Tomiwa69:
Sorry a blunder It kon in the middle of the name...Mhind kon throl Av a good day sir

Ok. Thanks

Tomiwa69:

I swear
Even if god show face for sky now now..I go stone am...ur father probably was jobless with no means of survival so he was smart enough to feed off u religious Dumbo's who will pay Anything to enter heaven... I would do same if there was Nothing to survive on..lol.
A freethinker will Never worship a tyrant even if he mistakenly trip and fell in his bathroom from heaven and land on earth

my late father was a medical doctor if you must know.Gos bless his soul for all the lives he touched
Paul the apostle did worse things before his conversion, but when he encountered Jesus, he simply surrendered, the rest is history, you have no control over your life, you could die the next moment. And by the way, you can't even stone God even if he appears, for you won't be able to withstand his Glory. we are praying for you, but I plead never to try and speak like this among muslims about Allah, you may not survive it.

Tomiwa69:

I am not google
Google is ur friend.. Am not saying that sarcastically but Literally
.go and do ur research

I have done my research. That's why I told you that there's a God who created us all and the universe too. It's not a natural selection or evolution. None of this has been proven in any way. Most of their proofs have been dispatched. That's why I also put those same questions to you. That you don't see or feel something is not prove of it's existence. You don't see air but believe it exists anyway. You don't see your mind but you're in constant communication with it all day. You don't see the stratosphere, ionosphere etc but accept their existence. Why then do you wish to disprove the existence of God? Does it make you uncomfortable that you have to account for your deeds someday and you'd rather believe it's not true so you can do what you wish to do?

Agboriotejoye:

Nobody is going to kill you for anything. Bobrisky is going around as a man and no one has cut off his head. Except you live in the north where I will beseech you to hold your peace. If you're down south, it's live and let's live. Share your thoughts and let's enjoy from the wells of your research.

Finally..A human.
Thank u sir..and fortunately I reside in Lagos..but I barely share my views about all these tho..only that I dont go to churches when I visited my grandparents (I do Sometime but just to leave the house) and I dont go to Mosque when my pops is forcing me Too... That what make em tag me as a bad child..PS:my family are religious on both side

onyxo76:
my late father was a medical doctor if you must know.Gos bless his soul for all the lives he touched
Paul the apostle did worse things before his conversion, but when he encountered Jesus, he simply surrendered, the rest is history, you have no control over your life, you could die the next moment. And by the way, you can't even stone God even if he appears, for you won't be able to withstand his Glory. we are praying for you, but I plead never to try and speak like this among muslims about Allah, you may not survive it.

Lol. Leave that side abeg. As far as muslims are concerned, guys like this are dead men walking. The conditions may just not be right to give them their due.

Agboriotejoye:


It's you who have to accept that science is a tool embraced by humans to solve his social and physical needs just as religion is a tool embraced to solve the spiritual and social needs too. While science makes use of your reasoning ability and observations to solve problems, religion is expected to use your faith ability to solve problems. None is conflicting with the other. As a matter of fact, notable scientists of old even up to modern times were Christians and yet they made brilliant discoveries which you who have taken to worshipping science make use of.
Man has spiritual needs. To deny that is to deny the existence of man itself.

Religion and science are two parallel lines that never meets. Science is a reality while religion is an illusion. In science, there's a consensus about a subject matter, but in religion, there's no consensus about faith, sin, spiritual, heaven, God, Satan, etc.

We know all what science has done and we can prove that all those things were achieved by nothing else but science. But things we claim to be achieved by faith can have equal magnitude of evidence that it was achieved by rocks, stones, sticks and broken bottles.

Wherever you can shove in God, I can shove anything into that gap and still have as much evidence as you do.

onyxo76:
the late dr tai solarin said worse things in the mid 1980s in the newspapers then, a very staunch free thinker who never even believed that God existed, in his dying moments upon his bed with his breath fading, his last words were Oh God, ...ask any adult who is in his mid 40 or early 50 to tell you his story

Were u in the hospital to confirm or tape those words..av u forgotten these is Nigeria.. A very religious and bigotic country to be in that can fabricate lies to their interest.

maynia:


You know the enki and enlil story it probably existed too.

