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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 5:47pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
The default is to have Statistician head a Statistic body. Mwangi studied BA. In Kenya, there is no degree in Economics. There are of course economists in statistical bodies - but the CORE function is statistical - mathematical.

Moronic version.
slowpoke, the default is to have economists as head of statistical bodies. That's why Nwangi, Kale and Beach are economists.
rvp2018:

Economics is more applied maths. But it good to have pure maths guy churn out the figures.
Economics go beyond numbers. The numbers just represent economics facts on ground.
rvp2018:

And have Yemi Kale in TV stations churning out theories. But Yemi Kale is heck is manipulator.

As for Mwangi - of Kenya - there was incident where he is thought to have manipulated figures - and as always it was agriculture - he manipulated the prices and quantities - and we had agriculture shoot from 23-25% of the economy to 30%.
We know Nwangi is your Chief Cook. Thank you for admitting.
rvp2018:

And that was the time Kenya gov was trying to borrow more from Chinese.

He has put Kenya in trouble. You are going to lose Mombasa port. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:48pm On May 29, 2020
obaaderemi:
I believe you do. cheesy
You just may not admit it.
I hear u.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 5:50pm On May 29, 2020
Lol, these people are still arguing over GDP as basically economics or statistics. grin

for reiteration sake..... GDP IS BASICALLY ECONOMICS!!! wink

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 6:12pm On May 29, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

NI hiyo Chugga....
Yap.
Mambo ya A town
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:18pm On May 29, 2020
If Kenya is in trouble - what would you say about Nigeria? Whose 90% of gov revenues have gone to the wind. Right now - you entire budget basically hinges on borrowing.

Kenya I bet has cooked GDP figures - but Nigeria like I have told you has OVERCOOKED Hers for many years.

Forget about me - Just look at you agriculture figures - and ask yourselves if you can be near US, Canada, Brazil, Indonesia, Russia, India, China. These are countries that based on LAND SIZe alone ..are at minimum 2-3 times (Indonesia)...the rest are so huge...Russia is basically like 10% of planet earth...you can squeeze 10 Nigerians in Canada and it still won't be enough. Brazil is basically a subcontinent and so is India and China.

So when Yemi kale tells you that your agriculture is DEAD and yet it's 4-6th world best - what exactly is he saying. Nigeria in land size is not even in top 20 worldwide I bet.

Don't even bother with the Netherlands who engage in intensive agriculture - please Explain to US how Nigerians that imports lots of food - and grow useless cassava, millet and sorghum - can have agriculture as big as 100B - and 200B as sector!

IMPOSSIBLE.

Heck I checked TANZANIA is bigger than Nigeria in land size smiley smiley. You're number 30. Ethiopea, South Africa, and Egypt way bigger.

You need 20 nigerians to squeeze into Russia - and even if most of it north pole - the amount of wheat in Russia alone would drown Nigeria.

obaaderemi:
slowpoke, the default is to have economists as head of statistical bodies. That's why Nwangi, Kale and Beach are economists.
Economics go beyond numbers. The numbers just represent economics facts on ground.
We know Nwangi is your Chief Cook. Thank you for admitting.
He has put Kenya in trouble. You are going to lose Mombasa port. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 6:25pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
I hear u.
cheesy
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 6:25pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
If Kenya is in trouble - what would you say about Nigeria? Whose 90% of gov revenues have gone to the wind. Right now - you entire budget basically hinges on borrowing.

Kenya I bet has cooked GDP figures - but Nigeria like I have told you has OVERCOOKED Hers for many years.

Forget about me - Just look at you agriculture figures - and ask yourselves if you can be near US, Canada, Brazil, Indonesia, Russia, India, China. These are countries that based on LAND SIZe alone ..are at minimum 2-3 times (Indonesia)...the rest are so huge...Russia is basically like 10% of planet earth...you can squeeze 10 Nigerians in Canada and it still won't be enough. Brazil is basically a subcontinent and so is India and China.

So when Yemi kale tells you that your agriculture is DEAD and yet it's 4-6th world best - what exactly is he saying. Nigeria in land size is not even in top 20 worldwide I bet.

Don't even bother with the Netherlands who engage in intensive agriculture - please Explain to US how Nigerians that imports lots of food - and grow useless cassava, millet and sorghum - can have agriculture as big as 100B - and 200B as sector!

