typicalgamer:


base form not during his gate form his

gate form nearly killed Madara na

yeah, I am just pointing that out.Itachi is great and all but his chakra reserve is low.what is most annoying is how his fans think he can beat madara and hashirama,such disrespect.

As For Tsukuyomi,we Have heard itachi say that only one who shares the bloodline can disperse it,but also we have heard how perfect jinchurikis can't be put under genjutsu.Which bringr us back to how the Bleep obito was able to put yagura under genjutsu.kishimoto ehn.

Arthurity1:

But will still do irreversible damage. If itachi completely engulfs jiraya in amateratsu, even if he seals it the damage is done.

a Big If.

simonjassy:
yeah, I am just pointing that out.Itachi is great and all but his chakra reserve is low.what is most annoying is how his fans think he can beat madara and hashirama,such disrespect.

As For Tsukuyomi,we Have heard itachi say that only one who shares the bloodline can disperse it,but also we have heard how perfect jinchurikis can't be put under genjutsu.Which bringr us back to how the Bleep obito was able to put yagura under genjutsu.kishimoto ehn.

Perfect jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu... And I have a theory to prove so.

typicalgamer:


I won't give Itachi a 100% win though BEE is a power House like A but he has skills if Itachi gets close enough bam

his tail beast covers amateratsu and genjutsu I don't see where itachi would win with taijutsu

we all know itachi can't cast a full body sussano so tail beast mode bee will skrep him

lol, Besides bee has been shown to spam multiple tbb's.Itachi's Strongest Jutsu Against Bee Would be yata mirror,totsuka blade,susanoo,amaterasu and the greatest would be tsukuyomi.

Arthurity1:

Perfect jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu... And I have a theory to prove so.

okay Bro,give Me Your Best Shot.

Arthurity1:

Perfect jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu... And I have a theory to prove so.

let's go preach

simonjassy:
a Big If.

It's not a big if... It's most likely to happen. I don't see why itachi would only burn one hand or one leg and spare the rest of the body

simonjassy:
lol, Besides bee has been shown to spam multiple tbb's.Itachi's Strongest Jutsu Against Bee Would be yata mirror,totsuka blade,susanoo,amaterasu and the greatest would be tsukuyomi.

we all know if that beast bomb won't work

so when bee realize that

he'll use head taijutsu with his beast


to melt Itachi legless sussano

beht that tosuka blade I don't know o

simonjassy:
yeah, I am just pointing that out.Itachi is great and all but his chakra reserve is low.what is most annoying is how his fans think he can beat madara and hashirama,such disrespect.

As For Tsukuyomi,we Have heard itachi say that only one who shares the bloodline can disperse it,but also we have heard how perfect jinchurikis can't be put under genjutsu.Which bringr us back to how the Bleep obito was able to put yagura under genjutsu.kishimoto ehn.

yagura was never a perfect jinchuriki

try compare Naruto and bee relationship with their tail beast with yagura the beast was put on him from birth

go back and hear what he said when he was released from edo tensei and seal

he might be able to summon and use the beast power at will but that doesn't make him a perfect jinchuriki

Arthurity1:

Perfect jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu... And I have a theory to prove so.

Arthurity1:

While they slept.

Arthurity1:

Perfect jinchurikis can be put under genjutsu... And I have a theory to prove so.

so a clan that was planning how to kill the hokage and install their own,would be done in easily through sleep.People with such plans will never be caught "asleep" of all ways.it is just like saying boko haram were caught asleep by the military,aren't their patrols,these people knew of the anbu and would have taken great care to make sure they themselves are protected.

typicalgamer:


let's go preach

As we all know, the sharingan can see into a jinchuriki's psyche allowing them to meet the bijuu face to face. And the way a perfect jinchuriki escapes genjutsu is by being injected chakra directly from the bijuu. If you put the bijuu under genjutsu first, there would be no way for chakra to get injected into the jinchuriki hence allowing the said individual to enter a perfect genjutsu.
Putting both bijuu and jinchuriki under genjutsu.

