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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 10:16pm On Jun 05, 2020
bigfish3k:

Your hate igbos even more than the yorubas
Why were you chasing igbo voters away from the queue in the last elections in Lagos. Igbos that are contesting in Lagos are banking on igbo population for vote. Did they beg you to vote them? No
The hausa guys election comments u posted, the hausa guy can depend on his hausa population for votes.
Did you hear that igbos harassed anybody on the queue?
Igbos are fair play people. They know they will win in a fair contest but you people always depend on lopsidedness for victory

If u even attack their business that means you are jealous of their successes.
Not that you even have the might and acumen to replace them in the business

If igbos like their business they should stay off yoruba politics simple as abc
You can see how they used Okada ban to chase people away just one single policy and y’all over period
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 10:18pm On Jun 05, 2020
AntonVince:


See delusion!

He even added Delta State that the PDP has held firmly since 1999. cheesy

To compound your woes, the SS will produce the PDP's VP candidate thereby effectively reducing Tinubu's votes to 0.000001% in the SE/SS.

cheesy grin







Argument has shifted
Let everyone Support their own
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by AntonVince: 10:20pm On Jun 05, 2020
Osaze007:


Ok all the best with your rally around atiku
Let yorubas present their own son

Just don’t cry Yorubas have taken your turn

Be rest assured north will vote Tinubu over atiku
Same way Abiola won tofa in his home state

Be rest assure Edo will deliver 55% delta -36%
Rivers can support pdp it’s not relevant
Be rest assured kwara, kogi, Nasarawa and Niger will be won by tinubu and north west and north east will be marginally won by tinubu

Awolowo never had acceptance in the north the way Abiola , Akintola and tinubu do

Anyways 2023 is almost here can’t wait to watch you cry as for me I’m supporting any Yoruba candidate

Has the bolded part ever happened since 1999?
grin cheesy

Quit reeling out projections based on your fantasies and illusions. Embrace facts and realities brother.
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Nobody: 10:31pm On Jun 05, 2020
AntonVince:


Ogbeni Tinubu is no Buhari, remember.

The SW doesn't have the number to call any region "5%".

Where will you get the votes to make Tinubu president?

grin


Watch and see sentimental Igbo man. In the end you will know that politics is about permanent interest and it is in the permanent interest of the North to rotate power with the SW and even the SS but never SE.

Northern political leaders are not fools and know who the empty braggarts impotently fighting for Biafr.aud for decades are. They know the Yorubas are the only region that can exit Nigeria if they choose because we never make empty or fake threats.

If we decide to leave Nigerian then be damn sure all Yorubas will be on board from road side vulcanizer to all Governors of SW States. We saw this with Amotekun.

Unlike fake Biafra noise with restive youths carrying placards up and down while Ekweremadu and co are busy buying their 10th Banana Island or Ikoyi mansion.

Truth is that the North don't take Igbos seriously and view them as empty blackmailers unlike their perception of Yorubas they know have the nous, real influence on the ground and universal goodwill to leave Nigeria unscathed as things stand today. The Yorubas are therefore the only people the North accept they must defer to politically for the sake of self-preservation.

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 10:37pm On Jun 05, 2020
Osaze007:


If igbos like their business they should stay off yoruba politics simple as abc
You can see how they used Okada ban to chase people away just one single policy and y’all over period
But can you expatriate on the meaning of one nigeria that you people killed igbos on
That means you should support us for Biafra so that we can leave your politics for you and kill off one nigeria
We only contest in places where we are hopeful of winning free and fair with our majority population
I still repeat that we didn't beg to be in SW. We were forced by you people or are you now regretting fighting for one nigeria
We work and pay tax in those places that we live so we are eligible to contest says your "one nigeria constitution "
The Okada ban policy also affected yoruba agberos that usually collect tax from them.
Its a loose loose situation for everybody
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 10:40pm On Jun 05, 2020
bigfish3k:

But can you expatriate on the meaning of one nigeria that you people killed igbos on
That means you should support us for Biafra so that we can leave your politics for you and kill off one nigeria
We only contest in places where we are hopeful of winning free and fair with our majority population
I still repeat that we didn't beg to be in SW. We were forced by you people or are you now regretting fighting for one nigeria
We work and pay tax in those places that we live so we are eligible to contest says your "one nigeria constitution "
The Okada ban policy also affected yoruba agberos that usually collect tax from them.
Its a loose loose situation for everybody

