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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:34pm On May 29, 2020
What is included or excluded was long covered by UN Stats office. Everyone pretty much follows the International Standard Industrial Classification of All Economic Activities (ISIC). And we are now on Rev4. So statisticians basically measures GDP without reference to economist - because it simply counting and find market prices.
TayserMahri:


Not relevant at all...you could as well keep asking more whys after I respond to the first why.

As you were told a gazillion times, the calculations are statistical wink That was the bone of contention. You couldn't prove otherwise. Actually, overall, GDP has more statistics in it that Economics. Data collection, preparation, input, processing, analysis, and compiling is purely statistics...economists only interpret results and determine what goods/services to include. Go ahead and ask another why...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:35pm On May 29, 2020
gallivant:


That's fair I suppose. Seems like we reached a consensus, Nigerians don't have a clue. Right? grin
As you know by now a got no beef with Kenya, Nigeria, Ghana, Tanzania ect ect ect.

I just call it as I see it wink, won't be long before I'm back debating our Nigerian friends wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:37pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
What is included or excluded was long covered by UN Stats office. Everyone pretty much follows the International Standard Industrial Classification of All Economic Activities (ISIC). And we are now on Rev4. So statisticians basically measures GDP without reference to economist - because it simply counting and find market prices.
Who came up with the ISIC?? Statisticians or economists? grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by QuietMynd: 12:49pm On May 29, 2020
Kano airport

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by QuietMynd: 12:50pm On May 29, 2020
Amni tower
Eko Atlantic

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:52pm On May 29, 2020
jl115:

I wasn't arguing that GDP wasn't statistical in nature, your boy claimed it wasn't economics at all, and that it wasn't calculated by economist but only by statisticians.

GDP is economics.... And you study it in Economics and its calculated by economists EOD wink

Lying again wink ...post a screenshot where he said that. What he was saying, and I recall pretty well, was that you dont need to be an economist to deconstruct GDP...most of you are pretty mad that a Kenyan software engineer can dissect your fake GDPs with such precision.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:02pm On May 29, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 1:06pm On May 29, 2020
TayserMahri:


Lying again wink ...post a screenshot where he said that. What he was saying, and I recall pretty well, was that you dont need to be an economist to deconstruct GDP...most of you are pretty mad that a Kenyan software engineer can dissect your fake GDPs with such precision.
Not he they.... wink and they were saying gdp isn't economics!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:12pm On May 29, 2020
jl115:

Not he they.... wink and they were saying gdp isn't economics!!
know how to counter your ignorant counterpart.,
It's such an irony when a student tells his lecturer to learn basic staffs when he can't withstand hard staffs himself cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 1:17pm On May 29, 2020
gallivant:


That's a natural animal instict, fight-or-flight. In humans we pray when faced with an acute crisis. The most chaotic countries and people in crisis are the most religious. Africa,India, Arabia etc. You will find religion diminishes with the good social wellbeing/education of any nation. If you want to end droughts stop cutting trees, you can pray all Sunday and Friday but the rains won't come. To make a long story short you can actually draw pararrels between religious piety and the lack of education.
Dumb atheist .when study shows religion increase more social interaction and satisfaction in all human endeavour. Which lead to better grades in school , healthy life and fulfilment of purpose. ...


Heaven help who help themselves. Don't blame prayer for your stupidity but your laziness

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 1:31pm On May 29, 2020
Shma:
GDP definition and how it applies is what can be found in economics, yes and statistics as well.
If you need an explanation on how gdp data was calcated, a startician can do that well, and hence. Economist should have statistics knowledge to blend it with economic staffs
You should know that a GDP is a key measure within a wider framework of economic statistics which is often simply referred to as national accounts.

OK and? I never denied Economics not being statistical in nature infact if you studied economics you would have had statistics as a subject...

However this was never my argument... Your bros claimed GDP wasn't economics at all!! That is what I was debating
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 1:37pm On May 29, 2020
gallivant:


That's a natural animal instict, fight-or-flight. In humans we pray when faced with an acute crisis. The most chaotic countries and people in crisis are the most religious. Africa,India, Arabia etc. You will find religion diminishes with the good social wellbeing/education of any nation. If you want to end droughts stop cutting trees, you can pray all Sunday and Friday but the rains won't come. To make a long story short you can actually draw pararrels between religious piety and the lack of education.
mostly yes but not always countries like Singapore, UAE, Saudi Arabia and the US are religious yet very well developed and have great education systems
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:52pm On May 29, 2020
jl115:
mostly yes but not always countries like Singapore, UAE, Saudi Arabia and the US are religious yet very well developed and have great education systems

