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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Inteltower: 12:21pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


Nigeria is offering 13% Resource control Biafra can offer 100% Resource control but with each region contributing Taxes and Revenue to the central Government

Biafra can offer Loose Confederation meaning each ethnic group will truly become independent for the first time in over 100 years . Regions will be created along tribal line in Biafra e.g In River Ikwerre people will have Ikwerre State and Ijaw people Izon State , Ibibio will have Ibibio State 100% Resource control

A loose confederation , there will be no president in Biafra But Prime Minister which the winning party can only form by coalition e.g you will need 70 per cent win to form Biafra Government appointing Prime minister will be entirely a party Affair not a General election so no fear of Igbo Domination but Biafra will run maximum of 3 - 4 party state

Getting all of them onboard is not possible but you need majority of them to support Biafra it atleast be sympathetic to Biafra .

No matter how much we dislike this fact the BLOOD OF NIGERIA LIES UNDER THEIR FEET the Oil . it was under Eastern Region but the smart Northern Politician make sure the carved them into smaller states and give them 13% resource control . Biafra must offer more


I love this Strategy bro..really tactical

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Okoroawusa: 12:23pm On May 29, 2020
You are not saying anything new.

Intelligent people have been shouting it from the roof top....


NNAMDI KANU IS A SCAMMER!!!

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 12:23pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


Its hard but not impossible if its the only wat to achieve Biafra . you dont expect freedom fighting to be easy every body would have been free

No offer is better than giving them 100% Resource Control to prove that their oil is not the factor pushing for Biafra

Then run Biafra Government on Parliamentary system so it won't have president but a Prime Minister appointed by the Ruling party or coalition Government it run only 3-4 party state
Since its a parliamentary Government an Efik can be the Prime Minister of Biafra if his party win majority seat and appoint him this will remove fear of Igbo dominating Biafra politics like we arw seeing in Nigeria today

Giving them 100% resource control on paper is like me giving you $5 million dollars in a game of monopoly.

You have to pay upfront and then hope you can unite the stakeholders for your cause and still have to fulfil the 100%

You are a businessman. Please be real and leave emotions aside

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:29pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Giving them 100% resource control on paper is like me giving you $5 million dollars in a game of monopoly.

You have to pay upfront and then hope you can unite the stakeholders for your cause and still have to fulfil the 100%

You are a businessman. Please be real and leave emotions aside

But 100% resource control means everybody have 100% Control over any mineral discover in your land be it oil, gold ,coal , zince etc how will you pay upfront ?

100% control is for the whole Biafra not only Niger Delta , Enugu State will have 100% control of coal discover in their state etc

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:32pm On May 29, 2020
Biafra capital will have to be an entirely new city created from Jungle and forest . the very centre of Biafra will become the capital of Biafra even if its in the middle of ocean or forest it will be developed into a small capital city

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 12:35pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


But 100% resource control means everybody have 100% Control over any mineral discover in your land be it oil, gold ,coal , zince etc how will you pay upfront ?

100% control is for the whole Biafra not only Niger Delta , Enugu State will have 100% control of coal discover in their state etc

Hypothetical situation

You, Etim, are in your shop making a cool $100,000 USD a month in real cold cash. I come and meet you and inform you that I promise you IOU of 100% of what you should be making but you'll have to risk losing the steady $100,000 a month you are making and join me in this fight.

I go and make promises to Efe, Oghene, Bassey etc. All to forfeit their real income for a promise of gold with the risk of losing their livelihoods

All of them are not even on the same page with themselves nor are they on the same page with you.

Seriously? Are you a magician?

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by rdokoye: 12:37pm On May 29, 2020
To use violence to achieve a political goal is called terrorism. So you're advocating that IPOB become a terrorist organisation?

If IPOB started bombing oil installations it'd lose its international support. Moreover there are no provisions whatsoever for succession in the Nigerian constitution. It's ILLEGAL to form a party for the sole objective of breaking away from the country.

Thus, there is no official way of achieving Biafra. Nigeria has been designed to be unbreakable. A prison for all those that live within it. The only way to achieve Biafra is either through civil disobedience or the total economic collapse of Nigeria - which is where the country is currently heading, thanks to this administration.

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:42pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Hypothetical situation

You, Etim, are in your shop making a cool $100,000 USD a month in real cold cash. I come and meet you and inform you that I promise you IOU of 100% of what you should be making but you'll have to risk losing the steady $100,000 a month you are making and join me in this fight.

