TAYO124:
If you have a problem deal with it. Stop ranting, if you need to rant distribute it evenly then it will show you are frustrated.

ongback:
Lol. When people fall for all these religious scams they can't go back anymore. It is part of the matrix.
TBH If i be pastor i for be indaboski bahose. I go jus dey give them better smackdown.

Kobojunkie:
We get it-- religion is man's invention with which he controls his fellow men and their access to an idea/God and all that applies to that idea/God.
Now we've got that out of the way, how then do you plan on getting the religious to realize they are indeed religious?

xdunamis:
When your mind can break free from the shackles of religion, then you are ready to walk the path to self discovery. It is an individual journey, nobody can walk it for you.

A lot of people when they get to this junction, they divert through the path of Atheism. Atheism in itself is a religion - A belief that there is no God, which is wrong. For every creature, there is a creator. I'll stop here for now, let me not divert the topic.

xdunamis:

Atheism in itself is a religion - A belief that there is no God, which is wrong. For every creature, there is a creator. I'll stop here for now, let me not divert the topic.

Kobojunkie:

Atheism, like any other idea out there, can become a religion for even those who hold that belief. It is obvious that many of the atheists who frequent this section are themselves shackled in this same religious bondage you speak of.

Tamaratonye5:
Could either of you demonstrate how "atheism is a religion"? I'd be glad to hear your explanation(s).

RELIGION:
1. a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
2. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience
3. an activity that someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly

Kobojunkie:

RELIGION

Kobojunkie:
1. a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.

Kobojunkie:
2. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience

Kobojunkie:
3. an activity that someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly

Kobojunkie:
This isn't about your perception of the word and its use, is it?

Tamaratonye5:
By your definition: atheism is a religion; and so is not collecting stamps, not killing your neighbor, a lots of other weird things.

Kobojunkie:

Wrong! Atheism in itself is not a religion.

Tamaratonye5:

Apologies, Kobojunkie. I think I might have misunderstood your argument. I only wanted to debunk the erroneous notion that atheism is indeed a religion. That assertion is silly anyway
[1] arbitrarily state what constitutes a religion
[2] use those arbitrary statements to 'prove' atheism is/is not a religion.
pointless lol

Kobojunkie:

RELIGION:
1. a pursuit or interest to which someone ascribes supreme importance.
2. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience
3. an activity that someone is extremely enthusiastic about and does regularly

Kobojunkie:

Tamaratonye5:

You've already stated that atheism in itself is not a religion. What's your point now?

Kobojunkie:

Atheism, like any other idea out there, can become a religion for even those who hold that belief. It is obvious that many of the atheists who frequent this section are themselves shackled in this same religious bondage you speak of.

Kobojunkie:

Atheism, like any other idea out there, can become a religion for even those who hold that belief. It is obvious that many of the atheists who frequent this section are themselves shackled in this same religious bondage you speak of.

xdunamis:
Don't be misled by the word "born again" - You were never a sinner.

"Judgement day", "end time", "rapture", "unbelievers", "gentiles", "hell fire", "heaven", "infidels", e.t.c. These words are instruments of captivity, enslaving you and your soul.

Religious beliefs (I mean all forms of religion) are nonsense at best. At worst, you get what we are experiencing in our world today. Chaos.

The biblical Jesus came and he tried to enlighten humanity, majority are still unable to grasp his messages and teachings. Just like every other higher being that came down with good intentions for humanity, Jesus tried to wake us from "The Sleep", he was completely against religious leaders at that time because they mislead others - up till now.

The churches of today are simply following the footsteps of Paul. They are not preaching Jesus, they preach Paul. But the followers do not understand the foundation. Paul was always against Jesus christ and his teachings, he was the persecutor. When Jesus died he had to continue the fight but with a different approach, he infiltrated the seed that was planted. He cashed out big time in the process and clergymen of today follow in his footsteps.

