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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:01pm On May 26, 2020 |
obaaderemi: He gets the from someone called @ovieali on Twitter 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:04pm On May 26, 2020 |
theenchanter:They are actually learning but they won't own up to their ignorance in front of Nigerians. I am sure when the likes of rvp and kikuyu1 are having beer parlour arguments or calling in on political radio shows, they make use of the points learnt from Nigerians and Ghanaians on nairaland. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:04pm On May 26, 2020 |
Abohboy:I see. It's still very good. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:05pm On May 26, 2020 |
Sorry care tell me at least one single positive lesson one can learn from Nigeria? Ghana is better. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:08pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018:You can learn how to build an indigenous African economy from Nigerians, not one where the richest people are Indians.. Your GDP is too small at $60bn. ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:15pm On May 26, 2020 |
You're illiterate. Understand the difference btw domestic and external debt. And understand why external debt is very risky Before South Africa default like Nigeria - and cause a lot more economic havoc - they will print the Rand and pay off the debt. At least they CAN. This is called Quantitative Easing (QE) - and few years ago most countries engaged in that. Basically CBN would simply buy of your gov debts by printing money & pay off the creditors. At least it's an option - compared to external debt that has to be paid in foreign currencies like USD - and you're basically sc.rewed for quite a long time if you default US and EU printed lots of money during the last crisis - and they didn't die. Those who died from debt crisis are the Greeks who gave away their ability to intervene by choosing the Euro...something they cannot just print. This is role of Central Bank...but it doesn't mean you print money like Idi Amin or Zimbabwe or Ghana or Zambia or Nigeria. Heck if you cannot print money - why have a Central bank and Naira -- just use the USD like your hopeless neighbor Ghana. As for Nigeria's debt crisis. Let us not argue over basic facts. Your fake GDP may mask the GDP to debt ratio...but it doesn't the important revenue to debt ratio. obaaderemi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:17pm On May 26, 2020 |
theenchanter:Is that a processed milk? And if packaged, in which form? |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:20pm On May 26, 2020 |
How does the color or ethnicity of Dangote matter? We have small gdp - let even say it 10B dollars - but Kenya has a bigger budget than Nigeria. That is money in gov coffers. If we go for bank assets - I can bet Kenya is probably now at 50B dollars - and Nigeria probably less than 100B dollars. Name any indicator - and your paper-weight economy is just not there. obaaderemi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:20pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018: They are many but you asked if one...let your economy produce individuals or even if it is govt that would build a certain iinfastructure that makes existing in world look like a child play...that way you can be a leader in that . Dangote fertilizer plant...largest in the world Dangote Refinery....Largest single train Refinery on planet earth.. Don't even bother, there is nothing to learn from Kenya other than ballooning slum and re-creating slumpolis... 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:23pm On May 26, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:26pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018: This was when our budget was supposedly at it lowest in the middle of our deepest 2016 recession yet we lead in infastructural construction, with SA trailing behind... Most of the infastructures you see us posting started back then.. 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:27pm On May 26, 2020 |
If we wanted to have Dangote we would have them. All we need is for Federal gov in Abuja to ban imports of key items - sugar, cement, rice -except for a few selected traders - and to also make it impossible for any trader to buy serious forex. We would require them to write a long love letter to explain why they need to import sugar - and why they need to buy dollars. And then we would have a selected few Northern Nigeria oligarch friend of ours - given the import licenses and dollars - as we reject other applications After he has had monopoly importing for like 5yrs - he would have enough capital to build factories. After he is done with building factories - we would turn around and now completely ban imports - because look Nigeria(Dangote) is now self-sufficient. We use to do that until 1992 when we LIBERALIZED our economy. It now nearly impossible to have a Dangote - because everyone is free to import or export or to buy as much forex as they want - and everyone is getting richer - instead of 30 billionaires - and 100M extremely poor Nigerians You have the richest man in Africa and largest number of poor people in the WORLD. That irony is lost on you. In the modern world - people are becoming billionaires by creating NEW products - not selling Sugar or Cement LIKE DANGOTE. When Dangote meet Bill Gates or Jeff Bezo - how many patents would Dangote have filled _ ZERO every year. It only in Nigeria where a cement or sugar businessman is making billions. Only in Zoo - do you have 30 list of protected items - that a few have been given the monopoly to supply to 200m nigerias. Instead of having 10,000 Nigerians importing sugar - You have Dangote doing that. Instead of 10,000 Nigerians importing cement - you had Dangote and few of Northerners doing that. samorobo: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:30pm On May 26, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:36pm On May 26, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:37pm On May 26, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:39pm On May 26, 2020 |
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:47pm On May 26, 2020 |
Kazikazi:yeah,processed.... In tetrapak. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:52pm On May 26, 2020 |
