Magnus Abe....damn is obvious the appointment is to compensate

senatordave1:


Its possible.it could also be amechi's doing.one thing with buhari is that he doesn't forget favours,he always pays loyalty.he never forgets any favour done him.without amechi,he wouldn't have been president.he is always grateful

BMO crew

senatordave1:


You accuse buhari of only appointing mostly northerners and you later claimed he gave juicy posts to his people alone.this again has punctured your watery and warped claims.


Concerning Abe and amechi,i never categorically said amechi endorsed him.I said there is a slight possibility that amechi endorsed him because any federal position coming to rivers must be endorsed by amechi and if not amechi,you can't put it past sylva.

In Nigerian politics,anything is possible to satisfy personal interest.peterside is not the only protege amechi has.peterside being kicked out might be with amechi's doing.we can't believe what all the media is telling us afterall the media are getting the info from somewhere also.we don't know whether its what they agreed originally.we are not physically there with them to know what transpired.we don't know whether the northerner is even amechi protege.for one to go far in national politics,you must have allies both north and south.that is the mistake we make about tinubu.his proteges are not just in the south west but up north.some of these northern appointees are tinubu men but because buhari is being painted as a nepotistic fellow,we miss it.
In summary,amechi and Abe are not in good terms but it doesn't mean they won't reconcile later once their interest aligns.amechi is a smart man and must know that the easiest way to remove pdp in rivers is by fielding Abe and empowering him early is key.am not saying am correct,I may be wrong.I may be right.time will tell.but the fact is that buhari is not tribalistic as being painted,not all northern appointments are buhari loyalists,some may be tinubu lackeys...I hope you understood my points

Point me to where I said buhari appoints only northerners. Your head is buried so deep in buhari's ass you'll need an excavator to dig you out.

The same Amaechi who said he wasn't aware Peterside was removed is the one who recommended his sack according to you.
Since you're more informed than the media, why don't you give us your own news? Why rely on same media for your news?

The funniest part is a northerner being Tinubu's lackey!! Not political associate o. Lackey! And here I was thinking you're politically enlightened. Mere support Tinubu showed Lawan in 2015 cost him the senate presidency. Don't even begin to think a southerner will play subordinate to a northerner politically. It can't happen. Did you see how all the northerners in PDP including the chairman and VP sabotaged GEJ in 2015? You really goofed on that.

I've told you what is common knowledge about Amaechi and Abe. If you have superior info share it else keep your analysis to yourself.

senatordave1:


The question is between abe, peterside and Cole,who can easily make it to the govt house?

Direct your question to amaechi. He preferred Peterside to Abe in 2015 and Tonye Cole to same Abe in 2019.

I hope they perform their duties effectively.



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senatordave1:


You accuse buhari of only appointing mostly northerners and you later claimed he gave juicy posts to his people alone.this again has punctured your watery and warped claims.


Concerning Abe and amechi,i never categorically said amechi endorsed him.I said there is a slight possibility that amechi endorsed him because any federal position coming to rivers must be endorsed by amechi and if not amechi,you can't put it past sylva.

In Nigerian politics,anything is possible to satisfy personal interest.peterside is not the only protege amechi has.peterside being kicked out might be with amechi's doing.we can't believe what all the media is telling us afterall the media are getting the info from somewhere also.we don't know whether its what they agreed originally.we are not physically there with them to know what transpired.we don't know whether the northerner is even amechi protege.for one to go far in national politics,you must have allies both north and south.that is the mistake we make about tinubu.his proteges are not just in the south west but up north.some of these northern appointees are tinubu men but because buhari is being painted as a nepotistic fellow,we miss it.
In summary,amechi and Abe are not in good terms but it doesn't mean they won't reconcile later once their interest aligns.amechi is a smart man and must know that the easiest way to remove pdp in rivers is by fielding Abe and empowering him early is key.am not saying am correct,I may be wrong.I may be right.time will tell.but the fact is that buhari is not tribalistic as being painted,not all northern appointments are buhari loyalists,some may be tinubu lackeys...I hope you understood my points

wise man

Agboriotejoye:

Point me to where I said buhari appoints only northerners. Your head is buried so deep in buhari's ass you'll need an excavator to dig you out.

