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IGR As Development by OruExpress: 5:58pm On Jun 02, 2020
Nigerians. When the bad arrives, you will blame the government without knowing the role you played in creating it.

Please be careful of connecting IGR to Development. IGR is the proceed of taxation. The higher the rate you tax the more IGR.


Someone posted that Enugu has a higher IGR than Anambra despite Anambra having Onitsha and Nnewi.

Peter Obi deliberately kept the Anambra tax rate low to encourage business growth and ease on home owners and renters. And it worked. It also helps to attract business and keep it from leaving.

Whatever you call great your leaders will do. Then when they do it, you'll say they're evil because you dont want to take responsibility for speaking without maturity. When you people said Jonathan was too soft, Buhari came to be hard. When you said youths were all yahoo boys and girls were all prostitutes, government brought SARS to fix your problem.

Do not enter the trap of telling yourself and your future that IGR = development. As you see life as expensive today, wait until the cold war to compare IGRs you're triggering becomes public policy.

There are many ways to measure development and it has never happened in the history of man that the amount of tax collected is development or the improvement of public welfare and living standard. You people told the world that pictorial development is important and today all your governors do is take pictures and plaster their faces and names on low quality work. Some have started importing fake palm trees to meet you standard of pictorial governance.

Stop invoking something you cannot afford to sustain. The future governor of your state might be reading these ignorant threads and none of you can afford an increase in the cost of living in a declining economy. Be careful.

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 6:08pm On Jun 02, 2020
You must first have revenue to tax though, and without taxation, where would your government get money for development of the state? And that's apart from the fact that we all know that whoever pays the piper calls the tune.

You are more likely to be concerned how your tax is spent if you pay it, otherwise, your government is not responsible to you!

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Re: IGR As Development by MetaPhysical: 7:05pm On Jun 02, 2020
OruExpress:
Nigerians. When the bad arrives, you will blame the government without knowing the role you played in creating it.

Please be careful of connecting IGR to Development. IGR is the proceed of taxation. The higher the rate you tax the more IGR.


Someone posted that Enugu has a higher IGR than Anambra despite Anambra having Onitsha and Nnewi.

Peter Obi deliberately kept the Anambra tax rate low to encourage business growth and ease on home owners and renters. And it worked. It also helps to attract business and keep it from leaving.

Whatever you call great your leaders will do. Then when they do it, you'll say they're evil because you dont want to take responsibility for speaking without maturity. When you people said Jonathan was too soft, Buhari came to be hard. When you said youths were all yahoo boys and girls were all prostitutes, government brought SARS to fix your problem.

Do not enter the trap of telling yourself and your future that IGR = development. As you see life as expensive today, wait until the cold war to compare IGRs you're triggering becomes public policy.

There are many ways to measure development and it has never happened in the history of man that the amount of tax collected is development or the improvement of public welfare and living standard. You people told the world that pictorial development is important and today all your governors do is take pictures and plaster their faces and names on low quality work. Some have started importing fake palm trees to meet you standard of pictorial governance.

Stop invoking something you cannot afford to sustain. The future governor of your state might be reading these ignorant threads and none of you can afford an increase in the cost of living in a declining economy. Be careful.

In the history of civilization, taxation has always been an input to development. Societies fought wars and expanded their frontiers so they could expand tax revenue.

Where is this nonsense you are talking about coming from?

IGR is simply a designation to partition the source of income. You can call it Domestric Receipts or Domestic Revenue, its all window dressing....at end of the day it is still tax.

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Re: IGR As Development by lawani: 7:39pm On Jun 02, 2020
IGR is proportional to development.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 7:41pm On Jun 02, 2020
lawani:
IGR is proportional to development.

It's true, continuously lying to oneself might make you start believing your own lies.

Kontinu.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 7:43pm On Jun 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


In the history of civilization, taxation has always been an input to development. Societies fought wars and expanded their frontiers so they could expand tax revenue.

Where is this nonsense you are talking about coming from?

IGR is simply a designation to partition the source of income. You can call it Domestric Receipts or Domestic Revenue, its all window dressing....at end of the day it is still tax.

Supposing I decide to keep my area tax free, does it mean the other area who are taxing their people to death are better?

Is this not just about measuring kiniko?

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Re: IGR As Development by MetaPhysical: 7:58pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


Supposing I decide to keep my area tax free, does it mean the other area who are taxing their people to death are better?

Is this not just about measuring kiniko?

If you keep your area tax free you will soon end up with refugees migrating to the are that taxes its residents.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:00pm On Jun 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


If you keep your area tax free you will soon end up with refugees migrating to the are that taxes its residents.

End up in an area where people are taxed to death? Not logical at all.