Why didn’t you support the Fulani man in Ebonyi
Hypocrisy has a store in aba
Yorubas are not your masters holding Biafra tender it from your leaders

Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 10:52pm On Jun 05, 2020
Osaze007:


Why didn’t you support the Fulani man in Ebonyi
Hypocrisy has a store in aba
Yorubas are not your masters holding Biafra tender it from your leaders
Our political leaders supported him but he did not have the population that can make him win

You are not our masters but you will always take up arms against us if we want to leave you. Why didn't you remain neutral
Also remember your newspaper editorials strongly not supporting us while combining and giving the fulanis strategy on how to make sure we remain with you

BTW, why do you want me to ask from our leaders but you are the ones complaining of us.
Why not give us the Singapore treatment.
How Malaysia expelled Singapore to go and be on their own because they don't like them

We urge you to follow that route because we don't love each other
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 10:59pm On Jun 05, 2020
bigfish3k post FX=90354726:

Our political leaders supported him but he did not have the population that can make him win

You are not our masters but you will always take up arms against us if we want to leave you. Why didn't you remain neutral
Also remember your newspaper editorials strongly not supporting us while combining and giving the fulanis strategy on how to make sure we remain with you

BTW, why do you want me to ask from our leaders but you are the ones complaining of us.
Why not give us the Singapore treatment.
How Malaysia expelled Singapore to go and be on their own because they don't like them

We urge you to follow that route because we don't love each other

As for yoruba and mid west we were neutral until you sacked mid west and installed an Igbo man and aim to annex Lagos and Ibadan and Yorubas rightly defeated such a move protecting their territorial integrity

If your waiting to be “expelled” before you get biafra you go wait tire

Why did the igbos in Ebonyi not vote for the Fulani man such a wicked people
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 11:14pm On Jun 05, 2020
Osaze007:


As for yoruba and mid west we were neutral until you sacked mid west and installed an Igbo man and aim to annex Lagos and Ibadan and Yorubas rightly defeated such a move protecting their territorial integrity

If your waiting to be “expelled” before you get biafra you go wait tire

Why did the igbos in Ebonyi not vote for the Fulani man such a wicked people
How can you say yorubas were neutral.
So you mean that obasanjo entered the war after the igbos tried to annex ore... Say the truth so that your God can be proud of you

Yorubas were neutral and the command structure of how igbos are to be massacred were in Yoruba land

Abeg tell me what kind of neutral be that
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by DEROX: 12:10am On Jun 06, 2020
AntonVince:


Ogbeni Tinubu is no Buhari, remember.

The SW doesn't have the number to call any region "5%".

Where will you get the votes to make Tinubu president?

grin

Wait and see hope you know NORTH CENTRAL KOGI BENUE AND ILORIN IN ADDITION TO MIDDLE BELT BENIN AND SOME DELTA PARTS wink ONLY SE IS LEFT OUT I TELL YOU WHAT TINUBU NEEDS IS TO GET A NORTHERNER THAT CAN CONTROL THE NORTH LIKE NASIR EL RUFAI OR GANDUJE I BET YOU ITS FINISHED
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 12:37am On Jun 06, 2020
bigfish3k:

How can you say yorubas were neutral.
So you mean that obasanjo entered the war after the igbos tried to annex ore... Say the truth so that your God can be proud of you

Yorubas were neutral and the command structure of how igbos are to be massacred were in Yoruba land

Abeg tell me what kind of neutral be that

Yes it was after ore Yorubas and others switched 100%
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by AntonVince: 1:08am On Jun 06, 2020
Grayoso:


Watch and see sentimental Igbo man. In the end you will know that politics is about permanent interest and it is in the permanent interest of the North to rotate power with the SW and even the SS but never SE.

Northern political leaders are not fools and know who the empty braggarts impotently fighting for Biafr.aud for decades are. They know the Yorubas are the only region that can exit Nigeria if they choose because we never make empty or fake threats.

If we decide to leave Nigerian then be damn sure all Yorubas will be on board from road side vulcanizer to all Governors of SW States. We saw this with Amotekun.

Unlike fake Biafra noise with restive youths carrying placards up and down while Ekweremadu and co are busy buying their 10th Banana Island or Ikoyi mansion.