The same Amaechi who said he wasn't aware Peterside was removed is the one who recommended his sack according to you.
Since you're more informed than the media, why don't you give us your own news? Why rely on same media for your news?

The funniest part is a northerner being Tinubu's lackey!! Not political associate o. Lackey! And here I was thinking you're politically enlightened. Mere support Tinubu showed Lawan in 2015 cost him the senate presidency. Don't even begin to think a southerner will play subordinate to a northerner politically. It can't happen. Did you see how all the northerners in PDP including the chairman and VP sabotaged GEJ in 2015? You really goofed on that.

I've told you what is common knowledge about Amaechi and Abe. If you have superior info share it else keep your analysis to yourself.

I can't do without buhari but you just can't do without insults,abuses and pouring of invectives so I think am better off.I think I'll be keeping my analysis to yourself although it will always be superior to yours.it could even be the best in this forum.discussing with you is clearly a waste.
Before then,post any link or source showing where amechi claimed he wasn't aware of peterside removal ( is it not the same amechi that once said to the media that he is not corrupt?). That few northerners claimed to sabotage gej does not mean all northerners did so.buhari was always going to win gej,it was as clear as daylight.same northerners worked against buhari in 2003 and 2011 against southerners.why must you make generalizations based on 2015 events? What about 1993 polls?.same lawan that lost in 2015,is he not the senate president? Why did the northerners not make wase speaker instead of femi? A northerner cannot be boys to any southerner according to you but it is common knowledge that ex governor muazu aliyu and David mark are obj boys.you once attested to this,I can still unearth your statements.

Let me drop an advice.don't always expose yourself publicly.try and control your feministic tongue.it is not everything you have in mind that you speak out esp when it concerns sensitive and fragile issues like religion,ethnicity etc

ruggedtimi:
Magnus Abe....damn is obvious the appointment is to compensate

Or arm ahead of 2023

Now dat Magnus Ngei Abe jas been settled maybe Rivers State APC go begin get balance.

Agboriotejoye:

Direct your question to amaechi. He preferred Peterside to Abe in 2015 and Tonye Cole to same Abe in 2019.

In 2023,buhari is going and APC may lose power or an anti amechi president may emerge.is it not better for amaechi to enthrone Abe and have a little leverage in rivers than foist someone who will lose again?

laughitall:
wise man

Am not wise please,am just permutating.politicians in Nigeria are full of surprises so it is better one keeps an open mind so as not to be caught off guard

senatordave1:


Am not wise please,am just permutating.politicians in Nigeria are full of surprises so it is better one keeps an open mind so as not to be caught off guard

you try ..

senatordave1:


In 2023,buhari is going and APC may lose power or an anti amechi president may emerge.is it not better for amaechi to enthrone Abe and have a little leverage in rivers than foist someone who will lose again?

That's your thought not Amaechi's. The facts known are that Amaechi and Abe are on different divides.

laughitall:
you try ..

You look pretty and modest,a beauty fitting for a fine state like new jersey the cross roads of the American revolution and the most densely populated state in the u.s

senatordave1:


I can't do without buhari but you just can't do without insults,abuses and pouring of invectives so I think am better off.I think I'll be keeping my analysis to yourself although it will always be superior to yours.it could even be the best in this forum.discussing with you is clearly a waste.
Before then,post any link or source showing where amechi claimed he wasn't aware of peterside removal ( is it not the same amechi that once said to the media that he is not corrupt?). That few northerners claimed to sabotage gej does not mean all northerners did so.buhari was always going to win gej,it was as clear as daylight.same northerners worked against buhari in 2003 and 2011 against southerners.why must you make generalizations based on 2015 events? What about 1993 polls?.same lawan that lost in 2015,is he not the senate president? Why did the northerners not make wase speaker instead of femi? A northerner cannot be boys to any southerner according to you but it is common knowledge that ex governor muazu aliyu and David mark are obj boys.you once attested to this,I can still unearth your statements.

