TheGoodJoe:


Primary aim in 19Kpodondo.

Do you see Guardiola, Klopp, Arteta, Bosz, Sarri, Emery, Tuchel, Ten Haag etc signing a striker with the primary aim to score goals? Now, more is required from strikers than just to score goals. Thus, Kanu trumps.

Koboko99:


How can you compare boys who were born in England and either moved from academies of EPL clubs to the first team or went on loan to championship club with boys born in a different continent who do not have the same footballing education (most of the played street football for the better parts of their lives) and opportunities.

Some of these English boys joined top EPL academies as early as age 5 and have spent over 10 years by the time they went for the u17. Compare them to our boys, some were discovered playing street football or sand pitches.

They have to work twice as hard to get opportunities while battling with issues like loneliness, environmental change, racism, unequal chances at that age in order to make it in Europe.

TheGoodJoe:


Who is better than Babayaro? I will like to know who you think is a better left back than Babayaro.

No one doubts Yekini's prowess but in the modern game today, most of the strikers, from Aguero, Benzema, Firmino, Suarez, Lewandowski etc need to have the ability to play as a creative attack midfielder.

Forget about Bias, Yekini does not have that ability. Yekini is not also the kind of striker to drop into pockets of spaces in the wings to give passes. Sorry but Kanu trumps Yekini hands down when it concerns this.

Kog45:
Sir,Kanu as Super Eagles all time striker?

A striker with 5 Afcon and 3 World Cup appearances without a goal can never be eagles all time striker.

I think Guardiola have Aguero doing it good for him with great goal ratio.

If not Aguero would have been warming the bench for the likes of Gabriel Jesus.

TheGoodJoe:


I think komekn is yet to address the bolded.

Kog45:
My man na you fall my hand o.

Abi no be Chidiebere Nwakili again that was invited by Rohr,his invitation was discussed here extensively.

safarigirl:
England did not qualify for the U-17 World Cup in 2013, so, it is not likely we will find players from that crop doing much today. You can barely even find the team list online.


However, they were present at the tournament two years later, Trent-Alexander Arnold, Chris Willock and Tom Davies, seen to be the only players from the England 2015 U-17 team that have actual football careers, the others are playing for mediocre teams; I checked, to be sure.

Of those three, we all know, only TAA is EXCEPTIONAL. The likes of Tomori and these new age English players we have been bamboozled with so far, were never considered good enough for these U-17 team's.

andrewbaba44:


Agreed

Kanu just get big name sha

TheGoodJoe:


Who is better than Babayaro? I will like to know who you think is a better left back than Babayaro.

No one doubts Yekini's prowess but in the modern game today, most of the strikers, from Aguero, Benzema, Firmino, Suarez, Lewandowski etc need to have the ability to play as a creative attack midfielder.

Forget about Bias, Yekini does not have that ability. Yekini is not also the kind of striker to drop into pockets of spaces in the wings to give passes. Sorry but Kanu trumps Yekini hands down when it concerns this.

andrewbaba44:


I have been readin that Traore news sha

I don’t know if it’s true ,but his price tag is 70 million ,Lol ,so I am not sure he will end up at Liverpool to warm the bench

safarigirl:


When you want to make biased comparisons, you don't consider these factors.

When it is time to talk about the progression of black youth players in England, in comparison to some of their white counterparts, or black coaches in the EPL, that is when we will remember the English system is racist and black boys have to work twice as hard, to secure the same spots their white counterparts would.

It's all about context.

do4luv14:



But nah only once, and him no even play, abi ah dey miss something?


Komkn post say over and again, neaning continual, if nah Kelechi ah go understand,

but Chidiebere, omo elder ah still dey wonderment oo

Icon4s:


Kanu was a great player, even though I would not agree to making him the top striker in the "all time best 11".

Personally I don't see Kanu as a CF. He was actually not much used as a CF. He was more of a supporting Striker (what we called number 8 those days). Kanu may not have scored many goals for the Super Eagles but his contributions to the overall play of the team was immense.

He was involved in build ups to several goals, he gave us several free kicks in dangerous positions and created a few penalties too.

In today's football Kanu would have been best played as a "number 10".

Icon4s:


Kanu was a great player, even though I would not agree to making him the top striker in the "all time best 11".

Personally I don't see Kanu as a CF. He was actually not much used as a CF. He was more of a supporting Striker (what we called number 8 those days). Kanu may not have scored many goals for the Super Eagles but his contributions to the overall play of the team was immense.

He was involved in build ups to several goals, he gave us several free kicks in dangerous positions and created a few penalties too.

In today's football Kanu would have been best played as a "number 10".

Danielnino00:


But that's a super eagles best XI...it's not an XI ranking players based on their abilities..

Kog45:
Sir,Kanu as Super Eagles all time striker?

A striker with 5 Afcon and 3 World Cup appearances without a goal can never be eagles all time striker.

I think Guardiola have Aguero doing it good for him with great goal ratio.

If not Aguero would have been warming the bench for the likes of Gabriel Jesus.

Kog45:
My man you are mixing things up.

The context here is on Chidi Nwakili invitation and not about him playing for eagles.

Kelechi Nwakili never got a call up from Rohr but Chidiebere Nwakili did,so why saying I fall your hand when I said Rohr goofed on Chidi invitation.

I even went extra mile to post Chidi with Mikel pics in camp to tell that I know what am saying

Do not forget that any invitation is an opportunity for any player to play for Super Eagles.

