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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:29pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: Not true. You think Van Gaal was a fool starting Kanu in games? What of Kanu scoring a hat-trick against Chelsea. You think it was unprolific and sluggish performance that gave him that? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:30pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
elyte89: It is not about body frame but intellect and technique. You need to think out the space, read the movements of opposition and team mates and make the right choices with the final ball. This Kanu shows far more ability. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:30pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: Even the likes of Yakubu,Musa and Martins will rank ahead of Kanu as far as the super eagles was concerned... No disrespect to Papilo,but that's the truth.. he is more famous for his exploit at club level and at the Olympics... 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:31pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe:If Jesus was banging in goals like Aguero, by now Aguero would have been turning out for a club in Spain or Argentina. If klopp had Martial and Pepe on the wings instead of Salah and Mane I can assure you that Firmino would have been replaced. As a striker if you like drop deep to the keeper's box run the length and breadth of the pitch if you can't get goals you'll go and kiss the bench that is a fact because football is a goal oriented sport, no goal no trophy |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:33pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Icon4s: Thank you and I accept the misconception. However, my point remains, if we are to build a team today from our historical players, who will best suit to lead the line. Your bolded explains it and it points at Kanu. All time Super Eagles striker is Yekini but Kanu's philosophy suits the modern game ahead of Yekini. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:35pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe:Hitting purple patch and being actually good are different things sha, Kanu didn't even hit 50 goals for arsenal. 6 Afcon 3 WC no goal, 12 goals in 86 games, how else is he supposed to tell you he's not prolific? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:38pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Danielnino00:There's no way you can convince anybody that Kanu is a better striker than Yakubu and Martins, I'm not saying he's a bad player or but not as great as we love to speak of him 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 12:42pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe:Wait o, in the 90s and early 2000s Wenger was one of the best coaches in the world, a very technical one, this drop deep and play from the wing you mentioned wenger did it with Henry and Dennis Bergkamp but the same Wenger hardly gave Kanu adequate game time, turned him to super sub or do you think wenger was a fool for always benching him? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:45pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Danielnino00: I think the only striker better than Yakubu in eagles jersey is Yekini |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:46pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: Philosophy bawo Baba you can twist things |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Utonwanne(m): 12:54pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: Sir which one be 'until Aguero assimilated the philosophy'? Guardiola bought Gabriel and mistook him for De Lima. To right-prove his decision of getting the young Jesus, he gave him starting spot at the detriment of Aguero so that media would sing praises of how he unearthed a young gem. Aguero has been great prayer and at very larger extent, he's not made by Guardiola. Ps- This is not to say Pep is not great coach. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 1:00pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheSuperNerd: It's double 'n' sir. Thanks |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 1:16pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: He was soaking up d knowledge on d bench ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elunico: 1:18pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Kog45: K.Nwkalli was invited and also played against Liberia 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by jihday(m): 1:30pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
elunico:Wasn't an official game tho 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 1:55pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: At the end, the philosophy is king and modern strikers must possess intellect and technique to shine there. In that respect, I will take Kanu. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:05pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Utonwanne: Not true in any way. When Gabriel Jesus came, I felt it was criminal leaving Aguero out for this dancing kid. But, with time, I got to see the brilliance of Gabriel Jesus. He plays in an effortless manner. He does not stop running, pressures all defenders, drops deep to win the ball. Tracks back at mind blowing intensity, fills pockets of spaces during defending. Utilises gaps flawlessly during attack. It was clear the kid was the complete package with respect to the philosophy. Only draw back was that his strike rate in front of goal was not as lethal as Aguero. Hence the philosophy rules, it was right Guardiola made the choice to drop Aguero for Gabby Jesus. With time, Aguero learnt it perfectly and now a joy to watch. Not as effortless as Gabriel Jesus but Aguero made up with high tactical positioning which returned him back to the favoured strike king. Has nothing to do with footballing politics. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:07pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: Kanu was being benched by tactical legends. Henry, Wiltord, Bergkamp etc who were highly gifted. I wonder if any of them was Yekini that you are using them as a criteria. This is a Kanu - Yekini debate. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 2:09pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: Tactical intelligence and brilliant technique is the most important criteria to make the formula work. The goals are the icing on the cake. This Kanu had sufficiently. If he was not a great player, he would not still have respect at Ajax today. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:20pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