typicalgamer:


yagura was never a perfect jinchuriki

try compare Naruto and bee relationship with their tail beast with yagura the beast was put on him from birth

go back and hear what he said when he was released from edo tensei and seal

he might be able to summon and use the beast power at will but that doesn't make him a perfect jinchuriki

thanks,forgot That Yagura just dominated 4 tails it wasn't a symbiotic relationship

Arthurity1:

As we all know, the sharingan can see into a jinchuriki's psyche allowing them to meet the bijuu face to face. And the way a perfect jinchuriki escapes genjutsu is by being injected chakra directly from the bijuu. If you put the bijuu under genjutsu first, there would be no way for chakra to get injected into the jinchuriki hence allowing the said individual to enter a perfect genjutsu.
Putting both bijuu and jinchuriki under genjutsu.

I ain't doubting your theory but have you seen it done on Canon

simonjassy:
so a clan that was planning how to kill the hokage and install their own,would be done in easily through sleep.People with such plans will never be caught "asleep" of all ways.it is just like saying boko haram were caught asleep by the military,aren't their patrols,these people knew of the anbu and would have taken great care to make sure they themselves are protected.

Well, they were caught asleep.

typicalgamer:


I ain't doubting your theory but have you seen it done on Canon

My only proof is yagura karatachi.

Arthurity1:

It's not a big if... It's most likely to happen. I don't see why itachi would only burn one hand or one leg and spare the rest of the body

hmm,because He Would Also Be Risking His Life.Too.
Please don't bring the itachi vs orochimaru fight here as we all know orochimaru was never serious with it and he already had a way out.

Omo see the parallels between the key visual of the first and Last season. This time its "Attack on Eren"

simonjassy:
yeah, I am just pointing that out.Itachi is great and all but his chakra reserve is low.what is most annoying is how his fans think he can beat madara and hashirama,such disrespect.

As For Tsukuyomi,we Have heard itachi say that only one who shares the bloodline can disperse it,but also we have heard how perfect jinchurikis can't be put under genjutsu.Which bringr us back to how the Bleep obito was able to put yagura under genjutsu.kishimoto ehn.

during Madara and Hashirama time they where so many dangerous shinobi across the land but nobody dare comes close in terms of anything against Madara and Hashirama

anything Itachi would pull of Madara has seen and done it before

so

IMAGINE it took Naruto out of 5 hokage to surpass Hashirama

then only reason why people agree Naruto surpass Hashirama is that Naruto did manage to achieve peace something Hashirama with all his gifts cant

and I'll still not say he'll beat Hashirama self

sassuke case I'll never say he's stronger than Madara

Itachi doesn't scale Among those guys abeg in terms of intellect of battle prowse

no version of Itachi comes close to hashi or madara

simonjassy:
hmm,because He Would Also Be Risking His Life.Too.
Please don't bring the itachi vs orochimaru fight here as we all know orochimaru was never serious with it and he already had a way out.

orochimaru has a big weakness against genjutsu

and the Uchiha know how to get am well

Arthurity1:
My only proof is yagura karatachi.

that guy ain't perfect in my books

Arthurity1:

Well, they were caught asleep.

fact that only fugaku Uchiha is the only one with mangekyo shows how not Battle ready the Uchiha were at the time

if the Uchiha manage to have 5 or more mangekyo users I don't think danzo would dare to challenge them.

Itachi saw they have nothing to offer ghost of their former glory

and obito op eye made it alot easier

MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAD


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3xv7Z0nKDQ

Lightangel65:


CBR ratings are rated by sick American fans

And
1) i never said jiraya won against orichimaru in their youth, read my comment again i even said he was weeker in his youth Don't missquote me.
I said in their prime jiraya will win, and in their prime jiraya didn't use sage mode against orichimaru, if he had orichimaru will loose, i also said the only way orichimaru will win will be if he uses edo tensei(so read my comments and don't missquote me)
2)and sasuke vs itachi the sasuke kept running, instead of blocking his line of sight with a jistu. If he is using amaterasu and is blocked by mud wall, or fire style, he will loose his sight on that person, like naruto did in their last fight he used nine tail chakra to block sasukes line of sight, and how gaara blocked it with sand when sasuke used it on him during the kage summit.
And if you google too read up amaterasu on the wikia page, you would find out it burns slowly, in that fight the amaterasu caught on sasukes wings, thats why he shed them, not because it was burning fast, it burns slow but he had to rid it off to prevent spreading, and if it burnt so fast why didn't it affect his other body parts, and when he used it on a blind mandara, mandara simply took off his armor how come it didn't burn mandara, even the sand ninjas during his fight with gara, kankuro just took off their amour. and only kabuto and orichimaru can shed their bodies sasuke can google it.
Check the wiki page, you will see al you need to know about amaterasu, do your research instead of making clameless facts.
3) and thirdly yata mirror can deflect all jistu, but don't forget the toads fight with knives and yata mirror is useless against taijistu cause it only reflects all nature transformations, ying and yang release, and even if they use fire style it would undo the summoning on only the toad that casted it, when jiraya can summon more than 10 toads(fact). And how would he use yata mirror against an army of frogs, and based on smart play, yes itachi is very smart, but tell me how he can fight about 5-10 toads and sage mode jiraya all together, without running out of chakra,

And let me clarify sage mode resistance to genjistu.
As jiraya explained to naruto.
Genjistu can only work on a sage user if the caster is also a sage user. During sage mode, the user has his chakra, and nature chakra, genjistu takes control over the victims normal chakra, but if the caster isnt a sage mode user, the victim breaks out cause his sage chakra is also not under control.
And for high level genjistu, jiraya in his sage mode said if he was placed in a genjistu, the frogs in his shoulder, will break him out.

Google it

1. This is what you said. Maybe I don't understand English or there is another interpretation. Next time understand what you say.

Don't forget jiraya also fought orichimaru many times without even using sage mode yet orichimaru didn't win a single one.

2. Sasuke shed his whole body, not his wings. After he absorbed Orochimaru, he was able to get the body shedding jutsu. Though he later lost the ability when Itachi removed the curse mark. In that scene, Sasuke was shouting and in pain and he crumbled to the floor. After using Chidori to open the floor, he did the body shedding jutsu and slipped inside. That's why I said it depends on how the user can manipulate it. During the Sasuke and Naruto fight, Sasuke was able to warp Amaterasu into sharp spears that destroyed Naruto's clones in one shot. He called it Honoikazuchi or something like that. Amaterasu burns slowly, yes, but just like normal fire jutsu, the intensity can be higher and it can be freely manipulated.
3. You guys talk about summoning like it is a normal jutsu. It drains chakra faster than normal jutsu. If the user is low on chakra, he/she cannot summon anything, or he will summon smaller animals. How many times have you seen Jiraiya summon more than 3 big toads? And those small clownish ones that will be giving fight commentary. What's this talk of up to 10? And you do know that Old toads that will help him enter Sage Mode will also be summoned right? Whether they fight with knives or toad oil, Itachi can summon hundreds of crows which can also block their line of sight. And the bigger they are, the easier to take down. I hope you also know that summonings can be caught in genjutsu, but it is pretty useless to use since the summoner can easily break it if he/she can. My point is, for every attack, there is a defense or a counterattack. That's how amazing Itachi is.
4. I now understand your point on genjutsu. Nevertheless, there is not one single person that fully understands the limits of Itachi's power. Do you think he became a jounin at 10 because he was a walkover? Not to mention that he can predict attacks. You guys really underestimate him a lot.

Hey you Naruto Extremist Group are spamming the whole place; I wonder why antispam no dey see well well to block ALL of you unna sharp sharp.Useless antispam--Naruto Fanatic! Abeg ee don do oooo. Let other ppl discuss other things!!!!

simonjassy:
actually,a Tail Beast cloak works well against amaterasu as shown by naruto.I have had this discussion several times on the naruto fandom wikia.

Yes tailed beast cloak is pure chakra, and kishimoto said amaterasu cant burn through chakra, thets why it didn't work on naruto, so it also wont work on bee

typicalgamer:


stop spoiling na

Sorry sir

Lightangel65:


Sorry sir

no p my man

Arthurity1:

First things first orochimaru is way more powerful than jiraya.
Second, there is no place in naruto was it mentioned that sages are immune to genjutsu... None! If sages are immune to genjutsu, why then is it possible for sage animals to enter genjutsu?

