raumdeuter:


How do you know the recorder is richer or more educated? That you are shopping in a store does not make you richer than the person working in it.
There are shoppers in Shoprite who do not make what Shoprite salesgirls and security guards make
The African guy is well educated, from the logic he applied to the way he constructed the argument shows that he is very intelligent. His argument immediately disarmed the video guy. The argument that we as human all have different history but your own history doesnt make my own history inferior to you is a very sound one. He is probably a graduate who just landed in Yankee and started hustling while trying to get his feet on the ground, In 5yrs time this guy might be making over 100K a yr
The recorder just saw someone by the looks got pissed that why is this man here trying to monitor me and brought out his agelong bias

Do you think if this same video man sees an Obi, Kwame or Olu driving a range rover and blasting his Phyno and Olamide he wont have the same bias? That you just came from Africa to enjoy the sweat of his ancestors
Go and read about how some AA people have complained about Africans in IvyLeague (At least people in Ivy leagues are educated and most ar rich)

All you are making is assumptions.

I already stated that the line of questioning by the AA guy indicates that he is simply looking down on him because he is a security guy.

All these other assumptions you're making about the security guy is just that, assumption. The fact is many of us might have also looked down on or sparred with many low level workers irrespective of their education or what not, the fact that you are a security guard or a cleaner will most likely attract forms of subtle degradation from an arrogant individual.

The whole issue sef about the African American racism issue was even a derailment from their main problem which was that the guy was following him around and he didn't like it.

raumdeuter:


So you think it's just in the last 8 weeks since your post that Ronaldo made the money that pushed him over the 1 billion mark?

Ronaldo is not a billionaire.

donjazet:



Yes, you have pointed out the fact that human beings always have forms of biases and hatred among themselves and that is true.

However, no motivation for a bias or hatred towards another group is as widespread and global as racism.

What you are doing by outlining other smaller problems of human society is that you are diminishing the effects and impact of racism.

No other form of systemic hatred comes close to that of racism so you have to stop comparing racism with other smaller forms of humanity's bias towards each other.

The word in bold is the key to my position.

Systemic.

Like Dayo pointed out, bias and hate are natural human traits.

The Nazis and the 6 million Jews they killed were both white. The Germans didn't just start hating Jews when Hitler came to power. What happened was that Hitler came to institutionalise that hate with the third Reich - an entire government built to proclaim and then enforce Aryan superiority.

A poor white man can hate a rich black man from now till tommorow - he may never be able to act on that hate unless he is given the resources to do so

And this is what I was trying to explain to you that day. It is not effective to appeal to the hearts and minds of racists and hope that they change attitudes towards us. Instead what we must do is seek to build systems to prevent them from acting on those prejudices and hate.

And you do not build systems with placards on the street. You build them with political and financial capital.

donjazet:


All you are making is assumption.

I already stated that the line of questioning by the AA guy indicates that he is simply looking down on him because he is a security guy.

All these other assumptions you're making about the security guy is just that, assumption. The fact is many of us might have also looked down on or sparred with many low level workers irrespective of their education or what not, the fact that you are a security guard or a cleaner will most likely attract forms of subtle degradation from an arrogant individual.

The whole issue sef about the African American racism issue was even a derailment from their main problem which was that the guy was following him around and he didn't like it.

You said I am making assumptions but you posted affirmatively that

donjazet:


This arrogance I believe stems from simply being richer than the guy and perhaps better educated.

You can deduce this by the line of questioning he threw at the guard;
Where is your badge?
Do you know what a badge or ID is?
Do you know the name of your boss?
Why are you following me?

You knew the video guy was richer and more educated how? Did you see their bank accounts or certificates?

How did these questions make you know for certain that the video guy is richer or more educated? Did they make any conversation about their money or education

If it was someone of a different skin color who asked the African guy the exact same questions would you have said it was because he was a mere security guy?