I go and make promises to Efe, Oghene, Bassey etc. All to forfeit their real income for a promise of gold with the risk of losing their livelihoods

All of them are not even on the same page with themselves nor are they on the same page with you.

Seriously? Are you a magician?

you need a New Generation Niger Delta youths onboard . none of their political class will support ofcourse even Igbo Politicians will not support Biafra they are comfortable but this people sharing our collective wealth are less than 1%

You need the Mass the people like me and you poor and struggling not people already benefiting . the politician are enemy of change as far as the current system is favouring them they will fight against it

Whether South West , North , South East , Niger Delta politician are all the same and will never support a break up for an unknown future

So when I say Niger delta i'm not talking about the political class but the New Generation Leader on the street struggling now

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 12:45pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:
you need a New Generation Niger Delta youths onboard . none of their political class will support ofcourse even Igbo Politicians will not support Biafra they are comfortable but this people sharing our collective wealth are less than 1%

You need the Mass the people like me and you poor and struggling not people already benefiting . the politician are enemy of change as far as the current system is favouring them they will fight against it

Whether South West , North , South East , Niger Delta politician are all the same and will never support a break up for an unknown future

So when I say Niger delta i'm not talking about the political class but the New Generation Leader on the street struggling now

If you really can't get political leadership, thought leadership, civic leadership, traditional leadership, opinion leadership and social leadership onboard within core Igbo land.

Then why do you think you can get anybody else involved?

You just don't speak these things into existence.


Another question that begs an answer. What and where is your leverage?
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:45pm On May 29, 2020
rdokoye:
To use violence to achieve a political goal is called terrorism. So you're advocating that IPOB become a terrorist organisation?

If IPOB started bombing oil installations it'd lose its international support. Moreover there are no provisions whatsoever for succession in the Nigerian constitution. It's ILLEGAL to form a party for the sole objective of breaking away from the country.

Thus, there is no official way of achieving Biafra. Nigeria has been designed to be unbreakable. A prison for all those that live within it. The only way to achieve Biafra is either through civil disobedience or the total economic collapse of Nigeria - which is where the country is currently heading, thanks to this administration.


IPOB will need to create a separate group with a different name within and under IPOB command since they are know as non violence e.g Biafra Liberation Force , Biafra Freedom Fighters ( BFF) etc and its not terrorism they are not after bombing and killing people not even police rather its called an ECONOMIC WARFARE and they world does not care about Africa but their interest if Shell BP etc see Nigeria have lost control they will be force to renegotiate with Biafra or loss their investment to Russia or another interested party its very simple

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:49pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


If you really can't get political leadership, thought leadership, civic leadership, traditional leadership, opinion leadership and social leadership onboard within core Igbo land.

Then why do you think you can get anybody else involved?

You just don't speak these things into existence.


Another question that begs an answer. What and where is your leverage?

Biafra will never be achieve if you are waiting to get support of Political leaders , religious leaders etc and traditional leaders

The practical thing is to create a new Leadership its a Revolution not a family gathering of elders as far as you get majority of the youths into the Movement those political leaders will be force into exile with their family . we Need the people not the ruling class

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 12:51pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


Biafra will never be achieve if you are waiting to get support of Political leaders , religious leaders etc and traditional leaders

The practical thing is to create a new Leadership its a Revolution not a family gathering of elders as far as you get majority of the youths into the Movement those political leaders will be force into exile with their family . we Need the people not the ruling class

You've already created a new leader in Kanu. What exactly has it gotten you? If anything, it's made the situation worse
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 12:55pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


You've already created a new leader in Kanu. What exactly has it gotten you? If anything, it's made the situation worse

No KANU is the only person capable of achieving Biafra among all the people that are leading it now but he need to work a little more on strategy

He just need to create another Militia under IPOB but seems to be working separately because he have already give the impression of peaceful

Let him Give only one single order and they leadership in Igbo land will go on force exile ...

KANU have the passion for Biafra but he need intelligent advisers to help on strategy and planning
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 12:59pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


No KANU is the only person capable of achieving Biafra among all the people that are leading it now but he need to work a little more on strategy

He just need to create another Militia under IPOB but seems to be working separately because he have already give the impression of peaceful

Let him Give only one single order and they leadership in Igbo land will go on force exile ...

