer religious beliefs, but just simple denial.

I'm sure you first went and checked to see if i was lying, and then when you found out it is the truth, you started asking me what i hope to gain. Can you imagine! You dey fear the truth ni?

You see yourself Anti-Christ! You posed a seemingly reasonable question to which we have reasonably answered.

Now you have shown that it was malicious with intent to remove shallow Christians from the way of Life unto Death.

How are you different from Satan who deceived Eve that she shall not die? Why did he not let live her life?

Just as you have you decided in the way in which you want to go, without duress, you have no right to force Christians to follow you. Stay in your place.

I am well aware and never denied that it is reported in the Bible that Mary was not impregnated by Joseph and I perceived it was to a wicked purpose you asked this question and all the most dirty and vile imaginations flowing from what is seen in nature.

Your brothers have called her every wicked name under the earth, in an attempt to destroy the birth of the Lord on earth as men are, nothing new here and it is rather a shame that you did not clearly call her what you had in your soul, after all it is your own soul, voice and mouth.

So seeing that you are a devil, there is no gain in answering you for it is seen and known that Darkness dies because light has come, Lies dies because Truth has come, Satan dies because God has come.

I am not God only flesh, blood and spirit. Wait for the Highest when He shall come we would all be witnesses one to another who shall be put to shame and die and who shall prevail and live.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 7:40pm On May 25, 2020
Lukuluku69:


It was a Lie told to hoodwink the Jews in believing that the Nazarene was the Deliverer that they were waiting for.

There is the Prophecy that Joseph being a fruitful bough and him being an Ensign for all the Nations of the world. It is him that the whole world will gather around.

Please look for the Prophecy. It is where/when Jacob was blessing his sons.

That Nation strength is in Joseph and not Judah as wrongly believed.
Please find the prophecy and bring here... grin
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 7:48pm On May 25, 2020
LordReed:


So this creator waits until humans are dead to repair them?

Thank God you know that I have answered you and now you by Yourself has Moved and entered into foolishness which I would not follow. You go ahead!
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 7:53pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:

Lol
See who is advising to keep the discussion on topic. Are you suffering from amnesia?
Same person who is in denial and talking about death, and what happens after death.



And the insults fly in!
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 8:12pm On May 25, 2020
whitestar01:
Seventeen verses in the New Testament describe Jesus as the “son of David.” But the question arises, how could Jesus be the son of David if David lived approximately 1,000 years before Jesus? The answer is that Christ (the Messiah) was the fulfillment of the prophecy of the seed of David (2 Samuel 7:12–16). Jesus is the promised Messiah, which means He had to be of the lineage of David. Matthew 1 gives the genealogical proof that Jesus, in His humanity, was a direct descendant of Abraham and David through Joseph, Jesus’ legal father. The genealogy in Luke 3 traces Jesus’ lineage through His mother, Mary. Jesus is a descendant of David by adoption through Joseph and by blood through Mary. “As to his earthly life [Christ Jesus] was a descendant of David” (Romans 1:3).

Primarily, the title “Son of David” is more than a statement of physical genealogy. It is a Messianic title. When people referred to Jesus as the Son of David, they meant that He was the long-awaited Deliverer, the fulfillment of the Old Testament prophecies.

Jesus was addressed as “Lord, thou son of David” several times by people who, by faith, were seeking mercy or healing. The woman whose daughter was being tormented by a demon (Matthew 15:22) and the two blind men by the wayside (Matthew 20:30) all cried out to the Son of David for help. The titles of honor they gave Him declared their faith in Him. Calling Him “Lord” expressed their sense of His deity, dominion, and power, and calling Him “Son of David,” expressed their faith that He was the Messiah.

