MightySparrow:
Yes he exists. if not why does He have more followers than atheists? Why does he have more employees in all nations believing they are working for him and expecting rewards from him. Why are people from all races, time, profession, civilization devote their time and means to a 'non - existent being? Yes he exists and many have interactions with him time and again from almost all races and are convinced, though not seen, Why do courts ask people to swear with holy books if the courts don't recognize his existence? yet they believe. yet he exists: God of the Bible is the only God to claim creation, undeniable spread of human race, He wrote a programme for the human activties in accurate prophecy. He is the only one who boldly tells us how the world will end.

budaatum:
I think many courts already accept the existence of my deity, or it would be a mockery to make me "swear/promise by Almighty God that the evidence I shall give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth", if they didn't.

As to you, op. Why ask me to prove you wrong and bless you with my knowledge? Do I owe you or something?

Tmach137:
I have a simple question for d christians...

does any of u have any credible, objective, verifiable, empirical evidence that your particular god (in this case, Yahweh) exists? Can dis evidence be accepted in a court of law or in a Science classroom in any secular university?

If any christian here can present such evidence, i will surely convert to Christianity and share my testimony here on nairaland with reference to the moniker dat won my soul.

As someone who has been asking these questions for years, im going to predict the kind of answers the Christians of this forum will give me

1. Answers dat mistake knowledge with beliefs

2. Answers dat display ignorance on what constitutes evidence for the existence of something

3. Answers dat betray lack of understanding about d burden of proof

4. Answers dat are at conflict with science

5. Answers dat reveal lack of understanding of who atheists are and what atheism is

6. Answers dat conflate religion with d existence of God's

And finally,
7. Ad hominem, direct threats and insults


I want to be proven wrong but unfortunately dis has been my experience with Christians. Like I said anyone who can answers dat question in a straight and honest matter will not only win my soul to Christ but will earn my highest respect.

Tmach137:

Just because billions of people accross d globe believe in a god doesn't mean dat god exists. Billions of people also believe in Allah. why are u not a Muslim then? Many other gods besides the god of the Bible ave claimed creation as well. Y not believe in those??

In d ancient times, people accross the world believed d Earth was flat. Now they ave ALL been proven wrong.

U don't knw d difference between claims and evidence. Pls learn d difference. U are just making baseless claims. I'm not surprised tho. This is one of the types of responses I predicted:

"2. Answers dat display ignorance on what constitutes evidence for the existence of something"

Dtruthspeaker:


You no dey dey for class wen we bin prove am?

Mr Proof and Mr Lawyer, you know the answer already but you just want use opportunity take bash and Prosecute us Followers of Christ and Lovers of God.

So make I give you the short cut answer since I don tire for today work and I Neva chop, so I no get power for long stupid argument in proof. Make you manage this one,

You Lawyers or ask your lawyer whether It is Not The Highest Law that 1) Nothing Comes out of Nothing!- Therefore Something comes out of Something.

2) it is the Highest Law that "You can not place a Thing on Nothing, and that Thing shall Stand!

It is your Law that the evidence of 2 is True. Make I go see wetin dey lockdown my wackees!

MightySparrow:
the few atheists are more reasonable than the rest of us. that you don't believe a thing is choice and your disbelieve does not erase the existence of the thing. it does not exclude you from its influence either. Evidence: in the court of public opinion: like for existence of God; share for non- existence

Tmach137:

How has dis justified ur God's existence?

Tmach137:

This is probably the most generic response any Christian would ave given to my question . Everything is just as expected. The smug ad hominem , the false sense of knowledge ,....

Tmach137:

Y do u guys make claims only?

Tmach137:

Learn d difference abeg. a CLAIM and an EVIDENCE are NOT the same..

U said nothing cannot come from nothing abi? So tell me, what was d state of the universe when T was equals to zero? And pls show me how u arrived at dat knowledge. Present credible and testable evidence

As for ur number 2 "evidence". Pls expantatiate. Thank you

Dtruthspeaker:



It's you who asked a question, we answered. Now you have carried the Goal Post away to say that we are the ones who made a claim when it is You who is challenging us with a Question and we have given you a Shoryuken Answer and you are now K.O on the Ground, cos you know your question is Dead Already

Tmach137:

My guy pls go and find out waht evidence means. U re not saying anything.

that you don't believe in the Superman is choice and your disbelieve does not erase the existence of the Superman. it does not exclude u from it's influence either.

