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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:37am On May 30, 2020 |
Nigeria 20% is 100B dollar at minimum. That is larger than Brazil. I have asked you severally how does Nigeria know what was planted? I bet there are wild estimates. In Kenya and most countries - agriculture is formalized to large extent. There are many formal marketing institutions. Also for export-oriented crops like Tea, horticulture - the data there is very solid. Now Nigeria - your agricultural chain is entirely informal - plant some crops - go to the farmer market - and sell them. Apart from maybe shrimps and cocoa beans - you don't export anything. So how does Yemi Kale estimate the production of plants and livestock? I doubt you have even ever done an animal census. You skip the human census because you're too broke and in any case the data has been manipulated since the 1960s. obaaderemi: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:40am On May 30, 2020 |
14-15 floor buildings don't count in Kenya. Most residential apartments are about that height in Nairobi and majority even taller. Kuruptnigga: 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:42am On May 30, 2020 |
Continue to pray for Oil. Manufacturing cannot happen on GENERATORS. You need to sort your electricity mess before any serious profitable manufacturing can happen in Nigeria. obaaderemi: 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:43am On May 30, 2020 |
kikuyu1:Your boss, RIP, said Kenya has more tractors than Nigeria. He was wrong as usual. What you brought is per capita tractor availability. It just proves how inconsequential your country is. You've got only 14,000 tractors in Kenya despite the fact that your agricultural land is very hard to farm. Go figure. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:45am On May 30, 2020 |
Asian countries apply on average about 5 times the fertilizer we do in Africa. Nigeria fertilizer application is twice kenya. But as per capita or per acre - theirs is probably the world worst. Every Nigerian knows their agriculture long collapsed - and what they have is traditional hoe-powered agriculture. But if you read the stats they churn out - they claim to be about the same level with Indonesia and are better than Brazil. Just think about how ridiculous that sound. rationalhuman: 5 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:45am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:Our manufacturing is still higher than yours even with generators. ![]() I am not praying for oil, I am giving you facts. How's tea doing now? 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:47am On May 30, 2020 |
Per capita is everything when you're analyzing unequal countries. Kenya is about half the size of Nigeria. Kenya has about 10% arable land. Nigeria we are told has about 900K - arable land - that is nearly 20 times Kenya - so basically to match kenya - you need 20 times our tractors. obaaderemi: 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:47am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:Our agriculture collapsed and yet rice production is going up. Ask the beninoise and Togolese. 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:49am On May 30, 2020 |
Still higher based on Yemi Kale stats or based on trucks of good leaving Nigeria for the export market - or has anyone seen a ship of Nigeria manufactured goods heading anywhere. Outside Dangote cement - there is nothing manufacturing in Nigeria that is note-worthy. Kenya is a well-known manufacturing giant of EAST AFRICA - our manufacturing goods are all over Africa. obaaderemi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:50am On May 30, 2020 |
Why did you close the borders? Nigerians are probably suffering now. Last I checked food inflation was so high. There was rice shortages. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:52am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:20% of 400bn$ is not $100bn, it's $80bn. Less than Brazil. We all know you have problems with maths. We have a large population which we have to cater for. That's where the production is going. Kenya on the other hand, has only 50m and about 45m are poor, with many starving. 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:54am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019: ![]() ![]() Rice is plentiful in Nigeria and cheap. We closed the borders to protect our farmers. We are not weak like Kenya. Protect your farmers too. 3 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 7:55am On May 30, 2020 |
You should worry about this, Little Indians: 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 7:59am On May 30, 2020 |
But it was more than 100B recently - when you proclaimed your GDP was 500B dollars. Now Brazil agriculture is about 80B dollars. Indonesia is about 130B - then you have giants of India, China and USA. Nigeria claims to be just below USA, China, India, Indonesia, Nigeria ![]() ![]() ![]() But in the meantime nobody has ever seen a shipload of Nigerian goods except cocoa beans. You claim to consume 80B dollars of food - and yet you still import a lot of food. Just how much does an average Nigeria consume? And we know 150M of Nigerians are poor with 100M are Extremely Poor. We also know malnutrition is high as 35%. And when we are talking figures - I like to paint broad-brushes because the point is more important than nitpicking about precision. obaaderemi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 8:02am On May 30, 2020 |
Now you're sending more and more Nigerian into poverty. Your inflation is double-digit - 12-16% - while in Kenya we are playing around 5-6%. The nflation figures tell you the rice story from Abuja is not working. The latest report on inflation in Nigeria has elicited reactions from stakeholders with analysts urging the federal government to ensure that stimulus packages get to farmers to enhance the production of food locally so as to curtail inflation, which rose to a two- year high of 12.34 per cent in April. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 8:05am On May 30, 2020 |
We are amongst the few countries in Africa with STAPLE FOOD STRATEGIC RESERVE. This way we ensure maize prices never really rice so much. So for Maize - we keep strategic reserves of at least 10M bags. The idea is for them to release maize to the market when it starts to rise - and to project demand. We have silos like this all over the country. ![]() obaaderemi: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:05am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:You must know the Nigerian market alone is larger than the entire East African market. That's a lot of soap, vegetable oil, margarine, shoes, mattresses, books, processed food, frozen chicken, processed fish, cocoa drinks, beverages, cement, clothings, furniture, metal goods, cosmetics, e.t.c. ![]() Kenya's manufacturing is very small. Okay, here's the thing: since you Kenyans always run to posting pictures when facts don't favour you, we will post and compare pictures of manufacturing plants today. Let's see how you fare again. ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 8:20am On May 30, 2020 |
