Edopesin:


While writing this essay you didn't even bother add the goal ratio for Pele at 19

The ignoramus hat fits you perfectly

Hold this bro

Hahahahahahahahahaha.... I drop A, you ask for B, I drop B, you will still ask for C. Just check the thread I dropped... I got better things doing.

This is you. Comedian. Lol

Subzero047:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDbcQSXCfk8

Watch from 3:10, how is that for shot power

Phenomenal talent, this Haaland like a terminator. But when I said shot power I meant m.youtube.com/watch?v=J15vfXqnwWw.

Even Iheanacho shoots like this.

TheSuperNerd:


Hahahahahahahahahaha.... I drop A, you ask for B, I drop B, you will still ask for C. Just check the thread I dropped... I got better things doing.

This is you. Comedian. Lol

Comedian wey use goal ratio stat disorganize your sense of reasoning is what I am

Utonwanne:


So he must be coming to live games to be a fan. If that is the case....

You are a TV Nigerian

Yes, i have been on national TV in Nigeria but i dont make a habit of it

I am still waiting for you to tell me the Nigerian home groomed players i pulled down and denigrated, just one will do two would be great.

Edopesin:


I don't want him in any of Liverpool, Tottenham, Man u, and even the Arsenal

Napoli would have been a better deal but Seria A dey one kyn with the high defense line play they are obsessed with there

Can i ask why, i do not disagree with you completely.

TheSuperNerd:
Haaland's shot power is as good as Zlatan's. That one is not even meant to be up for debate. Heading ability, well he is still developing but he got the height for it. I already said his aerial prowess is not so great for now compared to Osimhen who is not as tall as Haaland.


And no, I didn't say Haaland is outrightly a target man. I said he is a targetman kinda striker but has the mobility not associated with traditional target men. Perhaps I should paraphrase. What I mean is this, Haaland is a striker that has got the traits of a target man but also got good enough speed to function as a poacher and mobile forward in that central role. He is also a sharpshooter with incredible shot power. His goal vs PSG is just a glimpse of how powerful his strikes can be. Even at the U-20 WC, a few of his 9 goals packed power in its execution.


On Osimhen, well I see your angle as regards Costa but fine that you also see the Drogba traits in the lad.

Funny enough, these two players (Zlatan and Drogba) are Haaland's and Osimhen's idols.

The shot vs PSG was a blinder, man, dude moves like a terminator. If Osimhen was European though, he would have gotten the hype he deserved. It's a good thing we agree, brother.

sheyishemba:


you can compare costa's aggressiveness to osihmen
but osihmen Is more discipline than Costa and still dey chill pass but Costa nah gangster he is the true definition of war he is a fight he is a liquid metal

So is osimhen. Let him reach the EPL.

komekn:


Can i ask why, i do not disagree with you completely.

Klopp has some issue with not playing a proper 9 ahead of firmino and the competition in the Man u team cannot be overstated

I believe he can get playing time in Arsenal despite Oga Aubameyang in the team but I also want him in the champions league or at least Europa

Mourinho will limit his other abilities at Tottenham

safarigirl:


What is the point of this your argument?

You use 'We' when talking about the Super Eagles, but how many of their games have you gone for, even when it's in your backyard?

Is fandom by buying tickets and going to games? Someone is supporting a team from Nigeria, and you are asking if he has season tickets, does he live in England? How will he have season tickets?

The way you try to demean people sometimes, in your quest for whatever, is very disgusting.

He has as much right as anyone else to use WE for a team he supports. If Liverpool comes down to Nigeria and he has an opportunity to watch them, you think he won't? You think people in Nigeria that buy these club jerseys and spend their money to watch the games of these clubs do not have the right to use WE, when referring to clubs they support? Don't clubs make money from TV rights? Who do you think pays for these rights? Fans with season tickets?


What exactly are you getting at, by trying to ridicule his use of the term?

With regard to the bold, you quite clearly did not read the first post between myself and Danielnin00 , then you would understand where the discussion emanated from or at least i hope you would.

FYI information

U are totally wrong about Keita.. His problem isn't performance but injury. he has battles series of injury since he joined but has by no means been a flop..
He has picked up form this season..

I dunno where u get the story that we are looking to offload him,but it's 100% false..the only players we are looking to offload are Lallana,Lovren,Shaqiri and Clyne...


To discard my view so strongly calling it false, really implies that you have some insider knowledge and or acquaintance within or close to the club to be so convicted in your position. Well that is how i see it.

And so the question of "WE " is to ascertain what "we" means and the context, yes CONTEXT in which he uses "We". For me i had actually presumed he is in the UK or at least probably in Western Europe. I am not the only contributor here that lives abroad there are quite a few maybe not in the majority but a good number. I do not think that is an unreasonable assumption considering his comments or do you disagree ?