Let me drop an advice.don't always expose yourself publicly.try and control your feministic tongue.it is not everything you have in mind that you speak out esp when it concerns sensitive and fragile issues like religion,ethnicity etc

You're too dreamy abbeg. I usually get annoyed chatting with you on this forum due to your below average intelligent analysis.
In 2003, OBJ was serving the south's term as decided by the north. GEJ lost the north in 2011. Go and check the records.
I already told you Lawan was generally viewed as Tinubu's lackey in 2015 which was why he wasn't able to garner the support he needed. In 2019, you could see Tinubu taking a backseat to avoid that colouration again. Note that Lawan is not even Tinubu's lackey per se. Except you don't know what lackey means.
You can show me where I said muazu and David Mark are OBJ boys. Maybe David Mark due to his military background plus OBJ is acceptable in the north due to his nationalistic outlook. I don't know how you can even be comparing OBJ to Tinubu politics wise. It's part of the lack of political intellect you lack which I talked about.
FYI, here's the link of Amaechi saying he's unaware of dakuku's sack. I'm surprised you don't know this. It was common knowledge then.
https://thenationonlineng.net/i-am-not-aware-of-petersides-sack-amaechi/amp/

Agboriotejoye:

You're too dreamy abbeg. I usually get annoyed chatting with you on this forum due to your below average intelligent analysis.
In 2003, OBJ was serving the south's term as decided by the north. GEJ lost the north in 2011. Go and check the records.
I already told you Lawan was generally viewed as Tinubu's lackey in 2015 which was why he wasn't able to garner the support he needed. In 2019, you could see Tinubu taking a backseat to avoid that colouration again. Note that Lawan is not even Tinubu's lackey per se. Except you don't know what lackey means.
You can show me where I said muazu and David Mark are OBJ boys. Maybe David Mark due to his military background plus OBJ is acceptable in the north due to his nationalistic outlook. I don't know how you can even be comparing OBJ to Tinubu politics wise. It's part of the lack of political intellect you lack which I talked about.
FYI, here's the link of Amaechi saying he's unaware of dakuku's sack. I'm surprised you don't know this. It was common knowledge then.
https://thenationonlineng.net/i-am-not-aware-of-petersides-sack-amaechi/amp/

I still can't find where you mentioned muazu aliyu but I remember you did.at least you mentioned other northerners like saraki and el rufai as obj boys although this is debatable.

Amechi saying he is unaware does not mean he didn't not endorse it later after all dakuku is more or less a political paperweight.giving Abe such a post could be part of a veiled reconcilatiory move.

Lawan was always going to win with or without tinubu support.we have argued severally about who is a better politician between tinubu and obj and I bested you. Apart from being an accidental president twice,obj got nothing on tinubu our next president hopefully...my earlier advice is still pending.anyway,about the dreamy aspect my political dreams most times cones to fruition like in kogi,bayelsa,IMO

APPOINTMENTS: Buhari favoured South more than North – Records

ON MAY 21, 2019

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•South gets 52.4%, North 47.6%


IF the contents of classified records were anything to go by, the perception that President Muhammadu Buhari’s political appointments have unduly favoured the Northern part of the country is not supported by facts.

The classified documents, which contain all high profile political appointment made since Buhari came to power in 2015 show that the appointments have been largely balanced with the president’s North-West zone among the zones holding the shorter end of the stick.

The documents entitled: “Compilation of political appointees, heads of parastatals and agencies” and “Portfolios of ministers, special advisers, senior special assistants and special assistants to the President”, were last updated in December 2018. The documents, the first 43 pages and the second 17 pages, showed, for example, that between 2015 and 2018, while the North-Central topped the number of appointments in Ministries, Departments and Agencies, MDAs, with 102 appointees, the South-West came second with 101 appointees giving the two zones 35 per cent or 203 of the 567 appointments made. The South-South came third with 99 appointments, ahead of the North-West, which came fourth with 94.