Some of the things in the bible are copied from it.

In the Bible there was a time that such beings existed, nephlims, this is one of the only explanations for the similarities. The first 5 books were written by Moses and if anything historical happened within this period , you will find in those books

Xmuslim:


Sir, here's the conclusion of the study. I have goggled the meaning of the jargons in the article and read both abstract and conclusion but found no link between longevity of life in the early human and this study. Infact, the study recommend more research to confirm some of the observations in the study.

Conclusions
The study has observed that there are dose
dependent and suggested genetic changes in processes associated to cataractogensis. Our study on the three Donors has shown a difference between donor 1 and the other two donors (donor 2 and donor 3) which suggests genetic linked differences.

However, a bigger cohort will be required to establish if genetics play a role. The results also showed that telomere length increased in culture as telomerase activity decreased, as well as there was no ALT activity in these cells.

Therefore, the telomere length increase is inconclusive, but we propose that this is due to the embryonic nature of the cells. This suggests that a link between telomere length and radiation-induced cataracts seems to be present, however, is not clear at present, further studies will help give a conclusive answer.

Given that this was a cell-based study and that telomerase activity decreased over time in culture and telomere length increased, we suggest a further study ex vivo; where telomerase activity and telomere length is measured in the lens alongside which the opacity of the lens is analyzed. A correlation in this will give a more conclusive link between telomeres and telomerase activity to cataractogenesis.

Let's settle this once and for all....

Those who believe in sience should scientifically dicard or dispose the miracles some true men of God did years back, e.g prophet Babalola(his foot print that was on the mountain while praying to God)...

Please don't tell me he use juju bla bla bla.... Cos juju is also a religious belief(which I don't think he use)...

Just scientifically dicard that claim...
Was it that the mountain was melted by lava, or he actually applied some chemicals to his foot to melt the solid Rock or what happened...

Just explain and enlighten us with no insults pls...

Note: do not hide under the disguise of false claiming the incident, there are witnesses and it's not even up to 200years that it happened and the proof is still there till tomorrow, saw it myself... Thanks

Agboriotejoye:


I have done my research. That's why I told you that there's a God who created us all and the universe too. It's not a natural selection or evolution. None of this has been proven in any way. Most of their proofs have been dispatched. That's why I also put those same questions to you. That you don't see or feel something is not prove of it's existence. You don't see air but believe it exists anyway. You don't see your mind but you're in constant communication with it all day. You don't see the stratosphere, ionosphere etc but accept their existence. Why then do you wish to disprove the existence of God? Does it make you uncomfortable that you have to account for your deeds someday and you'd rather believe it's not true so you can do what you wish to do?

I didnt disapprove of the existence of gods too mind u..I am not an atheist but a freethinker... But Anything that disturbes the human race from progressive advancement is what I am against.
Religion
Tribalism
Nationalism
These are what I dispise off
I am all about the human race as gods themselves.. Am Also a humanist

Tomiwa69:

Finally..A human.
Thank u sir..and fortunately I reside in Lagos..but I barely share my views about all these tho..only that I dont go to churches when I visited my grandparents (I do Sometime but just to leave the house) and I dont go to Mosque when my pops is forcing me Too... That what make em tag me as a bad child..PS:my family are religious on both side

You're welcome. It's not a sin to ask questions especially in Christianity. It's a sin to make some statements but even at that, judgement is of God not man. So if you have a genuine research, do well to share it. No one will begrudge you of that. But if not, I honestly advise you to try out Jesus. He's not bad. He's good. He didn't promise us nothing bad will happen to us but instead that he'll be with us while it happens. We are in the world. If we ay because we belong to Jesus then we should not have any bad experiences then our experience of being in the world cannot be complete. What is important is the end result of it all. Are you filled with eternal peace or trouble within? Everyone is in pursuit of happiness. No happiness without peace. That's the order of life. Jesus is the Prince of peace.

