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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 9:48pm On May 26, 2020
Only if the kenyans know that majority of d Nigerians kicking their arse here are in their 20s. grin

One mumu up there has a 10yr old daughter and a younger son..... I wonder what his daughter will feel like if she sees what her dad is posting on the internet through his gadget.

Enjoy kids.... Don't be a dumbo like ur dad. cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:49pm On May 26, 2020
Im not even referring to Asia alone

From the America's to Europe

pick any country any you will find monopolies.
rvp2018:
Don't confuse what Asian tigers did to protect infant industries with corrupt-Nigeria closed economy to benefit a few barons.

If Nigeria was succeeding - they won't have overtaken India in poverty - at the time they are pumping more oil that ever before.

If you look at almost every indicator - Nigeria is sinking deeper into poverty and financial crisis.

Dangote can buy the country now.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:50pm On May 26, 2020
compiling more debt for 12 years is not flying kiddo

that is simply disaster
rvp2018:
Where is Ghana Airline? South Africa Airways and Ethiopia Airlines were the only ones who could light a candle to us. Now South Africa is down out.

KQ is still flying and we are working on making it stronger by doing what Ethiopians and Arab Airlines are doing - we are going to heavily capitalize the Airline by giving it the Airports and many assets.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:53pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
Obaboon, I see you've lost any semblance of maturity and you're now inviting me to you schoolyard prank. Sorry, I am too old for that. My daughter who is 10 is also declining the offer - and so is my younger son. I think you need to get fellow Nigerians into the pigsty and make a nice mess of it.
You have a ten year old child and your life is like this?!!! I pity that young man for having a useless and jobless father. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 9:54pm On May 26, 2020
Go back to school kid


Kenya is not New Zealand, that country has a way better economy.

You should learn the ills of helicopter money.
rvp2018:
Yet another ignorant Nigeria,

Quick Google Search - Just this week New Zeland as we speak is printing money to pay off debt. Countries nationalize their debt if it's domestic. That one way to ensure the economy doesn't sink

ANZ expects the Reserve Bank will increase the cap on quantitative easing to $90 billion in August, by earmarking up to another $30b for bond purchases.

The Reserve Bank increased the size of its quantitative easing (QE) programme from $33b to $60b last week in an effort to sooth financial markets.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/121546567/anz-tips-reserve-bank-to-lift-cap-on-quantitative-easing-to-90-billion
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:54pm On May 26, 2020
theenchanter:
Only if the kenyans know that majority of d Nigerians kicking their arse here are in their 20s. grin

One mumu up their has a 10yr old daughter and a younger son..... I wonder what his daughter will feel like if she sees what her dad is posting on the internet through his gadget.

Enjoy kids.... Don't be a dumbo like ur dad. cheesy
I was shocked!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:55pm On May 26, 2020
Just30:
Go back to school kid


Kenya is not New Zealand, that country has a way better economy.

You should learn the ills of helicopter money.
I told him the same damn thing! New Zealand has an inflation rate of just 1.2%.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:56pm On May 26, 2020
So basically all the market liberalized economy is nonsense and we should go for monopolies - and create mini-Nigeria of 1 billionaire selling salt and 150m poor people. You still have communist hangovers.

Countries protect infant industries - but for a short period of time - and with serious targets - and without corruption. The idea is once they mature - you OPEN the market for international competition.

Nigeria is the opposite - you start with a monopoly and forever keep the monopoly by banning imports.

For every monopoly - the biggest sufferer is the CONSUMER - which is why the market economy always wins - because the customer wins with competition - price, quality, name it.

Just30:
Im not even referring to Asia alone

From the America's to Europe

pick any country any you will find monopolies.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 9:56pm On May 26, 2020
Just30:
compiling more debt for 12 years is not flying kiddo

that is simply disaster
I can't just fathom the reason such company is not closing down and call it a day. When was the last time they made a profit of ten shillings?I guess, even during RvP grandfather time, it was such a mess. Well, that's what happens when you put political appointees in control of enterprises instead of business directors . Sadly I fear safaricom which is their biggest industry might be heading to its knees as well.

