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Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 2:36pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Christians believed Jesus Christ is the truth and the way, hence whoever wants to go to the father will have to do it through his son Jesus Christ, who is regarded as the son of God. Muslims on the other hand believe the Prophet Mohammed is the prophet of Allah and as such he is highly regarded and respected not in Christianity but in the world of Islam as a right step in entering the Paradise or promised land. We also have Traditional worshippers, Hinduism, Buddhism and other numerous religions, believes and practices. Now where I am confuse is, we all know that it is difficulty, unusual and strange for someone born into a family that believes in a particular religion to be convinced, deceived, confused or willingly decides to change to a different religion or believe. These gives birth to my question: CAN ALL RELIGIONS AND BELIEVES MAKE HEAVEN? So I will need enlightenment from the forum pastors, Imam, biblical and Qur'anic Scholars as well as those who are vast in these and other religions and believes, so as to be cleared on these mystery. 1 Like |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 2:38pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Irrespective of Whatever you say you believe or you are,in terms of Belief or Religion and all that, if you Get JESUS CHRIST wrong, you Have missed it... JESUS CHRIST is The Righteousness of GOD. All Have sinned and Come short of the Glory of GOD. We all from Birth are Sinners. No one teaches a little child to give "Waka" ! It's inbuilt in us as humans. Without the Shedding of Blood there will be on Remission or Forgiveness of Sin. Someone had to pay the price for All Humanity.. GOD ALMIGHTY offered His only Begotten SON , JESUS CHRIST to pay the Price for all Humanity.. The Moment JESUS was Nailed and Hung on that Cross and Cried IT IS FINISHED! The price for All Humanity was Paid! Salvation is Free! No Other Sacrifice or goat, cow, candle and all that is Needed.. All we need do is to Confess our Sins, Accept and Believe in JESUS CHRIST.. HE is The Only way to Heaven! |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Bacteriologist(m): 2:49pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Righteousness89: If I lived my life by good virtues but without a belief in Jesus, will I make heaven or not? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 2:52pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: My Brother, Good virtues are good and Wonderful. Infact they can launch you into Favor and good things here on Earth. But if you Do not Believe and Accept JESUS CHRIST, you will Miss Heaven ! There is no Heaven! |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Bacteriologist(m): 2:56pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Righteousness89: So a supposedly convicted serial killer accepts and believes jesus on the death row on the morning of his death sentence and goes to heaven. While someone who tried to live a decent life and was very kind and loving towards other people dies and goes to hell because they didn't believe in Jesus. This is really your religion? 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 3:01pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Righteousness89:Good that is the confusion, what about those born into a Muslim, or Hindu family and are seeing Christianity just the way you are seeing Islam? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 3:02pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
This is a very critical issue |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 3:05pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: My Brother, Christianity is a Relationship . Being a Christian is not just in Mouth or By Birth. It is a Relationship with JESUS CHRIST. There is no being on Earth as Merciful as JESUS CHRIST. And Obtaining Salvation is Free of Charge. Being a Killer, a rapist and all that is Evil and Wickedness but the Moment you Say, LORD JESUS , I Am Sorry, Forgive me! My Brother no matter what the World thinks of you, no matter what the World calls you, JESUS CHRIST forgives you instantly.. and if one is killed as you said, He opens His eyes in Heaven.. That's the Mercifulness of GOD ALMIGHTY. 1 Like |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 3:08pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil: My Brother there is no Confusion! The Confusion here is we Humans! We didn't Create ourselves ! Our Creator Created is and Gave us a way to Eternal Life. We Humans decided to create our own ways.. It's our Fault! It's not GOD'S fault! |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Bacteriologist(m): 3:20pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Righteousness89: That's falsehood, not mercy. It's a cult. Only cults place belief over morals. Your religion sentences good people to hell because they lack mere belief. People with genuine intent to do good and actually did good all their lives. Then it turns around and embraces cruel, evil, despicable, and hateful souls to heaven for having belief at the last minute. This your religion isn't something I, or any other person with the least grasp of morality, would want to have a part of. It's a cult. You're a cultist, please don't quote me ever again. I won't bother to reply you. 5 Likes |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Righteousness89(m): 3:24pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: Ok sir! When you Cross over, The Same JESUS will be the one you Will Meet. The Same JESUS is the one that will decide your fate! Don't be Suprised to see that This Conversation will be played back to you over there. It is Well with you Sir |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by odinson1(m): 3:58pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