Tomiwa69:

Were u in the hospital to confirm or tape those words..av u forgotten these is Nigeria.. A very religious and bigotic country to be in that can fabricate lies to their interest.

if you can get an editor who works with vanguard or guardian newspapers ask for a copy that carried the story then.also his wife sheila who runs Mayflower school in ikenne ogun state is still alive I guess, you can pay her a visit and ask for his last moments, she granted an interview in the dalles then about his last moments

onyxo76:
my late father was a medical doctor if you must know.Gos bless his soul for all the lives he touched
Paul the apostle did worse things before his conversion, but when he encountered Jesus, he simply surrendered, the rest is history, you have no control over your life, you could die the next moment. And by the way, you can't even stone God even if he appears, for you won't be able to withstand his Glory. we are praying for you, but I plead never to try and speak like this among muslims about Allah, you may not survive it.

Unfortunately there was not enough infrastructure laid down in the years of Paul the apostle to do his research thoroughly (Internet) he has logical reasoning tho.. He Question theses believes with a curious mind....and I am not stupid to go amongst lions and start spilling my thought..

Agboriotejoye:


You're welcome. It's not a sin to ask questions especially in Christianity. It's a sin to make some statements but even at that, judgement is of God not man. So if you have a genuine research, do well to share it. No one will begrudge you of that. But if not, I honestly advise you to try out Jesus. He's not bad. He's good. He didn't promise us nothing bad will happen to us but instead that he'll be with us while it happens. We are in the world. If we ay because we belong to Jesus then we should not have any bad experiences then our experience of being in the world cannot be complete. What is important is the end result of it all. Are you filled with eternal peace or trouble within? Everyone is in pursuit of happiness. No happiness without peace. That's the order of life. Jesus is the Prince of peace.

Well the eternal peace of the mind I av now is so pleasurable
Compared to non
Knowing I am not going to an imaginary hell or heaven...tho I am Starting to see some light in Those too as I am on my research about it

Tomiwa69:

I didnt disapprove of the existence of gods too mind u..I am not an atheist but a freethinker... But Anything that disturbes the human race from progressive advancement is what I am against.
Religion
Tribalism
Nationalism
These are what I dispise off
I am all about the human race as gods themselves.. Am Also a humanist

I get you. That's why Christianity is not facing just one direction. It's true that the way some people embrace religion is an impediment to progress truly. But just like tribalism, do we do away with our tribes because tribalism is a problem? The problem is not the tribe but those who have chosen to make it an instrument of division. Same with religion.
Like I mentioned about Christianity, it has different version. There are the Mormons in the US who embrace science actively more than any other denomination I know. You can choose how you want to worship your God, no one can determine that for you. You determine that by yourself and the experience you want of him. He's available in all ways.
The human race are gods truly. But our powers and abilities are limited and we need a higher relationship in our lives to be able to meet total needs we have. Enter religion. Humanists are a confused bunch if you permit my use of that word. How do you worship yourself. Self-worship is worse than atheism because you can't be better than you presently are if you believe your present state is worth worshipping. I honestly suggest you drop it.

Proffdada:
Funny you speak from inexperience. As a kid I saw a lot of things that science can't answer. Religion makes it clearer because it goes beyond the physical. I bet most of you haven't seen 3d shadows phasing through walls in broad daylight.

And to you sir....

Can you biblical or religiously prove to us that 2mols of hydrogen + 1mol of oxygen= H2O(water) is fictitious or imaginary.....

Please don't tell us God is science.. we need a concrete explanation... No insults pls
Thanks

Tomiwa69:

Well the eternal peace of the mind I av now is so pleasurable
Compared to non
Knowing I am not going to an imaginary hell or heaven...tho I am Starting to see some light in Those too as I am on my research about it

May God guide you along the right path. You seem to have a very deep and inquisitive mind. Not necessarily antagonistic as most people opposed to religion are. Respect to you for that.

lambsbread:

Religion and science are two parallel lines that never meets. Science is a reality while religion is an illusion. In science, there's a consensus about a subject matter, but in religion, there's no consensus about faith, sin, spiritual, heaven, God, Satan, etc.

We know all what science has done and we can prove that all those things were achieved by nothing else but science. But things we claim to be achieved by faith can have equal magnitude of evidence that it was achieved by rocks, stones, sticks and broken bottles.

