komekn:


Were you deh since.

Ah the forum missed you.

I remember when they use to say you are me and l am you.

That's how funny it gets here.

I dey here ooo. Thanks for remembering me ooo.

Hahahaha! It was very funny though. Anyway, thanks.

benji93:
Oh sorry, did you just make a deduction from my deduction? Go do something else that needs your attention.

For your mind, I dey here 24 hours to argue with you.
.......

Joe.bie:
I forgot to add that I am impressed with Rorh's player selection/call ups.

Modified
Some Nigerian coaches will give us better results with this same crop But will they make a good selection?
cc: Curtisaxel7

You didn't make this statement but it birthed the argument. You kinda endorsed it with your reply.

I could swear I saw a statement giving direct analogies. it must have been written by someone else or you modified it. And I think you did modify them.

Choiii chairman of stats, and whoscore is back,

hope say you go forgive me, wey no remember you ontime ehn

welcum back egbon

forgiveness:


I dey here ooo. Thanks for remembering me ooo.
Hahahaha! It was very funny though. Anyway, thanks.

Danielnino00:


Can't they just move it to 2023 and use this opportunity to shift the AFCON to every 4 years ??

4 years ke? Abeg weytin we go dey do for those 4 years

do4luv14:


Choiii chairman of stats, and whoscore is back,


hope say you go forgive me, wey no remember you ontime ehn


welcum back egbon

Hahahaha! You sins have been forgiven you by God na. Who am I?

Thanks. I appreciate.

ChrisKels:



At your first paragraph, key word "convincingly"


At the second paragraph, you getting ahead of time.


If he fails to deliver AFCON gold and (not "or" convincingly qualify for the world cup, he should be sacked while another coach be appointed to take us to the world cup

Errrm, you know these things aren't always straight forward. Imagine we loose to Senegal/Algeria via PK do you still think he'll deserve to be sacked?

komekn:


Unfortunately, opportunity for black coaches in Europe is very limited .

Seyi Olifinjana has been coaching youth football at Wolves for about 5 years but there has been no progression beyond that.

What is Seyi's achievement as a youth team coach? What has he done to show that he deserve the next level?

So its a DVT that caused Keshi's death? Footballers do mistake it for muscle pull.

forgiveness:


Hahahaha! You sins have been forgiven you by God na. Who am I?

Thanks. I appreciate.

Oga forgiveness, welcome o

I recently had a football argument with one guy, na so I rush go transfer market for stats, I come remember you, for my mind I just said, "oga forgiveness will be so proud of me"

safarigirl:


Oga forgiveness, welcome o

I recently had a football argument with one guy, na so I rush go transfer market for stats, I come remember you, for my mind I just said, "oga forgiveness will be so proud of me"

Hehehehe! Very proud...

Thanks. I appreciate.

jihday:
4 years ke? Abeg weytin we go dey do for those 4 years

We can still enjoy other football tournament within that period..
CHAN and world cup...

CAF can even use the opportunity to start a Nations league for interested members country ..

Whats DV?

daveP:
So its a DVT that caused Keshi's death? Footballers do mistake it for muscle pull.

go siddon bro

BascoVanVeli:



She is 100% right and u know it.

jihday:
What is Seyi's achievement as a youth team coach? What has he done to show that he deserve the next level?

That's a very difficult questions to answer.

After qualification you need experience some are privileged not ny merit to do both at the same time.

Privilege is not given to Black players when it comes to coaching in the UK and Europe in general.

Considering how many black players play in the EPL 33% and other leagues in England who will make up at least 20% and that's being conservative. How many black managers do we have.

If you go to the football academies you will find illiterate coaches given opportunity over UEFA grade A coaches if the are black.

Is it that Seyi lacks ability absolutely not. But Seyi no matter what he does will always be denied OPPORTUNITY.

That Opportunity denial means he will never get the experience required to underpin his competencies.

All football clubs in England are racist and it is just a question of degree. There are a very few who are trying to address the issues but most really don't care. It's racist business as usual.

People use the measurements of proportional representation as a reflection to assess the degree of racism.

In this regard 30% of London is probably black but not up too 0.05% of public and private sector senior management is black.