But you just couldn't contain yourself, assumption, upon assumption all in the negative.

Shooo omote whaaten i do u, see how ur eye deh tear.

Finally, finally see how you add pepper and salt to my alleged post in the second bold, come on that just plain UNTRUE.

20 year old Calvin Chinedu Ughelumba joins Glasgow Rangers. Yet another left back to keep an eye on

Edopesin:


Klopp has some issue with not playing a proper 9 ahead of firmino and the competition in the Man u team cannot be overstated

I believe he can get playing time in Arsenal despite Oga Aubameyang in the team but I also want him in the champions league or at least Europa

Mourinho will limit his other abilities at Tottenham

Look at the intricacy of play in Arsenal and the technicality of movement and interchanging of passes including first touch the dont play off the shoulder continuously. Consider how the 18 year old striker Gabriel Martinelli fits flawlessly into that system.

Arsenal will have to change their game plan to accommodate and get the best out of Victor and if they do not he will have to adapt, how quickly can he do that in the EPL.

Those are the questions.

waffiboi:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hx7ujfA4YkY

Gernot Rohr should look at this prospect. Much better attacking midfielder than Iwobi. On the same level as ejaria. Will become a better AM than Ebere Eze in future.

Why did he leave Tottenham ?

He is 18 he looks very good but dont forget the Eredevisie is not the EPL and or the Championship and to compare him and say he is better is than Eze and Ovie who are playing in far more competitive leagues is way too premature IMO.

Liverpool have a very good relationship with PSV and i am surprised PSV did not sell him by now, they may be patient and waiting to sell him for much bigger money later.

In terms of development he is in the right place for the immediate now.

ChrisKels:
20 year old Calvin Chinedu Ughelumba joins Glasgow Rangers. Yet another left back to keep an eye on

i guess he plays for leicester youth team

komekn:


I have no idea where you live, I had presumed that you lived in the UK or at least Europe, with your use of the word "WE" implying some level of acquaintance with Liverpool and or inside knowledge.

Not anymore, I had assumed at one stage TheGoodJoe was in Manchester with his love of Man city and quite extensive knowledge.

It seems my assumption about your residency may be wrong, but my view on Keita remains the same.

So what u are saying in essence is that you think only those who reside in a particular country/city have the right to be die hard fans of the clubs in that country/city?


Regarding Keita,you are still wrong..
You'd be surprised I have more insider info of what goes in at Liverpool FC than you from the comfort of my house in Lagos ...
Keita isn't going anywhere and nobody has put him up for sale..

Edopesin:


Maybe or maybe he had high hopes and expectations for the other center forwards then, the likes of Solanke, Ings, Sturridge

I read they're renegotiating the Werner deal though

They let ings go IMO prematurely and now Ings is killing it in Southampton and is among the top 5 in the EPL with 15 goals.

Liverpool have another striker they bought from Brentford he has not got near the first team forgotten his name , i dont rate him although not as bad as the Elliot boy.

Solanke was a good bit of business coaches did not rate him and then they found Bournemouth to take him for £20 million madness, Sturridge never recovered properly from his injury to compete in the EPL and has been a passenger for the past two seasons before theY let him go.

komekn:


Yes, i have been on national TV in Nigeria but i dont make a habit of it

I am still waiting for you to tell me the Nigerian home groomed players i pulled down and denigrated, just one will do two would be great.

All of them. You hardly give any of them the benefit of doubt.

By the way, you rolled out plethora of names that didn't represent England in U-17

andrewbaba44:


Post stats of players and see who is starting games, but here you are posting news stating aguero wanna leave city because he is being benched by jesus

If to say i get strenght go dey bring out stats like forgiveness, this argument go don end since

Smh

STATS are indicative particularly when we are not talking about pure goals and are not entirely conclusive.

Bamba playing for Cardiff last season before they were relegated had better stats than Van Dyke , but is he better.

Stats guide you but there is more too it.

Utonwanne:



All of them. You hardly give any of them the benefit of doubt.

By the way, you rolled out plethora of names that didn't represent England in U-17

You know get shame , you have moved from DENIGRATION to benefit of doubt.

Papers in Turkey stating that Onyekuru has already signed a 4 year contract with Trabzonspor.

Danielnino00:


So what u are saying in essence is that you think only those who reside in a particular country/city have the right to be die hard fans of the clubs in that country/city?


Regarding Keita,you are still wrong..
You'd be surprised I have more insider info of what goes in at Liverpool FC than you from the comfort of my house in Lagos ...
Keita isn't going anywhere and nobody has put him up for sale..