Wherever you can shove in God, I can shove anything into that gap and still have as much evidence as you do.

How does a baby learn to breathe?

Agboriotejoye:


I get you. That's why Christianity is not facing just one direction. It's true that the way some people embrace religion is an impediment to progress truly. But just like tribalism, do we do away with our tribes because tribalism is a problem? The problem is not the tribe but those who have chosen to make it an instrument of division. Same with religion.
Like I mentioned about Christianity, it has different version. There are the Mormons in the US who embrace science actively more than any other denomination I know. You can choose how you want to worship your God, no one can determine that for you. You determine that by yourself and the experience you want of him. He's available in all ways.
The human race are gods truly. But our powers and abilities are limited and we need a higher relationship in our lives to be able to meet total needs we have. Enter religion. Humanists are a confused bunch if you permit my use of that word. How do you worship yourself. Self-worship is worse than atheism because you can't be better than you presently are if you believe your present state is worth worshipping. I honestly suggest you drop it.

U av dropped the bomb of points.. Yes our knowledge is Limited and only be interconnection with the ones who were here before us to tap from their knowledge can Give us more knowledge about that..and I tell u the human.race has done Just that...there is a lot the Government of the world are hiding...truely the gods will revisit someday..we were left alone to evolve on Our own and being watched closely... Without interference to cause disunity in which the then commander in chief of the mission to our milky war galaxy mid used or abused his authority...

Agboriotejoye:


I get you. That's why Christianity is not facing just one direction. It's true that the way some people embrace religion is an impediment to progress truly. But just like tribalism, do we do away with our tribes because tribalism is a problem? The problem is not the tribe but those who have chosen to make it an instrument of division. Same with religion.
Like I mentioned about Christianity, it has different version. There are the Mormons in the US who embrace science actively more than any other denomination I know. You can choose how you want to worship your God, no one can determine that for you. You determine that by yourself and the experience you want of him. He's available in all ways.
The human race are gods truly. But our powers and abilities are limited and we need a higher relationship in our lives to be able to meet total needs we have. Enter religion. Humanists are a confused bunch if you permit my use of that word. How do you worship yourself. Self-worship is worse than atheism because you can't be better than you presently are if you believe your present state is worth worshipping. I honestly suggest you drop it.

The fight for control over the human race was out of hands

Tomiwa69:

U don't believe these but u believe a talking snake,a talking donkey,and all the Animals in the world lived not more than 20 miles to Noah's ark..u are delusional.. Even with evidence been shown to u of the existence of these creatures.. But yet u dumbo religion asshole and ur tyrant on the throne Still can't prove that Noah's ark existed..or y Jesus was hanged amongst thef if he wasnt a thef too..or if Mary wasnt a bitch for carrying Another man's child and claiming it to be an imaginary holy spirit
.

You need a psychiatrist. I understand you might be an atheist but at least you should have a sense of decorum when talking to people you don’t know, just like first impression. So in summary, I am saying you are sick upstairs

FlordFlorez:
Im a science student. I studied both physics, chemistry and biology. More than half of what we were taught/read were not fully proven. Science to some extent is mysterious just as God and everything about Him are. Stop being ignorance and foolish at the same time.

Then you must have attended a quack school, with no science lab. My secondary school had extensive science labs for chemistry, physics and biology.
A science student who never carried out experiments to prove basic science theories cannot be called a science students. He is no different from arts students that cram textbooks to pass exams.

Proffdada:
even with evidence of nature, your dumb brain still thinks creation is accidental

Evidence of nature is evidence of nature, evidence of nature is not evidence of God. Just like evidence of fire is evidence of fire, evidence of fire is not evidence of matches,

Agboriotejoye:

How does a baby learn to breathe?

You don't learn how to breath just like you don't learn how to make your heart beat

Agboriotejoye:


May God guide you along the right path. You seem to have a very deep and inquisitive mind. Not necessarily antagonistic as most people opposed to religion are. Respect to you for that.