So unless Seyi comes to Nigeria he will probably never ever get the experience thst his white far less qualified peers will get. And then we will prefer them to him.

I'm not anti-Rohr. Let's get that out of the way so you can argue with a more balanced approach.

We are not arguing about who achieved their mandate or who didn't. I was only stating that the mandate giving always borders on trophies won and how far the coach can take the team in tournaments. On that note, Keshi has a better result clearly.

5inchdick:

Before Rohr's appointment, you know the state of the national team. Missing out on two AFCONs and was ranked among no footballing states in the ranking. What was Rohrs mandate? Get to the AFCON semis and Qualify for the World cup. Did he fail on that? Nah, he delivered the desired result.

I agree with most (not all) of the points.

solonnachi:
Analysis: 5 Things Gernot Rohr Brought Into The Super Eagles, Number 5 Is Why Nigerians Love Him?
opera.com May 26, 2020 4:21 AM


The appointment of our Franco-German coach is something of a mixed understanding amongst football lovers in Nigeria.

He came like a fresh breath of air diffusing and slowly removing the offensive and decaying foul environment that had festered on in the Super Eagles for a long period of time. Gernot Rohr was a man on a mission when he took over the hot seat in the year 2016.

I call the position of the Super Eagles coach, a hot seat because every single football fans in Nigeria know that it is a position that can make or mar the coaching career of whoever is occupying it.

Thankfully Gernot Rohr gave his all and brought five noticeable things into the Super Eagles that has ensured his survival as Coach of one of the biggest team in Africa.

1.More On Merit And No More Excess Favouritism



Although over the years, Gernot Rohr has had his own favoured and constant regular members of the Super Eagles first team, but it has not taken away the fact that to enter the Super Eagles, it is all about merit!

Gone were the days when some players felt they own the national team whether they are doing well in their respective clubs or not.

Gernot Rohr came into the Super Eagles to change all that- if you are Under-performing in form especially at club level, chances are high you lose your place in the Super Eagles. Isn't this true?

2.All Round Consistent Football Pattern

Remember the days when the Super Eagles do not have a distinct and direct football pattern or play? We had to rely on many of the juggernauts or succinctly, superstars who will bail us out.



But Gernot Rohr changed all that by bringing into the team a regular football pattern of ferocious attack and disciplined defense mixed with quality football passing and movement.

Under Gernot Rohr, we played football more on the ground than blowing it into the air hoping for the best.

3.Seamless And Easy Transition

Gernot Rohr brought a seamless approach of transitioning from old to new. He showed Nigerians how to replace without displacing quality. I am talking about how Gernot Rohr facilitated the easy change of former players with quality ones.



From when Enyeama had an issue with the National team setup which brought fears to the mind of Nigerians on who will replace the experienced Goalkeeper- Gernot Rohr intelligently and slowly experimented with 4 Goalkeepers till he arrived at two obvious quality choices we have right now based on form in the mould of Uzoho and Maduka. True or not?

Look at our incredible vibrant midfield with the array of quality brimming all over the place, not to talk of our defence and attacking line.

4.Competition Everywhere In The Team

The Hallmark of any great team is the presence of quality competition in the respective positions. Save for one or two players in the Super Eagles, there is a very strong competition for places in the national team setup.

Everything is down to Gernot Rohr relentless effort to continuing searching and inviting the best of the best Nigerian footballers, mostly from overseas(Premier League, Serie A, La Liga, Ligue 1 and Bundesliga) which has drawn the ire of certain segments of Nigerian football fans.

But let us be honest, our local league is actually not reliable at the moment to produce the kind of quality players gracing the Super Eagles on a regular basis.



Do not get me wrong, I am an advocate of the Nigeria Professional League but let be honest with ourselves, most of the discovered foreign based Nigerian players are premium quality! Is this not the fact?



That is why we can bank on Joe Aribo of Rangers Football Club if Etebo is not performing or a Ramon Azeez. Imagine the massive competition in our attacking line- From Iwobi to Chukwueze, Desser, Osimhen, Iheanacho, Emmanuel and hopefully Bukayo Saka. And the Defence?- That one is full of serious competition giving Rohr good headaches in terms of selection.