The North-East followed with 93, and the South-East is least with 78. In the North-Central, Kogi topped with 22 appointees, followed by Kwara with 21, and the Federal Capital Territory, FCT, Abuja got the least with two appointees. Ogun tops in S-West Ogun State in the South-West, topped countrywide with 31 appointees, more than the MDA appointments for three North-West states – Kebbi 13; Zamfara seven; and Sokoto six – combined. Buhari’s Katsina topped the North-West appointments with 24, while Kaduna and Kano each got 16; and Jigawa, 12. Although, the South-East was bottom, Imo State had the third highest number of MDA appointments countrywide with 29 appointees, while Anambra had 20; and Abia 14. Enugu and Ebonyi had eight and seven respectively. According to the documents, however, the percentage in executive management appointments in MDAs, show 51 per cent in favour of the 19 Northern states, and 49 per cent in favour of the 17 Southern states. And 124 high profile political appointments comprising special advisers, senior special assistants, and special assistants to the president were made out of which 59 were from the Northern region and 65 were from the South. This number excludes 36 ministers who are statutorily appointed one each from a state. Public opinion in the last four years has been hugely dominated by a perception of serious bias in appointments in favour of the North by the Buhari Administration.

The perception was further enhanced with the North producing the heads of the three arms of government, and heads virtually all the security agencies. Sentiments about regional bias in political appointments are sometimes laden with religious undertones, not reflected in the classified documents. The consequential nature of the postings is, also sometimes, a hotly contested issue, with some arguing that a section of the country gets more “juicy” appointments than others. But the appointments also show an interesting pattern. Of the 567 executive appointments in MDAs, 220 or 39 per cent were from states where Buhari lost to Jonathan, far better than public perception suggests. The South-South, the Peoples Democratic Party, PDP stronghold, is number three on the MDAs appointments table with 99 appointees, beaten only by the North-Central and the South-West. For example, in Delta where Buhari lost to Jonathan by 1,162,495 votes and in Rivers State where he lost by 1,417,837 (two states where he suffered his worst losses), the MDA appointments were 23 in Delta and 13 in Rivers respectively, compared with the three core Northern states of Sokoto, Kebbi and Zamfara, with 26 appointments combined, but, total marginal winning votes of 1,454,002 over that of Jonathan. The appointments marginally tilt the balance in favour of the South, with 52.4 per cent against the North’s 47.6 per cent. The relatively higher number of such high-profile appointments from the North made between 2015 and 2016 (Buhari’s early days in office), tended to give the incorrect impression that the North retained an unfair share of the appointments to date. Kebbi, Zamfara, Nasarawa, Plateau, FCT, Bayelsa, Ebonyi have zero appointments of presidential aides and thus will not even appear in the chart. Adamawa and Kano top the list with 11 each; while Oyo follows with 10; Ogun nine; Lagos and Kaduna, eight each; and Katsina, seven. Ekiti and Osun tie at six; Delta and Ondo each have five; while Akwa Ibom and Edo each have four.

A reliable source who refused to be named said: “The President has been severely criticised for so-called lopsided appointments in favour of the North, but the facts hardly support this view.” ‘’Unfortunately, since the public has been misled to believe that the North has this government by the jugular, even those from parts of the North that have been short-changed are forced to suffer in silence. Some states like Zamfara and Kebbi that contributed almost four per cent each to his electoral success in 2015 have been deprived, but they can’t complain.”







Agboriotejoye,I think this is the final nail.up buhari.continue accusing of nepotism unfairly.

tinsel:
I think Amaechi is fast losing his importance in this governemt. The first was the removal of Peterside from NIMSA withoit him evem knowing and now appointing his arch political enemy in this important position.

Just like they did in bayelsa by keeping sylva away through appointment for the party to get a low profile candidate that can be supported, same is being done here to abe.

senatordave1:



I still can't find where you mentioned muazu aliyu but I remember you did.at least you mentioned other northerners like saraki and el rufai as obj boys although this is debatable.

Amechi saying he is unaware does not mean he didn't not endorse it later after all dakuku is more or less a political paperweight.giving Abe such a post could be part of a veiled reconcilatiory move.

