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Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 2:36pm On May 28, 2020 |
tensazangetsu20: You first need to understand the difference between African-Americans and African Immigrants. And like wise Asian-Americans. By definition these lot have had generations on generations of their lineage residing in the US to make it almost impossible to trace country or roots. You cant expect an African American to migrate back to a continent he and his generations before have never known. African Americans that have been profiled and killed in the States were not desperate as you claim thus did not leave Africa through this "Sahara and Mediterranean" crossing you speak of as they have been there for years - another reason you need to understand the difference between African Americans and African immigrants. Not that it matters when you arrive there as you are just another person of color. Even jamaicans (black) suffer racial profiling in US. Did they too cross your Sahara desert or have a disaster class as a country? Again. South America by nominal GDP used to be poor even now just above Africa by a 1000 billion usd (wikipedia not me) But even then, the ones in US were never racially slurred harassed or killed because sha they have white skin. Even when their race was popularly known with drugs. Oceania too has a nominal GDP below africa, we dont hear of kiwis in the US gunned by police. Can it be because they have a white skin? This same successful race you claim are the ones that destroy(ed) developing countries during colonial rule and still do today indirectly. Chairman. I maintain, anti-black racism had nothing to do with - how- are-yall-saying-it - development of dominant country of race or kilonkpe. Once you have a black skin irrespective of whatever social class, country you are from, the System haunts you. |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 2:42pm On May 28, 2020 |
rationalhuman: I am really happy you didnt experience that. That line was from The Guardian. I'm sure research was done on that before it was published there. And again, they say blacks, Nigerians arent the only blacks. There are black Indians too. Might I also add, the punishment for dealing is not anti-black Racism. 3 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Decimus: 2:43pm On May 28, 2020 |
Black race is the richest and racism will never end. |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by xxxXXXxxx: 2:43pm On May 28, 2020 |
We Africans need to progressively develop our collective mindset to improve Our reality. They don't necessarily need to love blacks. However,they must respect,once the Black race becomes successful. it means respect must be earned not gifted. It's only mutual respect that can make all races to be genuinely friendly with each other. The Op did a great job to bring this to peoples' conciousness. Thumbs up to Gerrard59 . Salford1 captured the message concisely. Pls, Op. what's it with ur signature: Learn Mathematics!!! ? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 3:06pm On May 28, 2020 |
DGodson99: In summary you say African Americans and nationals of other European countries with historic African decent should stay silent, keep getting wasted, dehumanised, killed and racially abused while they wait for a black nation(s) in Africa whom they have no knowledge of to wake up and get RICH? If this is a simplification of what he is saying. I dont want to get it. 1 Like |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Minemrys: 3:12pm On May 28, 2020 |
Nice 0ne. 4 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by xxxXXXxxx: 3:31pm On May 28, 2020 |
DGodson99: That guy and the first commenter didn't get the point of the write up. 6 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by DGodson99: 3:37pm On May 28, 2020 |
annex1: You ain't getting it. Has not staying silent solved this pathetic incidents ? We have been complaining for ages and it seem to get worse. It's just sad mehn. Imagine if Africa was a lot better, do you think any idiot can dare abuse us racially? 6 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by llakes4real: 6:23pm On May 28, 2020 |
Gerrard59: Excellent response! |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Nobody: 6:36pm On May 28, 2020 |
tensazangetsu20: That's because all these races are proud of their heritage. Blacks want to be anything but black!! And to add to this, When other races were discriminated against, they rose to the challenge. Blacks seem to be complacent in their inferiority. Instead of revolting against their enemies, they attempt to blend in. The superior race is not willing to blend their resources with people that don't have the pride to create resources of their own. And I know people will argue their too poor to do anything. Well in order to do anything, you have to sacrifice the comfort of complacency. 7 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by llakes4real: 7:04pm On May 28, 2020 |
Africa can only become wealthy by producing things! And am pretty certain our wealth would reduce the wealth of Chinese and other Asians, because these people rely heavily on our market and our unproductivity. Am of the opinion that Africa bleeds too much to the Asians. They just dump anything here even things we don't need. A poor man should not buy things he doesn't need! Why should Africa governments allow their citizens use the little forex we have to buy useless goods or services? Our leadership are also very quick to bleed the country at the slightest opportunity. They award fraudulent contracts to foreigners without minding the resultant effect on the economy of their country. How would we develop with that kind of leadership? In conclusion, Africa getting rich is going to very tough, but I believe it is not impossible! 7 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 7:12pm On May 28, 2020 |