KANU have the passion for Biafra but he need intelligent advisers to help on strategy and planning

You are back to where you are. An untenable situation

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by nku5: 1:02pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:

Igbos should focus more on using our population spread across Nigeria to gain strong political hold in Nigeria


Your population spread is worthless since APC introduced the tactic of intimidating Igbo voters like the threats of drowning in the lagoon, deploying thugs like Mc Oluomo the Menthol to attack Igbo women going to vote in many parts of Lagos. Jimi Agbaje who was a great candidate lost simply because he was friendly with igbos. Do you know the history of Nigeria at all? Please go and study the first republic

Don't be naïve

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by PeterUdeme: 1:06pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Hypothetical situation

You, Etim, are in your shop making a cool $100,000 USD a month in real cold cash. I come and meet you and inform you that I promise you IOU of 100% of what you should be making but you'll have to risk losing the steady $100,000 a month you are making and join me in this fight.

I go and make promises to Efe, Oghene, Bassey etc. All to forfeit their real income for a promise of gold with the risk of losing their livelihoods

All of them are not even on the same page with themselves nor are they on the same page with you.

Seriously? Are you a magician?


The guy doesn’t understand your simple analogy. He wants them to risk what they are getting for a promise that could be upturned after achieving Biafra.

Remember Nigeria was given to us as a federation by the British until igbos made us a unitary system. What is the assurance that another Igbo man will not discard the agreement in Biafra with another Igbo agenda?

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 1:07pm On May 29, 2020
nku5:


Your population spread is worthless since APC introduced the tactic of intimidating Igbo voters like the threats of drowning in the lagoon, deploying thugs like Mc Oluomo the Menthol to attack Igbo women going to vote in many parts of Lagos etc

Don't be naïve

Yes if we cannot get Biafra then we have to make it work politically .

If we want Biafra we can get it in record 6 months by engaging in an Economic Oil war with Nigeria but you need support of majority of Niger Deltans for this to work not the political leaders but the people of Niger Delta

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by PeterUdeme: 1:10pm On May 29, 2020
rdokoye:
To use violence to achieve a political goal is called terrorism. So you're advocating that IPOB become a terrorist organisation?

If IPOB started bombing oil installations it'd lose its international support. Moreover there are no provisions whatsoever for succession in the Nigerian constitution. It's ILLEGAL to form a party for the sole objective of breaking away from the country.

Thus, there is no official way of achieving Biafra. Nigeria has been designed to be unbreakable. A prison for all those that live within it. The only way to achieve Biafra is either through civil disobedience or the total economic collapse of Nigeria - which is where the country is currently heading, thanks to this administration.

If they can carry ijaw along, they can negotiate with foreign powers like France and Russia using their oil wells as a promise. Those countries can supply them weapons and fight their battle for them. Biafra is achievable but kanu is a hate filled, tribal supremacy Buffon who have made all the ethnic groups that would have support him his enemy. His mission is failed already. Let him keep entertaining them with jubril and how Osinbajo has been killed.

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by omonnakoda: 1:10pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:
I'm an Igbo man from Anambra but I don't support Biafra and Nnamdi KANU IPOB in particular because of lacking simple and basic strategy maybe as a Business man based in Onitsha and I also have BSc Political Science from IMO State University so i'm not just an illiterate Business man in Onitsha

I do not support Biafra because I hate Biafra !! No every Igbo man have the soft spot for Biafra at this our current Generation all our dad fought in the war my own inclusively from Child hood we hear tails and story my dad was a machine gunner in the Biafra war and he was part of the Mid west invasion to Lagos and also fought at ikot ekpene Sector but as a business man I cannot support this current struggle because its not practical its a very bad business decision that will fail I do buying and selling our head thinks like clock 24/7 calculating opportunity so I can smell bad market from 2 miles away

Igbos should focus more on using our population spread across Nigeria to gain strong political hold in Nigeria

Nnamdi KANU lack strategy but he is very good orator and Historian but this will not give us Biafra it will be talk talk and talk without practical action .