Someone just said looses are taxed in Kenya too grin therefore it will not be prudent declaring it closed. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 9:59pm On May 26, 2020
We were talking about South Africa. I don't recall advising Kenya to nationalize debt or print money . I have always advised Kenya to continue with refinancing it's debt - until it get back to good solvency ratios - and then restart leveraging.

My advice for Ghana - find a way to get people to trust the CEDIS - otherwise you're like Zambia -DOOMED.

Just30:
Go back to school kid


Kenya is not New Zealand, that country has a way better economy.

You should learn the ills of helicopter money.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:02pm On May 26, 2020
Liberalization is a fucking nonsense

It is like a sales pitch that keeps countries dependent on others and opens up other countries for capitulation.

For more than 100 years, the US was big on keeping monopolies.
Even today, They are busy keeping their monopolies above water.
rvp2018:
So basically all the market liberalized economy is nonsense and we should go for monopolies - and create mini-Nigeria of 1 billionaire selling salt and 150m poor people. You still have communist hangovers.

Countries protect infant industries - but for a short period of time - and with serious targets - and without corruption. The idea is once they mature - you OPEN the market for international competition.

Nigeria is the opposite - you start with a monopoly and forever keep the monopoly by banning imports.

For every monopoly - the biggest sufferer is the CONSUMER - which is why the market economy always wins - because the customer wins with competition - price, quality, name it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:03pm On May 26, 2020
KQ is critical national asset. We are not Ghana backwater or Nigeria to allow it to die. We have built our horticulture and flower sector on the back on it.

Airline industry is like that. There was time when KQ was winning awards left right and center. That time Ethiopia airline was making huge losses.

That time was until 2012. KQ went down. Ethiopia airline came up. KQ by now would be bigger than ET Airlines.

Sorry but where is Ghana Airways again? So we can listen to you.

vaxx:
I can't just fathom the reason such company is not closing down and call it a day. When was the last time they made a profit of ten shillings?I guess, even during RvP grandfather time, it was such a mess. Well, that's what happens when you put political appointees in control of enterprises instead of business directors . Sadly I fear safaricom which is their biggest industry might be heading to its knees as well.

Someone just said looses are taxed in Kenya too grin therefore it will not be prudent declaring it closed. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 10:04pm On May 26, 2020
Just30:
Liberalization is a fucking nonsense

It is like a slaves pitch that keeps countries dependent on others and opens up other countries for capitulation.

For more than 100 years, the US was big on keeping monopolies.
Even today, They are busy keeping their monopolies above water.
He is learning.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:05pm On May 26, 2020
I didnt mistake it for Kenya.

It will be bad for SA.

They will end up opening a new pandora box that will sink their economy.

rvp2018:
We were talking about South Africa. I don't recall advising Kenya to nationalize debt or print money . I have always advised Kenya to continue with refinancing it's debt - until it get back to good solvency ratios - and then restart leveraging.

My advice for Ghana - find a way to get people to trust the CEDIS - otherwise you're like Zambia -DOOMED.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:06pm On May 26, 2020
You tried communist and by 1961 before Kenya became independent - you had filed for bankruptcy and you invited the IMF to run your country ever since.

There is a reason why IMF keep coming - you communist hangovers are tad too much - and they have to keep coming and coming - to teach you the wonders of open market liberalized economy.

China tried it - and they have lifted millions out of poverty. Nigeria and your - little Nigeria - should try it. No Dangote. But many small competitive business selling slat.

Just30:
Liberalization is a fucking nonsense

It is like a slaves pitch that keeps countries dependent on others and opens up other countries for capitulation.

For more than 100 years, the US was big on keeping monopolies.
Even today, They are busy keeping their monopolies above water.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:07pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
We were talking about South Africa. I don't recall advising Kenya to nationalize debt or print money . I have always advised Kenya to continue with refinancing it's debt - until it get back to good solvency ratios - and then restart leveraging.

