donjazet:


An illiterate here in Nigeria will likely not know all the 36 states and capital, but a British citizen who has studied about Nigeria would easily reel it off.
Likewise an illiterate in America who will not know the 50 states and capital but I have known this since my secondary school.

Acquiring knowledge is about interest and dedication, you should know this.

Everybody is just saying Donjazet is rigid or doesn't acquiesce to other peoples opinions but none have actually countered my stance on racism because I am right on it. Before I go into a particular argument, I am sure that I am well versed in it.

nihilistjnr:


There's another talk that I'm hearing now....

That the cop and victim might have been co-workers for 17 years

afrodoc2:

The way this debate dey go here i hope someone’s egungun won’t cross express soon.

Ibime:


No they weren't. The cop worked there for 17 years and was known to be overly aggressive with black customers. George Floyd had recently joined the same company but they never worked the same shift together.

"I wouldn't characterize them as knowing each other," Santamaria told CNN's Josh Campbell in an interview. "We did all work together at the club at different points of time, certainly on Tuesday nights on and off. We were all working on the same team."
Santamaria added, "We all worked together certain nights and they would have crossed paths."

hopefulLandlord:
Both Donjazet and Nihilistjnr have good points. It doesn't always have to be one or the other. Yes! living in a place where there is racism doesn't mean you know it on a global level just like experiencing it isn't the same as reading about it. I think this is the kind of argument that would go on and on till one party gets tired

izzou:


Go back and check your posts here. You have never entered into any discussion with anyone outside football, and in the end, it ended with knowledge dissipated or others enlightened.

You are never open minded. You never believe you know less, and you must find a way to argue even when you have no experience over it.

So we should take the words of someone who checked on Google Chrome, to some who has stayed abroad for 10 years?

You really are intelligent, but your agidi no dey let you look like that.

If you don't agree with their opinions, swallow the pill and rest. You must not try to force everyone you're right

hopefulLandlord:
Both Donjazet and Nihilistjnr have good points. It doesn't always have to be one or the other. Yes! living in a place where there is racism doesn't mean you know it on a global level just like experiencing it isn't the same as reading about it. I think this is the kind of argument that would go on and on till one party gets tired

nihilistjnr:


I dont think you understand what's going on here.

izzou:


Go back and check your posts here. You have never entered into any discussion with anyone outside football, and in the end, it ended with knowledge dissipated or others enlightened.

You are never open minded. You never believe you know less, and you must find a way to argue even when you have no experience over it.

So we should take the words of someone who checked on Google Chrome, to some who has stayed abroad for 10 years?

You really are intelligent, but your agidi no dey let you look like that.

If you don't agree with their opinions, swallow the pill and rest. You must not try to force everyone you're right

Expert17:


Where this Izzou come from

nihilistjnr:


The owner of the club said that they worked overlapping shifts, and while their paths would have crossed, though they may not know each other .



https://edition.cnn.com/2020/05/29/us/george-floyd-officer-derek-chauvin-security-club-trnd/index.html


I'm going to look up that club now to check how big it is.

seankafor:
oga calm down, because say person dey abroad no mean say e no everything wey dey sup for that side.

The world has evolved in such a way that information and enlightenment is at the tip of your fingers..

Make Una stop to dey hype these stuffs

Ibime:


She said if they had known each other, the cop despite being a racist would likely have shown some mercy instead of killing him.

hopefulLandlord:


The biggest problem with charging him for murder is that he would go Scott free IF he's not found guilty and you can't charge him for that crime again due to Double Jeopardy law. basically if I steal your 300K and you planned to use it to pay for the medical operation of a family member who then died due to the fund being stolen by me and you charge me with murder I'd be found not guilty. here comes the interesting part, your charging me with murder and I'm not found guilty would mean you can't then turn around and charge me of theft or many other charges again because it's the same incident. its a little more complicated than that but that simplifies it

So if they charge the police with 3rd degree murder and he is found not guilty he would walk and they can't turn around and charge him for manslaughter for that same incident due to Double Jeopardy law

izzou:


Until, you get to live in Borno state, you won't know a large part of it is still peaceful.

