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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:44pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Common, you are not my type |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:46pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Maximus69: Lol... Maximus69, always imagining what I am up to. I just hope you don't masturbate with a mental image of me. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 6:48pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Which heat? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:48pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Haaaaaaaaaaa! Rozz! If you say so my young lady. If you say so! But don't forget that you can be a better soldier than Maximus, only if you are ready to follow the real Jesus, NOT their imaginary spirit that's teaching them contradicting doctrines! I once posted the type of nail polish that i bought for my wife, and one of these misinformed churchgoers was like "dragon nails"! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 6:53pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
I posted this to prove that people who will inherit the earth will enjoy richly blessings as well, because angels who lived in heaven came down because of beautiful female humans! Undoubtedly they aren't enjoying the feeling of different genders in heaven! Luke 2034-36
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 7:13pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Peacefullove You aren't coherent like I have told you. Your intentions is finding you out. Whether Theos is used for God or god, or man or any being. The motive behind such is to refer to deity. That is the truth meaning of word. Whether the person you now called Theos is truly god or God or just an allusion is left to interpretation. If you see the word Theos standing alone, the meaning is simply deity, no addition. It is context that explain what could it be. If you can't still understand this, I may have to write in inversion then maybe that will help. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 7:21pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
hoopernikao: Going by John 1:1 does the interpretation suggest logos is Almighty God.? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:25pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija: OK now! Rozz is NOT you type as she won't join you in condemning Jehovah's Witnesses just to please you and your cohorts! If the picture Rozz added is truly hers, only JWs can resist her because we only marry within our circle, i'm 100% certain that her uncountable admirers on Nairaland will be cursing you by now, for dishonouring a gem like Rozz! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:40pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:Are you very sure |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by shadeyinka(m): 7:41pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Peacefullove: I REPEAT: There is not one scripture that calls an Angel- God(the creator). If there is, is the Angel Micheal or Gabriel? But trust the JWs brains that has been reduced to the level of a toddler with low IQ, they forget that using their same argument, Man is also God(the creator)! SMH! I have been watching you all dance about like satans first born who thought he won a jackpot for his father. Since the truth is adverse to you, let me point it out to you. 1. The scripture cannot lie nor can it be broken. 2. The Bible, For the same Personality Jacob fought with, called this being i. A Man Gen 32:24: "And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day." ii. the Angel Hos 12:4: "Yes, he had power over the angel, and prevailed: he wept, and made supplication to him: he found him in Bethel, and there he spoke with us;" iii. God Gen 32:28,30: "And he said, Your name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince have you power with God and with men, and have prevailed. … And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." 3. Even Toddlers in Sunday school know that this is only true (as the bible cannot contradict itself) if God assumes the form of an Angel or a Man. Man cannot assume the form of an Angel nor God and neither can an Angel be God (the Creator). This is seen here with Abraham Gen 18:1-2: "And the LORD appeared to him in the plains of Mamre: and he sat in the tent door in the heat of the day; And he lift up his eyes and looked, and, see, three men stood by him: and when he saw them, he ran to meet them from the tent door, and bowed himself toward the ground," Gen 18:16-17: "And the men rose up from there, and looked toward Sodom: and Abraham went with them to bring them on the way. And the LORD said, Shall I hide from Abraham that thing which I do;" Gen 18:22: "And the men turned their faces from there, and went toward Sodom: but Abraham stood yet before the LORD ." Gen 19:1: "And there came two angels to Sodom at even; and Lot sat in the gate of Sodom: and Lot seeing them rose up to meet them; and he bowed himself with his face toward the ground;" 4. As far as JWs are concerned, Angels are called God but they forget that the converse (God being called an Angel) is more true. Of course, No Man has seen God (as God) except God distills Himself in a lower form suitable for the sight of man. "And when the LORD saw that he turned aside to see, God called to him out of the middle of the bush , and said, Moses, Moses. And