Lawan was always going to win with or without tinubu support.we have argued severally about who is a better politician between tinubu and obj and I bested you. Apart from being an accidental president twice,obj got nothing on tinubu our next president hopefully...my earlier advice is still pending.anyway,about the dreamy aspect my political dreams most times cones to fruition like in kogi,bayelsa,IMO

Mtcheew. I keep telling you how dense you are upstairs. Appointing someone into position is not being a lackey. Even the El-Rufai and Saraki have moved on from where OBJ picked them. OBJ hardly has lackeys the way Tinubu does.

It's your opinion to think you beat me in an argument but I doubt it with the way you think. You just read now that Amaechi said he's unaware but you still brought a very stupid suggestion that he endorsed the northern appointment made by his boss later as if he can really do anything about it. Is he going to walk into Buhari's office and ask for a reversal? You still keep linking Abe's appointment to Amaechi when there's nothing on ground to support that. That's why I said your thinking ability is low. You sound more like a burukutu analyst. The facts are starring you in the eyes but you refuse to see them. You've already been nurtured as to the Sylva link but since it doesn't follow your wish you cant take it.
If you like call OBJ an incident, what is glaring is that Tinubu can't lace his boots. The Afdb issue that came up recently, OBJ wrote on behalf of all African leaders to the AfDB board. Where was Tinubu then? Since it's not a shameful matter like bullion van or bolekaja politics he's not welcome to the table. Think about that. OBJ asked for loan forgiveness for African countries from IMF and it was granted almost immediately which taught buhari and his minister for finance zainab to do same. Tinubu's only idea during this pandemic which is to credit people's account using their BVN and to print more money have largely been ignored. Go think on that.

Caseless:
Just like they did in bayelsa by keeping sylva away through appointment for the party to get a low profile candidate that can be supported, same is being done here to abe.

Are you sure you know what you are saying? Sylva nominated the Apc candidate in Balyesa.

senatordave1:
APPOINTMENTS: Buhari favoured South more than North – Records

ON MAY 21, 2019

The documents, the first 43 pages and the second 17 pages, showed, for example, that between 2015 and 2018, while the North-Central topped the number of appointments in Ministries, Departments and Agencies, MDAs, with 102 appointees, the South-West came second with 101 appointees giving the two zones 35 per cent or 203 of the 567 appointments made. The South-South came third with 99 appointments, ahead of the North-West, which came fourth with 94.

The North-East followed with 93, and the South-East is least with 78. In the North-Central, Kogi topped with 22 appointees, followed by Kwara with 21, and the Federal Capital Territory, FCT, Abuja got the least with two appointees. Ogun tops in S-West Ogun State in the South-West, topped countrywide with 31 appointees, more than the MDA appointments for three North-West states – Kebbi 13; Zamfara seven; and Sokoto six – combined. Buhari’s Katsina topped the North-West appointments with 24, while Kaduna and Kano each got 16; and Jigawa, 12. Although, the South-East was bottom, Imo State had the third highest number of MDA appointments countrywide with 29 appointees, while Anambra had 20; and Abia 14. Enugu and Ebonyi had eight and seven respectively. According to the documents, however, the percentage in executive management appointments in MDAs, show 51 per cent in favour of the 19 Northern states, and 49 per cent in favour of the 17 Southern states. And 124 high profile political appointments comprising special advisers, senior special assistants, and special assistants to the president were made out of which 59 were from the Northern region and 65 were from the South. This number excludes 36 ministers who are statutorily appointed one each from a state. Public opinion in the last four years has been hugely dominated by a perception of serious bias in appointments in favour of the North by the Buhari Administration.


Agboriotejoye,I think this is the final nail.up buhari.continue accusing of nepotism unfairly.

Since the article says kogi has the highest number of appointees can you list five appointees from kogi that you know? Kwara also came second. Can you list five from there too?
I'll be waiting.

tinsel:

Are you sure you know what you are saying? Sylva nominated the Apc candidate in Balyesa.