Truth is that the North don't take Igbos seriously and view them as empty blackmailers unlike their perception of Yorubas they know have the nous, real influence on the ground and universal goodwill to leave Nigeria unscathed as things stand today. The Yorubas are therefore the only people the North accept they must defer to politically for the sake of self-preservation.

The pictures you paint here are products of your fantasies brother...completely inconsistent with realities.
Buhari in his first two shots at presidency (2003 and 2007) had Igbo running mates! (Okadigbo and Ezeoke respectively)
cheesy grin
That he opted for a Yoruba man in 2011 and 2015 was a no-brainer; as he was in contention with Jonathan, a SSoutherner and you wouldn't expect the SS and SE to trade Presidency for VP.
Trust me, were Jonathan not to be in power in 2015, Rotimi Amaechi would've got the APC VP slot ahead of Osinbajo. (I expect you to know that)

Other than the potential to reap political benefits, the mutual distrust amongst the Southern Peoples is of no interest to the North as proven by history.

I'd take the bolded part as a subtle appeal to the North rather than a statement of fact. wink

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by AtlanticB(m): 1:20am On Jun 06, 2020
DEROX:
Wait and see hope you know NORTH CENTRAL KOGI BENUE AND ILORIN IN ADDITION TO MIDDLE BELT BENIN AND SOME DELTA PARTS wink ONLY SE IS LEFT OUT I TELL YOU WHAT TINUBU NEEDS IS TO GET A NORTHERNER THAT CAN CONTROL THE NORTH LIKE NASIR EL RUFAI OR GANDUJE I BET YOU ITS FINISHED
Remember Tinubu, El Rufai gandollar are all Muslims. I don't think it will work.

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by oyatz(m): 5:32am On Jun 06, 2020
I believe you want to reply someone else because this post is totally unrelated to my earlier post.



bigfish3k:

All those comments there are not from our political leaders so they are inconsequential.

And nobody in igbo land has ever harassed any hausa voters from voting just like u people did to the igbos in the last election by flogging old men and women with Cain in which ademola at okota nearly got killed
No igbo political leader commented unlike you that jagaban was calling us "awon okoro" to your delight which lead to your people harassing our peaceful voters

BTW, we are not claiming educated and sophistication like you people
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by oyatz(m): 5:45am On Jun 06, 2020
You are saying totally different things.
Contesting elections is a type of gambles and besides 'killings, hunger and insecurity' are not the same thing as political supremacy of the Hausa-Fulanis.

What if 'the gamble' succeed?

Being defeated in an election is not necessarily an evil thing. You just need to buckle-up and start again.
Those who fail today, may win tommorow.

You are the one that need that advice most sir because you are the one blaming other Nigerians for your woes and everything that is wrong with the country.

'Southern Unity' is NOT a political party. It will elicit 'Northern Unity'. No serious politician is making these kinds of Statement.



bigfish3k:

The Bible also said that whatever we agree on earth is agreed in heaven
Why gamble with a trial that will make hausas fulani stronger if you fail
We are currently feeling what they can dish out by way of killings, hunger and insecurity all over and you still have the mind to gamble with what can give them a glimpse of increase in power. Hmnm, I tire oooo

Nobody is determining anything for the south for now until there is southern unity which I am advocating in order to be able to defeat the north
We just need to liberate the south or we perish together.
Our lands and lives will not be safe with the fulanis
I rest my case let's just watch till then but don't change the narrative to start blaming igbos when your gamble fails

Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Nobody: 7:36am On Jun 06, 2020
AntonVince:


The pictures you paint here are products of your fantasies brother...completely inconsistent with realities.
Buhari in his first two shots at presidency (2003 and 2007) had Igbo running mates! (Okadigbo and Ezeoke respectively)
cheesy grin
That he opted for a Yoruba man in 2011 and 2015 was a no-brainer; as he was in contention with Jonathan, a SSoutherner and you wouldn't expect the SS and SE to trade Presidency for VP.
Trust me, were Jonathan not to be in power in 2015, Rotimi Amaechi would've got the APC VP slot ahead of Osinbajo. (I expect you to know that)

Other than the potential to reap political benefits, the mutual distrust amongst the Southern Peoples is of no interest to the North as proven by history.