Biases and hatred need just a little trigger to show face. The only trigger the killer of George needed was the opportunity to arrest him for what is probably a minor misunderstanding over a $20 bill

Segedinho:

Clowns indeed

Oga and pikin gats to go head to head on this

Probably there is an advanced OtemAtum's book wriiten by OtenAtum and yet to be read by OtemAtum.

The picture is funny. That goat's got gut

kopfschmerzen:
The Akata word is offensive ASF.

Not from me, but if you are offended, then in the words of Skimpledawg, I'm sorry. I'll use AA from now on.

afrodoc2:
But how do we reconcile the fact that the great OtemAtum himself said Jesus was fictitious and never existed while his student the erudite Gensteejay said he learnt from OtemAtum's book that Jesus came to Ife to learn magic from Eshu.

What a conundrum.

A character billions of years back came to Africa to learn magia. Homosapiens unconsciously patterned their stories after characters who are long dead. Paul wrote stories of Jesus and gave it the character of that being who came to Africa with exaggerations. You can't be outside a text of millions of words and expect to grab the whole of it in a flash. You need to read.

raumdeuter:


So you think it's just in the last 8 weeks since your post that Ronaldo made the money that pushed him over the 1 billion mark?

He earned $1bln doesn't make him a billionaire. He paid tax na.

Godx:

Oga go and read the article you posted. If you don't understand the article you posted with your own hands then I can't help. Ronaldo is not a billionaire.

LMFAO..... Pardon him English is difficult for some people. Ronaldo networth is not even up to £500M talkless of him being a billionaire.

spartacus11:
Our Front 3 next season Timo Werner, Tammy Abraham and Hakim Ziyech

I love this

Pedro and William will leave the club after their contract ends

Tammy what?
Efulefu striker.

nihilistjnr:


The word in bold is the key to my position.
Systemic.

Like Dayo pointed out, bias and hate are natural human traits.

The Nazis and the 6 million Jews they killed were both white. The Germans didn't just start hating Jews when Hitler came to power. What happened was that Hitler came to institutionalise that hate with the third Reich - an entire government built to proclaim and then enforce Aryan superiority.

A poor white man can hate a rich black man from now till tommorow - he may never be able to act on that hate unless he is given the resources to do so

And this is what I was trying to explain to you that day. It is not effective to appeal to the hearts and minds of racists and hope that they change attitudes towards us. Instead what we must do is seek to build systems to prevent them from acting on those prejudices and hate.

And you do not build systems with placards on the street. You build them with political and financial capital.

@ the bolded, how exactly do we do that? What kind of system do you propose can be instituted?

I ask these because we already have prominent black people who have been in powerful and influential positions already. Eg, Kofi Anan and Barack Obama. We already have powerful black judges and black Supreme Court justices, we already have numerous black billionaires and millions of black milloniares found in all continents. We have had black presidents too in racist South American countries.

So with all these powerful and influential black people in place, what kind of system are you proposing that will defeat racism once and for all?

You do understand that when I say systemic racism, I mean one that means racist men gain access to institutions already in place like the police, banks, courts, corporations etc and use these systems against black people either through killing them (racist police), sentencing black people unfairly compared to white (racist court and jury), denying them access to funds and opportunities available to their white counterparts (racist bank and corporations CEOs and decision makers) etc.

So I ask again, what kind of system can be instituted to combat the system already in place?

Ibime:


Not from me, but if you are offended, then in the words of Skimpledawg, I'm sorry. I'll use AA from now on.

Nah brov, we cool man. Just talking bout the general usage of the word.. We are all Africans except for Tariq and his delusional thugs, those losers can't even afford to do an Africa DNA test shit. Little wonder the fuccckkboys call em self fuckingggg Hebrew.

hensben:
We need a strong CDM that can really play with Kante, a quality CB that can read the game from the back and then a good LB. With this signings we will be competing for major titles in the nearest future.

