Considering the recent finding of bones by scientists using carbon dating where we hear that their ages were millions of years ago, instead of arguing science with the Bible, could carbon dating actually be right??

Now let's look at Creation.

We know God created everything in 6 days. After creation, he put man in the garden of Eden. Now man was without sin.

Is there anywhere we can find how long Adam and Eve stayed in the garden before they sinned?

Or is it possible that Sinless Adam and Eve, had stayed thousand of years in the garden (Remember at Sinless state, time doesn't matter) before being deceived by the Devil?

Remember Devil was already declared a rogue before he deceived Adam and Eve.

St Peter stated in his epistle.."that 1000 years is like 1 day, and 1 day like a 1000 years in God's sight".

So is it possible that Adam and Eve lived thousand of years in the Garden, while other creatures like Dinosaurs etc, lived in other parts of the Earth....

NOTE: Gen 1:2 states that the Earth was without form and void, and darkness was upon the face of the deep.

Hence there was no way any living creature could live where there was darkness, no form, only vast water expanse nor air; and since we can't deny that these creatures existed, hence, the years Adam and Eve lived before they sinned..

hmmmm food for thought

St Peter stated in his epistle.."that 1000 years is like 1 day, and 1 day like a 1000 years in God's sight".

Which means the 6days God created the universe shouldnt be taken literally.

If we can calculate or prove its not a normal 6days. Then we can calculate Adam and Eve existence on earth using same formulae

Except one is true and the other never existed.

Most of the stories in the Torah are adapted from Babylonian epics and myth. Judaism as a religion was created when the Jews left the Babylonian exile. Ezra and possibly nehimaih were ordered to write the laws of God since there where already familiar with it and take it along to teach the Hebrews.. Most of whom never even knew who the creator was as they worshipped the Baal's and asherah ie the sons and daughters of Enlil.. That is the gods of the cananites...
The Adam and Eve story was adapted from the Adapa story in Babylonian religion.. It tells the story of how man lost the chance or forfeited the chance to stay on earth indefinitely..

Adam simply means man and Eve means woman..

cruxgemmata:
St Peter stated in his epistle.."that 1000 years is like 1 day, and 1 day like a 1000 years in God's sight".

Which means the 6days God created the universe shouldnt be taken literally.

If we can calculate or prove its not a normal 6days. Then we can calculate Adam and Eve existence on earth using same formulae

Adam lived for 930 years... Which is not up to a day.... He left the other 70 years to his children... Lol..

cruxgemmata:
St Peter stated in his epistle.."that 1000 years is like 1 day, and 1 day like a 1000 years in God's sight".

Which means the 6days God created the universe shouldnt be taken literally.

If we can calculate or prove its not a normal 6days. Then we can calculate Adam and Eve existence on earth using same formulae

Can you give us a bible verse to back that up?

sonmvayina:


Adam lived for 930 years... Which is not up to a day.... He left the other 70 years to his children... Lol..

Age and time started counting after fall of man... Do you know how long Adam and Eve stayed in the garden before they sinned??

Amotolongbo:
Can you give us a bible verse to back that up?

Ask the OP. I just quoted that part from his thread. Ask him to back it up.

My hand no dey

Amotolongbo:
Can you give us a bible verse to back that up?

2 Peter 3:8-9

3 months.

Jokerman:


Age and time started counting after fall of man... Do you know how long Adam and Eve stayed in the garden before they sinned??

See my previous post..

There is an interesting video on YouTube by
Enki35 productions on the origins of man... Very very educative... You will learn a lot from it...


Shalom.

sonmvayina:


See my previous post..

Bro... 930 years was after they had left the garden of Eden.

Remember God told Adam that it if they aye the fruit, that same day, they'd die...

How long have they've been in the Garden before they ate fruit??... Could be thousand of years or maybe millions... Who knows?

Adam had lived for sometime before God created Eve to be his wife! Genesis 2:20-23

Note that Adam named all the Animals as God was forming them, he kept bringing them to Adam until all the animals were named. Genesis 2:19

So Adam must have spent some days after creation before God created the last creature 'Eve'. Genesis 3:1-6

That's why it was easy for that thurg of a creature to deceive her! 1Timothy 2:14

Jokerman:


Bro... 930 years was after they had left the garden of Eden.

Remember God told Adam that it if they aye the fruit, that same day, they'd die...

How long have they've been in the Garden before they ate fruit??... Could be thousand of years or maybe millions... Who knows?

How old was thanos before he started collecting th stones..?.. It is just a story.. Allegorical story.. I gave the message in my first post..

sonmvayina:



How old was thanos before he started collecting th stones..?.. It is just a story.. Allegorical story.. I gave the message in my first post..

Lol.... I rather believe what the Bible says than fairy tales from Babylon, Egypt or Persia

Jokerman:


Lol.... I rather believe what the Bible says than fairy tales from Babylon, Egypt or Persia

Most stories of the bible originated from Babylon, Egypt or Persia.

wirinet:


Most stories of the bible originated from Babylon, Egypt or Persia.

Lies.

Actually it is the other way around... Do Moses that wrote the books of Genesis was in Babylon or what??

What kind of devilish subversion of the Lord's book is this??

Jokerman:


Lol.... I rather believe what the Bible says than fairy tales from Babylon, Egypt or Persia

Dumb ass, the Bible is NOT a history text book.. It is a spiritual manual... Read it and learn the messages in it.. So where do you think the writers got their stories from?

Jokerman:


Lies.

Actually it is the other way around... Do Moses that wrote the books of Genesis was in Babylon or what??

What kind of devilish subversion of the Lord's book is this??