The Pharisees understood exactly what the people meant when they called Jesus “Son of David.” But, unlike those who cried out in faith, the Pharisees were so blinded by their own pride that they couldn’t see what the blind beggars could see—that here was the Messiah they had supposedly been waiting for all their lives. They hated Jesus because He wouldn’t give them the honor they thought they deserved, so when they heard the people hailing Jesus as the Savior, they became enraged (Matthew 21:15) and plotted to destroy Him (Luke 19:47).

Jesus further confounded the scribes and Pharisees by asking them to explain the meaning of this very title: how could it be that the Messiah is the son of David when David himself refers to Him as “my Lord” (Mark 12:35–37; cf. Psalm 110:1)? The teachers of the Law couldn’t answer the question. Jesus thereby exposed the Jewish leaders’ ineptitude as teachers and their ignorance of what the Old Testament taught as to the true nature of the Messiah, further alienating them from Him.

Jesus’ point in asking the question of Mark 12:35 was that the Messiah is more than the physical son of David. If He is David’s Lord, He must be greater than David. As Jesus says in Revelation 22:16, “I am the Root and the Offspring of David.” That is, He is both the Creator of David and the Descendant of David. Only the Son of God made flesh could say that.





Oga, nowhere in the bible was it written that Jesus traced his lineage from Mary.
Both Mathew and Luke said he is the son of Joseph.

Moreover, Mathew specifically mentioned the name of women in the genealogy, and Mary was not one of them. Get your facts right.

The Gospel of Luke was written years after Matthew was written, so it's just a copy and paste work for a different audience.
You guys should really start reading the Bible.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 8:21pm On May 25, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


You see yourself Anti-Christ! You posed a seemingly reasonable question to which we have reasonably answered.

Now you have shown that it was malicious with intent to remove shallow Christians from the way of Life unto Death.

How are you different from Satan who deceived Eve that she shall not die? Why did he not let live her life?

Just as you have you decided in the way in which you want to go, without duress, you have no right to force Christians to follow you. Stay in your place.

I am well aware and never denied that it is reported in the Bible that Mary was not impregnated by Joseph and I perceived it was to a wicked purpose you asked this question and all the most dirty and vile imaginations flowing from what is seen in nature.

Your brothers have called her every wicked name under the earth, in an attempt to destroy the birth of the Lord on earth as men are, nothing new here and it is rather a shame that you did not clearly call her what you had in your soul, after all it is your own soul, voice and mouth.

So seeing that you are a devil, there is no gain in answering you for it is seen and known that Darkness dies because light has come, Lies dies because Truth has come, Satan dies because God has come.

I am not God only flesh, blood and spirit. Wait for the Highest when He shall come we would all be witnesses one to another who shall be put to shame and die and who shall prevail and live.
Hahahahahahahahaha.
I will reply you with your own post below...Infact, your post below is my reply to your junk above!!!

Dtruthspeaker:


Don't be silly! We are talking about the things Seen and Experienced in and around this world and their boundaries and limitations.

My reasoning is confined to the things that are Clearly Seen in this world and it is about the things of this world that we are contending with Only, not the things beyond it.


So now attempting to carry me into space and universe will not work, for no one on earth CERTAINLY knows the boundaries and limits and laws which operate in the universe. And this is not the purpose of our contention, so don't change the argument by bringing another issue which was not in issue here.
Slave...

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by LordReed(m): 8:21pm On May 25, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


Thank God you know that I have answered you and now you by Yourself has Moved and entered into foolishness which I would not follow. You go ahead!


Yeah dunderhead confront your foolishness.

Dtruthspeaker:

There isn't anyone who shall repair man when he is dead other than man's Creator Himself!
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 9:06pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:

Hahahahahahahahaha.
I will reply you with your own post below...Infact, your post below is my reply to your junk above!!!


Slave...

Oh, fool! There is nothing here to respond to for you have not said anything reasonable or tangible worthy of a reasonable response!

I have answered you and I stand by my answers, now you foolishly left your foolish answes to come to stand by on my answers, Fool, they can never be yours, they are Always Mine.