UAE and Saudi Arabia might be swimming in oil but their society is still operating on medieval laws. Very bad examples.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 1:55pm On May 29, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:23pm On May 29, 2020
Unlike you who knows nothing really about GDP and thinks it's a magic number. I have worked with National Statistics offices in matter data and I know what they do and what they don't do. The first time I was in Rwanda in 2010 - I went there to rollout US's csPRO software - funded by OECD and WB. I later participated in many Africa countries' metadata standardization for National Statistics. I spent two weeks in Kigali building data collection forms for calculation of GDP aka National Accounts, household data and many things. I never met any economist while I was theresmiley
jl115:

Not he they.... wink and they were saying gdp isn't economics!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by hopefulLandlord: 2:24pm On May 29, 2020
vaxx:
The atheist is not to be taken seriously Particularly Africa one, they are only atheist because they lack a real crisis. When they are faced with a real crisis, they will instinctually look for Deity again. That's why i don't have to encourage them on social media to find deity; the chaos of life will force them back to it naturally.

This doesn't sound intelligent and I'm disappointed it's coming from you

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:29pm On May 29, 2020
GDP is the statistics of the economy. The keyword is statistics. Now as an accountant - you learn economics - just like I also learned economic 101 as a CS major. But btw an economist and a statistician - the statistician comes up with GDP - and the economist ANALYSE GDP.

Collection and coming up of GDP is the work of Statistician. The interpretation of GDP figures is the work of an economist - who then design economic policies.

Most statisticians work in Planning and Stats office that come up with GDP figures.

Most economists work in the Treasury who come up with economic policies - tax, fiscal, monetary, labor, name it.

jl115:

OK and? I never denied Economics not being statistical in nature infact if you studied economics you would have had statistics as a subject...

However this was never my argument... Your bros claimed GDP wasn't economics at all!! That is what I was debating

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 2:32pm On May 29, 2020
hopefulLandlord:


This doesn't sound intelligent and I'm disappointed it's coming from you
you find me come here ...... you should remember our discussion on that thread ..... No Athiest in foxhole......i even go further no atheist during robbery time
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 2:44pm On May 29, 2020
gallivant:


UAE and Saudi Arabia might be swimming in oil but their society is still operating on medieval laws. Very bad examples.
might be medieval to you but in terms of HDI, per capita wealth ect ect they are doing very very well
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 2:47pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Unlike you who knows nothing really about GDP and thinks it's a magic number. I have worked with National Statistics offices in matter data and I know what they do and what they don't do. The first time I was in Rwanda in 2010 - I went there to rollout US's csPRO software - funded by OECD and WB. I later participated in many Africa countries' metadata standardization for National Statistics. I spent two weeks in Kigali building data collection forms for calculation of GDP aka National Accounts, household data and many things. I never met any economist while I was theresmiley
Cool story bro grin grin grin grin keep telling yourself GDP isn't economics!! Makes no difference to the majority of us that know what GDP is!

Just FYI Im an Investment analyst you are a software engineer.......I'm literally an expert in the economic field... And you are a dude that thinks gdp isn't economics grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 2:57pm On May 29, 2020
Read this - Statistics South Africa (Stats SA) will release the results of the Gross domestic product (GDP) for the fourth quarter of 2019, at a media briefing to be held on Tuesday, 3 March 2020

Now, why isn't South Africa Chief Economist releasing GDP? Because GDP is statistics - it basically Q time price - and a summation. Economists take GDP stats and try to make sense out of it..

You are not an investment analyst - may be a mere bean counter.

jl115:
Cool story bro grin grin grin grin keep telling yourself GDP isn't economics!! Makes no difference to the majority of us that know what GDP is!

Just FYI Im an Investment analyst you are a software engineer.......I'm literally an expert in the economic field... And you are a dude that thinks gdp isn't economics grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 2:58pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
GDP is the statistics of the economy. The keyword is statistics. Now as an accountant - you learn economics - just like I also learned economic 101 as a CS major. But btw an economist and a statistician - the statistician comes up with GDP - and the economist ANALYSE GDP.

Collection and coming up of GDP is the work of Statistician. The interpretation of GDP figures is the work of an economist - who then design economic policies.

Most statisticians work in Planning and Stats office that come up with GDP figures.

Most economists work in the Treasury who come up with economic policies - tax, fiscal, monetary, labor, name it.