But online, you're most likely not to hear anything good about it

My point is? There's a point when you have to listen to experience and evaluate your opinions again, instead of holding fast to what you read online

All what we read online are mostly people's opinions too. Do you know that?

nihilistjnr:


Yeah but that's a speculative angle.

The fact seems to be that they worked together at the same bar, and even alongside each other on occasion.

I'm now speculating if there's more to this story. You know bouncers are the ones who control the flow of drugs into the clubs...I'm now wondering if there is a training day type scenario happening here.

Because quite frankly, the club doesn't look like its that big where you will cross paths more than once and won't remember

izzou:


Until, you get to live in Borno state, you won't know a large part of it is still peaceful.

But online, you're most likely not to hear anything good about it

My point is? There's a point when you have to listen to experience and evaluate your opinions again, instead of holding fast to what you read online

All what we read online are mostly people's opinions too. Do you know that?

donjazet:

there are some black illiterates or poor black people born in the UK who might be completely oblivious to the issue of racism. They might be experiencing forms of racism without knowing about it.

donjazet:


My frustration with you on this racism issue is how you are seriously underscoring the problem.
You can't give solutions to a problem if you do not fully understand the scope of the problem.
Please, you need to broaden your horizon and deeply understand this global menace called racism.

seankafor:
lol.. talking of borno
Who doesn't know the peaceful areas in parts of borno?
I even know and learnt they enjoy at least 23 hrs power supply everyday ( I mean their capital city)
The insurgency ridden part is mainly in their outskirts and around lake Chad side.. and moreso borno has a landmass greater than whole south east combined.. so it's pretty damn big the size of belgium.lol


I sleep on the internet everyday bro.. nothing hardly goes around the world that I don't have any knowledge about..unless am not interested in it.

I can categorically tell you things about that borno even you wey dey stay there sef go shock because maybe you never had a knowledge of.

Oga gone are the days when folks go dey intimidate us with all those abroad yearns..
(Reminds me of this adage that says.." if we no go school,you for tell us say we dey pay money for photosynthesis )

Godx:

Sometimes even being at your house and peacefully sleeping can get you killed.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/21/us/fbi-louisville-shooting.html

Ibime:


Nah, not once in the video did George call the cop by name. There was no recognition between them

What you have here is a cop who harbours prejudice and is overly aggressive with black guys. His egungun finally entered express that day

izzou:


I am currently in Festac Town

Kindly browse through the internet and tell me what happened Full House bar, 6th Avenue Lagos yesterday.

The internet knows it all, but it, most times never beats experience.

Always know when to chill when you have no experience over something. That's wisdom, to me

hopefulLandlord:
Both Donjazet and Nihilistjnr have good points. It doesn't always have to be one or the other. Yes! living in a place where there is racism doesn't mean you know it on a global level just like experiencing it isn't the same as reading about it. I think this is the kind of argument that would go on and on till one party gets tired

nihilistjnr:


Donjazet is actually arguing that the knowledge of race relations he gained from browsing the internet in Nigeria is superior to the life experiences of those people who have to deal with other races daily.

That's the bit that really bust my head





It's not even like he's trying to provide a different perspective. It's him saying the people who live this life dont understand it...but he does

He should take it easy abeg.

Meanwhile, make sure you broaden your horizon sha

Melvyn11:

I see only one party with good points. There are people that know more about American politics in Nigeria than others who live in the U.S . Same scenario applies here.

Melvyn11:

I see only one party with good points. There are people that know more about American politics in Nigeria than others who live in the U.S . Same scenario applies here.

seankafor:
lol, it's just like you telling me to use the internet and tell you what you re wearing or eating right now.
It doesn't work that way..lol, what am trying to say, in matters of global happenings, any one can have first hand knowledge of what is happening irrespective of the person's location..