Go and sit down in your own chair, Ole, Theif,Onyeoshi! grin grin grin before Hanty comes and sees you standing!
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 9:15pm On May 25, 2020
LordReed:


Yeah dunderhead confront your foolishness.


grin you couldn't say anything reasonable? Is it not best to cease from speaking rather than to speak vanities?

Oh! You surely Do have the Right to Speak Foolish Vanities.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by LordReed(m): 9:16pm On May 25, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


grin you couldn't say anything reasonable? Is it not best to cease from speaking rather than to speak vanities?

Oh! You surely Do have the Right to Speak Foolish Vanities.

It has been well established that the foolishness emanates entirely from you.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by whitestar01(m): 9:19pm On May 25, 2020
IamMichael:

Oga, nowhere in the bible was it written that Jesus traced his lineage from Mary.
Both Mathew and Luke said he is the son of Joseph.

Moreover, Mathew specifically mentioned the name of women in the genealogy, and Mary was not one of them. Get your facts right.

The Gospel of Luke was written years after Matthew was written, so it's just a copy and paste work for a different audience.
You guys should really start reading the Bible.

I just don't understand your point and your problem. You mentioned someone in the previous page which indicates that you want to be convinced that Christianity is fairytale, right?
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 9:21pm On May 25, 2020
LordReed:


It has been well established that the foolishness emanates entirely from you.

grin grin grin
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 9:58pm On May 25, 2020
whitestar01:
I just don't understand your point and your problem. You mentioned someone in the previous page which indicates that you want to be convinced that Christianity is fairytale, right?
You won't understand my point because your brain lacks the capacity at the moment to understand simple sarcasm even when it is staring you in the face.


Read... and understand, then ask a question someone can understand because i don't know what you are even talking about! cheesy grin
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Zoroaster: 3:09am On May 26, 2020
IamMichael:

Using exactly this your logic, it also means that the person you are calling thy Creator and Mighty One was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One...till infinity!

Your logic is flawed obviously ab initio!


By the way, i don't hope to gain anything but rather to show people like you that the Bible is all lies upon lies. If you still continue to believe the lie even when it is staring you in the face, then something is definitely wrong with you as a person. This is because, it is no longer religious beliefs, but just simple denial.

I'm sure you first went and checked to see if i was lying, and then when you found out it is the truth, you started asking me what i hope to gain. Can you imagine! You dey fear the truth ni?
It's quite clear grin
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by amrichy(m): 5:18am On May 26, 2020
Dtruthspeaker:


True, but what shall you gain in return for knowing the answer to this question? Knowing the answer would still not prevent your death.

Whether the Bible is written or not, the first Clear Truth is that you did not create or make yourself. You did not will yourself into existence.

By the Laws of Nature, Someone or something which exists Must create you. Cars, was made by man not by itself, all men came to meet the land (earth), seas, animals and plants already here.

No man on earth ever made them. therefore seeing all these, all men must know that Some Mighty One made them and therefore we Must be Answerable to Him, whether we have done he created us for like our cars, laptops and phones or we did contrary.

Do we not destroy phones, laptops and cars that did not work well, therefore it is reasonable to expect that thy Creator is capable of doing the same to you if you do not His Will. This is the decision of Life and Death.

If what you create does not do what you want, is it not you the creator that should be blamed for this?
Also, whether you do the "will" of your "creator" or not, you will still die.

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 6:58am On May 26, 2020
amrichy:


If what you create does not do what you want, is it not you the creator that should be blamed for this?
Also, whether you do the "will" of your "creator" or not, you will still die.

Now you are acting as though you are reasonable, posing reasonable questions. I have answered it at the first.

Now you are all happy to conveniently remove from your minds by forgetting that you-creation First Did His Will sweetly and joyfully until Satan ate you up. And now you don't Only Just do Wickednesses Every where, you even imagine that you can even Defeat your Creator, and you are all here trying to get other Eves' & Adams' to do the same.