As someone who has been asking these questions for years, im going to predict the kind of answers the Christians of this forum will give me

1. Answers dat mistake knowledge with beliefs

2. Answers dat display ignorance on what constitutes evidence for the existence of something

3. Answers dat betray lack of understanding about d burden of proof

4. Answers dat are at conflict with science

5. Answers dat reveal lack of understanding of who atheists are and what atheism is

6. Answers dat conflate religion with d existence of God's

And finally,
7. Ad hominem, direct threats and insults

Dtruthspeaker:


Thank you- thank you-you-thank0thank you, you're too kind



It's you who asked a question, we answered. Now you have carried the Goal Post away to say that we are the ones who made a claim when it is You who is challenging us with a Question and we have given you a Shoryuken Answer and you are now K.O on the Ground, cos you know your question is Dead Already

heeheeehee! I have answered you. This is not a reasonable question that comes out of the your question for now you commit the fallacy of the Presumptions for you are presuming that there is a universe (which is not the issue), there is T and there is "equals to zero".

This is another Issue and not the present issue.

Dtruthspeaker:


You Lawyers or ask your lawyer whether It is Not The Highest Law that 1) Nothing Comes out of Nothing!- Therefore Something comes out of Something.

2) it is the Highest Law that "You can not place a Thing on Nothing, and that Thing shall Stand!

It is your Law that the evidence of 2 is True. Make I go see wetin dey lockdown my wackees!

Tmach137:

My guy how far? Actually I agree with you. I ASKED a question. I challenged you. Dat is different from making a CLAIM. As to ur answer, I'm yet to see any semblance of reason in them.


Are u tired already?

Tmach137:
I have a simple question for d christians...
does any of u have any credible, objective, verifiable, empirical evidence that your particular god (in this case, Yahweh) exists?
Can dis evidence be accepted in a court of law or in a Science classroom in any secular university?
...
As someone who has been asking these questions for years, im going to predict the kind of answers the Christians of this forum will give me
...
I want to be proven wrong but unfortunately dis has been my experience with Christians. Like I said anyone who can answers dat question in a straight and honest matter will not only win my soul to Christ but will earn my highest respect.

Vic2Ree:

This is quite vague. Can't you explain in more understandable fashion?

Dtruthspeaker:


I can, but I won't cos it really is not your question, hence not your answer!

MightySparrow:
Yes he exists. if not why does He have more followers than atheists? Why does he have more employees in all nations believing they are working for him and expecting rewards from him. Why are people from all races, time, profession, civilization devote their time and means to a 'non - existent being? Yes he exists and many have interactions with him time and again from almost all races and are convinced, though not seen, Why do courts ask people to swear with holy books if the courts don't recognize his existence? yet they believe. yet he exists: God of the Bible is the only God to claim creation, undeniable spread of human race, He wrote a programme for the human activties in accurate prophecy. He is the only one who boldly tells us how the world will end.

budaatum:
I think many courts already accept the existence of my deity, or it would be a mockery to make me "swear/promise by Almighty God that the evidence I shall give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth", if they didn't.

As to you, op. Why ask me to prove you wrong and bless you with my knowledge? Do I owe you or something?

tintingz:


Lol. They didn't accept the existence of God but tolerates people's beliefs they hold very dearly, so you swear with what you believe in, you can swear with the constitution if you're non-theists.

tintingz:
As for the last paragraph, lol did he force you with knife?

tintingz:


Argumentum ad populum fallacy.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum

Superman has many fans therefore he exist.

budaatum:

So, basically, whether God exists is up to the swearer, right? After all, it's not like they force anyone to swear in court with God.

No, not with knife, and not that he can. But he does seem to have a sense of entitlement as if he is owed.

MightySparrow:
Electron has many user and uses, it does not exist. theoretical nonsense and stupidity that doesn't hold water.

tintingz:
Yes. They don't force people reason they ask for what you believe in, if you have no belief, you use the constitution. This just a systematic idea and protocol not empirical evidence for God.

How na? Did he drag you inside this thread and force you to answer?

budaatum:

There is no empirical evidence for God, tingz, as I have told you repeatedly in the past. It is why God people believe in their God. If they had empirical evidence, they'd know instead of just believe.

And since you yourself are not dragging me inside this thread nor forcing me to answer you, I can very well ignore you when I wish to, though I shan't because I do not want to since it interests me that the op even bothers to be asked to be convinced.