I'd take the bolded part as a subtle appeal to the North rather than a statement of fact. wink


Take it as you like. You people don't do reality anyway. If you did you'd have accepted long ago that Igbo Presidency in 2023 is a pipe dream whether Yorubas contest or not.
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 7:46am On Jun 06, 2020
Osaze007:


Yes it was after ore Yorubas and others switched 100%
Switch 100%, you should have stated how many % of yorubas was fighting and killing igbos before the switch if not you are lying
Hmnm, Gowon was commanding nigerian troops which contain yorubas I have never heard that any Yoruba disobeyed command. You were all fully in the war 100%from the beginning. The command structure was also in Lagos a Yoruba land so all these your narrative of "we joined the war after ore debacle" doesn't add up.

Your political leaders were for the war against igbos so how can your military not participate

Yorubas know how to produce one defensive slogan that cannot even stand scrutiny when questioned after every evil that they commit
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by DeViNe007: 8:13am On Jun 06, 2020
AhoadaRivers:


It is simple, once APC give ticket to yoruba, PDP ticket is going north sharparly, no time!

May the most populous votes win. grin

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 8:18am On Jun 06, 2020
oyatz:
You are saying totally different things.
Contesting elections is a type of gambles and besides 'killings, hunger and insecurity' are not the same thing as political supremacy of the Hausa-Fulanis.

What if 'the gamble' succeed?

Being defeated in an election is not necessarily an evil thing. You just need to buckle-up and start again.
Those who fail today, may win tommorow.

You are the one that need that advice most sir because you are the one blaming other Nigerians for your woes and everything that is wrong with the country.

'Southern Unity' is NOT a political party. It will elicit 'Northern Unity'. No serious politician is making these kinds of Statement.



All that you are saying are normal if we are in a normal society.
But we are not in a normal society. We are in a society that miyetti Allah gives orders and take over peoples land.
That gamble by the south because of one man's ambition is not worth it in today's miyetti Allah controlled nigeria.
We need to put our best foot forward. The south will win if we collectively demand for it because its our turn
There is no way tinubu will win a northerner if the other south is against him because of his greed

Awolowos failed ambition of becoming Nigeria's president as was promised him by the hausas if he joined hands to scatter the aburi accord restructuring which Ojukwu did then is what we are still suffering from till today
Today everybody is trying to claim back that restructuring which igbos were killed for.

If you fail there will be no tomorrow to win on because I read this morning that miyetti Allah said that they need no permission to occupy any part of Nigeria
Just imagine what will happen if you fail because I am not seeing any winning by a southernner if we have a disjointed south
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 8:21am On Jun 06, 2020
oyatz:
I believe you want to reply someone else because this post is totally unrelated to my earlier post.



It was a mistake really, it is not for you
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 8:28am On Jun 06, 2020
Grayoso:


Take it as you like. You people don't do reality anyway. If you did you'd have accepted long ago that Igbo Presidency in 2023 is a pipe dream whether Yorubas contest or not.
Because you refuse to support a fellow southerner that is the reason it's a pipe dream
The reality check is that you people never support igbos
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 8:43am On Jun 06, 2020
Osaze007:


As for yoruba and mid west we were neutral until you sacked mid west and installed an Igbo man and aim to annex Lagos and Ibadan and Yorubas rightly defeated such a move protecting their territorial integrity

If your waiting to be “expelled” before you get biafra you go wait tire

Why did the igbos in Ebonyi not vote for the Fulani man such a wicked people
If you can't expel us then stop complaining about us
That means all you have been saying about our peoples hatred for you are lies.
You people still find us special and the best people to be with
Its hard for any society to let go of progressive minded people like the igbos

We organized a free and fair elections for the fulani man and he couldn't win its not our fault.
Igbos are not asking yorubas to vote for them in Yoruba land, we only demand a free and fair elections the same way we do for other tribes in igbo land
You sophisticated people should stop election violence against the igbos its killing your one nigerian dream
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 2:02pm On Jun 06, 2020
bigfish3k:

If you can't expel us then stop complaining about us
That means all you have been saying about our peoples hatred for you are lies.
You people still find us special and the best people to be with
Its hard for any society to let go of progressive minded people like the igbos

We organized a free and fair elections for the fulani man and he couldn't win its not our fault.
Igbos are not asking yorubas to vote for them in Yoruba land, we only demand a free and fair elections the same way we do for other tribes in igbo land
You sophisticated people should stop election violence against the igbos its killing your one nigerian dream

We are special blah blah story
Vote for the Fulani first then we will take you seriously
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 2:03pm On Jun 06, 2020
Grayoso:


Take it as you like. You people don't do reality anyway. If you did you'd have accepted long ago that Igbo Presidency in 2023 is a pipe dream whether Yorubas contest or not.