Am believing in the concept of heaven an Hell as a dwelling abode or world..but not According to how religion Propagate it to be...Scientifically it is proven possible to transfer the human conscience (Transplanting the human Mind) to another form of embodiment in which it can control..that is where Human immortality will come...transferring the human brain to an artificial intelligent embodiment that cannot die or decay...Unfortunately we are still in our early stage of scientific and technological advancement.. But what if the gods already av these technologies.. And they are transferring the human soul (Conscience) to a new embodiment after he died and at that time he will still be conscience of his action before..as it is proven that the Human brain which abords it conscience cannot die if preserved in a new embodiment Apart from the skull..then the Thought of internal life in heaven or hell comes to mind..but I doubt if it really to please or punish any soul as it just politics of the gods to gain control on who will win more human soul and conscience as the politics of the present day world is..

staneless:


Pls always try to understand someone's comment b4 you start to claim ITK (I too know)...

It's like your own MUMU dey crow like cock! I never said I don't know what carbon dating was all about. Go through my comment once more, this time around, slowly...

All I'm trying to say is the year range (150million years) is too much! It is not possible to determine that using carbon dating technique I know. I will rather advise you go and read up the years range of radiocarbon dating, ok?!

Lmaoooo...you lots get emotional during discourses. Calm down....you never explicitly said 150million years is too much for that technique or maybe I just assumed you said 150M years is wrong for the dinosaur. Other dating techniques of course do work. When you date rocks containing fossils, we assume the fossil is formed at the time of the rock and such are the same age. So if you date a sedimentary rock or if a sedimentary rock is found in a sequence ascribed to a particular geological time period on the geological time scale,you cab ascribe such age to the fossil it contains. The absolute age might have a range of plus/minus 1M or less but still fairly accurate.

lambsbread:

You don't learn how to breath just like you don't learn how to make your heart beat

You don't understand the question. When a baby is in the mother, it is generally accepted that it does not breathe through the nostrils but receives its needed supply of oxygen from the mother. Now, at the point of coming out, it starts to breath. What i'm asking you is at what point does the baby know when to start breathing? It's a simple question really.

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Macsjebs:

Pls do u have where u pen down your write up or any compiled stuff so I can read (pardon my temporary laziness to do a research of my own)

It did not Take me just one read of an article to av jump to these conclusions..it took me years of research..I started to Question what was in the bible or Quran at about the age of 13. I would ask Question hoping to get straight forward Answer from the so claimed prophet and clerics..but they will shut u up as such Question is a blasphemy to gods name..so I had to play along to make em Think I understood what they were preaching until a phone was given to me..I had been on researched upon researches..trying to gather the best and worst view on every religion entity both from god and the satanist....Logical Thinking is key to an open mind..it did not take me a day of research to jump into conclusion.. If I never surf anywhere for the internet regarding religion and astronomy Remain small... Am in my early twenties now and research goes on
Knowledge is Never limited..

THEY JUST WHERE TOO BIG TO GO INTO THE ARK IN THE DAYS OF NOAH, THEY DIED WITH THE FLOOD

Wawelexy:


Let's settle this once and for all....

Those who believe in sience should scientifically dicard or dispose the miracles some true men of God did years back, e.g prophet Babalola(his foot print that was on the mountain while praying to God)...

Please don't tell me he use juju bla bla bla.... Cos juju is also a religious belief(which I don't think he use)...

Just scientifically dicard that claim...
Was it that the mountain was melted by lava, or he actually applied some chemicals to his foot to melt the solid Rock or what happened...

Just explain and enlighten us with no insults pls...

Note: do not hide under the disguise of false claiming the incident, there are witnesses and it's not even up to 200years that it happened and the proof is still there till tomorrow, saw it myself... Thanks

Have you seen the footprint yourself sir? Can I have the picture?

onyxo76:
the late dr tai solarin said worse things in the mid 1980s in the newspapers then, a very staunch free thinker who never even believed that God existed, in his dying moments upon his bed with his breath fading, his last words were Oh God, ...ask any adult who is in his mid 40 or early 50 to tell you his story

This does not proof anything. I do say oh my God too because it was imprint in my brain from childhood by parent and society. It becomes involuntary action for me.