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Re: IGR As Development by Nobody: 8:01pm On Jun 02, 2020
Is either anambra people are not paying tax or government officials are embezzling it, either is bad for development of a state
Re: IGR As Development by lawani: 8:04pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


End up in an area where people are taxed to death? Not logical at all.
tax paying nations are efficient and have high HDI. Why do you think people rush to US and Europe?.
Re: IGR As Development by MetaPhysical: 8:14pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


End up in an area where people are taxed to death? Not logical at all.

Taxed to death is illogical use of word. Nobody has ever died from taxation.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:35pm On Jun 02, 2020
lawani:
tax paying nations are efficient and have high HDI. Why do you think people rush to US and Europe?.

That's US and Europe, people that worked for all their lives in Nigeria are still languishing in penury while their pensions were eaten by politicians.

Same will always happen to your tax and IGR.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:37pm On Jun 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Taxed to death is illogical use of word. Nobody has ever died from taxation.

Come off it friend!

People have been taxed to business death in Lagos. Lots of people ran away while those who have no idea are rushing in because of the glamour which they will never enjoy.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:41pm On Jun 02, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Is either anambra people are not paying tax or government officials are embezzling it, either is bad for development of a state

Well, the citizens are not complaining about that. And if you know the knowledge of he technocrats that have been running the state into serious profit in the last 14 years, you will want to emulate them.

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Re: IGR As Development by MetaPhysical: 8:45pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


Come off it friend!

People have been taxed to business death in Lagos. Lots of people ran away while those who have no idea are rushing in because of the glamour which they will never enjoy.

You are mixing two distinct ideas and confusing both.

What is your grievance, is it with tax generally or the insolvency of socio economics in Nigerian society?
Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:48pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


Supposing I decide to keep my area tax free, does it mean the other area who are taxing their people to death are better?
First, I'm going to assume your area democratically elects its rulers.

So why assume you would all be so stupid that you would elect rulers who would "tax you to death"? Are the majority of the people living in your area so brain dead that they would not rather elect rulers who would tax them moderately and reasonably?

And secondly, If you keep your area tax free, please tell where you plan to get the money to fix your communual roads so you all can move around easily, and build gutters so your own collective poo don't stink you all to death, and fund the schools so your area is not full of ignorant people who would elect rulers who would tax you all to death?

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:50pm On Jun 02, 2020
MinorityOpinion:
Is either anambra people are not paying tax or government officials are embezzling it, either is bad for development of a state
I blame the people if its the latter.

If they are paying tax, they should monitor how their hard earned money is spent, and if they don't they are irresponsible.

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:52pm On Jun 02, 2020
MetaPhysical:


You are mixing two distinct ideas and confusing both.

What is your grievance, is it with tax generally or the insolvency of socio economics in Nigerian society?

What I am trying explain is that Nigeria is too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now. The excessive taxes will only backfire because infrastructure are not improving commensurately with the high IGR being declared by states.

Can you relate the increasing IGR to the quality life.

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:54pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


That's US and Europe, people that worked for all their lives in Nigeria are still languishing in penury while their pensions were eaten by politicians.

Same will always happen to your tax and IGR.
I agree. So long as you continue to be irresponsible and don't monitor how your hard earned money that is collected as tax is spent.

The British have a name for your attitude. The call it Taxation Without Representation, and they shed blood to gain that representation.

Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 8:56pm On Jun 02, 2020
SLAP44:


What I am trying explain is that Nigeria is too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now.
Please rephrase!

We Nigerians are too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now.

Those who tax us do not come from Mars. We Nigerians elect them from amongst our corrupt selves!

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Re: IGR As Development by SLAP44: 8:59pm On Jun 02, 2020
budaatum:

Please rephrase!

We Nigerians are too corrupt to be taxing anyone highly for now.

Those who tax us do not come from Mars. We Nigerians elect them from amongst our corrupt selves!

Bruvs, if you think your votes count, then you have another think coming.

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Re: IGR As Development by OruExpress: 2:06pm On Jun 03, 2020
budaatum:
You must first have revenue to tax though, and without taxation, where would your government get money for development of the state? And that's apart from the fact that we all know that whoever pays the piper calls the tune.

You are more likely to be concerned how your tax is spent if you pay it, otherwise, your government is not responsible to you!

I make 200 you make 50. You tax at 50% I tax at 10%. you have higher IGR.

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Re: IGR As Development by OruExpress: 2:08pm On Jun 03, 2020
MetaPhysical:


If you keep your area tax free you will soon end up with refugees migrating to the are that taxes its residents.

lol this is the polar opposite of how the world works

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 2:10pm On Jun 03, 2020
OruExpress:


I make 200 you make 50. You tax at 50% I tax at 10%. you have higher IGR.
I'm absolutely certain you are smart and intelligent enough to move your business where my 50% tax can't touch you.