Gerrard59: Boss please give dates, links and facts when you refer to Japanese, Asians and the likes relocating from America to they respective countries due to anti-asian racism. Even in the height of American cruelty towards "japs" following pearl harbour there were no documentation or record of Japanese relocating the USA back to Japan. And trust me Japanese had been entering the US in droves since 1909 for menial jobs when immigration didn't support the Chinese. Not even the Naturalization Act of 1790 that made Asians ineligible for citizenship made them mass relocate to their continent. Definitely not the US anti chinese legislations in 1879. Not even the Several massacres of Chinese people, including the Rock Springs massacre of 1885 and the Hells Canyon massacre of 1887 made them leave the US though these further exemplified deep American racist animus against Chinese people. What even brought them close (China and US) was their aiding the Amercans during WW2 thus re-enabling Asian immigration to the country. Baba please give facts, links and date of these mass relocations in the face of actual "black lives matter" kind of racism that you speak of. Please read these stuff it's all here, I didnt write it https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism_in_the_United_States I repeat, Africa's under-development, wealth, social status has nothing to do with anti-black racism that AAs face in America. I understand that you anxiously need to draw a connection. But there is none! The world needs to mutually respect each other. Not putting the lives of AAs on the line of Africa's under development. Discuss africa's under-development in another thread. But leave it out of discussing Anti-Black Racism. For 400 years the only business Africans learnt was selling ourselves, an initiative that was sold to us by them. Add the additional years they spent in colonizing and mismanaging us. Boss just Please! 1 Like |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Nobody: 7:27pm On May 28, 2020 |
Not to mention that the superior races have pitted all blacks around the world against each other. Africans are quick to call black Americans lazy, ignorant loud, obnoxious, warning Africans not to socialize with us unless you turn out the same. Yet there is a whole continent of blacks "just like us". If blacks in the diaspora even wanted to return to "Mother Africa", then we'd have to put up with y'all's tribal warfare and self hatred!! annex1: 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by llakes4real: 7:56pm On May 28, 2020 |
annex1: The whites didn't teach us slave trade! It was already established before the came to buy the slaves. The major market for slaves back then were the Arabs. And some intra-africa trades which used the slaves to fight their wars. You don't understand Gerrard59's point! Our race is always on the defensive when these events happen, because we are poor! Imagine if Africa was a rich continent and the blacks all over the world know they have another home, they wouldn't take all the shit they get from other places. All they need to do is relocate! Whites in South Africa are relocating from the country because they know they have other options. No sane, Africa American would do that. He would rather protest and manage the condition he has found himself, because he knows his condition there is way better that what is obtainable in "your home". Respect is earned! And Africa's success would go a long way to improve the respect other people have for us. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by kindklemz(m): 8:34pm On May 28, 2020 |
How can a sane person disagree with this writer? THIS is exactly what I have been saying. Sadly, just like the people above who disagree with this, our Leaders lack the IQ to see things in this direction. Ontop of that, Tribalism and Nepotism won't allow the black race to rise up and defend herself against all sorts of economic sabotage by the western world. Until the black race becomes wealthy, She will continue to suffer discrimination from the rest of the world. I agree with you 100% poster. Imagin Nigeria been able to produce everything she consumes, enough to export. Imagine other countries depending on Nigeria for all of their needs. Imagine Americans moving their businesses to Nigeria because of more favorable business environment including fair labor. Just imagine... 17 Likes 1 Share |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by wdacharley(m): 8:39pm On May 28, 2020 |
You are not making any sense bro annex1: 7 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:39pm On May 28, 2020 |
sexylassie2: its a gradual process,blacks will be rich soon 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:41pm On May 28, 2020 |
ProfAmaben: i dont think this is entirely true,how do you know if the malaysians dont think like that,not every African have such mindsets,the problem with Nigeria for example is that the low iq poor ones keeping producing lots and lots of children thereby fueling massive poverty 3 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:43pm On May 28, 2020 |
