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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 9:09pm On May 28, 2020 |
forgiveness:welcome back man.. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:10pm On May 28, 2020 |
safarigirl: That is why the zeal is a big part of it. Look at Sharks falling, a team of the calibre of Sharks FC go down like that, a team that its system has produced players like Ebiede, Finidi George, Taribo West, Owubokiri, iyenemi furo and Peter Rufai. If they saw local football as an investment opportunity and taking over the club, the tradition would have continued. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:13pm On May 28, 2020 |
Joebie: No one said it is turn by turn or they can not take the lead. The fact is that you are turning your eyes from the motivational aspect. These guys can not be motivated to do something they do not know about. They need the familiarity. If they want to, by all means, they are welcomed. No one has said they should not come. I am just saying those who know what is on ground, been part of the system and have an idea of the prospects should lead the way. Touch shining a light for the others to find their way in. Nothing antagonistic about it. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:14pm On May 28, 2020 |
Go ask many successful businessmen today they will tell you stories of their many losses. Investment should be open to all who can. The prudent ones with the thickest skin will make heads way anyway, many will be unsuccessful You want to regulate who should invest based on how successful you think they will be or whether they are homegrown or not.. una matter tire me. we have a long way to go. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 9:15pm On May 28, 2020 |
Victor too big for Arsenal? Take am easy now. Perhaps Osimhen is too small for Arsenal. ![]() ![]() mostob: 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:18pm On May 28, 2020 |
Joebie: You are just burying your head in an antagonistic notion. I repeat no one said it should be regulated. I wonder where your getting that bent idea from. It is not the point in any way. If any of them wants to start, I bet you they will call their fellow Nigerian footballing friends for their take on things and advice. Why? Because, they know the Nigerian has more familiarity. Does that sound like marginalisation? I said, to motivate their foreign counterparts to do the same, not marginalise, the homegrowns need to show commitment. I wonder why you have a problem with that. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:25pm On May 28, 2020 |
There is a reason why I quoted your first line. Any serious entrepreneur (regardless of where they come from) who is considering embarking on a said biz venture knows well to do their due diligence and get as much knowledge as possible before deciding on whether to dive in or not. It's not in your position to set standards on who should go first. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:26pm On May 28, 2020 |
hahaha.. even the homegrown ones won't they still need to seek expert advice? TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:33pm On May 28, 2020 |
Joebie: Which my position? I have no position it is just plain logic. If foreigners see homegrown footballers they know succeeding and making big marks in the African scene. Financially and also boosting developments. They will be motivated to look that way. Plain logic. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:38pm On May 28, 2020 |
yes plain logic in any business venture. Those who don't know the terrain will learn from others who have weathered it or at least learn from experts who have done studies. I am looking at all of them as prospective investors. There isn't really any need to divide them in two groups yet again, and have to pinpoint that one group should lead the way. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:41pm On May 28, 2020 |
Joebie: While we are waiting for all prospects, those here should start something. Finidi - Port Harcourt, Amunike - Owerri, Yobo - Port Harcourt, Kanu Owerri etc. Does that sound like marginalisation or division? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 9:44pm On May 28, 2020 |
He could? Did he? Of course, he did. Rohr would be glad he can achieve what Keshi had. Do you not remember the crop of players Keshi won with, and to top it, we got to the knockout stage of the world cup, the following year. We have not had this crop of players in a long time, honestly. Most of them are young but we've got a talented bunch in our hands. I repeat Rohr better do something with this. And I actually do believe there are local coaches out there that can do as much as Rohr with this crop of players. He hasn't done much with the team anyway. By this I mean we will have to wait till he starts winning trophies to properly assess him. The thing is we would like to have a number of local coaches excelling, and acquiring some technical shrewdness, although at the moment good local coaches are very scarce. Thanks do our system. 5inchdick: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:46pm On May 28, 2020 |
As MJ would sing, "gotta be starting something". Who say make dem no start? But Balotelli has something in mind according to the quote. Na him get he money. Modified To answer your question, why not Finidi --Lagos, Amunike --Kano etc ![]() TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:52pm On May 28, 2020 |