IMPOSSIBLE.


ode leleyi o....... What does d first 2 paragraphs have to do with d 3rd, 4th and 5th? how do they correspond? grin

Anything to drive a shitty point sha. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 6:29pm On May 29, 2020
Agriculture's biggest input is arable land. The next variable is the fertilizer applied. This is basic AGRONOMICS. The rest is details. That is why most modern countries don't bother with it - so much you can squeeze from soils and plants. You can dose it with fertilizers - 10 times what we apply in Africa - and after that - you're DONE. No more productivity or efficiency gains really.

Nigeria cooked GDP fails when you examined it's make-belief agriculture.

You only export cocoa beans. The countries you fake GDP statistics want to imagine are they peers export billions dollars of so many foods - and almost all have Nigeria as their market. The wheat farmer in Russia or Canada is looking at Nigeria and so do Rice farmers and so do milk farmers and so tomatoes farmers...you import basically everything except low nutriental value sorghum, millet and yams.

theenchanter:
ode leleyi o....... What does d first 2 paragraphs have to do with d 3rd, 4th and 5the, how do they correspond? grin

Anything to drive a shitty point sha. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:01pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Agriculture's biggest input is arable land. The next variable is the fertilizer applied. This is basic AGRONOMICS. The rest is details. That is why most modern countries don't bother with it - so much you can squeeze from soils and plants. You can dose it with fertilizers - 10 times what we apply in Africa - and after that - you're DONE. No more productivity or efficiency gains really.

Nigeria cooked GDP fails when you examined it's make-belief agriculture.

You only export cocoa beans. The countries you fake GDP statistics want to imagine are they peers export billions dollars of so many foods - and almost all have Nigeria as their market. The wheat farmer in Russia or Canada is looking at Nigeria and so do Rice farmers and so do milk farmers and so tomatoes farmers...you import basically everything except low nutriental value sorghum, millet and yams.

we don't import rice, we don't import tomato, we recently restricted forex for palm oil and milk importation. we don't import most of our foods... Except those we don't plant or those that can't satisfy demand.

Arable land, u say.... And Nigeria, though being d 31st country in terms of land mass has d 9th largest arable land in d world.

U're a dumbo... I'll keep telling u that. Countries like Algeria, Egypt, Niger, SA, Namibia and so on may have larger landmass than Nigeria BUT Nigeria has d largest arable land in d continent.

Modern countries don't bother with agriculture, u say? U'RE A MAD MAN!!! modern countries bother with agriculture, the only diff between developed nations and Africa is that..... Developed nations do agriculture for food sufficiency while they export the type of agro products they have advantage on.

And they have lower agric sector in their GDP because many sectors generate revenue for than than agric.

U're a mad man.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:01pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
It really take serious camera angle to snap pictures in Nigeria because everywhere is integrated slums.

Nairobi is on another level. This is Nairobi Metro - Kiambu - Middle class estate. Let us not start the CANADAssmiley as Samrobo claimed.

Ruiru and part of upcoming Tatu city.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQRVRPj4nWk


More like Tatu City Neighborhood Block. Underwhelming as usual. Stop disrespecting Canada's housing sector by comparing it to anything comming out of the Crown Slum Colony of Kenya. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:12pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
we don't import rice, we don't import tomato, we recently put a ban on palm oil and milk importation. we don't import most of our foods... Except those we don't plant here.

Arable land, u say.... And Nigeria, though being d 31st country in terms of land mass has d 9th largest arable land in d world.

U're a dumbo... I'll keep telling u that. Countries like Algeria, Egypt, Niger, SA, Namibia and so on may have larger landmass than Nigeria BUT Nigeria has d largest arable land in d continent.

Modern countries don't bother with agriculture, u say? U'RE A MAD MAN!!! modern countries bother with agriculture, the only diff between developed nations and Africa is that..... Developed nations do agriculture for food sufficiency while they export the type of agro products they have advantage of.

And they have lower agric sector in their GDP because many sectors generate revenue for than than agric.

U're a mad man.
cheesy I was going to reply him but just chose to ignore his nonsense.
He doesn't seem to know that agricultural output depends on availability of arable land and not land mass.