I don't want to desecrate the discourse, but how on earth from my concise words I have given to you, did you arrive at the bold SHOCKING

i have nothing more to say

komekn:


With regard to the bold, you quite clearly did not read the first post between myself and Danielnin00 , then you would understand where the discussion emanated from or at least i hope you would.

FYI information

U are totally wrong about Keita.. His problem isn't performance but injury. he has battles series of injury since he joined but has by no means been a flop..
He has picked up form this season..

I dunno where u get the story that we are looking to offload him,but it's 100% false..the only players we are looking to offload are Lallana,Lovren,Shaqiri and Clyne...


To discard my view so strongly calling it false, really implies that you have some insider knowledge and or acquaintance within or close to the club to be so convicted in your position. Well that is how i see it.

And so the question of "WE " is to ascertain what "we" means and the context, yes CONTEXT in which he uses "We". For me i had actually presumed he is in the UK or at least probably in Western Europe. I am not the only contributor here that lives abroad there are quite a few maybe not in the majority but a good number. I do not think that is an unreasonable assumption considering his comments or do you disagree ?

But you just couldn't contain yourself, assumption, upon assumption all in the negative.

Shooo omote whaaten i do u, see how ur eye deh tear.

Finally, finally see how you add pepper and salt to my alleged post in the second bold, come on that just plain UNTRUE.

Please, stop writing trash pidgin like " whaaten", it is very annoying to read. It is WETIN, there is no Cockney version of Nigerian pidgin.


And nothing he said, warranted your statement. It was condescending, and you don't even have the decency to apologise, or correct your wording.

If he says it is 100% false, then, as a fan, he has that right too. Do you know if he is part of groups that discuss transfer rumors? With the information I get on this thread and some WhatsApp groups, I can enter some places and call some rumors related to Super Eagles false.

You could not even back up your own claims with solid sources, even though you supposedly videochat Klopp every weekend. If it's Rohr that talks now, you will be asking for social security number of the agent he called.

Stop trying to ridicule anyone on this thread, because you assume yourself some kind of authority in English football. There is nothing you have ever said or done on this thread, that has earned you that title. You never even drop any exclusive information for us. Na tbaba wey dey US go dey drop content.

Once again, stop bastardizing our pidgin. You no sabi the spelling be say, you na sabi am. No go dey do pass yourself.

Utonwanne:



All of them. You hardly give any of them the benefit of doubt.

By the way, you rolled out plethora of names that didn't represent England in U-17

Leave that guy, Denial is his forte

Onyekuru one man wrecking crew against Fenerbarce

https://twitter.com/MahirVVarol/status/1267760423547408384?s=19

komekn:


You know get shame , you have moved from DENIGRATION to benefit of doubt.

You wey get shame. Show me where I said you dae Denigrate Nigerian born players- I need that exact word in my comment and I will deactivate my account and register new one.

And yes, you don't rate our home groomed players. All of them are below overage and nonsense compared to your English born.

That's why you named Tomori,Lookman etc as people wey play for U-17 worldcup just to belittle the exploits of Samu and others.

I'm waiting, just find where I said you're 'Denigrating' them.

Dude's facial expressions get me every time.

komekn:




Look at the intricacy of play in Arsenal and the technicality of movement and interchanging of passes including first touch the dont play off the shoulder continuously. Consider how the 18 year old striker Gabriel Martinelli fits flawlessly into that system.

Arsenal will have to change their game plan to accommodate and get the best out of Victor and if they do not he will have to adapt, how quickly can he do that in the EPL.

Those are the questions.

You seem so sure Osimhen cannot also play the Arsenal pattern
I believe he will walk into that team if it all goes down to how well he can exchange quick passes
He also has the quick burst of pace to find change position quickly for a return pass

TheLoneCitizen:
Since I couldn't find competitive stats for Haaland, I decided to pitch Osimhen against the best young strikers in the world. Rashford has played more games on the wings and doesn't qualify.

Osimhen is the youngest of the six which are Mbappe, Lautaro Martinez, Gabriel Jesus, Timo Werner and Moussa Dembele. League stats only.

Goal contribution per minute ratio: Osimhen ranks 5th best in this aspect. Better than only Martinez. Werner is on another level here.

Importance to Team
Rating: How does the player rate among teammates?
Timo Werner and Osimhen are the only ones that are rated the best in their team, the rest have at least one player better than them.

Goal contribution Percentage: How much goal responsibility is the striker shouldering for his team?
Osimhen absolutely smashes it here. His team has scored just 35 goals and he has contributed 17, which is almost half of the team's goal. He is followed closely by Timo.

First goal: This is important because some players score when their team is leading, others score to equalize. But the opener/first goal in a match is very important because it determines where the momentum will fall.
Martinez has scored 8 openers in just 20 games, followed by Osimhen's 9 in 25,then Werner's 9 in 29.