My advice for Ghana - find a way to get people t[b]o trust the CEDIS -[/b] otherwise you're like Zambia -DOOMED.

As at today , cedis is in better shape and that has been existing since it was first announced as the best performing currency in Africa against dollar earlier this year. The dollar has been arrested and the key used in locking her had been throw into Atlantic ocean ( As the vice president will say).

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Noisyrians: 10:07pm On May 26, 2020
What is this one saying? Kenya Republic of China grin the Chinese are coming ooh grin women are boiling stones to feed their hungry children in your cursed zoo grin grin the cedi is doing fine. 47 million starving, impoverished mudder fuggerz grin

rvp2018:
We were talking about South Africa. I don't recall advising Kenya to nationalize debt or print money . I have always advised Kenya to continue with refinancing it's debt - until it get back to good solvency ratios - and then restart leveraging.

My advice for Ghana - find a way to get people to trust the CEDIS - otherwise you're like Zambia -DOOMED.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:08pm On May 26, 2020
It's an option country like South Africa with mostly domestic debt can take. Whether they take it - depend on them. It not an option for Ghana, Kenya or Nigeria.
Just30:
I didnt mistake it for Kenya.

It will be bad for SA.

They will end up opening a new pandora box that will sink their economy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:08pm On May 26, 2020
So you will want to keep making losses for the next 50 years?

The US was sensible enough to leave the Airline business to private players when their national airlines kept making losses.

rvp2018:
KQ is critical national asset. We are not Ghana backwater or Nigeria to allow it to die. We have built our horticulture and flower sector on the back on it.

Airline industry is like that. There was time when KQ was winning awards left right and center. That time Ethiopia airline was making huge losses.

That time was until 2012. KQ went down. Ethiopia airline came up. KQ by now would be bigger than ET Airlines.

Sorry but where is Ghana Airways again? So we can listen to you.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:09pm On May 26, 2020
How many Ghanaians still prefer dollar account to protect theirssavings. Your useless CEDIS is like Zambia Kwacha. Nobody trust it. Even if you DEMONIZITIZE it very year and peg it 1:1 to the dollar.
vaxx:
As at today , cedis is in better shape and that has been existing since it was first announced as the best performing currency in Africa against dollar earlier this year. The dollar has been arrested and throw into Atlantic ocean ( As the vice president will say).

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:11pm On May 26, 2020
We have made profit before for many years- and we will soon make profit. So we understand why we want to keep KQ flying. Our gov alone - travel budget is big enough - to finance an airline. So why would we give all that money to foreign airlines.
Just30:
So you will want to keep making losses for the next 50 years?

The US was sensible enough to leave the Airline business to private players when their national airlines kept making losses.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:11pm On May 26, 2020
do you know what Non-Align movement is ?

Give it a read.

rvp2018:
You tried communist and by 1961 before Kenya became independent - you had filed for bankruptcy and you invited the IMF to run your country ever since.

There is a reason why IMF keep coming - you communist hangovers are tad too much - and they have to keep coming and coming - to teach you the wonders of open market liberalized economy.

China tried it - and they have lifted millions out of poverty. Nigeria and your - little Nigeria - should try it. No Dangote. But many small competitive business selling slat.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:13pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
It's an option country like South Africa with mostly domestic debt can take. Whether they take it - depend on them. It not an option for Ghana, Kenya or Nigeria.
An option that will be bad for even SA
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Noisyrians: 10:13pm On May 26, 2020
Those Chinese loans are expensive grin see how kenya has become a Chinese colony for $9 billion angry grin the Chinese will soon take over your country ooh grin they are not joking grin you and your fellow Kenyans can serve your new Chinese masters grin hope you are learning their language grin

rvp2018:
It's an option country like South Africa with mostly domestic debt can take. Whether they take it - depend on them. It not an option for Ghana, Kenya or Nigeria.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:14pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
How many Ghanaians still prefer dollar account to protect theirssavings. Your useless CEDIS is like Zambia Kwacha. Nobody trust it. Even if you DEMONIZITIZE it very year and peg it 1:1 to the dollar.
You cant own a dollar account here if you dont earn in dollars.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:15pm On May 26, 2020
We are talking about economics. Not politics. Kenya was part of Non-aligned. But we choose the capitalism system and in the 1990s - we open our economy - and so we cannot be a Nigeria with an import ban list for Abuja fatcats.