These little Indians are so stubborn. I don't think Kenyan certificate is worth the paper on which it is written.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:16pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
Lol, these people are still arguing over GDP as basically economics or statistics. grin

for reiteration sake..... GDP IS BASICALLY ECONOMICS!!! wink
They have agreed. grin

National bureaus of statistics are mainly headed by economists and not statisticians as RIP2018 erroneously believed until I reset his brains.
Dumbo actually thought his Chief statistician in Kenya was a statistician. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:20pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
If Kenya is in trouble - what would you say about Nigeria? Whose 90% of gov revenues have gone to the wind. Right now - you entire budget basically hinges on borrowing.

Kenya I bet has cooked GDP figures - but Nigeria like I have told you has OVERCOOKED Hers for many years.

Forget about me - Just look at you agriculture figures - and ask yourselves if you can be near US, Canada, Brazil, Indonesia, Russia, India, China. These are countries that based on LAND SIZe alone ..are at minimum 2-3 times (Indonesia)...the rest are so huge...Russia is basically like 10% of planet earth...you can squeeze 10 Nigerians in Canada and it still won't be enough. Brazil is basically a subcontinent and so is India and China.

So when Yemi kale tells you that your agriculture is DEAD and yet it's 4-6th world best - what exactly is he saying. Nigeria in land size is not even in top 20 worldwide I bet.

Don't even bother with the Netherlands who engage in intensive agriculture - please Explain to US how Nigerians that imports lots of food - and grow useless cassava, millet and sorghum - can have agriculture as big as 100B - and 200B as sector!

IMPOSSIBLE.

Heck I checked TANZANIA is bigger than Nigeria in land size smiley smiley. You're number 30. Ethiopea, South Africa, and Egypt way bigger.

You need 20 nigerians to squeeze into Russia - and even if most of it north pole - the amount of wheat in Russia alone would drown Nigeria.

This is nonsense. Go back like 200 pages. I am not interested in repeating what I already covered.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:20pm On May 29, 2020
obaaderemi:
cheesy I was going to reply him but just chose to ignore his nonsense.
He doesn't seem to know that agricultural output depends on availability of arable land and not land mass.

These little Indians are so stubborn. I don't think Kenyan certificate is worth the paper on which it is written.
the bolded is very correct.... Many north African countries have huge landmass but mostly desert, not arable.... East Africa is a mountainous or hilly region and some deserts, little arable land, southern Africa.. Deserts.

But the mumu won't know all these.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:23pm On May 29, 2020
obaaderemi:
They have agreed. grin

National bureaus of statistics are mainly headed by economists and not statisticians as RIP2018 erroneously believed until I reset his brains.
Dumbo actually thought his Chief statistician in Kenya was a statistician. grin
so much for rvp2018.

Robin Van-Persie will be ashamed of him for bastardizing the acronymn. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:25pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
the bolded is very correct.... Many north African country have huge landmass but mostly desert, not arable.... East Africa is a mountainous or hilly region and some deserts, little arable land, southern Africa.. Deserts.

But the mumu won't know all these.
How kikuyu1 follows that dumb guy around like a Labrador is beyond understanding. The guy is super dumb!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:26pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
I saw. And I SEEN MANY THAT CLAIMS SOUTH AFRICA WAS ON QE - PRINTING MONEY. Now you're a Mzanzi and analyst - help us find out if SARB printed the rand out of thin air and handed it to ANC treasury.
You do know QE doesn't necessarily mean printing money..........
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:26pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
so much for rvp2018.

Robin Van-Persie will be ashamed of him for bastardizing the acronymn. grin
cheesy The Kenyan rvp scores own goals.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:30pm On May 29, 2020
obaaderemi:
How kikuyu1 follows that dumb guy around like a Labrador is beyond understanding. The guy is super dumb!
dummy-dumb-dumb. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:30pm On May 29, 2020
obaaderemi:
cheesy The Kenyan rvp scores own goals.
haha... own goals indeed!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:33pm On May 29, 2020
theenchanter:
the bolded is very correct.... Many north African countries have huge landmass but mostly desert, not arable.... East Africa is a mountainous or hilly region and some deserts, little arable land, southern Africa.. Deserts.

But the mumu won't know all these.

Your Right smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:35pm On May 29, 2020
AskiaHarem:


Your Right smiley
thank u sir!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:38pm On May 29, 2020
AskiaHarem:


More like Tatu City Neighborhood Block. Underwhelming as usual. Stop disrespecting Canada's housing sector by comparing it to anything comming out of the Crown Slum Colony of Kenya. grin
lol, I'm just seeing this.