Lampard is still on the market for new left-back

donjazet:


All you are making is assumption.

I already stated that the line of questioning by the AA guy indicates that he is simply looking down on him because he is a security guy.

All these other assumptions you're making about the security guy is just that, assumption. The fact is many of us might have also looked down on or sparred with many low level workers irrespective of their education or what not, the fact that you are a security guard or a cleaner will most likely attract forms of subtle degradation from an arrogant individual.

The whole issue sef about the African American racism issue was even a derailment from their main problem which was that the guy was following him around and he didn't like it.

OtemAtum:
A character billions of years back came to Africa to learn magia. Homosapiens unconsciously patterned their stories after characters who are long dead. Paul wrote stories of Jesus and gave it the character of that being who came to Africa with exaggerations. You can't be outside a text of millions of words and expect to grab the whole of it in a flash. You need to read.

Oh sorry sir. You thought i was seriously asking a question.

I was just mocking the foolishness of both you and your student ni.

I didn’t know you would take it so serious. I am sorry once again.

Skimpledawg will be happy with this.

MorataFC:
Tammy what?
Efulefu striker.

leave our Guy na

spillo1:

LMFAO..... Pardon him English is difficult for some people. Ronaldo networth is not even up to £500M talkless of him being a billionaire.

I was surprised when I saw mention of Ronaldo being a billionaire when the only sport personal worth a billion is Michael Jordan and he didn't even earn all of it from basketball alone.

OtemAtum:
A character billions of years back came to Africa to learn magia. Homosapiens unconsciously patterned their stories after characters who are long dead. Paul wrote stories of Jesus and gave it the character of that being who came to Africa with exaggerations. You can't be outside a text of millions of words and expect to grab the whole of it in a flash. You need to read.

And who revealed this event that happened “billions of years” ago to you?

Lemme guess, Atum right?

Ibime:


Why blame the British Govt? Blame the Dominica president who sold her citizenship so she can hide under their extradition laws. This is not news BTW, it's been reported on since 2 years ago.

Deiziani Allison was able to hide in London for years despite being known as a behemoth of corruption.

It's no hidden knowledge that the British government has been shielding corrupt African politicians and actually participating in them. Just look at shell and and their actions in the country.

Till date, Nigeria is the only country that is unable to get adequate compensation for the oil spill and environmental damage done in our lands by shell.

the case of some fools here is like that of a short-sighted person mocking those that can see far deeper than them.

It's one thing to criticize (everyone does that). But only fools criticize what they know next to nothing about.

Whether some claims are true or false, time will tell. No point in wasting time in any back-and-forth.

Enough said.

The Jesus magic story here is dumb.

larride:


And who revealed this event that happened “billions of years” ago to you?

Lemme guess, Atum right?

Please don't disrespect someone that has looked Yahweh and Allah in a Cage.

OtemAtum:
A character billions of years back came to Africa to learn magia. Homosapiens unconsciously patterned their stories after characters who are long dead. Paul wrote stories of Jesus and gave it the character of that being who came to Africa with exaggerations. You can't be outside a text of millions of words and expect to grab the whole of it in a flash. You need to read.

I asked you a question earlier which you dodged.

What was your method of research in studying about the beginning of the universe and can you briefly outline what you believe is the origin of God or the universe?

Godx:

Please don't disrespect a god

Are you kidding.

gensteejay is this true?

No wonder he knew what happened billion of years ago.

Logical thinking ti lazzident

kopfschmerzen:
The Jesus magic story here is dumb.

The thing tire me I swear.

donjazet:


@ the bolded, how exactly do we do that? What kind of system do you propose can be instituted?

I ask these because we already have prominent black people who have been in powerful and influential positions already. Eg, Kofi Anan and Barack Obama. We already have powerful black judges and black Supreme Court justices, we already have numerous black billionaires and millions of black milloniares found in all continents. We have had black presidents too in racist South American countries.