We cannot have a salt billionaire.

Just30:
do you know what Non-Align movement is ?

Give it a read.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:15pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
We have made profit before for many years- and we will soon make profit. So we understand why we want to keep KQ flying. Our gov alone - travel budget is big enough - to finance an airline. So why would we give all that money to foreign airlines.
12 years and more counting
not a single profit

If your government travel budget is big enough
KQ wont be having a problem meeting it operation cost.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:16pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
How many Ghanaians still prefer dollar account to protect theirssavings. Your useless CEDIS is like Zambia Kwacha. Nobody trust it. Even if you DEMONIZITIZE it very year and peg it 1:1 to the dollar.
economics has remained something to be more stronger than what you can understand . Contribution of stabilized cedis is simply as a result of stable inflation rate , low rate in producer consumer index , and a lot of dollar in bank of Ghana account ( A whopping amount of 10 billion dollar ) that can last another quarter of the year.

Until you begin to understand common terms as such, you remain an idiot . Redomination is good when your currency is price lower than the value , America and other progressive country once did it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 10:17pm On May 26, 2020
Maybe - but they are on it.

The South African Reserve Bank has announced quantitative easing (QE) which is a practice that was introduced by many leading central banks in the global financial crisis to buy bonds and other assets in the open market.Mar 25, 2020

Just30:
An option that will be bad for even SA

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 10:17pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
We are talking about economics. Not politics. Kenya was part of Non-aligned. But we choose the capitalism system and in the 1990s - we open our economy - and so we cannot be a Nigeria with an import ban list for Abuja fatcats.

We cannot have a salt billionaire.

Learn about non-Align first and you will know how the politics transcends the economics
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:18pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
You're as always very obtuse. Nigeria has 30-50 basic items including sugar that are banned from being imported. We know Nigeria is not self-sufficent in sugar. So basically Abuja bans something - and they issue import waivers to their financiers or friends. And those people get captive market of 200m to sell basic commodities like Sugar at any price.

Blah,blah blah....bus sugar refinery which apparently is the largest ever on mama Africa will make us sufficient...

Now tell me why your supposedly $100bn which is close to our $200bn economy has not produce quarter the billionaires that we have....
That is something you should learn from Nigeria...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 10:19pm On May 26, 2020
rvp2018:
And here is how Obasanjo created Dangote

A major beneficiary of the Obasanjo tax and duty waiver illegalities is the billionaire
businessman, Aliko Dangote and his Dangote Group of Companies. A Dangote
company report published in 2006 showed that at that time, the company controlled 81
percent of the Nigerian sugar market, 40 percent of the cement market, 33 percent of the
flour market, 54 percent of the pasta market and 72 percent of the salt market. “The
latest figure indicates that the Dangote Group still maintains the first position in each of
these commodities; now controlling about 93 per cent of the sugar market, 86 per cent
of cement, 73 per cent of flour, 74 per cent of pasta and 89 per cent of salt.”44 It was
therefore not surprising that in 2011, Dangote was listed as the richest man in Africa by
Forbes magazine. 45 The entwinement of political patronage and import duty waivers in
Nigeria is perhaps best brought out by this case. During the two presidential elections
that Obasanjo contested (1999 and 2003), Dangote donated N100 million and N250
million respectively to his campaign. Aside from the above, he also donated N211.6
million towards the construction of Obasanjo’s Presidential Library and cement worth
N3 billion towards the construction of the head office of the Obasanjo’s ruling Peoples
Democratic Party (PDP) all during Obasanjo’s tenure as President.46 Based on the
above, it was therefore not surprising that some of the companies in the Dangote Group
.

Blah,blah,blah you are making noise
... perphap you should tell us how obsanjo also made our individual billionaires..

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