That was the content Nigerians signed for, putting every players on his toes to appreciate the privileged opportunity of playing in the Super Eagles.

5.Building An Exciting Project For The Future



Gernot Rohr at the moment is well on course to creating and building one of the most exciting team in the annals of Nigerian football.

He definitely came with that template as we are gradually taking our rightful spot in African football as one of the most fearsome teams.

He has brought back that fear and respect for the Super Eagles. Teams now know our fearful team can tear them apart. Gernot Rohr project has made Nigerians to fall in love with the Super Eagles once again- 90% of Nigerians now look forward to when the Super Eagles will play.

Maybe that is why Nigerians love him and do not want him to leave yet?. His exciting blend of quality youth and experience in the Super Eagles can win us the Nations Cup and a respectable outing at the Qatar World Cup!

Is Gernot Rohr one of our best coach ever? I do not know, but certainly he is someone who has really done well for the Super Eagles. And renewing his contract is an imperative thing that NFF must do as quickly as possible.

From Opera News Hub

if you are really good at making deductions you would have noticed from the flow of our argument that I wasn't insinuating that what I said was a fact. talking about fallacies, in one of your post you claimed that Keshi had an ego and he would have not been able to manage these set same crop of players. How do you come about that conclusion since you stated it as a fact? Fare enough, ain't it?
Which player in this current team is bigger than Mikel. Didn't Keshi manage Mikel? Dig out the facts about players he had management issues with. I'm waiting.

5inchdick:


For your mind, I dey here 24 hours to argue with you.
.......

You didn't make this statement but it birthed the argument. You kinda endorsed it with your reply.

I could swear I saw a statement giving direct analogies. it must have been written by someone else or you modified it. And I think you did modify them.

do4luv14:

Whats DV?

Deep Vein Thrombosis.... Clots the blood if the area is rubbed like when you rub a muscle pull. That clot goes to the heart and can cause death. Docs advise to not rub the area. Phew.


Major cause are Anxiety, Hypertension, Alcoholism, Stress.

Rohr on how Billing played us in order to get the attention of Denmark.


Yes my Intel never lied to me

In continuation of our discussion, theGoodJoe yesterday, I had wanted to share a post on Akon's development efforts not only in Senegal, but sierra Leone and several other countries.
My friends, we need to change our mentality,. Let me start from my home front in the Delta State. There are several federal government projects still pending in Warri and environs just because of the feud existing between the ijaws, itsekiris and urhobos. If a project is put in place in a Itsekiri land, wouldn't Urhobos and Ijaws still stand to benefit? These tribes are all neighbors. there is no way development will not spread to the environs. And conversely, if projects where put in place in Urhobo land and Ijaw land... But look at the situation today, Warri that used to be the oil city and used to attract other investments is a dead zone.
For progress to happen we need to put sentiments aside. I am not saying it should be a free fall for anyone coming in to invest. Negotiations have to be made so it ends up a win-win situation.

Let me leave you with excepts from that post so I don't get banned a second time.

Akon, who is bringing electricity to 600 million people in Africa, is the exact definition of someone who gives back. The singer said he has been building his own futuristic city in Senegal that he will name Akon City. Nick Cannon had him as a guest on his Power 106 Nick Cannon Mornings where he discussed a wide range of topics including being involved in politics, wanting to run for political office, and helping to continue developing artists behind the scenes.

The St. Louis native plans on running the whole city he is planning on renewable energy sources. Akon says he will use his cryptocurrency, ‘AKoin” to build the city’s economy. He has dedicated his life to helping people in Africa. The Grammy-nominated singer had originally announced last year, his plans for a futuristic city that would be built on 2,000 acres of land that was gifted to him by Senegal’s President Macky Sall.

‘It’s Akon city. It’s all renewable, the Akon-tainment solar city. It’s all renewable. A real physical place, it’s going to have a real airport. It’s a 10-year building block so we’re doing it in stages,’ the singer tells Cannon in the interview.

Akon also has his own company, Akon Lighting Africa, a project started by him along with Samba Bathily and Thione Niang in 2014 that aims to provide electricity by solar energy in Africa. Since launching, Akon’s group has operations in 14 nations, including Guinea, Senegal, Mali, Niger, Benin, and Sierra Leone

Where is the source my brother? I am not disputing what you posted. But put the source so it is verifiable.