But 2 dollars for Nigeria is very expensive. 1 liter in Kenya is 1 dollar. theenchanter: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:57pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018: Sorry I couldn't finalize my read in your wall of emotional cries... You can never produce Dangote like personalities..yeah that's why the richest in Kenya which apparently is an Indian will be about the 20th richest man if he were to be in Nigeria..that says alot about your tiny economy and automatically put you in your league which is among your fellow eastern Africa backwaters... There are many Dangote's in Nigeria doing great things... Another richest man "Abudul Samad rabiu" is building Africa's largest sugar refinery in port Harcourt singlehandedly and this man should be like the tenth richest in our modern society...now what has Kenya individual achieved or even the govt..can't your govt take us on such feat if your underachievers population is too poor to do such? Or is it becos your economy is still tender and poor to produce such individuals or govt fund to go on such grandiose project?...tell me which is it? You want to see poverty then look no further. 45m Kenyans are very poor making about 94% of your pop...we are above your zoo country on all front..arguing from now till tomorrow won't change that singular fact which is a reality.. 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:57pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018:u produce it on a large scale over there, we don't. Urs should be cheaper. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:02pm On May 26, 2020 |
theenchanter:Oh I see. In TZ,once the they use tetrapak stuff,the prices are too high.Most folks buy in sachets or just raw milk 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:03pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018:But u use cheap packaging! 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 8:06pm On May 26, 2020 |
Yet another billionaire selling Sugar!! Sugar! Cement! Those are the most useless product out there in the world market. There is only one way to make tonnes of money in this world - create a monopoly and set the prices - make a super-profit. In the modern world - with an open liberalized economy - it impossible to make money from sugar or cement - because everyone can buy it cheaply from high seas and sell it cheaply - competition will take all the margins. So the only way you become a billionaire in says the US is to create a new unique product - possibly have it patented - and make money as a monopoly - before everyone start making it and drives the margins down. But it's only in closed 3rd world economy like Nigeria that people make money from selling cement and sugar by making sure they have a monopoly - and forcing everyone to pay a lot for shitty products - and sending MILLIONS TO POVERTY. samorobo: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:09pm On May 26, 2020 |
Kazikazi: This is how we package our milk...and they are all sold for less than a dollar 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:11pm On May 26, 2020 |
Kazikazi:oh, OK. |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 8:18pm On May 26, 2020 |
samorobo:I'm actually talking about 1 litre milks. Something like this... 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:19pm On May 26, 2020 |
samorobo:Yah,your packs look cheap.I remember those brookside stuff,they had terrible packages. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 8:23pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018: I am not about to join you in your daily emotional cries driven by absolute bitterness and envy..that useless product(sugar and cement) is what made Dangote what he is today...and NO there is no sugar monopoly in Nigeria....I am right here waiting for that product Kenya has produced and patented..don't even mention safaricom.. Now the bottom line is this ..why has your supposedly$100bn economy (which according is close to ours ) not produce quarter the size of our billionaires which are soaring in various sectors from telecommunications to industry,you name it? WHY!WHY!! WHY!!!.. YOU WANT TO SEE POVERTY THEN DELVE A LITTLE INTO YOUR POVERTY EMPIRE WITH 45M POOR IDIOTS MAKING 94% OF YOYR POPS.. 4 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rainmon(f): 8:29pm On May 26, 2020 |
Indonesia's largest cities, the most relevant country that every african countries should aspire to Pic. 1. Jakarta (pop. 9 million) Pic. 2. Surabaya (pop. 2.6 million) Pic. 3. Bandung (pop. 2.3 million) Pic. 4. Medan (pop. 2.1 million) 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rainmon(f): 8:32pm On May 26, 2020 |
Cont... 5. Bekasi (pop. 2 million) 6. Tangerang (pop. 1.5 million) 7. Semarang (pop. 1.4 million) 8. Makassar (pop. 1.3 million) 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 8:34pm On May 26, 2020 |
rainmon:Jakarta and Surabaya are OK,the rest are behind many African cities. I think south Korea is the one we should copy 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:46pm On May 26, 2020 |
rvp2018:Dumbo, the two kinds of debts are very risky. Any kind of debt is risky. Even an illiterate drunkard like you should be familiar with the saying: he who goes a borrowing goes a sorrowing. rvp2018:SOuth Africa's external debt is huge! But their domestic debt is also big . If their external debt is about $100bn, how are they going to print rands to escape a default, you idiot? The printing of local currency to pay debt can only be done in case of domestic debt. And if they try that at their current rate of 6% inflation, then their country would fall into bigger trouble as inflation would spiral up and make many poor. In that case it is wiser to default than to print money like Idi Amin. ![]() rvp2018:You know zilch about international finance! You proved it again. Quantitative Easing is used to increase inflation in countries where the inflation is already too low. This is going to reenergize the economy and make people spend more, especially locally produced goods. Europe and America can risk this, not South Africa which imports more than it exports like Kenya! rvp2018:Inflation rate in EU at the time was less than 1%. South Africa's is 6%, idiot. You are comparing apples and bananas. rvp2018:If South Africa's debt is mainly domestic, then you are talking of over $100bn. If they print that much, they'll sink. Nigeria doesn't do that and won't. That may be an option for Kenya. But not Nigeria. rvp2018:I don't even want to talk about Kenya's debt. Nigeria and South Africa are big economies that can somehow find a way round their debt problems, but Kenya can not. With a debt at 100% of your $6Obn GDP, you are finished. As in Kaput. 2 Likes |
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