I don't like Ijaw people but there is only one strategy that can break Nigeria not war , not guerrilla war , not peaceful agitation its only an ECONOMIC OIL WAR IN THE CREEK OF NIGER DELTA that can break Nigeria

If you doubt me boko haram are well armed and fighting Nigeria using Guerilla tactics since 10 years where is there Islamic Caliphate ? grin

Massob of Uwazuruike have been agitating peaceful since 20 years now I remember I was in primary school when massob started around 1999 /2000 today I have married and have kids and we still dey struggle this peaceful Biafra

War cannot give Biafra because Ojukwu tried it and failed in 1967 , another war will lead to more failure because even Ojukwu have an advantage of a united Eastern Region forces to call upon which does not exist today

Fast forward to IPOB and Nnamdi KANU since 2012 he formed IPOB I cannot even pin point his strategy to get Biafra one moment he is making threat as if he want a violent war next moment he is shouting IPOB is a peaceful group .

so I think Nnamdi KANU strategy is to get Biafra through Mass and Civil Revolt where he provoke people to take laws into there hand and troop to the street to start fighting the Government this his method will be bloody it will lead to a lot of civilian dead and yet cannot get Biafra unless the whole Nigeria join in a Revolt like what #Revolutionnow aspired to achieve this is the only way million of Nigeria protesting and fighting the police and soldier once it will be bloody but fairly successful like Libya ,and Arab Springs etc this method will not work in Nigeria because we are too divided along tribal line and religion to be united for a Nigeria Spring

So only the Niger Delta can divide Nigeria today until the north discover oil and build refinery then Nigeria will remain united for ever until the north Decide to share their oil money alone and break out of Nigeria for AREWA REPUBLIC at that point no tribe in Nigeria can even be strong enough to fight them to stay


Only the Niger Delta can break Nigeria currently because its only an ECONOMIC OIL WAR and reducing Oil production to Zero in a country that depend on oil revenue , oil is money and money is blood of a country cut it off the country will bleed to dead in just 1 year
so is this a strategy or another dream?


What has oil economic war got to do WITH ACHIEVING BIAFRA
Even if your assumption is right it will work for an independent Niger Delta not an Igbo Biafra

You have not said WHY they should do this anyway

What we want to hear is what Ibos going to do to achieve Biafra

Not what you hope or wish OTHERS WILL DO

What can you do?

It is just as fanciful as all that Israel nonsense
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by PeterUdeme: 1:12pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:
you need a New Generation Niger Delta youths onboard . none of their political class will support ofcourse even Igbo Politicians will not support Biafra they are comfortable but this people sharing our collective wealth are less than 1%

You need the Mass the people like me and you poor and struggling not people already benefiting . the politician are enemy of change as far as the current system is favouring them they will fight against it

Whether South West , North , South East , Niger Delta politician are all the same and will never support a break up for an unknown future

So when I say Niger delta i'm not talking about the political class but the New Generation Leader on the street struggling now
But majority ipob members do not understand this. They believe Yoruba is their enemy without understanding that their own elites are against Biafra just like all the elites in Nigeria are against the break up, thus creating many enemies for themselves.

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 1:14pm On May 29, 2020
omonnakoda:
so is this a strategy or another dream?


What has oil economic war got to do WITH ACHIEVING BIAFRA
Even if your assumption is right it will work for an independent Niger Delta not an Igbo Biafra

You have not said WHY they should do this anyway

What we want to hear is what Ibos going to do to achieve Biafra

Not what you hope or wish OTHERS WILL DO

What can you do?

It is just as fanciful as all that Israel nonsense

Exactly. If this simplistic approach can work, then why does Niger Delta need Igbos when they can get their own country for themselves?
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 1:14pm On May 29, 2020
PeterUdeme:


The guy doesn’t understand your simple analogy. He wants them to risk what they are getting for a promise that could be upturned after achieving Biafra.

Remember Nigeria was given to us as a federation by the British until igbos made us a unitary system. What is the assurance that another Igbo man will not discard the agreement in Biafra with another Igbo agenda?

Its for the Igbos to convince them if we really need Biafra but if we cannot then its to face our destiny in Nigeria and try to establish Political Relevance

There is no guarantee it have to be about building trust making it 100% resource control in Biafra Constitution , Have state Police force only , an Igbo man cannot be a police in Ijaw land , or Efik land every state create their police with the aborigines but Biafra will have Single Military joint force

Abolish office of the President in Biafra and have only a prime minister to be appointed by the ruling party or coalition parties . if we cannot convince even 50% of our Niger Delta Brothers to join us then we just forget Biafra because it will never come until the North Discover Oil and Break out of Nigeria after the finish using Niger Delta oil its the sad reality

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by PeterUdeme: 1:18pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Exactly. If this simplistic approach can work, then why does Niger Delta need Igbos when they can get their own country for themselves?