safarigirl: Don't know you think it would have better to read my comments and understand before commenting. The CONTEXT was comparative progression in football of the Nigerian U17 players and the England U17 players. The comparison started from the 2015 set of which KC, Victor, Chukwueze and Isaac Success were considered to be progressing. That's essentially 4 players. To make things more recent we compared the U17 of 2017 to the Nigerian U17. In that comparative context the word is used exceptional progression, l reiterate in a two way comparison between Nigeria and England U17 progression from 2015. However, you have changed the CONTEXT entirely to look at young football players progression across the world in the context of exceptional. In this regard Jadon Sancho is the best young player in the world at the moment according to Eurosport. That's not just exceptional but excellently outstanding. I talked about him a few years ago when he was 18 and as normal it was dismissed as bias. To bring another dimension Jadon was not getting any game time at all and left city went straight into Borussia Dortmund first team and the rest is history. Paul Pogba had a similar situation left Manchester United to become best Midfielder in the world at that time, he left the academy straight into Juventus first team. Your assertion in the bold lacks merit it is not underpinned with fact or substance just prejudice. https://www.eurosport.com/football/top-30-talents-the-best-young-players-in-the-world-10-1_sto7747922/story.shtml |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:21pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: Game na game official or not. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:25pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
jihday: After the display in the Olympics 1996 he became the darling of our hearts. Add to that his skills and entertainment value. But in the cold objective look at the game he had limited impact particularly with goals both for the SE and in club football. I dont know what his assists were. However, I am unapologetically emotively biased where he is concerned. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 2:29pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: This is surprising, l remember when KC left city and everyone well the very much larger majority that Gabriel was not better than KC. And all accused Pep of racial bias. I cannot say you did because l cannot remember. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 2:35pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
TheGoodJoe: Goodjoe aka Mr tactical... Continue ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 2:59pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
This is Super Eagles bestXI based on how they performed wearing the green white green at the senior level. Now put that into context. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:03pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
I don't like where you are taking this argument. If you say at club level Kanu beat both hands down. Kanu was not as prolific as both. But Kanu was far better an all round striker. Achieved more at club level and had crazy magical moments. But you have a good debate if you are restricting their performance to the Super Eagles. jihday: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:07pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Joebie: Put into context Taribo how he performed as a left back for the Super Eagles and Yobo as a right back. What this is actually about is making the most formidable setup with the top players that have played for the Super Eagles. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:11pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Take a look at WhoScored best XI time after time. Taribo West is there by virtue of being one of the top four defenders while donning the green white green. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:11pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
komekn: I did not actually think Pep was being biased as such but felt he was making a wrong choice. With our system under him, we were creating loads of chances, with KC being lethal in front of goal with some insane stats, I felt he should have played ahead of Gabriel. Now I understand more (even in the past) after watching loads of games by Gabriel Jesus. That was why I wanted Nacho to stay, even though it meant benching and learning the things Guardiola felt he was lacking. Glad he got to work with Rodgers who to an extent could impact similar knowledge. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:12pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Joebie: He was never a top quality left back. He was a central king. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 3:14pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
read and understand. much emphasis is not put in the particular position they played when bestXI is named. which is why you will find strikers put as wingers and CBs as Full backs. It's common practice. TheGoodJoe: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 3:20pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Joebie: I understand that but will always pick the best for each role. Not just listing names for joke reasons. That is why my list is different. I am drafting a realistic list not a joke list of names. |
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