Jesus Christ did not come here to "die" for the salvation of anybody. He lived for humans in his time to be enlightened. He was killed while trying to help them. He did not die willingly, he even prayed against it. Christ-like beings do exist once in a while throughout history.

The world power at that time saw him as a threat, because if more humans get enlightened, their structure will become powerless. So Jesus had to be killed, the killing has to be justified...and his messages adulterated.

Have you ever pondered on how Jesus was sentenced to death by Pilate the Roman? And today Christians look up to the leader of the Vatican city. The same people who killed the seed, rewrote the entire bible to their taste and claim it is God's message (reason the bible is always conflicting itself. Just like the Quran it was written by some people who seek to control other humans), appointed a leader to now continue the teachings of the one who was murdered. They do it for one reason, to control and rule humans. You can't be a world power without elements of control over humans.

Religion is a tool of control. People are caged with fear.

Let's not talk about Islam, the brother of christianity. Go read about the Genocides of Mohammed, his sexual crimes and all. His ideas gave birth to majority of modern day terrorisms.

*Christians should not take it personal, I only used the story of Jesus as a reference. It is the same with Muhammed and all other forms of religion, they keep you in bondage with the threat of "hell fire." We are all afraid of the thoughts of a nonexistent burning furnace. We give away our soul out of fear, Muslims trade empathy for wickedness and brutal killings all in the name of religion. Modern day Christianity may not support bloody killings like it's brother, but the deceits, lies, hypocrisy, greed and selfishness within the church is second to none.

Stop searching for the figurative "God"
He is not hiding. Instead you should search for yourSELF.

ThinkSmarter:
After thorough study and research in my quest to know the truth behind World Religions.
I have come to this conclusions.
El (Elohim) or Yahweh is a Jewish god of war.

I have come to also realize that the story of creation recorded in the book of Genesis is nothing but Jewish mythology.

What Yahweh is to Jews is what the god of the Sun is to Greece (GreekoRoman Empire)

...could this be God the creator?
Do the Supreme God need human and animal sacrifices?...

xdunamis:


Brother, it is an impossible task. No matter how hard you try, you can't free a slave that is happy and proud in his/her slavery. It is a waste of your precious time and effort. The hunger for truth can only come from within. The best you can do is to give them some hints to ponder on.
You can only lead the "horse" to water, you don't force it to drink - I believe you already know the outcome if you try to force it. (The response could be worse than that of the above guy on FTC)

WHEN THE "SLAVE" IS READY TO BE FREE, when the "slave" is ready to seek for truth, nature is always ready to answer all your questions at the right time. The only prerequisite is for you to ASK, seek for truth (you have a limited time to do it.)

Nobody was created to be a slave, not even to the creator. Everyone has his free will. When you don't know YOURSELF, sorry.

When your mind can break free from the shackles of religion, then you are ready to walk the path to self discovery. It is an individual journey, nobody can walk it for you.

A lot of people when they get to this junction, they divert through the path of Atheism. Atheism in itself is a religion - A belief that there is no God, which is wrong. For every creature, there is a creator. I'll stop here for now, let me not divert the topic.

xdunamis:
Simple.

Simple

Simple.

When you decide to start seeking for the truth about our existence, all the questions you can ever think about have already been answered. The thing is that all the answers are encoded in puzzles. Some of those puzzles (like this one) are easy and some are difficult to solve.

When you measure the journey to enlightenment on a scale of a 6-3-3-4 educational system, the truths you unraveled should be learned around primary 2 or 3. I hope you get it.

Continue seeking for truth brother. We are not here by chance. The Maze is not an easy one but every seeker of truth can break free from it.

The Path to enlightenment is only walked by a very few people who are willing. Just think of literally walking through a bush path that nobody have tread for many months. You know how covered such path will be, you can easily get lost in the middle of your journey. Also, there are TOO MANY distractions along the way. But if you can listen, The Supreme body is always giving you hints and guides to direct you.