How much IGR would I get then?

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Re: IGR As Development by OruExpress: 2:12pm On Jun 03, 2020
MetaPhysical:


In the history of civilization, taxation has always been an input to development. Societies fought wars and expanded their frontiers so they could expand tax revenue.

Where is this nonsense you are talking about coming from?

IGR is simply a designation to partition the source of income. You can call it Domestric Receipts or Domestic Revenue, its all window dressing....at end of the day it is still tax.

Lol its not domestic revenue, its government revenue. Government revenue is not domestic revenue.

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 2:17pm On Jun 03, 2020
SLAP44:


Bruvs, if you think your votes count, then you have another think coming.
My vote does count! And it counts even moreso if you think your vote doesn't count, especially if you would have casted your vote for my opposition. In which case, trust me when I say I am spending a large portion of my resources to ensure you continue to reason as you do so my candidate can continue to rule over you!

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Re: IGR As Development by History555: 2:21pm On Jun 03, 2020
budaatum:

I blame the people if its the latter.

If they are paying tax, they should monitor how their hard earned money is spent, and if they don't they are irresponsible.

Tell us which state are you from or which state you pay your tax
Secondly tell us how you monitor the tax you pay so that we can learn from you

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Re: IGR As Development by MetaPhysical: 2:27pm On Jun 03, 2020
OruExpress:


lol this is the polar opposite of how the world works

Tax in America is more than minimum wage in Nigeria. So why is America so inviting to us?

Slap44 is a confused mammal. His issue is not tax. He has problem with wastage but choosed to attack tax.

SE is insolvent as we speak. We dont need to look at their accounting records to find out, the volume and direction of manpower out of SE, most of them permanently, is good indicator that the states in SE are helpless.

Federal govt stopped payment to Lagos State for many years and it survived. That cannot happen anywhere in SE with similar outcome.

The states in SE subsist on fg, therefore if fg fails SE will fail along.

To be self subsistent they will need a way to self fund and this must come through tax.

However, the people are led to believe that they are in a better position as non tax states than other states where citizens pay tax.

I am justified when I call SE people a forest specie. grin

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Re: IGR As Development by budaatum: 2:48pm On Jun 03, 2020
History555:


Tell us which state are you from or which state you pay your tax
Secondly tell us how you monitor the tax you pay so that we can learn from you.
I'm from Osun State. I pay tax on my income there and also where I live, which is not in Osun State.

I get an annual record of expenditure from the tax authority where I live. And tax I pay on what I earn in Osun State is seen spent where I pay it, as minimal as it, is since my state is rather incompetent in tax collection as seen by our very low IGR.

And since my state is incompetent at collecting tax, I tax myself on my state's behalf and spend it on behalf of my local authority and keep records of my self imposed taxation.

To be honest with you, I think my state is afraid to tax me properly since they see what I spend my self imposed tax on.
Re: IGR As Development by History555: 2:51pm On Jun 03, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Tax in America is more than minimum wage in Nigeria. So why is America so inviting to us?

Slap44 is a confused mammal. His issue is not tax. He has problem with wastage but choosed to attack tax.

SE is insolvent as we speak. We dont need to look at their accounting records to find out, the volume and direction of manpower out of SE, most of them permanently, is good indicator that the states in SE are helpless.

Federal govt stopped payment to Lagos State for many years and it survived. That cannot happen anywhere in SE with similar outcome.

The states in SE subsist on fg, therefore if fg fails SE will fail along.

To be self subsistent they will need a way to self fund and this must come through tax.

However, the people are led to believe that they are in a better position as non tax states than other states where citizens pay tax.

I am justified when I call SE people a forest specie. grin

Igbo obsession disorder (IOD)

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Re: IGR As Development by History555: 2:52pm On Jun 03, 2020
MetaPhysical:


Tax in America is more than minimum wage in Nigeria. So why is America so inviting to us?

Slap44 is a confused mammal. His issue is not tax. He has problem with wastage but choosed to attack tax.

SE is insolvent as we speak. We dont need to look at their accounting records to find out, the volume and direction of manpower out of SE, most of them permanently, is good indicator that the states in SE are helpless.

Federal govt stopped payment to Lagos State for many years and it survived. That cannot happen anywhere in SE with similar outcome.

The states in SE subsist on fg, therefore if fg fails SE will fail along.

To be self subsistent they will need a way to self fund and this must come through tax.

However, the people are led to believe that they are in a better position as non tax states than other states where citizens pay tax.

I am justified when I call SE people a forest specie. grin

Igbo obsession disorder (IOD) grin grin

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