He already knew he'd be made a minister and was already told what to do.

Agboriotejoye:

Since the article says kogi has the highest number of appointees can you list five appointees from kogi that you know? Kwara also came second. Can you list five from there too?
I'll be waiting.

Continue waiting

Agboriotejoye:

Mtcheew. I keep telling you how dense you are upstairs. Appointing someone into position is not being a lackey. Even the El-Rufai and Saraki have moved on from where OBJ picked them. OBJ hardly has lackeys the way Tinubu does.

It's your opinion to think you beat me in an argument but I doubt it with the way you think. You just read now that Amaechi said he's unaware but you still brought a very stupid suggestion that he endorsed the northern appointment made by his boss later as if he can really do anything about it. Is he going to walk into Buhari's office and ask for a reversal? You still keep linking Abe's appointment to Amaechi when there's nothing on ground to support that. That's why I said your thinking ability is low. You sound more like a burukutu analyst. The facts are starring you in the eyes but you refuse to see them. You've already been nurtured as to the Sylva link but since it doesn't follow your wish you cant take it.
If you like call OBJ an incident, what is glaring is that Tinubu can't lace his boots. The Afdb issue that came up recently, OBJ wrote on behalf of all African leaders to the AfDB board. Where was Tinubu then? Since it's not a shameful matter like bullion van or bolekaja politics he's not welcome to the table. Think about that. OBJ asked for loan forgiveness for African countries from IMF and it was granted almost immediately which taught buhari and his minister for finance zainab to do same. Tinubu's only idea during this pandemic which is to credit people's account using their BVN and to print more money have largely been ignored. Go think on that.

Pure obioakpor motor park reasoning....you need help in basic social communication..such a bitter fellow.....tufia.

They are trying to get their rivers state candidate ready for 2023. APC have really started their political move in Rivers State I will also advise Wike not to discuss anything about 2023 election in Rivers State with anybody except the trusted PDP members.

Rubbish.

In all fairness,half of that board should constitute the Niger Deltans.

If the northerners kinda unjustifiably own the customs,the Niger Deltans should own 50% of all petroleum agencies.

Be not decieved, the north is one and they have 3 positions while the 3 southern regions have 1 each.

PTDF
PPMC
PPPRA
DPR
NNPC

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NPA
NIMASA
THESE ARE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT PETROLEUM AND MARITIME AGENCIES ALL LOCATED IN THE SOUTH AND THEY ARE ALL HEADED BY THE NORTH!!!!




SOUTH SHOULD WAKE UP AND DEMAND FOR JUSTICE

senatordave1:


Pure obioakpor motor park reasoning....you need help in basic social communication..such a bitter fellow.....tufia.

You should mind your punctuations. That's basic writing never mind social communication.

Agboriotejoye:

You should mind your punctuations. That's basic writing never mind social communication.

My boy,go and sleep.

senatordave1:


Continue waiting

Of course that's what you'll say cause you really can't.

Let me now school you on the politics behind those appointments. You'll see Ogun state has the highest appointees. That's because in 2017 when Osinbajo was Ag. President, he appointed some aides, a very large number actually who were from the south. These same aides were the ones buhari asked that they be moved to various ministries late last year but were instead sacked by Abba kyari. So you see, they weren't actually appointed by Buhari.

Also note that most of these appointments like I told you on the other threads are domestic appointments meaning they would have been forwarded by those people they're to work with. They have no powers or clout like an agency head.

Take Femi adesina for example. He's a special adviser but his office does not have its own budget neither can he do any recruitment. Yet he works directly with president. Compare that with an Hameed Ali in customs who may not see the president in a year. He has a budget to his office, and to the agency as a whole which means he can draw funds from two purses. He has powers over imports and can even recruit all his village to customs if he so wishes. I hope you can understand the difference now. Save this so you don't come shouting that you best me again in this matter.

Learn. Buhari can appoint 100 special assistants from the south and just 20 agency heads from the north. The north will still be better off because the 20 can employ 200 each from the north to the agencies they head while the special assistants can employ 0.
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