All religions insist they have found the truth, despite the fact there are hundreds of religions and thousands of denominations preaching contradictory beliefs. This made me wonder, if religions were REALLY concerned about finding the truth, how would we expect them to behave? I wouldn't expect to see religious or inter-denominational wars, such as we have seen between Shia and Sunni Muslims, Catholics and Protestants and between Muslims and Hindus. Obviously, you don't find who has the truth by killing those who have different opinions. Instead, I would expect to see multi-faith working groups in centres of higher learning all over the world, working round the clock, sifting evidence, setting up archaeological expeditions and carrying out research. I would expect these centers of excellence to have ruled out most religions and denominations by now and be working hard to pare down the remaining short-list of religions. Finally, I would not expect religions to cling to dogma that cannot be changed; rather I would expect religions readily to change their beliefs as new evidence is uncovered. But in the real world, we do see killing, we do see rigid dogma and we do not see serious attempts to rule out false religions by mutual consent. Why not? Because, religions are NOT about truth. Truth is not in the least relevant to religions. That is why religions rely on faith and eschew evidence; that is why they rely on indoctrination of children and not on open-minded inquiry. Religions are not about finding truth--they are about defending lies. 1 Like |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Nobody: 4:02pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist: The convict who accepts Christ will definitely make heaven because he came through the righteousness of Jesus ( which is the only thing God recognizes) and not his own good works or deeds which God says our righteousness is like a filthy rag. So your good works cannot qualify you for heaven but that which Christ has done on Calvary. You only need to accept Him to gain free access to heaven. Read the book of acts chapter 10. Talks about a good man, Cornelius and how God had to send peter to preach Jesus to him as his good nature would not take him to heaven. So theres need to come through Jesus cos he alone was able to fulfill all of Gods' laws ( which no man, not even Muhammed) was able to fulfill and he did it once and for all. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Nobody: 4:56pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil: Just know this, OP: There is no "heaven". And there is no "hell" either. We die. And our bodies decompose. And it all ends there. We are no different from other kinds of animals. Yeah, I know people hate to hear that but that is the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. We are animals of a higher form. But when we die, we end up like all the others. One of the other reasons why I don't believe "ghosts" are a thing. They only exist in movies. ![]() |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Dantedasz(m): 5:36pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil: Religion is geographical. Once you understand this it will all make sense. If you had been born in Saudi Arabia you would most probably be indoctrinated into Islam. It is simple geography. There are thousands and thousands of gods and religions,lots of them have even gone extinct. All these religions employ a carrot and stick ideology of a rewarding everlasting heaven and a punishment everlasting hell. This carrot and stick ideology is to control your mind and make you pliant. The point is none of these religions or gods agree with each other. Everyone of these religions and gods are in a constant flux with each other to the extent that the adherents can kill each other over these religions. However the simple fact is that none of these gods exist. None of these religions and their commandments were ordained by any god. All these gods and religions are products of the imagination of men like you. Once you understand that god did not create man,but it was man who created god everything becomes simple and you are free! 1 Like |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:09pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:No you will not. The reason is simple. Jesus has rules that are for those trying to enter His Heaven, if you don't meet the requirements, you won't get in. It is His kingdom, hence His rules. There are many ideas of heaven out there for you to pick and choose from. You just need to focus on the ones that allow what you are willing to offer. ![]() |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:14pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil:Most every religion out there today has some idea of heaven that it offers its adherents. For each, there is an understanding of the sacrifices expected in order to gain admission into the applicable Heaven. So, yes, all can make it into a heaven -- not necessarily the same heaven, but a heaven. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Bacteriologist(m): 7:31pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Some of us choose to call his bluff. A heaven filled with racists, serial killers, pedophiles and armed robbers that repented at the last minute is not something I would particularly want to be part of. Jesus can go f*** himself with his rules in heaven. The second part of your post does seem a bit like sarcasm. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Bacteriologist(m): 7:37pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Eulalia: That's just sad, isn't it. So we are going to have a so-called blissful place that's filled with different sorts of evil people like murderers, assasins, human traffickers, pedophiles etc who repented at the brink. And in hell that is supposed to be a place of torment, we're going to have good people who, although, lacked belief in Jesus but nevertheless lived their lives in the best way possible and by good virtues without harming others. The thugs that wrote the bible did a poor job on the idea of heaven. Here's a better satirical idea that further ridicules it. 1 Like
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Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 7:44pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:Good for you! As I mentioned, there are different heavens out there for you to still pick from. Bacteriologist:It isn't. There is the Muslim idea of Heaven, the Buddhist idea of Heaven. Heck, there is even the Heaven that I kind of have my mind on still... the one where I seize to exist once I am dead. ![]() ah... Who knows if any of them exist? This is where faith comes in... works towards fulfilling the entry requirement into the Heaven of One's Choice. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Nobody: 8:09pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Bacteriologist:That's just sad, isn't it. So we are going to have a so-called blissful place that's filled with different sorts of evil people like murderers, assasins, human traffickers, pedophiles etc who repented at the brink.[b]For all have sinned and fall Short of the glory of God. Now, no man was born a saint according the Bible verse I just quoted. So God sees everyman as a sinner (whether you're actively sinning or not) until they accept Christ. There's still grace for you to accept Christ and enter into His righteousness. And the beautiful thing is, it is free. Its is the best gift to mankind. All you need do is confess Jesus as your personal lord and saviour and believe He died for you. And your name will be written In the book of life. Shalom.[/b] 1 Like |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:20pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Eulalia:Sorry please, supposing you were born a Muslim and someone comes preaching to you to convert to Christianity do you think you will easily accept? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:23pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Eulalia:Do you think is easy for one to leave a religion he/she was brought up with? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:27pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
I think this is a very Daisy question and so many people have not really thought about it.... |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Nobody: 9:27pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil: I would have accepted cos as a Catholic I didn't know this truth until I was preached to in a Pentecostal church and made to understand the importance of accepting Christ. I would have still searched the scriptures to confirm the truth and get born again. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Kobojunkie: 9:30pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil:really? ![]() |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:31pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Though am a Christian but if I was born into a Muslim hone and I have been though everything about Islam right from my childhood, going to Arabic school and all that, then I don't think someone from another religion will find it easy to convert me to his/her religion or believe. my thought though |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Nobody: 9:31pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Yungmil: With the help and conviction of the Holy spirit, it is possible. See the likes of pst. Tunde Bakare and several others who converted at a mature age. |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:31pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Righteousness89: IRRESPECTIVE OF WHAT YOU DO ON EARTH, OR WHO YOU ARE, IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE IN BUDDHA, YOU'RE WASTING YOUR LIFE. ON THE LAST DAY, IT WILL BE TERRIBLE FOR EVERY OTHER RELIGION, BECAUSE ONLY BUDDHA IS THE TRUTH AND THE LIGHT. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:38pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Eulalia:It was easy for you because of course it is still in the same Christianity. Image with all the knowledge, believe, upbringing, hope and trust you have in your religion as a Christian, then someone out of the blue start telling you that Hinduism is the way. Tell me how will you accept such? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:41pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
Eulalia:You just gave an example of some very rare cases. What about the millions out there who may not be this enlightened enough to have a retract............. You think they are lost? |
Re: Can All Religions And Believes Make Heaven? by Yungmil: 9:43pm On Jun 06, 2020 |
CAPSLOCKED:very complex cases. This is a totally different belief!!!!!!!! |
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