Hahahaha look at you grasping at straws!!!

Let me remind you what you said "GDP is actually not Economics-it is basic statistics"
Now all of a sudden GDP is statistics of the economy.... Yet you said GDP had nothing to do with Economics

Also fyi never claimed GDP wasn't statistical in nature... All I said is GDP is economics!!

And maybe Google the history of GDP and you would realise that it was economists and not staticians that developed the formulas for calculating GDP

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:01pm On May 29, 2020
Context is everything. If you agree that GDP is basic statistics - then you agree it's not the domain of economist at all - but every citizen should be able to understand that GDP is counting the beans, the goats, the maize produced per annum. And that was the point - that I was trying to put a cross.

But obviously you're interested in polemics.

A South African Investment Analyst who misses South Africa Reserve Bank printing MONEY to buy gov debt for the first time.

What exactly are you ANALYSING? and who are you, clients. No wonder South Africa has seen a SHOCKING CAPITAL flight.

If the kind of Investment Analyst they are producing are you type- then South Africa will continue to print more and more money.

Investment are being shifted from Joburg to London - as we speak - because your type cannot analyze shiet.

jl115:
Hahahaha look at you grasping at straws!!!

Let me remind you what you said "GDP is actually not Economics-it is basic statistics"
Now all of a sudden GDP is statistics of the economy.... Yet you said GDP had nothing to do with Economics

Also fyi never claimed GDP wasn't statistical in nature... All I said is GDP is economics!!

And maybe Google the history of GDP and you would realise that it was economists and not staticians that developed the formulas for calculating GDP

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 3:10pm On May 29, 2020
leo552:


stop grapevine,your info is not substantiated


Exactly why I brought it here to be scrutinised.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:34pm On May 29, 2020

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 3:44pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Ghana vision 2050

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRdqC4lhRM
lipsrsealed Looks just as bland and Disappointing as the other 1,000 you posted it. Is this really all you got? I am thoroughly underwhelmed.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 3:47pm On May 29, 2020
gallivant:
The Capital






Looks like a stone village. grin

Abuja The Capital

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 3:56pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Context is everything. If you agree that GDP is basic statistics - then you agree it's not the domain of economist at all - but every citizen should be able to understand that GDP is counting the beans, the goats, the maize produced per annum. And that was the point - that I was trying to put a cross.

But obviously you're interested in polemics.

A South African Investment Analyst who misses South Africa Reserve Bank printing MONEY to buy gov debt for the first time.

What exactly are you ANALYSING? and who are you, clients. No wonder South Africa has seen a SHOCKING CAPITAL flight.

If the kind of Investment Analyst they are producing are you type- then South Africa will continue to print more and more money.

Investment are being shifted from Joburg to London - as we speak - because your type cannot analyze shiet.

Bolded: How the fvck did you come to the conclusion that i missed that?? I stated it was fake news that our former minister said thatthey would print money to make everyone rich..........It was the statement i said was fake not the fact that the reserve bank is considering to print money to finance its deficits.

The rest of you post is just B/s not worth a response!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:59pm On May 29, 2020
It really take serious camera angle to snap pictures in Nigeria because everywhere is integrated slums.

Nairobi is on another level. This is Nairobi Metro - Kiambu - Middle class estate. Let us not start the CANADAssmiley as Samrobo claimed.

Ruiru and part of upcoming Tatu city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRVRPj4nWk

AskiaHarem:


Looks like a stone village. grin

Abuja The Capital

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 4:02pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Read this - Statistics South Africa (Stats SA) will release the results of the Gross domestic product (GDP) for the fourth quarter of 2019, at a media briefing to be held on Tuesday, 3 March 2020

Now, why isn't South Africa Chief Economist releasing GDP? Because GDP is statistics - it basically Q time price - and a summation. Economists take GDP stats and try to make sense out of it..

You are not an investment analyst - may be a mere bean counter.

Jeezes you are dumber than i thought!!! grin grin grin grin

You do realize that Stats SA hire economists to calculate economic statistics like GDP right?? There are literally job vacancies on their website right now for Economists!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 4:06pm On May 29, 2020
jl115:
fair enough
cheesy

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 4:06pm On May 29, 2020
What is so difficult in calculating GDP?
jl115:

Jeezes you are dumber than i thought!!! grin grin grin grin

You do realize that Stats SA hire economists to calculate economic statistics like GDP right?? There are literally job vacancies on their website right now for Economists!!

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