200m people - of who 150M are so poor. What can you sell to those Northern Nigerians cattle herders? As for pictures - how long before you go - Indians! Kenya manufacturing is second only to RSA in SSA. We export about 6B dollars of good - majority of whom are manufactured or processed in some way. We export more than 0.5B dollars of apparel to the US alone. Our EPZ - Export Processing Zones - are nearing 1B dollars in total revenues annually. And our manufacturing goods are all over Africa - and our manufacturing firms have branches all over Africa. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 8:25am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:Inflation does not mean food is not available or unaffordable. ![]() I think you are just pained by the rice story. Nigerians are gladly munching locally grown rice now. Meanwhile, this is Kenya even before covid19 lockdown: 4 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 8:28am On May 30, 2020 |
Pray what does inflation means? It obvious Nigerians are not making more money with the economy in a coma since oil collapse of 2014 - and if annually you're seeing double-digit INFLATION rate - then don't be surprised why more and more Nigerians are joining poverty. And I didn't even want to split inflation into core(underlying)- and non-core - into food inflation. In kenya when we say Inflation has rise - it probably means it gone to 6-7% - otherwise, it plays around 4%. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by pacretus(m): 8:54am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:lol.. what does Kenya manufacture, ![]() ![]() ![]() We have advanced to manifacturing aircraft parts and military equipments. Unlike Kenya where everything is reported, almost half of the progress in Nigeria go on reported. Do you really want to compare with Nigeria ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 8:59am On May 30, 2020 |
Nigeria that consumes 100B dollars of food and import more billions facing SSA worst malnutrition Nigeria still remains one of the worst-hit by malnutrition in the Sub Saharan region, with children and women in their reproductive age most affected. The 2018 NBS Demographic Health Survey revealed that 37% of children under age are stunted, 17% severely stunted and 7% wasted. 22% are underweight and 7% are severely underweight. 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 9:01am On May 30, 2020 |
Re-badging cheap Chinese goods is not manufacturing. pacretus: 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:04am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:That's not how it works, son. Inflation rate is a local thing. For example, if a loaf of bread in Nigeria costs #100, then it goes up by 15%, it becomes #115. People aren't going to feel it much because it was cheap already. But in Kenya's case, food already was expensive. Now if it goes up by 10%(your actual food Inflation), then it becomes a problem. That's why you have the attached screenshot. Somalia for example has Inflation of 4%. Does that mean Somalis are better off than Turks with an Inflation rate of 10%? You really have a lot to learn. 6 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:06am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:We are still far from this level: Kenya 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 9:12am On May 30, 2020 |
Cheap is relative. In Switzerland - everything is expensive - but people's incomes are high. A bus driver earns 10,000 dollars a month. So don't compare Kenya with Nigeria - without factoring incomes. Kenya private in the army earns more than a Nigerian major. Now I am not sure where you studied economics - but small inflation is good - but double-digit inflation is very bad - and zero inflation is also bad. It's not some conspiracy that Nigerian are getting poorer and poorer..while Kenya is lifting 10M people out of poverty annually or 1M every year. Kenya inflation is great. Inflation rate compared to previous year 2020* 5.1% 2019 5.2% 2018 4.69% 2017 7.99% Inflation rate for Nigeria - 13% annually - manufacturing poverty at an industrial scale. 2021* 12.37% 2020* 13.39% 2019* 11.4% 2018 12.09% obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 9:15am On May 30, 2020 |
I see the data is too much for you. Now you want to show us pictures of poverty and starvation. obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:18am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:You export mainly crops and flowers. The rest is bshit. That's why you have trade deficits every year. Meanwhile Nigeria's manufacturing sector is more than a 10th of our GDP. That's about 40bn$. More than half of Kenya's entire GDP. Okay, pictures now. Post Indian factories too. We don't care as long as they are in little India. 2. British American Tobacco, Ibadan. 1. Dangote cement. 4 Likes 2 Shares
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:20am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:Like you Kenyans always say: pictures are everything. Why are you running away now? ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:26am On May 30, 2020 |
rvp2018:How is Kenya's destructive tribalism? Last week you had a tribal fightings.Some folks died.. 2 Likes
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mkenya2019: 9:34am On May 30, 2020 |
Yemi kale can churn out fake stats all day. Let me tell you if we were to include kenya manufacturing in rest of Africa - our manufacturing would beat Nigeria. Outside Dangote Cement - you don't have any play in other countries. Let do this for every company you show in Nigeria - I will show you kenya manufacturing companies outside Kenya. 1) Bidco Jinja -Uganda [img]https://bidcougandaltdblog.files./2016/03/factory.jpg?w=648[/img] 2) Simba Cement - Uganda ![]() obaaderemi: 1 Like |
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 9:34am On May 30, 2020 |
Mkenya2019:You need to remember cost of living is higher in Kenya than Nigeria, hence why people are starving and living in slums. The high cost of living makes nonsense of the pay your people get. That's if they get any pay at all. Compare your unemployment rate with Nigeria's: Nigeria unemployment rate. Kenya's unemployment rate 2018 9.31%Kenya' is busy manufacturing poverty, starvation and slums. 5 Likes |
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