My position is simply this, I call you all Wicked Foolish People, until the day that Toyota Camry Beats you up and rapes your wife, Your Freezer in Your House jumps on your bed and crushes you to Death, the day your HD -Tv strangles your children you left at home.

Until that day, you are the most Foolish People on earth! You have watched too much Film Tricks that you all you see is Film Tricks. Your eyes are bad Change them, if you want!

Let those who have an eye to see, let them see!

Final word!
Woe to him who striveth and contendeth with his Maker! It is better for Camry to fight Honda Accord, laptop against HD-Tv, man with man (as you have all done).

But it is Mighty Foolishness where it is man vs the Creator of man, for the clay pot has NEVER FOUGHT the Potter (and Won) nor has IPhone Ever Ever Imagined that it can Defeat, Steve Jobs.

It is Great and the Most Idiotic Foolishness Ever!
Isaiah 45:9 and 10.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Gaggii: 7:15am On May 26, 2020
FanRong:


To prove that Jesus is the son of Almighty God, the most high, He defiled so many scientific proves. Example.

01. How He was conceived.
02.Turning water into wine.
03. Walking on water
04. Feeding the 5000
05. Healing the sick
06. Raising the dead.
07. Sweating blood
08. Resurrection from the dead
09. Ascending into Heavens
10. And many more I cant remember or not recorded in the Bible.

So, you can only understand His existence with the help (Inspiration) of the Holy Spirit.
Ask for that First.
Thank you.

But has not been able to cure corona

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Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Brunicekid(m): 7:35am On May 26, 2020
IamMichael:

By law, and not by blood. Moreover, Mary was already pregnant before marrying Joseph.
TRUE
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Brunicekid(m): 7:38am On May 26, 2020
IamMichael:

Using exactly this your logic, it also means that the person you are calling thy Creator and Mighty One was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One, who was also created by another Creator and Mighty One...till infinity!

[b]Your logic is flawed obviously ab initio![/b]The Bible is the true, undiluted Word of God.


By the way, i don't hope to gain anything but rather to show people like you that the Bible is all lies upon lies. If you still continue to believe the lie even when it is staring you in the face, then something is definitely wrong with you as a person. This is because, it is no longer religious beliefs, but just simple denial.

I'm sure you first went and checked to see if i was lying, and then when you found out it is the truth, you started asking me what i hope to gain. Can you imagine! You dey fear the truth ni?
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 8:31am On May 26, 2020
Gaggii:


But has not been able to cure corona
As in eeh. I tire o... That dude is mentally disturbed.
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 8:32am On May 26, 2020
Zoroaster:
It's quite clear grin
grin cheesy
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by whitestar01(m): 9:14am On May 26, 2020
IamMichael:

You won't understand my point because your brain lacks the capacity at the moment to understand simple sarcasm even when it is staring you in the face.


Read... and understand, then ask a question someone can understand because i don't know what you are even talking about! cheesy grin
Continue confusing your mind...because I doubt if there's any unquestionable believe ; if there is any, prove it
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by IamMichael(m): 11:12am On May 26, 2020
whitestar01:
Continue confusing your mind...because I doubt if there's any unquestionable believe ; if there is any, prove it
- 1+1=?
- Death
Re: This Question About Jesus Has Been Bothering Me by Dtruthspeaker: 12:08pm On May 26, 2020
Gaggii:


But has not been able to cure corona

Idiot! He ain't curing Nothing. More Deadly Things are Coming For Y'ALL! We've have Only just started.

We are Still in the Beginning of Sorrows, Mathew 24: 7-8. Can't wait to hear your shouts when Great Trouble-lations come, i mean GREAT TRIBULATIONS Come.

You feared for Egypt's Judgements, then Get Ready for the Big Oneses cheesy SUCH AS NEVER SEEN BEFORE, SUCH AS SHALL NEVER BE SEEN AGAIN! Mathew 24:21. smiley

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