See dementia as a result of swallowing white man's doctrines you have absolutely no idea of its origin.
I am truly sorry for your mind and psyche that is solely based on making you feel inferior to the white man.

Even from your biblical fables, Moses was raised and educated in the Egyptian palace. So what does that tell you? That the style, philosophy and plots of his writings would be Egyptian.

sonmvayina:


Dumb ass, the Bible is NOT a history text book.. It is a spiritual manual... Read it and learn the messages in it.. So where do you think the writers got their stories from?

Bible is not a story book.

It's God's message to humans written by men under God's guidance and experiences too.

Never equate God's word with Aladdin and the 40 thieves-esque Babylonian books

wirinet:

See dementia as a result of swallowing white man's doctrines you have absolutely no idea of its origin.
I am truly sorry for your mind and psyche that is solely based on making you feel inferior to the white man.

Even from your biblical fables, Moses was raised and educated in the Egyptian palace. So what does that tell you? That the style, philosophy and plots of his writings would be Egyptian.

Style or philosophy doesn't mean the writings aren't true........

The events that happened during the time of Noah, Father Abraham etc, have all proven to be through...even the Lord Jesus Christ himself confirmed all these. Moreover all these writings can also be attributed to prophet Enoch, the man who was raptured to meet with God because if his holy ways...

Search for the book of Enoch, to open your eyes to understand a lot about the world from time immemorial, and understand a lot why the Bible is the only thing human beings need now

Jokerman:


Style or philosophy doesn't mean the writings aren't true........

The events that happened during the time of Noah, Father Abraham etc, have all proven to be through...even the Lord Jesus Christ himself confirmed all these. Moreover all these writings can also be attributed to prophet Enoch, the man who was raptured to meet with God because if his holy ways...

Search for the book of Enoch, to open your eyes to understand a lot about the world from time immemorial, and understand a lot why the Bible is the only thing human beings need now

You are arguing here, there and everywhere, without no sense whatsoever. I told you most of the biblical stories were plagiarised from Egypt, Babylon/Mesopotamia and Persia, you said they were lies and it was the other way round. You said moses that wrote the bible could not have copied because he was not in Babylon.
I pointed out that Moses was educated in Egypt by Egyptian scholars and not by Jews. He never even lived among Jews until during the exodus.
You are now going off point by taking about Enoch. How many books of the bible was written by Enoch.
Even the Enoch you takedown about was born in Mesopotamia and built his city in Mesopotamia.

wirinet:


You are arguing here, there and everywhere, without no sense whatsoever. I told you most of the biblical stories were plagiarised from Egypt, Babylon/Mesopotamia and Persia, you said they were lies and it was the other way round. You said moses that wrote the bible could not have copied because he was not in Babylon.
I pointed out that Moses was educated in Egypt by Egyptian scholars and not by Jews. He never even lived among Jews until during the exodus.
You are now going off point by taking about Enoch. How many books of the bible was written by Enoch.
Even the Enoch you takedown about was born in Mesopotamia and built his city in Mesopotamia.

You are the one getting it wrong bro.

How can you say the Bible was plagiarized from Egyptian, Babylonian fairy tales. Does the word of God look like fairy tales to you?? You should have said the word of God was written in verbatim with Egyptian fairy tales... Even the Quaran cannot be brought so low.

The events Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, Daniel etc, looks like plagiarism to you.

Stop saying the word of God is plagiarized please. They are true and they are life. Infact the word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ.

These books were written by Revelation and God's guidance.

Jokerman:


You are the one getting it wrong bro.

How can you say the Bible was plagiarized from Egyptian, Babylonian fairy tales. Does the word of God look like fairy tales to you?? You should have said the word of God was written in verbatim with Egyptian fairy tales... Even the Quaran cannot be brought so low.

The events Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, Daniel etc, looks like plagiarism to you.

Stop saying the word of God is plagiarized please. They are true and they are life. Infact the word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ.

These books were written by Revelation and God's guidance.

You have said it all! The word of God is spirit and life!!

Jokerman:


You are the one getting it wrong bro.

How can you say the Bible was plagiarized from Egyptian, Babylonian fairy tales. Does the word of God look like fairy tales to you?? You should have said the word of God was written in verbatim with Egyptian fairy tales... Even the Quaran cannot be brought so low.

The events Adam and Eve, Noah, Abraham, Daniel etc, looks like plagiarism to you.

Stop saying the word of God is plagiarized please. They are true and they are life. Infact the word of God is the Lord Jesus Christ.

These books were written by Revelation and God's guidance.

The Egyptian and Babylonian civilizations were much older and more advanced than the Jewish. Writings and physical structures from Egypt and Babylonia were much older than Isreal. Egyptian and Babylonian cities were much older than any Jewish settlement. So, who is likely to plagiarise who?

Below was the 42 divine laws of Maat, which some parts was plagiarized by moses to obtain the 10 commandments. The 42 divine laws of Maat predates the 10 commandments by at least 2000 years. Most of the laws and ordinances by moses were gotten from Egyptian laws. Most of the stories by moses was from Egyptian and Babylonian texts.

Jokerman:


Bible is not a story book.

It's God's message to humans written by men under God's guidance and experiences too.

Never equate God's word with Aladdin and the 40 thieves-esque Babylonian books

You really don't know anything about the Bible... Do more research..

Bravo to all of you. You have much knowledge of this topic. Can someone answer this question, can one research the Word of God? Don't reduce the Word of God to some historical antiquities. The letter killeth but the Spirit gives life. The Word of God you claim to know is a person and not a monument. You can make researches on the Bible and not the Word of God. For the Word of God is yea and Amen.