kindklemz: Nigeria can do all these it just takes leadership,the older generation can do it,a young new African generation must change the destiny of Africa 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:46pm On May 28, 2020 |
MarjieJ98354: Tribal warfare its not a normal thing for Africans it is fuelled by poverty not because we just want to war with eachother,the rich and middle class dont engage in tribal warfare.its only low iq poor people that do such.It only occurs in the deep hinterland not in cities. 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 8:49pm On May 28, 2020 |
llakes4real: Sir. Who started, bought, came back to patronize and continued patronizing is inconsequential as it wasnt a "black man" but caucasians (and I mean, Portuguese, south american, whatever) - I dont even want to get into that history. And for your second paragraph, when you say race, you mean AA? Or Africans? AAs are the ones suffering and fighting against Anti-Black racism in America. And please dont compare a white South african's genealogy in South Africa to African American's gyneology as its as it's a lot easier to trace the former than latter. For example Elon musk was born of a South African father and Canadian mom or Charlize Theron whose mom was German and South African. Most of these AAs generation after generation of slave trade only know America as home so how or who is being defensive when anti-black American racism comes up? - you may need to explain. Where do you want them to go? They should leave a country where their fore fathers have contributed to fight/ fought to end slavery, civil war, ww2, black segregation in schools, public spaces, seperate but equal, segregation in sports. Civil rights act? You are joking. Do not use a continent or race's economic disposition as cause of racism. It is absurd. Even when the Chinese were migrating to the US in the 1800s, the Qings dynasty (1644-1912) wasnt doing bad economically and were doing well agricultural and even reducing tax burden and improving military(also in wikipedia) . So why then was there multiple chinese massacres and Asian racism in America. Even the Japanese who also suffered this were not under-developed - people who had fed well enough to want to fight the US and evade a whole France. Yet their japanese american immigrants faced the same anti-asian racism in America. Immigration is compulsory, no matter how flourishing your country's economy is. People must emigrate for better living. My brother. Racism has no genuine reason just effects. |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by ProfAmaben(m): 8:51pm On May 28, 2020 |
babasolution:I laugh at those trying to defend this country. How many Malaysians have you seen in your life? Do you know how many Nigerians are planning to leave even right now? In my analysis, I didn't even mention Nigeria because in Africa, we aren't even first 5 presently in any ramification. Africa is a stupid continent with people filled with bile and hatred. It's only Africa that people go to church on a Monday morning and expect their roads and electricity to be miraculously fixed. 10 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:52pm On May 28, 2020 |
[quote author=llakes4real post=90061214]Africa can only become wealthy by producing things! And am pretty certain our wealth would reduce the wealth of Chinese and other Asians, because these people rely heavily on our market and our unproductivity. Am of the opinion that Africa bleeds too much to the Asians. They just dump anything here even things we don't need. A poor man should not buy things he doesn't need! Why should Africa governments allow their citizens use the little forex we have to buy useless goods or services? Our leadership are also very quick to bleed the country at the slightest opportunity. They award fraudulent contracts to foreigners without minding the resultant effect on the economy of their country. How would we develop with that kind of leadership? true all we need i think is the right leadership,if we have the will we will succeed,what bleeds Nigeria is purly corruption of the elite,the elites want quick and easy money,that why they dont really stare the country in the direction of production,African elites especially political elite have been historically been very wicked,we need a new breed of elites to change our destiny 1 Like |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by babasolution: 8:54pm On May 28, 2020 |
ProfAmaben: its a lie,who told you people expect their roads to be miraculously tarred,seems you role only with low iq ghetto people,all the things you mentioned doesnt reflect Nigeria at all,seems you are based abroad 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 8:57pm On May 28, 2020 |
wdacharley: I was hoping you can make some bro. |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by llakes4real: 9:51pm On May 28, 2020 |
annex1: Whether AA, or Africa, or any other A, we are all Negroid (Black) race! The migration of white South African is not country specific, but where they know they are a majority (aka a country that welcomes them). Musk was not an American before he migrated their to a name for himself. The same thing another black American would do if they have that option. Why must AA look for the exact country they originated from? Any African country that is financially capable of accommodating them would do just fine! During the first influx of slave trade returnees there were so many Yoruba people that were shipped to countries like Ghana and sierra leone, and are still there today!