Huh orichimaru is stronger than normal jiraya not sage mode jiraya, that is what an arguing about.
And read the wiki sage users are resistant to genjistu, i even explained it, genjistu is only fatal to sage users if the caster is a sage user also, or its a complicated genjistu like izanagi. In kabuto vs itachi and sasuke, kabuto broke through itachi's tsukuyomi in seconds and cut itachi into half. Genjistu can work, but they are resistant
And also, jiraya said the two toads that were on his shoulders would disrupt his chakre if he was out in genjistu

Arthurity1:

If jiraya's method of countering amateratsu is that slow AF method, then he will die embarrassingly. And please what stops itachi from burning the toads with amateratsu? Jiraya is not fast enough or have any counters for Itachi

Amaterasu burns fairly slowly as stated on the wiki page, just that it cant go off, thats why raikage cut off his arm. Jiraya has sealed it before, and still can, he will seal it before it can even kill him.
Stop saying rubbish now, can itachi even think of being faster than a sage mode user, if jiraya is in sage mode he is faster and stronger than itachi by far.
Yes itachi can burn the toads and reverse the summoning, but can he burn all of em, if jiraya summons multiple toads, and you know how amaterasu takes a toll on him. And also he would just be burning the toads and jiraya will be watching him?

lordtim001:

1. This is what you said. Maybe I don't understand English or there is another interpretation. Next time understand what you say.

2. Sasuke shed his whole body, not his wings. After he absorbed Orochimaru, he was able to get the body shedding jutsu. Though he later lost the ability when Itachi removed the curse mark. In that scene, Sasuke was shouting and in pain and he crumbled to the floor. After using Chidori to open the floor, he did the body shedding jutsu and slipped inside. That's why I said it depends on how the user can manipulate it. During the Sasuke and Naruto fight, Sasuke was able to warp Amaterasu into sharp spears that destroyed Naruto's clones in one shot. He called it Honoikazuchi or something like that. Amaterasu burns slowly, yes, but just like normal fire jutsu, the intensity can be higher and it can be freely manipulated.
3. You guys talk about summoning like it is a normal jutsu. It drains chakra faster than normal jutsu. If the user is low on chakra, he/she cannot summon anything, or he will summon smaller animals. How many times have you seen Jiraiya summon more than 3 big toads? And those small clownish ones that will be giving fight commentary. What's this talk of up to 10? And you do know that Old toads that will help him enter Sage Mode will also be summoned right? Whether they fight with knives or toad oil, Itachi can summon hundreds of crows which can also block their line of sight. And the bigger they are, the easier to take down. I hope you also know that summonings can be caught in genjutsu, but it is pretty useless to use since the summoner can easily break it if he/she can. My point is, for every attack, there is a defense or a counterattack. That's how amazing Itachi is.
4. I now understand your point on genjutsu. Nevertheless, there is not one single person that fully understands the limits of Itachi's power. Do you think he became a jounin at 10 because he was a walkover? Not to mention that he can predict attacks. You guys really underestimate him a lot.

Did you watch naruto? If you did you will know only sasuke can shape his amaterasu (scorch release)

1) itachis sharingan abilities were
A) right eye casts amaterasu
B) left eye casts tsukuyomi
2) sasukes sharingan abilities were
A) right eye casts amaterasu
B) left eyes can shapen his amaterasu
to spikes or cloak objects with it.


2) and as for summoning, A user of sage mode has nothing to worry about chakra, as they use nature energy, and the toads on his shoulders mould the sage chakra for him, he even said it in his fight with pein.


3) all itachis abilities were listed out his only drawback was he was sick. And tell me how well itachi witt do against six paths of pein and konan, they will murder him. Itachi is not even suited to face a crowd.
And itachi is a great guy i admit but he has his limit, if not for izanami, him and sasuke were fighting a loosing battle against kabuto. If sasuke wasn't there kabuto would have trashed him. And as an edo tensei he was at his full potential cause edo tensei never run out of chakra, and he wasn't sick in that fight.

Jiraya wad the one that died before we could see more of him

I just started dororo beautifully made anime but the sound track is turning me off