ChrisKels:
Rohr on how Billing played us in order to get the attention of Denmark.


Yes my Intel never lied to me

What about depression?

daveP:
Deep Vein Thrombosis.... Clots the blood if the area is rubbed like when you rub a muscle pull. That clot goes to the heart and can cause death. Docs advise to not rub the area. Phew.


Major cause are Anxiety, Hypertension, Alcoholism, Stress.

Sometimes let's be careful about our instinctual deductions on what's actually happening. We all want what's best for Seyi Olofinjana, but the other guy may have a point. The question is, how well is Olofinjana doing with the wolves youth team. I just checked Wikipedia, and it says that, as of February 2019, he was the loan manager of the team. Based on this although he may be working for Wolves, i do not think he's coaching any of their youth teams currently. I may be wrong, in which case you may provide information that says otherwise. Perhaps you can clarify this if you have access to different information.

komekn:


That's a very difficult questions to answer.

After qualification you need experience some are privileged not ny merit to do both at the same time.

Privilege is not given to Black players when it comes to coaching in the UK and Europe in general.

Considering how many black players play in the EPL 33% and other leagues in England who will make up at least 20% and that's being conservative. How many black managers do we have.

If you go to the football academies you will find illiterate coaches given opportunity over UEFA grade A coaches if the are black.

Is it that Seyi lacks ability absolutely not. But Seyi no matter what he does will always be denied OPPORTUNITY.

That Opportunity denial means he will never get the experience required to underpin his competencies.

All football clubs in England are racist and it is just a question of degree. There are very few who are trying to address the issues but most really don't care. It's racist business as usual.

People use the measurements of promotional representation as a reflection to assess the degree of racism.

In this regard 30% of London is probably black but not up too 0.05% of public and private sector senior management is black.

So unless Seyi comes to Nigeria he will probably never ever get the experience thst his white far less qualified peers will get. And then we will prefer them to him.

do4luv14:
What about depression?

Maybe.

Read recently the moments that lead to him demise... The rubbing of the leg that has been troubling him for years...

ChrisKels:
Rohr on how Billing played us in order to get the attention of Denmark.


Yes my Intel never lied to me

So Billing used Nigeria as a bait to play for Denmark like Tammy and Tomori did to us. He got Rohr fooled.

Thegoodjoe needs at least enjoy 1week back in naija na. Abi una wan send him to Mongolia this time?




The SE is a big big Franchise than we imagine.

Gernot Rohr today in an interview with Colin Udoh.

"There was one problem with Phillip Billing. It was the agent of Billing who called me and he said that he was interested in playing for Nigeria cos he is not playing for the senior team of Denmark and so he wanted me to call him. I said i don't have his number and he gave it to me"

Billing just used Nigeria to gain the attention of Denmark. The guy agreed and then withdrew. This is one of the reasons, I do not like saying names until everything is done.

solonnachi:


So Billing used Nigeria as a bait to play for Denmark like Tammy and Tomori did to us. He got Rohr fooled.

There's still no guarantee that Denmark will call him up self...

Thanks tbaba!
I won't support any player who does these kind of things. They should be exposed and thanks Collin Udoh for putting it out.

tbaba1234:
Gernot Rohr today in an interview with Colin Udoh.

"There was one problem with Phillip Billing. It was the agent of Billing who called me and he said that he was interested in playing for Nigeria cos he is not playing for the senior team of Denmark and so he wanted me to call him. I said i don't have his number and he gave it to me"

Billing just used Nigeria to gain the attention of Denmark. The guy agreed and then withdrew. This is one of the reasons, I do not like saying names until everything is done.

So Billing used us, deceived us and on top of that rubbished us in the media

I am pained

Not new, he did the same to Huddersfield and then mocked them with his twitter account

he used us, deceived us, but didn't rubbish us in the media

mofied
well yes, he said he heard rumors, and didn't know where it was coming from. so you are right somewhat

Subzero047:
So Billing used us, deceived us and on top of that rubbished us in the media

I am pained