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Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 9:50am On Jun 11, 2020 |
This is my true life story i dont mean to ridicle any religion cos i know most of us joined religion through birth and we follow what the spirit tells us. So how do we know which spirit is truely right or wrong without experiencing both sides spiritually since they are both comming as light and not darkness to their followers. Asalamualaykum brothers and sisters, I happened to be one of the few people who have experienced spirituality in both Christianity and Islam simultaneously at the same time. When I say "spirituality" I mean received visions and messages through dreams hearing of voices from both religion I realised they are not the same truly. So Anyone saying the Christians and Muslims are worshipping the same God is totally wrong. I had to choose one because I couldn't serve two masters and I had to take my time before choosing so as not to end up with the wrong God. The christianic spirit was trying to show me that christianity is the way while Allah was making me to see Islam as the way. I was not born like this it started when I was at the age of 23. To be continued... 1 Like |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 9:51am On Jun 11, 2020 |
I was born into an Islamic family but I wasn't a devoted muslim like I don't observe salat often but I was a Muslim. Since childhood I regularly sense a hand holding me down in my sleep when I am about to wake up which some people have proven to be "sleep paralysis" well at the time I didn't know anything about sleep paralysis. So I believed it could be some form of demonic attack. I told my parent about it, my dad took me to an Islamic spiritualist he made some incisions on my head and assured me that it won't occur again when I was expecting him to give me some prayer point. But even after all that it didn't stop so I became used to it since it is not killing me it is just holding me down for some minutes "sleep paralysis" . Don't forget I was a Muslim but not devoted one. I got admission to unilorin for my master program and a coursmate of mine was a pastor spiritually grounded. I noticed I always sleep in class whenever class is going on I don't concentrate so I approached my coursemate "the pastor" and told him what I was facing, he told me it was demonic attack and the hands holding me down in my dreams are demons. He said he will help me, he gathered his fellowship members a prophecy came to him confirming the demonic attack so we are to fast for 3 days and pray on a mountain the third day... We did that actually and it was successful and I accepted Christ as my lord and savior, I was given a bible to study and a prayer point to pray at night. I was giving a name at the spot "Apostle Paul" due to the believe that my calling me is to be an Apostle I did that and had 2 dream that particular night. First one I saw a very bright light second someone one placed a hand on my head and said received the holy spirit and I felt some vibrations in my body which also took effect in the physical realm at that moment I knew something as entered inside of me. I continued to fellowship with the Christians but after 5day I started having doubt for no reason, the holy spirit is speaking to me I was seeing visions yet I was still wondering how Jesus can possibly be God cos i was taught in Islam that jesus was just a prophet right from childhood but this spirit was making me to see Jesus as God so this put doubts in my mind. Left to me I prefer the Islamic doctrine but I have never had dream or vision before in my life about islam so it was now difficult for me to go back to Islam after experiencing all this.. To be continued 1 Like |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 9:55am On Jun 11, 2020 |
So I decided to meet some Alfas at Ilorin and told them about what I was experiencing if they can try to convince me back because I was already seeing christiainic visions how can I possibly go back in my mind it seems impossible to me unless Allah can give me Islamic visions and convince me back to Islam cos at this stage reading the "Quran" was not enough anymore which is what the Alfas were trying to tell me to do. so It seems I was fighting a lost battle because I never knew Muslims do dream and see visions too.. But the obstacle here is that Alfas can't make me see Islamic vision but only if Allah wishes to guide me so they struggled to convince me. They told me the Christians are using magic but they can't prove it. they gave me a prayer book to pray and told to ensure that my salat(prayer) is complete and that the christianic spirit won't come to me again... Well I tried it actually it worked for like 2weeks I didn't see any christianic visions again but I also didn't see Islamic vision or dreams so at that I followed Islam with faith not because I was convinced left to me the christianic spirit tried its possible best I just didn't yield. But the very mistake I made was that I thought everything was over so I stopped both the prayer and salat even though I was a muslim but I wasn't fellowshipping with christian either. So now I started having strange(bad) dreams about death, falling from high places, having sex in dreams e.t.c this was not part of my problems before now it just start all of a sudden I didn't know who to run to maybe Christians or the Muslims. I