Haha. grin yeye guy.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:41pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
What are they buying the Gov Bonds with? Their retained earnings or capital? Their job is to print the rand - they can only buy by printing rand and handing it over to ANC.
My guess would be probably their over R20 billion in capital and reserves....or maybe they can finance it by selling some of its R561 billion in assets!!!

You obvouisly have no idea what the reserve bank is grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:42pm On May 29, 2020
Before I deal with the poverty capital - please tell us what QE mean. Use SARB as an example.
jl115:
You do know QE doesn't necessarily mean printing money..........
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:45pm On May 29, 2020
So who bought their asset. My understanding of reserve bank - of south Africa - is fancy word for the Central Bank of South Africa. What they normally do is to issue bonds for sale - on behalf of South Africa gov. When they offer to buy it - they are basically printing moneyu
jl115:
My guess would be probably their over R20 billion in capital and reserves....or maybe they can finance it by selling some of its R561 billion in assets!!!

You obvouisly have no idea what the reserve bank is grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:45pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
Before I deal with the poverty capital - please tell us what QE mean. Use SARB as an example.
There you go wink

"Quantitative easing is a monetary policy whereby a central bank buys government bonds or other financial assets in order to inject money into the economy to expand economic activity."
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by theenchanter: 7:49pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
So who bought their asset. My understanding of reserve bank - of south Africa - is fancy word for the Central Bank of South Africa. What they normally do is to issue bonds for sale - on behalf of South Africa gov. When they offer to buy it - they are basically printing money
if u were my younger brother and u say something like this in my presence..... I'll make u do frog-jump.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by popizaino(m): 7:50pm On May 29, 2020
vaxx:
The new completed housing estate in Kumasi ( Ghana)... 1200 unit


Are people moving in already?


What is been done about John mahama's project the sagalemi housing project?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 7:50pm On May 29, 2020
rvp2018:
So who bought their asset. My understanding of reserve bank - of south Africa - is fancy word for the Central Bank of South Africa. What they normally do is to issue bonds for sale - on behalf of South Africa gov. When they offer to buy it - they are basically printing moneyu
Yes your understanding......your very very limited understanding!!

Obviously you know very very little of the SARB and its function

And no the SARB does not issue government bonds, government does!!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:52pm On May 29, 2020
Very good. Let assume Nigeria has about 1/5 of Indian arable land. We know Indian apply maybe 2-3 times more fertilizer than NIgeria - I bet 5 times is the figure - why would Nigeria be anywhere near the top 8 countries with arable land.

If we assume you apply same fertilizers with India - you'd about 4-5 times less - but we know you apply very little of it - and we can assume you should be 20-50 times less than Inidia.

Talking USA, China, India, Brazil, Indonesia, Canada, Russia, Canada and Australia.

Those countries agriculture are like 50-100yrs ahead of Nigeria hoe-powered agricluture.

I bet Nigeria has few tractors than Kenya. I have seen fertilizer application is about twice Kenya - with 10% of of the land arable.

theenchanter:
we don't import rice, we don't import tomato, we recently restricted forex for palm oil and milk importation. we don't import most of our foods... Except those we don't plant or those that can't satisfy demand.

Arable land, u say.... And Nigeria, though being d 31st country in terms of land mass has d 9th largest arable land in d world.

U're a dumbo... I'll keep telling u that. Countries like Algeria, Egypt, Niger, SA, Namibia and so on may have larger landmass than Nigeria BUT Nigeria has d largest arable land in d continent.

Modern countries don't bother with agriculture, u say? U'RE A MAD MAN!!! modern countries bother with agriculture, the only diff between developed nations and Africa is that..... Developed nations do agriculture for food sufficiency while they export the type of agro products they have advantage on.

And they have lower agric sector in their GDP because many sectors generate revenue for than than agric.

U're a mad man.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 7:54pm On May 29, 2020
Says the idiots that yesterday didn't know about QE and SARB engaging it. It's very rich. Go back to school. If I was Invst Analyst of South Africa - this would be the AEIOU..the baba or mama.
jl115:
Yes your understanding......your very very limited understanding!!

Obviously you know very very little of the SARB and its function

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