Icon4s:


Kanu was a great player, even though I would not agree to making him the top striker in the "all time best 11".

Personally I don't see Kanu as a CF. He was actually not much used as a CF. He was more of a supporting Striker (what we called number 8 those days). Kanu may not have scored many goals for the Super Eagles but his contributions to the overall play of the team was immense.

He was involved in build ups to several goals, he gave us several free kicks in dangerous positions and created a few penalties too.

In today's football Kanu would have been best played as a "number 10".

Danielnino00:


It's as fake as "Pepe to Liverpool" rumours of last year .
Wetin we wan use am do ??

Timo Werner is our priority abeg....

Icon4s:


Kanu was a great player, even though I would not agree to making him the top striker in the "all time best 11".

Personally I don't see Kanu as a CF. He was actually not much used as a CF. He was more of a supporting Striker (what we called number 8 those days). Kanu may not have scored many goals for the Super Eagles but his contributions to the overall play of the team was immense.

He was involved in build ups to several goals, he gave us several free kicks in dangerous positions and created a few penalties too.

In today's football Kanu would have been best played as a "number 10".

TheGoodJoe:


That is the point of modern day strikers. It is not about leading the strike line but bringing them to play. We have less creative attack midfielders because it is now a space controlled by creative strikers.

Below is a major requirement of modern day Hitmen. Tell me who you would prefer on the ball in these situations. Kanu or Yekini.


Below are Lewandowski and Haaland

TheGoodJoe:


Yes, but, the philosophy comes first. Gabriel Jesus is no where a lethal finisher than Aguero. Guardiola still left Aguero on the bench for numerous occasions until Aguero assimilated the philosophy and to me, plays it better than Gabby Jesus (except intensity and defending). So Yekini might have the lethal goals but no way can he bring the philosophy to the table, which is paramount and which Kanu understands and plays it to the end.

TheGoodJoe:


That is the point of modern day strikers. It is not about leading the strike line but bringing them to play. We have less creative attack midfielders because it is now a space controlled by creative strikers.

Below is a major requirement of modern day Hitmen. Tell me who you would prefer on the ball in these situations. Kanu or Yekini.





Below are Lewandowski and Haaland

Icon4s:


Firstly, let's remember the argument is about which of Kanu or Yekini is our all time best striker.

We are not talking about whose style of play best suits the modern day game.
Good enough both players are no longer playing.

And like I will always say, the modern day game has become so dynamic. Averagely a Very good players should be able to play up to 3 positions comfortable to be able to remain relevant to the coaches' tactics and continue to make squad list.

There are some games you play that you need your striker to play as an old fashioned number 9. There are certain games you play and you chose to adopt a false 9 option.
There are others that you play and your striker does the ball holding and distributing job.

Looking at the way Kanu played, if you have him in a today's team, it will be a waste of resources to have him as an Old number 9 kind of Striker. He is more of a holder and distributor which also agrees with your assertion.

But again the argument is not about now. It is about who deserves to be our " all time best number 9". That person is Yekini

komekn:


I am a bit puzzled by your proposition.

Because all the U20 boys, l have mentioned are also the same England U17 of the same era

It's quite remarkable that a huge portion of them are Nigeria origin players. The 4/5 years time span you are talking about is with us NOW.

Tega Abrahams
Ovie Ejaria
Tega Onomah
Ademola Lookman
Fikayo Tomori
Seyi Ojo

I have not added all the other English players like Mason mount, Reece James, Calvert-Lewin, Lewis Cooke, Ainsley Maitland, Dominic Solanke, James Gomez, Kyle Walker-Peters, James Maddison, we could also add Adarabioyo and Iorfa who all fall into the same age grade.

All these players have come from the same age U17 / 20 grade teams and era you attempt to make comparison with.

So what is exactly is your point ❓ Because your comparison fails as these boys have Alll gone very far ahead in thier careers playing in the best clubs in the world.

Look at Yahaya, Eze and Nwakali and you are trying to make comparison, with these players mentioned above.

do4luv14:


Now, this is why you were called an elder,am here

thanks for the correction,

sir, ah no go fall ya hand again

TheGoodJoe:


Who is better than Babayaro? I will like to know who you think is a better left back than Babayaro.

No one doubts Yekini's prowess but in the modern game today, most of the strikers, from Aguero, Benzema, Firmino, Suarez, Lewandowski etc need to have the ability to play as a creative attack midfielder.

Forget about Bias, Yekini does not have that ability. Yekini is not also the kind of striker to drop into pockets of spaces in the wings to give passes. Sorry but Kanu trumps Yekini hands down when it concerns this.

TheGoodJoe:


Primary aim in 19Kpodondo.

Do you see Guardiola, Klopp, Arteta, Bosz, Sarri, Emery, Tuchel, Ten Haag etc signing a striker with the primary aim to score goals? Now, more is required from strikers than just to score goals. Thus, Kanu trumps.

andrewbaba44:


Agreed

Kanu just get big name sha

jihday:
Nacho can throw passes better than Jesus but we know who Pep picked, Eto is faster and can play on the wings better than Zlatan but we know who Lord Pep chose, Lucas Barrios can play behind the striker and on the wings but I've never seen Lewy play either positions but when push came to shove Klopp wasted no time in dumping Barrios for Lewandowski. See at the end of the day scoring goals is the most important thing for a striker, no sensible coach can put Kanu before Yekini he'll rather shop for a striker who can score goals and still find pocket abi whatever you want him to find