And as for festac, do you want to bet I can tell you things in that festac you have little or no knowledge about..lol

What am against mainly is people saying because they live in a certain place, no one can tell them shiit about that area.. it sounds so extreme and radical

izzou:
A guy attends the University of Lagos, did his predegree program, started his degree program too, and is going for his Master's in the same university

Then imagine his friend in Dunukofia Local government of Anambra state telling him about what he knows in Unilag, and he thinks he knows nothing because his opinions are different from what he(the friend) read on the internet and books.

Sincerely Donjazet, this is how you sound.

obainojazz:
That's my mom's local government... Where you from man

Is your mum for Umunnachi?

I'm from Idenmili North

nihilistjnr:


Donjazet is actually arguing that the knowledge of race relations he gained from browsing the internet in Nigeria is superior to the life experiences of those people who have to deal with other races daily.

That's the bit that really bust my head

It's not even like he's trying to provide a different perspective. It's him saying the people who live this life dont understand it...but he does

donjazet:


1. They believed that the black man did not completely evolve as a human, that there was just little difference between the primates( gorilla, apes and monkeys) to the black man. As a matter of fact, they put the black man in same cages as the gorillas and apes in exhibition zoos for the whites and their children to observe.
2. They believed that the black man's brain was smaller than the white man's.
3. They believed that the white man was intellectually superior to the black man.
For a long time, many didn't think that the black man could learn how to read and write.
4. They believed that the black man's physiological makeup was much stronger than the white man's, that his bones and muscles were the strongest of the races just like the gorillas hence he was best suited to the farms and plantations as a beast of burden.

Of course, with such racial beliefs firmly rooted in their minds, it inevitably reflected in the social strata of society. With the black man seen as closer to an animal, they were denied basic Human Rights or value which I would also outline.

For a long time, inter-racial copulation was viewed as bestiality.
Inter-racial marriage was viewed as a societal abomination since the black man was not just seen as an animal but also as just property.

Now I have elucidated the kind of society a black person lived in for centuries. We both know how hard it is for such endemic beliefs which held sway for centuries to be shed. Such beliefs were passed down from generations to generations.

donjazet:



First of all, what is RACISM;
Racism is the belief that a particular race is superior or inferior to another, that a person’s social and moral traits are predetermined by his or her inborn biological characteristics. Racial separatism is the belief, most of the time based on racism, that different races should remain segregated and apart from one another


When we talk of racism, you begin to list other lesser forms of human problems like Nazism, anti-semitism or even common independence struggles found in small pockets around the globe.

Racism is a belief system that took hold around the entire world for centuries, it was not limited to a region, country or even continents.

A black person is treated differently in many South American countries like Brazil, Argentina, Venezuela etc.
A black person is treated differently in America and Canada.
A black person is treated differently even in his native African continent, cue in South Africa, Kenya, Zimbabwe etc.
A black person is treated differently in asia, like in China, Japan, Malaysia etc.
A black person is treated differently in Europe, like in Russia, Germany, many Eastern European countries etc.
RACISM IS A GLOBAL PHENOMENON.

donjazet:


The solution to the problem is continuous sensitization and awareness towards the issue. To be able to continue the global campaign on the dangers of racism.

We already have numerous black people in positions of power on a global stage. Spread across many countries in all continents. And also in the UN and other reputable international bodies.

As I said yesterday, African countries need to rise up too. Because racists look upon the plight of African countries and it reinforces their beliefs that the black man is incapable of self rule and basic organisation.
African countries need to unite. Racism affects the entire black race that makes up up-to 25% of the global population.
African countries need to unite and have one voice internationally for us to see the back of racism once and for all.

The African continent has the highest amount of natural resources on our soil, there you have your incentive and leverage. other people need us, we simply need to speak with one voice.

Please, you need to broaden your horizon and deeply understand this global menace called racism.