he said, Here am I." Exo 33:20,23: "And he said, You can not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live. … And I will take away my hand, and you shall see my back parts: but my face shall not be seen." JWs cannot understand it. If Moses didn't see God's face but he saw only Gods back, what has he seen and the meaning of this? Exodus 33:11 So the Lord spoke to Moses face to face, as a man speaks to his friend. And he would return to the camp, but his servant Joshua the son of Nun, a young man, did not depart from the tabernacle. Yes, no man can see God (in His Glory) and live. 1Jn 4:12: "No man has seen God at any time. If we love one another, God dwells in us, and his love is perfected in us." Yet God has made Himself visible to men in times past but not in His Glory as God. (People like Maximus do not understand this). Back to the issue of an Angel being God. You can go worship angels if you want. But do you as JW agree according to how you interpret the scriptures that JWs have three Gods i. the Almighty God ii. the Angel iii. a Man The bone of contention again: If we cannot dicipher between three likely Gods of the Almighty God, Angel who is God and a Human being who is God, then you have the most confused English translation of the scriptures in the whole universe. If the Angel is God, is the Angel also Man? conversely If the Man is God, is the Man also Angel? Cc: Rozz Maximus TATIME Janosky 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:41pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:what made you made that post |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 7:45pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
shadeyinka: Guy you are just putting yourself in more trouble. U get your response soon |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:46pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Maximus69:Thats nice of you,i knew you would treat your wife like a queen.Though I am not a JW but I respect all JW for their uprightness,you can never find them wanting.Only if you were not married,thet will come for me for saying this lmao |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by hoopernikao: 7:47pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Peacefullove: You are asking me a secondary question when you haven't agreed to see the primary one. Word meaning is different from word application and interpretation in context. All I have been telling you since the beginning is the word meaning of Theos. Interpretation of John 1:1 was never in my view of discussion. And to help you. Like I told your colleague, you can't use John 1:1 to conclude what Theos will implies. You have to look at context based on chapter, book, and the whole Bible. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 7:51pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija: You have a very low sense . you can't be human and be spirit being at the same time , Spirit does not have flesh and bones . receive correction. Cc: Jozzy4 , this your friend is dry |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 7:52pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
hoopernikao: And since you have looked at the context on chapter, book and the whole bible, does it says the Logos is the Almighty God ? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:03pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Maximus69:Thats me sir, only fraudsters indulge in such.I have numerous admirers online and offline but outside here I am very reserved,i am so picky and choosy, most young men of this days do not have what I truly want.I just love to look good for myself and nothing else.Im just enjoying Nairaland,it keeps me from being bored.I will not have that time when school resumes as my course of study is very demanding.Im also learning how to socialize too. Most importantly I'm learning from you all gifted people with a vast knowledge of the scriptures. 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:20pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Hmmmmmmmm! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder! It's the heart that unites two persons not the appearance. Though all eyes are on the charming girls, but few are the hearts that really cherish them! Trivina (my queen) is the most beautiful woman on this planet, she deserves the best! 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:24pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Wish you the best in life Rozz! Just know that happiness is priceless, you can't by it, only God gives it to those who appreciate it! Rozz: 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:25pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Maximus69:You are right,truly beauty is just an attraction, the heart defineds if you are truly beautiful.Keep it up.God bless you 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Peacefullove: 8:37pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Yeah. Let's begin. shadeyinka: You Actually denied Jacob fought an angel until I show your errors. Clearly you are the one with the reasoning reduced to a level of toddler with low IQ not me. Here is your words Shadeyinka Are you now admitting there was mention of Angel ? Yeye
Later you will claim someone insult, is it frustration that made you typed the above ? Sorry o Rozz shey you see am
Earlier you said there was no mention of Angel remember, Good you are learning Let's proceed
So God is an ANGEL ??