Whether Yoruba contest or not igbo isn’t president 2023 that’s the truth
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Nobody: 2:15pm On Jun 06, 2020
Osaze007:


Whether Yoruba contest or not igbo isn’t president 2023 that’s the truth

100%. Even Igbos know this and that is why they are making a show of pretending as if it is Yorubas standing in the way of their null and void 2023 ambition.

Expect to read Igbos in 30 years blaming Yorubas for "betraying" them in 2023
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 2:35pm On Jun 06, 2020
Osaze007:


We are special blah blah story
Vote for the Fulani firs
t then we will take you seriously
Knowing you people very well even if we vote the Fulani you will still change the narrative against us. So chill
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 2:46pm On Jun 06, 2020
Grayoso:


100%. Even Igbos know this and that is why they are making a show of pretending as if it is Yorubas standing in the way of their null and void 2023 ambition.

Expect to read Igbos in 30 years blaming Yorubas for "betraying" them in 2023

Yup yup it’s more of jealousy at how yoruba don’t have the baggage of civil war whenever they express Political interest

See how jealous they were with June 12 declaration
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 2:47pm On Jun 06, 2020
Grayoso:


100%. Even Igbos know this and that is why they are making a show of pretending as if it is Yorubas standing in the way of their null and void 2023 ambition.

Expect to read Igbos in 30 years blaming Yorubas for "betraying" them in 2023
Once you contest after using up your own term in the south and the south fails then you should be ready to take the blame
The best presidents nigeria never had : awolowo, abiola, jagaban will join the fray. Watch out
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Osaze007: 2:51pm On Jun 06, 2020
bigfish3k:

Once you contest after using up your own term in the south and the south fails then you should be ready to take the blame
The best presidents nigeria never had : awolowo, abiola, jagaban will join the fray. Watch out

Awwww this is toxic jealousy

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by bigfish3k: 2:56pm On Jun 06, 2020
Osaze007:



Awwww this is toxic jealousy
Your contesting on others turn is toxic greed
Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by oyatz(m): 3:40pm On Jun 06, 2020
. . .And how do we make our society normal?

All societies that appear normal evolve through trials, repeated trials and modifications of their national ethos.

Since we have adopted and accepted democracy as a system of Government, we need to try and re-try different democratic political permutations to deepen our democratic culture.

What you are calling 'Southern unity' will create a dangerous divide that will make other region too to gang-up against you. This will only deepen our fault lines and makes it difficult to achieve a national consesus.

Tinubu is a Ñigerian citizen and any citizen aspiring to become the president of his country should be encourage because this strengthen our democratic culture.

Tinubu, no matter his shortcomings is NOT the problem of Nigeria or the South and the whole debate about the 2023 election can not be centred on him.

Besides Tinubu, there are at least a dozen other Nigerians that are planning to contest the 2023 election.


Democracy is a journey, it is not a destination. It is a process, it is not an event.

There were many myths (e.g Civilian-to-civilian transition, 2nd term jinx, Southern candidate can not defeat Northern candidate etc) about Nigerian Democracy that have been bursted as we continue in the democratic process.


bigfish3k:

All that you are saying are normal if we are in a normal society.
But we are not in a normal society. We are in a society that miyetti Allah gives orders and take over peoples land.
That gamble by the south because of one man's ambition is not worth it in today's miyetti Allah controlled nigeria.
We need to put our best foot forward. The south will win if we collectively demand for it because its our turn
There is no way tinubu will win a northerner if the other south is against him because of his greed

Awolowos failed ambition of becoming Nigeria's president as was promised him by the hausas if he joined hands to scatter the aburi accord restructuring which Ojukwu did then is what we are still suffering from till today
Today everybody is trying to claim back that restructuring which igbos were killed for.

If you fail there will be no tomorrow to win on because I read this morning that miyetti Allah said that they need no permission to occupy any part of Nigeria
Just imagine what will happen if you fail because I am not seeing any winning by a southernner if we have a disjointed south

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Re: FFK: Tinubu Will Not Get The APC Presidential Ticket In 2023 by Nobody: 3:47pm On Jun 06, 2020
bigfish3k:

Your contesting on others turn is toxic greed

My friend, it is not your turn amd may not be in our lifetime. Even if the Yorubas abstained I make bold to say APC will still not consider an Igbo.

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