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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:23am On Jun 03, 2020
Baliv254:


More tantrums
Read the first page of this thread..
Its Nigerian that think they are better, this thread has destroyed your fake pride


We are certainly not the best in africa but I can tell you for free that we are better than Kenya and we pride over that anytime ,anyday...it's ain't fake but genuine grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:24am On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
He knows nothing about the oil market

dont be surprised

I just Dy look am grin.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 11:24am On Jun 03, 2020
pacretus:
Stop posting thes things,in kazikazi's voice ' they are engineering stuff' Kenyans don't like to hear, it breaks their heart. grin grin grin

Lo grin..
I want that bitter heart broken further grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:25am On Jun 03, 2020
In Kenya - a great deal of that is secret - Security Committee swear an oath to secrecy and all the records are redacted. The media do get an hand of them once in a while - but generally some items are redacted or hidden even for the audit or parliament.

There is a great deal of corruption in the entire Kenya security sector because of this.

We need to get to South Africa advanced level.

jl115:
interesting.... I can literally download the entire SANDF financial statements anytime and see exactly what our budget is spent on everything from salaries to acquisitions.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:29am On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:

I don't have to google sh1t to know that a defence force should be audited like any other institution.

The SANDF for one does not have a black budget.... Anything that can not be traced is listed as wasteful expenditure!!

This is how it works in SA anyway!
only quote me when you got the brain . I Will be wasting time with an unexposed idiot. I am learning nothing from you idiot.

Millitary is an enigmatic organisation not the one you run in your sitting room.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:35am On Jun 03, 2020
rvp2018:
In your 60 yrs of existence...half was under military dictatorship. You're known for being better than Nigeria.

The public KNOWS and ought to know how the taxes is spent.

What is a secret is how the money is spent....but everyone knows what the Ministry of Defence, Internal Security, and various security organs have been allocated.

yawn. grin. It is nauseating educating an idiot like you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:37am On Jun 03, 2020
National Security which is referring to BNI receives 200M dollars as allocation from Parliament.
BNI receives an addition 200 million dollars from the Ministry of interior as a share the that ministry budget break down.

The rest of your write up is nonsense that does not deserve a reply.

grin grin grin

so you see how small your CIA is
rvp2018:
Your total security budget that I saw was 550M Ghana cedis. That is like 100M dollars. You're hidding behind black budget because we know you spend very little in security.

So much 5,000 Chinese gangs have invaded your country and carted away gold worth 5B dollars every year for 10yrs.

That is a whopping 50B dollars gone to Chinese gangs. They go back to China and build their cities with your money. And then Anglo Ashanti is doing the rest...I doubt you have intelligence enough to figure out the Jews gangs.

At least South Africa used their gold to build Johannesburg - but look at Ghana - your biggest town is hideous.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:38am On Jun 03, 2020
You missed the discussion

no one is referring to the defence force but Clandestine Security activities.

jl115:

I don't have to google sh1t to know that a defence force should be audited like any other institution.

The SANDF for one does not have a black budget.... Anything that can not be traced is listed as wasteful expenditure!!

This is how it works in SA anyway!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:41am On Jun 03, 2020
Here, the military does not make any purchases

They make recommendation to government and government purchase everything they need, separate of their budgetary allocation.

When an audit is carried out, Government is the institution that is audited based on their spending
rvp2018:
Public knows. Parliament knows a lot more. Parliament sub committee on security (who have to take a oath) get to know nearly all of it. The defence ministry and president obviously know everything.

The auditor-general is free to audit the entire budget.

Military generals get indicted for corruption and are fired.

For example: Auditor General Edward Ouko has queried the purchase of 32 Armoured Personnel Carriers (APCs) by the Kenya Defence Forces at Sh1.1 billion.


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 11:45am On Jun 03, 2020
Except no looting takes place because recurrent and operational expenses are already know and it is based on which budget are allocated.

Parliamentary Account Committee carried out their own audit to make sure all monies allocated were used according to law and for the purposes they were allocated.

Parliament duties ends there, they cant touch the Clandestine services.

jl115:
seems like an excuse to loot state funds if you ask me!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:52am On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
Here, the Auditor General has no authority in any military or secret Police matters.


Banana Republic things. lipsrsealed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:58am On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:
As i did with @gallivant I'm giving you a chance to leave with your dignity in place........ wink

And yes I do have the original photo!!

I want the photo, not lectures. wink My dignity cannot be threatened by an armchair general from westkaap.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 11:59am On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
National Security which is referring to BNI receives 200M dollars as allocation from Parliament.
BNI receives an addition 200 million dollars from the Ministry of interior as a share the that ministry budget break down.

The rest of your write up is nonsense that does not deserve a reply.

grin grin grin

so you see how small your CIA is

Lol what's this BINI you keep mentioning. Everyone knows Ghana has no military.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:07pm On Jun 03, 2020
vaxx:
only quote me when you got the brain . I Will be wasting time with an unexposed idiot. I am learning nothing from you idiot.

Millitary is an enigmatic organisation not the one you run in your sitting room.
cool story bro!! Keep making excuses like its a Black Budget!! All you are doing is making excuses for corruption.

At least I know exactly where my tax money is going with regards to military expenditure.... And I also know if and when they waste my money

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:10pm On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
You missed the discussion

no one is referring to the defence force but Clandestine Security activities.

As I've stated before the entire sandf budget is transparent and audited... Things like secret/black budgets don't exist here

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:11pm On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
Except no looting takes place because recurrent and operational expenses are already know and it is based on which budget are allocated.