Holding On To the Ball: How well does a player hold up the ball before opponent pounce. Osimhen is the 3rd hardest player to disposesss behind Werner and Mbappe.

MOTM Awards: This is important because some players rack up stats over poor performances. A player might be scoring but not playing well.
Osimhen ranks 3rd with 4 MOTM, behind Werner(10) and Mbappe(6)

Defensive Contribution - Pressure: How much times has the striker pressured opponents to make decisions. Osimhen is nightmare to defenders always keeping them on their toes with 439 presses, followed by Martinez (385) and Werner(380)

STRIKING ABILITIES
Finishing: How much of the player's shot troubles the keeper?
Osimhen is the worst of the six when it comes to finishing, more than half of his shots won't trouble GKs. Jesus, Werner & Mbappe are most accurate.

Expected Goals: How much goal has the striker scored compared to what his chances?
Werner turns stone to bread here. He is supposed to have scored 20 goals but has 25, followed by Dembele who turned 11 goals into 16. Jesus wasted 3.2 goals followed by Osimhen who threw 2 goals away.

Aerial Prowess: How much headers do they win?
Osimhen is almost two times better than the next player, Moussa Dembele.


Osimhen comes out 3rd in this stats even though he plays in an average team. Bring on the Haaland.

So just shooting not a threat is the only shink in his armour? Wow.


We def dont rate this guy enough.

COOL10:
Dude's facial expressions get me every time.

like one character from One Tree Hill series!

Subzero047:
Onyekuru one man wrecking crew against Fenerbarce

https://twitter.com/MahirVVarol/status/1267760423547408384?s=19

Damn If he had the converted all his one on one chances sha, I like the way he stayed onside in one of the moment

Gala get players wey dey see pass wey person wey dey watch am for TV no dey see

Seriously??

Abeg WWE should get his signature asap. He's given hints....

Hahaha... You are spot on with this picture. I have this too in my soccer gallery. The lad got the fire shaa and that can be likened to a Diego Costa in terms of Fearlessness and sheer aggression. I see your whole point. Only that Victor is more clear headed and won't do something "St*pid* I hope Lol... There is a reason BascoVanVeli used to call Costa the Governor in here one time.

TheLoneCitizen:


So is osimhen. Let him reach the EPL.

Didn't take my time on this the first time but having gone through this, I must say this is indeed a fine stats read. This Lad is just getting started.

TheLoneCitizen:
Since I couldn't find competitive stats for Haaland, I decided to pitch Osimhen against the best young strikers in the world. Rashford has played more games on the wings and doesn't qualify.

Osimhen is the youngest of the six which are Mbappe, Lautaro Martinez, Gabriel Jesus, Timo Werner and Moussa Dembele. League stats only.

Goal contribution per minute ratio: Osimhen ranks 5th best in this aspect. Better than only Martinez. Werner is on another level here.

Importance to Team
Rating: How does the player rate among teammates?
Timo Werner and Osimhen are the only ones that are rated the best in their team, the rest have at least one player better than them.

Goal contribution Percentage: How much goal responsibility is the striker shouldering for his team?
Osimhen absolutely smashes it here. His team has scored just 35 goals and he has contributed 17, which is almost half of the team's goal. He is followed closely by Timo.

First goal: This is important because some players score when their team is leading, others score to equalize. But the opener/first goal in a match is very important because it determines where the momentum will fall.
Martinez has scored 8 openers in just 20 games, followed by Osimhen's 9 in 25,then Werner's 9 in 29.

Holding On To the Ball: How well does a player hold up the ball before opponent pounce. Osimhen is the 3rd hardest player to disposesss behind Werner and Mbappe.

MOTM Awards: This is important because some players rack up stats over poor performances. A player might be scoring but not playing well.
Osimhen ranks 3rd with 4 MOTM, behind Werner(10) and Mbappe(6)

Defensive Contribution - Pressure: How much times has the striker pressured opponents to make decisions. Osimhen is nightmare to defenders always keeping them on their toes with 439 presses, followed by Martinez (385) and Werner(380)

STRIKING ABILITIES
Finishing: How much of the player's shot troubles the keeper?
Osimhen is the worst of the six when it comes to finishing, more than half of his shots won't trouble GKs. Jesus, Werner & Mbappe are most accurate.

Expected Goals: How much goal has the striker scored compared to what his chances?
Werner turns stone to bread here. He is supposed to have scored 20 goals but has 25, followed by Dembele who turned 11 goals into 16. Jesus wasted 3.2 goals followed by Osimhen who threw 2 goals away.

Aerial Prowess: How much headers do they win?
Osimhen is almost two times better than the next player, Moussa Dembele.


Osimhen comes out 3rd in this stats even though he plays in an average team. Bring on the Haaland.