So with all these powerful and influential black people in place, what kind of system are you proposing that will defeat racism once and for all?

You do understand that when I say systemic racism, I mean one that means racist men gain access to institutions already in place like the police, banks, courts, corporations etc and use these systems against black people either through killing them (racist police), sentencing black people unfairly compared to white (racist court and jury), denying them access to funds and opportunities available to their white counterparts (racist bank and corporations CEOs and decision makers) etc.

This is the key thing.

It will take a while, but the african american elite really need to pull together, trash out the rough idea of a common goal, and start trying to influence that.

If you look at NFL for example, where the vast majority of the players are black, NONE came out publicly at the time when Kaepernick was kneeling to support him. It was only after the cause became popular that other players started taking a knee and these are all billionaires.

When ASAP rocky got arrested in Sweden, Trump was widely lobbying the Swedish Government to let him go. For the most part, black celebs were making fun of the same Trump for trying to free Rocky. This same Rocky himself was once asked what he thought about BLM, and he said this:

“I’m not about to say that I was down there throwing rocks at motherfuckers, getting pepper-sprayed. I’d be lying. Is it because I’m black? What the Bleep, am I Al Sharpton now?”.

“I’m A$AP Rocky. I did not sign up to be no political activist,”.“I live in fucking Soho and Beverly Hills. I can’t relate. I go back to Harlem, it’s not the same. It’s a sad story. I gotta tell you the truth.”

When Oprah Winfrey did a documentary on Michael Jackson, all the black celebs came out to cuss her out and say she was cooning.

There is no black representation, because blacks SIMPLY DO NOT PULL TOGETHER.

Check the number of black athletes with white wives/girlfriends and who live in white areas. As soon as any black person makes money, they realise that there isnt a group out there looking out for them. So they run straight to live with the whites.

African American people need to really start moving as one, but it's hard. African Americans need to get their house together

Godx:

Please don't disrespect someone that has looked Yahweh and Allah in a Cage.

Are you sure the nig** is not on ketamine or mushroom.

larride:


Are you kidding.

gensteejay is this true?

No wonder he knew what happened billion of years ago.

Logical thinking ti lazzident

Most of you're only talking ignorantly.

As I said earlier, the book you're mocking has more complete, more reasonable, and more consistent histories of every character you think you know in Christianity and Islam.

Even the local indigenous legends and myths around, the book still discusses all of them.

But when you mock a piece of literature you've not read, you're only speaking like a fool.

I can discuss Qur'an in detail because I've read it in Arabic and English from the front to the back cover many times.

The same thing applies to the Bible, and the other books I said earlier as well, including Otem's.

But only an ignorant person forms conclusions on a book they know nothing about.

I've said enough on this issue. Got better things to do with my time.

Those that feel it's necessary to read the book can do so. And those that feel otherwise: It's entirely their decision to make.

With time, we'll all know what's true and what's false.

OtemAtum bro, what's the name of your circus, and do you make your living off shows?

raumdeuter:
A40

What do you think about this exchange here

https://twitter.com/Bradonema/status/1268559829364285440?s=09

Lool this is the normal mentality of an uninformed black American. They have this envy for Africans and for some weird reason think they have suffered more than anyone else in history.

Racism, tribalism, colorism is a very broad spectrum and pretty much everyone is guilty not just white. The problem is when these things become institutionalized and law enforcement are seen to be upholding one rule for one person and another rule for another.

gensteejay:
the case of some fools here is like that of a short-sighted person mocking those that can see far deeper than them.

It's one thing to criticize (everyone does that). But only fools criticize what they know next to nothing about.

Whether some claims are true or false, time will tell. No point in wasting time in any back-and-forth.

Enough said.

So OtemAtum your teacher that taught you all this rubbish also said that he locked Yahweh and Allah in a cage.

ToyinDipo:
OtemAtum bro, what's the name of your circus, and do you make your living off shows?