Parliamentary Account Committee carried out their own audit to make sure all monies allocated were used according to law and for the purposes they were allocated.

Parliament duties ends there, they cant touch the Clandestine services.

If that budget is not audited how do you know its not looted?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by davefurn: 12:20pm On Jun 03, 2020
BeforeJuly:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.
Kenya is a single city republic.

We've all watched countless YouTube Vids on their second city and honestly Mombasa isn't worth it man.
Their government focuses on a single city grin...well who will blame them, they need more tourists
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
You are misunderstanding the argument you yourself raised.

You said the breakdown of your security budget is only know by parliament.
And you earlier said your CIA budget is 200M (meaning its made up since you dont know what is allocated to them)

And I told you that, the budget for BNI which is the civilian arm of Ghana Secret Police is more than your CIA budget which you made up.
And that our secret police itself has a black budget.
Parliament knows about the black budget but they cant break it down.

When they count democracies in Africa, Kenya is not part because you guys practise a flawed democracy.

Hope you know that secret police is meant for political opponents. Secret police are intelligence, security or police agencies that engage in covert operations against a government's political opponents and dissidents. Secret police organizations are characteristic of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes. If that's why you don't reveal your secret police budget then we all understand the banana nature of your Republic. You should change your secret police name to Gestapo.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 12:39pm On Jun 03, 2020
Baliv254:


More tantrums
Read the first page of this thread..
Its Nigerian that think they are better, this thread has destroyed your fake pride

No bro.
You are always 'ahead' and always giving everyone 'sleepless nights' in everything.

Don't you people hear yourselves?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 12:40pm On Jun 03, 2020
davefurn:

Their government focuses on a single city grin...well who will blame them, they need more tourists
Good for them.

But they should always try not to over blow their worth.

It's there for all to see.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:41pm On Jun 03, 2020
TayserMahri:


I want the photo, not lectures. wink My dignity cannot be threatened by an armchair general from westkaap.
I look forward to your reply grin grin grin grin

I added the photoshoped photo for you to compare:

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:49pm On Jun 03, 2020
TayserMahri:


Hope you know that secret police is meant for political opponents. Secret police are intelligence, security or police agencies that engage in covert operations against a government's political opponents and dissidents. Secret police organizations are characteristic of authoritarian and totalitarian regimes. If that's why you don't reveal your secret police budget then we all understand the banana nature of your Republic. You should change your secret police name to Gestapo.
sorry kiddo
Here secret police are not meant for political opponents.
This is not Kenya. grin grin

Here, they are separate from all those institutions.
Their activities border on national security.


If Britain is a totalitarian regime them I will say that Ghana is happy to associate itself with good totalitarian regimes like Britain and Germany were secret police don't brutalised citizens like the Banana republic of Kenya.

grin grin

Childish children who knows nothing about state apparatus

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:53pm On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:
I look forward to your reply grin grin grin grin

I added the photoshoped photo for you to compare:

You took the kenyan photo and photoshopped it. Share the direct link to your supposedly original photo. Reverse searching both of those images takes you to kdf. None to yours. Your days of denial are truly numbered. wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:56pm On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:

If that budget is not audited how do you know its not looted?
looting cannot happen in any part of the Ghanaian state apparatus.

You can raise issues about value for money but not looting, it basically can't happen.

Only the president of Ghana, by a legal instrument, can call for an investigation into the activities of any part of the clandestine institutions by setting up a committee of judges from the supreme court.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:57pm On Jun 03, 2020
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:58pm On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:

As I've stated before the entire sandf budget is transparent and audited... Things like secret/black budgets don't exist here
sandf is not a clandestine institution.

The entire budgetary spending of Ghana military can be found on the military high command website.


Here, a black budget is necessary for national security.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:59pm On Jun 03, 2020
Just30:
sorry kiddo
Here secret police are not meant for political opponents.
This is not Kenya. grin grin

Here, they are separate from all those institutions.
Their activities border on national security.


If Britain is a totalitarian regime them I will say that Ghana is happy to associate itself with good totalitarian regimes like Britain and Germany were secret police don't brutalised citizens like the Banana republic of Kenya.

grin grin

Childish children who knows nothing about state apparatus

As always you know nothing. British secret service is not the same as secret police. They dont have secret police. The Germans too no longer have a secret police since the Fuhrer's Gestapo. Ghana is the only modern day banana republic with a secret police. Read some of your history and see that Nkrumah was the one who used Ghana secret police to intimidate opponents.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 12:59pm On Jun 03, 2020
TayserMahri:


You took the kenyan photo and photoshopped it. Share the direct link to your supposedly original photo. Reverse searching both of those images takes you to kdf. None to yours. Your days of denial are truly numbered. wink
Jeezis Im must be good at photoshop then since my effort looks more real than the Kenyan attempt!! grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:59pm On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:
cool story bro!! Keep making excuses like its a Black Budget!! All you are doing is making excuses for corruption.

At least I know exactly where my tax money is going with regards to military expenditure.... And I also know if and when they waste my money
corruption in not an issue here especially in association to misappropriation of funds.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
TayserMahri:


Lol what's this BINI you keep mentioning. Everyone knows Ghana has no military.
see another dumb dumb

The conversation is not on military.

Your friend rvp2018 was busy talking about your CIA grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
jl115:
Jeezis Im must be good at photoshop then since my effort looks more real than the Kenyan attempt!! grin grin grin

Just take us to the original wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jl115: 1:02pm On Jun 03, 2020
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