Igbos know they can’t achieve Biafra without the Niger delta. Ojukwu lost the war when the Nigerian government captured the Niger delta. That’s why you always here SS/SE from ipob clowns. They can’t do it alone.

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by PeterUdeme: 1:20pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:


Its for the Igbos to convince them if we really need Biafra but if we cannot then its to face our destiny in Nigeria and try to establish Political Relevance

There is no guarantee it have to be about building trust making it 100% resource control in Biafra Constitution , Have state Police force only , an Igbo man cannot be a police in Ijaw land , or Efik land every state create their police with the aborigines but Biafra will have Single Military joint force

Abolish office of the President in Biafra and have only a prime minister to be appointed by the ruling party or coalition parties . if we cannot convince even 50% of our Niger Delta Brothers to join us then we just forget Biafra because it will never come until the North Discover Oil and Break out of Nigeria after the finish using Niger Delta oil its the sad reality

These are the usual promises promised by the politicians. What do they do after election? Didn’t APC promise restructuring? Why do you think Igbos would be different?
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 1:21pm On May 29, 2020
omonnakoda:
so is this a strategy or another dream?


What has oil economic war got to do WITH ACHIEVING BIAFRA
Even if your assumption is right it will work for an independent Niger Delta not an Igbo Biafra

You have not said WHY they should do this anyway

What we want to hear is what Ibos going to do to achieve Biafra

Not what you hope or wish OTHERS WILL DO

What can you do?

It is just as fanciful as all that Israel nonsense

Economic oil war because Nigeria depend on oil to survive if you cut the supply yo zero for even 6 months recession will follow , Nigeria cannot even pay the soldiers or buy weapons its like sucking blood out of a person its slow and painful dead


Niger Delta need the igbos and the igbos need the Niger Delta to achieve freedom from Nigeria if the so desire


If the Declare Niger Delta alone and attack oil installation their land mass and population is very small to face Nigeria .

Government will simply deploy 3 Division of Soldiers ( 30,000 Soldiers ) to every corner of Niger Delta and crush them within days but united as a Biafra it will be impossible to cover the whole areas or know where to defend

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 1:21pm On May 29, 2020
PeterUdeme:


Igbos know they can’t achieve Biafra without the Niger delta. Ojukwu lost the war when the Nigerian government captured the Niger delta. That’s why you always here SS/SE from ipob clowns. They can’t do it alone.

Yup. And if the Niger Delta can go it alone. They don't need Igbos in it.

That's why I asked earlier. What's the Igbo leverage?
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 1:23pm On May 29, 2020
PeterUdeme:


These are the usual promises promised by the politicians. What do they do after election? Didn’t APC promise restructuring? Why do you think Igbos would be different?

I dont know what the igbos will do different this post is not to lobby or convince them its my personal reason for not supporting Biafra current agitation because its a wrong approach and will never come unless tactics is change to what i'm writing above
Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by Whiteangel1234: 1:26pm On May 29, 2020
kayfra:


Yup. And if the Niger Delta can go it alone. They don't need Igbos in it.

That's why I asked earlier. What's the Igbo leverage?
Niger Delta is too small in human and land mass to declare a break away without the support of another major tribe in Nigeria . Nigeria troop will deploy over 50,000 soldiers and cover every single inch of the ground in Niger Delta and crush them in matter of days

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Re: Why I'm Against Nnamdi KANU And Biafra Agitation By An Igbo Man by kayfra: 1:29pm On May 29, 2020
Whiteangel1234:
Niger Delta is too small in human and land mass to declare a break away without the support of another major tribe in Nigeria . Nigeria troop will deploy over 50,000 soldiers and cover every single inch of the ground in Niger Delta and crush them in matter of days

Statistics and Geography doesn't indicate that. They have a way bigger land mass than the SE and huge population size roughly 20-30 million. So if economic blockade from them helps them get Niger Delta republic, they really have no need to include the SE states in it.

And also, land mass and population has not been a determinant of countries even though Niger Delta is more populated than most European countries.

There's nothing in it for them based on your strategy

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