I agree with you racism had no bound, but "people dey look face before dem do am." There was a time the Italians look down on Chinese because of their economic standing. But today (before Covid19 o!) they are scared of the way the Chinese are taking over their traditional institutions like coffee shops. They have come to respect them for industrious nature and their wealth. Rather they all channeled that hate on us, because it is very easy for them to do. How many Americans would look down on a Japanese as against a Nigerian? I also agree that we must all migrate for greener pastures, but how you are treated in the place you migrated to depends mainly on the status of your home country! 6 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 10:09pm On May 28, 2020 |
llakes4real: Africans in Africa are not the recipients of Anti black racism. Its African Americans in America. So if you happen to be an African schooling or what not in the US and unfortunately experience racism and cant stomach it, they can heed to you and Boss's advise to return to Africa and develop it as a solution. Musk is Canadian by birth. And i gave that analogy to buttress that most whites in SA know what genealogy they belong to.The hell I care where white South Africans go to? What racial abuse and stigma have white South Africans suffered compared to African Americans in America? They are already white plus have additional (known) citizenship from their parents. How will immigration to any other developed (and you know it will have to be developed) country be hard for them. llakes4real: Again I ask why should people leave a country where their fore fathers have contributed to fight/ fought to end slavery, civil war, ww2, black segregation in schools, public spaces, seperate but equal, segregation in sports. Civil rights act? You are joking. Secondly, in terms of immigration. The one we learnt in Social Studies, do people generally leave a more stable, economic and viable land for a lesser and less secure one? If this is your remedy why didnt the Asians mass migrate from the US in the peak of the Anti-Asian Racism? Also in 1800s till early 1900s. If this is a solution why didnt they consider doing it. These periods are even later than when african slave migrations to the US began. llakes4real: I will still say the same thing again. Racism has been existent in the United States for centuries. Races who suffered same fate were not from countries or continents in economic turmoil. But yet were killed, treated with disdain and ostracized.That should tell you a lot about your postulations and theory. Racism has nothing to do with how under-developed a continent is. 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by llakes4real: 10:20pm On May 28, 2020 |
annex1: Okay
So what do you think African Americans should do? |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by annex1: 10:33pm On May 28, 2020 |
llakes4real:I dont have all the answers but the same thing they did for emancipation of slavery, voting rights, marriage discrimination, neighbourhood/ public space segregation and other absurdities on the jim crow lists, civil rights act, owning homes, properties, businesses and getting loans, educating themselves enough to defend innocently incarcerated black folk. And to even becoming a president. They should not relent in fighting to getting themselves heard. Their fore fathers have fought and contributed equally In putting their country where it is. They cant coward out. Thank you Llakes and Boss Gerrard for this thread. It has been insightful. 3 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by Gerrard59(m): 11:05pm On May 28, 2020 |
annex1: You made excellent points but judging from how the Chinese are retaliating and how there is or seems to be respect for other races compared to blacks across the world (I am concerned with the outlook across the world), I believe we need to be rich and this will be achieved when the dominant environment is rich. I see it (being rich) as the only way to gain respect as humans respect those who are powerful (wealth begets power). Using the Igbo case study, they were almost obliterated from the face of the earth but they embraced and practiced extreme capitalism. As a result, they are respected not necessarily liked. I believe the best way to shut someone and shame them for their actions is by calling the person's bluff. Unfortunately, a poor person cannot do this as there is no power. As a black person, I feel pain when I see racial discrimination and hatred against our people anywhere in the world, however, we cannot fight back as we have no power and this is because we are poor. Unfortunately, there has been no economic growth in two of the biggest black dominated countries and the train seems to be leaving us as after this pandemic, everyone go retreat from globalisation and answer their fathers' names. Going forward, countries or I dare say races will become very nationalistic and selfish. It is time we start trading and doing things amongst ourselves to spur economic growth. There just has to be a concerted effort somehow as we now have two mammoths besides us (China/other Asians and the West). Regarding AAs relocating to Africa, that is very possible as modern genetics can aid in the process of knowing one's origins. Also, with a rich Africa, one can alternatively choose any country of choice and live there. An instance is this AA family relocating to Botswana: https://www.aainafrica.com/blog/paula-in-botswana https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0LqKlVUWOoc (a program explaining why some AAs are moving in droves to Africa) Thanks for your time. 2 Likes |
Re: For Racism Against Blacks To Reduce Drastically, The Black Race Needs To Be Rich by HarryDuce(m): 12:44am On May 29, 2020 |
You made very good points although I don't entirely agree with everything you've stated. The East Asians are still discriminated against, sure. The Indians and Arabs and others as well; But the thing is, all of this discrimination is in opposition to blackness. The closer you are to being white and affirming to Western/European values, the more respect you get from people all over the world. This is just a general rule (sadly). Japan and South Korea are two very successful nations that hardly export undesirables. No matter how "developed", "rich", "civilised" they are, someone from a less developed "White" country would get more respect than they would in many countries in a similar outlook. The mind is a strong contributing factor as well. Slavery --and poverty-- over several centuries in Arabia, East Asia and the Americas have left a lasting impression in the cultures of many. Many people think that white is always right including and not restricted to black people. Rich Black/Asians are not left out. I think In addition to accumulating wealth, black people need to have a very positive impact on the world that is visible and lasting to every creed. This is the most important thing in my opinion. 2 Likes |
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