There is a reason why coaches have mandates. I've never heard an SE coach get the mandate to win 20 number of matches out of 30 for example. It's always based on winning a cup or making a certain level of progress at tourneys. some kind of arguments is not just worth it. benji93: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 9:57pm On May 28, 2020 |
benji93:sorry ,how does what you posted here correlate with my insinuations? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 5inchdick: 10:03pm On May 28, 2020 |
benji93:Stop believing. How many of these coaches have given better results. it's ironic nairaland now set Keshi as a benchmark for successful local coach. Same Keshi majority of you here said was tactically inept? Same Keshi lot of you denigrated his achievements, stating he was lucky to have won the AFCON and shit? I still believed Keshi is the best Eagle's coach but it's fallacy to say he would perform better with these set of players as he could even perform worse with them. Remember his ego made him ignore some top players in the team, same could repeat if Keshi is coach today. We have a coach who is building a team which you all are proud of but it seems he ain't your favourite. let the local coach get the team, since he will surely get a better result. Bullcrap! Let the local coach build his own team and get better results. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:06pm On May 28, 2020 |
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:06pm On May 28, 2020 |
It turns out that in our history of hiring foreign coaches only one foreign coach did better than Keshi, Westerhof with the additional Olympic gold, and Westerhof had the golden generation of players. In all honesty, nothing is better than putting your own in charge, if they have the training. So put a structure in place to enable them to get the training. Edit: Keshi is on par with Westerhof. it was Bonfrere that coached that that team that won the Olympics. Joebie: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 5inchdick: 10:09pm On May 28, 2020 |
Joebie:Before Rohr's appointment, you know the state of the national team. Missing out on two AFCONs and was ranked among no footballing states in the ranking. What was Rohrs mandate? Get to the AFCON semis and Qualify for the World cup. Did he fail on that? Nah, he delivered the desired result. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by dijon: 10:15pm On May 28, 2020 |
Your wish will not come to pass. Edopesin: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 10:16pm On May 28, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd:nice to have u back here |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:17pm On May 28, 2020 |
I would stop you there. I am not among the majority, although I believe he could have done better. His technical ability wasn't top-notch. But man I can not argue with a trophy, and advancement to the second round, however, he got it, whether he got lucky or not he still did. And if Keshi is not the benchmark who is? Stop throwing words around man, calm down. ![]() ![]() Edit: I could ask a similar question, how many foreign coaches have done better than Keshi? 5inchdick: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by enomakos(m): 10:19pm On May 28, 2020 |
maidaboi:long time indeed my brother,nice to hear for u |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 10:25pm On May 28, 2020 |
Apologies, the first sentence was what i thought you wrote. mostob: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by 5inchdick: 10:58pm On May 28, 2020 |
benji93:Your argument is hinged on that: You drew a comparison from what you know, and now, you are assuming that the unknown will follow similar pattern. That, my son, is a fallacy. And for your question, I don't see how it concerns me. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AndSunGorilla: 11:08pm On May 28, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe:As a fact checker, please remove Peter Rufai (Dodo Mayana) from that list. Peter Rufai was produced by Stationary stores before he moved to Femo Scorpions, and so on. Back to the discourse, so many great teams have disappeared from Nigeria. Is it Leventis United, Abiola babes, Ranchers Bees, julius Berger, Stores, the all conquering Amodu Shuaibu's BCC Lions of Gboko and so on. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 11:17pm On May 28, 2020 |
I don't know what job you do man, but people make deductions, based on premises, and my premise was pretty solid. And you are kinda funny you know, what does a deduction mean? Isn't it making inferences? What I did was an extrapolation, and you can't do better than it. He did good with a relatively less talented bunch, it's only reasonable to assume he would do better with a better team. if you think this is not, perhaps you come from a different planet. Perhaps you think we cannot base our opinions on the possibility of events that may or will never happen on the information we already know. Did you even think about this before typing? ![]() ![]() ![]() 5inchdick: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clint02(m): 11:24pm On May 28, 2020 |
safarigirl:Very good Ma ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 11:54pm On May 28, 2020 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:55pm On May 28, 2020 |
benji93:Oh..not at all. Somebody posted the news linking victor to arsenal and I opined that arsenal will be rebuilding and this might pile up pressure on victor. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by mostob(m): 11:57pm On May 28, 2020 |
BTW
thesupernerd
forgiveness
kog45
and others.... Nice to have you back here...you're welcome 3 Likes |
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