You are still Yet to deny an Angel is called God. Frustration at highlighted
All the bible translations say the angel Jacob fought with is God !!! So where is the Jw issue here ? Who did Jacob fought with ? 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:40pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: When you find your JW friend, make the first move to extend your hand of friendship, most JW guys are scared of been corrupted by wayward people that's why they tend to appear hostile in most cases. But if you are positive and chaste he will soon get to know that he is safe with you. Moreover as you're doing now on faceless social media, engage in Bible based discussions and before you know it JWs will have forgotten that you're not one of us. People often think we are hostile but we are just being careful of the friends we choose, once you like sharing the word of God NOT argumentative, JWs will flow with you as one of us due to the LOVE you show for JEHOVAH'S word! God bless you! 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:58pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Peacefullove: Demons have obeyed Shadeyinka in times past, is there any time demons ever obey you? So Shadeyinka is a qualified preacher and teacher of God's word unopposed! |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:24pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Peacefullove: But spirit have heads for crown, eyes for seeing, knees for bending, where white cloths... Please correct me, when you have no flesh and bone, what do spirit need cloths for? What do spirit that have no flesh and bone need buttocks for? Spirit that have no flesh and bone but have ass to sit on thrones? No bone but have head, please tell me, is head in rested on the bone skeletal structure? It was a perfectly coin word for the description. Absolutely brilliant. Jozzy4 Janosky Maximus69 Achorladey Timalt 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:25pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Not my type. You don't have the grace not the quality. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:27pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Maximus69: Guy, you can breath without imagining what I'm thinking about? I mean don't you get tire? Do you dream about me in your sleep? Did I qualify anything when I mentioned not my type? I don't have time for people with low IQ. Abeg shift make I hear words. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:38pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:Iol,have you condemned me already? |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:54pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: My dear, understand that people like things differently. You as a lady should understand that more than anyone. I have not followed you, I have not check what you have been up to in this forum, I have not even followed your comments in this thread. I simply checked your profile, saw your dp and simply didn't like your making. So when it was mentioned me being jealous, I had nothing to be jealous of, she wasn't simply the type of girl I like. Not just my type. No hard feelings dear. Non whatever. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:56pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:lol.just joking around,no hard feelings either 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by rottennaija(m): 9:57pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Rozz: Thanks 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 10:36pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
Timalt: Timalt MUMU Na Doctorate (PhD) Level. Very Correct MUGU. 1st EVIDENCE Can you show us where the word "Bible" is found Genesis to Revelation? Does you agree you possess a copy of the Bible and it exists? What is an organization? Simply put a group of people working for the same purpose and interest having a structure of authority. 1 Cor 3:23.. You belong to Christ and in turn,Christ belongs to God". Jehovah is at the helm of Authority, He leads Christ and all His servants in the physical realm as well as the spiritual realm.. Timalt is a PhD certified MUGU. 2nd EVIDENCE (Let's look at the secular world, your Presido no dey do Council meeting? Is that not the Governing Body directing the affairs of the land? FOOLISH MUGU !!!!) Timalt the MUGU LYING HYPOCRITE FALSELY claims it was just one council meeting in Jerusalem. Let's see how it all began..... Acts 2:41-42 , " in that day, 3,000 people were baptized and they continued devoting themselves to the teaching of the apostles." Who taught the Apostles? John 15:15, Jesus Christ taught them. Who taught Jesus Christ? John 7:16, John 15:15, The Father and God of Jesus Christ taught His son. This is Jehovah's organization in full swing teaching millions of Jehovah's servants everywhere. Who makes decisions for Jehovah's servants back then ? Acts 6:1-6, The Governing Body of Apostles... Who intervened for Paul in Jerusalem that gave him freedom to mingle freely with believers? Acts 9:26-28 .... The Governing Body of Apostles intervened... Whose instructions did Paul pass on to believers in Derbe, Lystra and Iconium? Acts 16:6 , The orders and decrees of the Governing Body of Apostles in Jerusalem. Timalt ,Did all Congregation of believers in everywhere RECEIVE orders and instructions from the Governing Body of Apostles& Elders in Jerusalem? Timalt, PhD certified MUGU, Rolf Furuli and your gang of DELUDED HYPOCRITES, SHAME on you
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Janosky: 11:17pm On Jun 03, 2020 |
rottennaija:Jehovah's Organization is it. Mark1:13-15. 1 Corinthians 3:23. Acts 3:13. Isaiah 43:10-12. Deal with it. |
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