decided to tell my "pastor coursemate" about it he said, he can't help me this time unless I accept Jesus Christ as my Lord and saviour I told him I would come back. I went to meet the Alfa again he told me to continue the prayer they gave to me that the cause of it all was because I stopped the prayer.. I started again but not as devoted as before so there was no changes I just did not want to go and meet the Christians even though I knew they could help but I want to it the right way. This bad dreams an co went on for like roughly 2 months and it has started to have an effect on my academics. I went home to tell my parents about what is happening to me my dad took me to another Islamic spiritualist who gave me soap to bath with and some cream to rub off my body, another Islamic spiritualist gave me an amulet to always were. The last spiritualist we went to gave me a prayer book that was exactly the same as some given to me at Ilorin and also performed "ruqya" on me but it didn't have any effect on me. To be continued |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 10:05am On Jun 11, 2020 |
So I thought to my self it seems Islam is not working I have to back to Christianity now I believed I tried my best giving Islam a chance but then I wasn't just cos I was not following Islamic rules like the 5 daily salat how do I possibly expect Allah to intervene then. So I went back to the Christians I told them I was ready to join Christianity and accept Jesus as my lord and saviour. It was at this point Allah interfered in this matter o I couldn't believe it how can there possibly be two different Gods claiming to be creator... To be continued |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 10:09am On Jun 11, 2020 |
My pastor prayed with me and also told me to pray some certain prayers at night like "Jesus reveal yourself to me", " holy spirit come inside of me" e.t.c I did as told and I experienced what I have never in my life. I was on my bed and i started praying as told I felt like wind was blowing heavily to me, my lips started stammering I guess that what christians call "speaking in tongues". As I was praying I felt something was entering inside of me well I was happy cos I have already made up my mind to follow Christ I slept and the vision I saw shocked me.. "In that vsion I saw my imam told him I was ready to leave Islam to join Christianity he asked me why I told him I didn't meet either Muhammed or Jesus alive I was only exposed to bible and Quran after my birth so I didn't know which is truly true and he told me don't join the Christians" I woke up that was my first time of seeing Islamic vision but what surprised me more was I was praying in a christianic way and I was seeing signs physically. I never knew muslims do see visions but the question on my mind was "How was Allah able to dominate my vision"? When I didn't pray to him. To be continued |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 11:03am On Jun 11, 2020 |
I told my pastor about the dream he said didn't understand it either. He said he saw a vision of his own too of Muslims calling me back to Islam. So we prayed together again, he was speaking in tongues I was silently reciting ayat kurisiyu from the Quran at that moment a spiritual clash was occurring between the 2 of us. What he intended to do didn't work because of what I was reciting. I only did that to confirm if we are both calling on the same God now is getting glaring that they are not the same God. At that moment if I pray in a Christianic way it will work I feel the presence of the holy spirit if I also in Islamic it will also work I also feel its presence now I am already going crazy which one will I choose when they are not the same. So I decided not to go to both the pastor and Alfa anymore and find out since I have the ability to call on both and they will answer so now I have to find the truth myself st this moment no pastor no alfa but me personally and both spirits to test them for truth. To be continued |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 11:52am On Jun 11, 2020 |
Now i see visions and dreams everyday somtimes not knowing which of the Gods is showing me So I started praying without mentioning both Jesus and Allah, I just say my creator, creator of heaven and earth. Left to me though I prefer the Islamic doctrine that Jesus was a prophet but then Allah started exerting his dominance by giving me series of visions and dreams about the true nature of Christianity... "In a vision I saw a lot of Christians chasing me but I was just too fast they couldn't get when I got to a place of shelter I raised my hand and i said Allahu Akbar(meaning Allah is the greatest) in a dream o. " I heared a voice on a dream of Allah making to know that if I follow the rules and commandments no one can take me from him that I should not fear any other spirits" "In another vision I found myself in the midst of Christians and I wanted to leave one of them pushed as the person was pushing I was getting weak like falling under anointing but the moment I said auzubillahi minnashaitani rajim(meaning I seek refuge in Allah from shaitan) they all scattered. " I was told in a dream not to worship creation but the creator" At this moment the Christianic spirit was not coming anymore maybe because I was not praying to it anymore. "I saw another vision one time I was in a church and a pastor was telling me Christ is the highest source of power the moment I woke up something wanted to enter inside of me i guess the "holy spirit" cos it was like a rushing wind and I recited ayat kurisiyu from the Quran and it left immediately" "I saw a banner in a dream one time written on it was Jesus is God then all of a sudden " Jesus" was stroked out and replaced with Allah" And a whole lot more like that I can't even mention here I just cherry picked some. Right now I see vision and dreams everyday at least 3 per night but it is completely Islam now . I don't mean to ridicule anyone or any religion its just from my personal experience that I share, May God Almighty Lead us to the right part. Amen Let us all remember that life is a test for us all and not everything that glitters is Gold. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 1:43pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Allah SWT said: قُلْ مَنْ رَّبُّ السَّمٰوٰتِ وَالْأَرْضِ قُلِ اللَّهُ ۚ قُلْ أَفَاتَّخَذْتُمْ مِّنْ دُونِهِۦٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ لَا يَمْلِكُونَ لِأَنْفُسِهِمْ نَفْعًا وَلَا ضَرًّا ۚ قُلْ هَلْ يَسْتَوِى الْأَعْمٰى وَالْبَصِيرُ أَمْ هَلْ تَسْتَوِى الظُّلُمٰتُ وَالنُّورُ ۗ أَمْ جَعَلُوا لِلَّهِ شُرَكَآءَ خَلَقُوا كَخَلْقِهِۦ فَتَشٰبَهَ الْخَلْقُ عَلَيْهِمْ ۚ قُلِ اللَّهُ خٰلِقُ كُلِّ شَىْءٍ وَهُوَ الْوٰحِدُ الْقَهّٰرُ "Say, Who is Lord of the heavens and earth? Say, Allah. Say, Have you then taken besides Him allies not possessing [even] for themselves any benefit or any harm? Say, Is the blind equivalent to the seeing? Or is darkness equivalent to light? Or have they attributed to Allah partners who created like His creation so that the creation [of each] seemed similar to them? Say, Allah is the Creator of all things, and He is the One, the Prevailing." (QS. Ar-Ra'd 13: Verse 16) * Via Qur'an English http://quran-en.com |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by OJODEL10(m): 2:46pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
bro i read your post from top to bottom i am happy to tell dont that holy spirit dont behave the you painted. he doesnt struggle , 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 3:05pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
OJODEL10:struggle as in maybe u can explain further. But if the christianic holy spirit wishes to reach out to me at the same time as the islamic own they have to struggle and exert their dominance over the other cos I am just a human being I was functioning in both realms and I had to choose the right one for me. I realize a true muslim won't leave Islam also a true christian won't leave Christianity unless they can function in both realms and decide which is truly right I tried as much no to be biased. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by SIONKPO1(m): 3:21pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
@op, I read your post,I must say that at times when we think that we are hearing from GOD but it could be demons manipulating you. but you can get a confirmation by fasting,praying,reading and meditating on the word of GOD and ask questions in your visions and also try go for counselling from a spiritually sound imam or pastor It is well 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by SIONKPO1(m): 3:23pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
haekymbahd:Let me ask you,Your feelings of the holy spirit how was it like? |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by OJODEL10(m): 3:32pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
SIONKPO1:he needs to answer to actually 1 Like |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Ochoiho: 3:36pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
The Holy Spirit does not struggle with a man. He decided to leave you alone when you went back to your Alfa to consolidate the lies you have been told from your childhood that Jesus is not God. Your current Islam dominated dreams does not authenticate any truth. You should have read about who Jesus is and who Mohammed was(The two people that brought Christianity and Islam) to determine which of the two is qualify to be atrue prophet then make your decision based on that. Jesus is still waiting for you. It will be late once you are dead and faces God in Judgement. Jesus died for you. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 3:40pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
@ ochoiho I realized that when I started praying the prayer point given to me such as "Jesus reveal yorself to me" or "holy spirit fill me up"... The first time was in my dream someone placed a hand on my head and said received the holyspirit I felt some kind of vibration all through my body the pastorv mentoring said it is "impartation". Okay again I was praying at night same prayers I felt a rushing wind comming towards me and my hand was getting kind of warm... I started stammering and mumbling the prayers I think I was speaking in tongue. I slept and the dream I saw was me telling my imam I am about to join Christianity he asked why I said I was not around during the time of Muhammed and Jesus I only met the bible and Quran so I don't know which is true he said don't join Christianity in a dream o. Also I had a christianic dream one time on waking up I realize similar feeling like a rushing wind trying to fill me up and I recited a verse of the Quran and it left immediately. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 4:15pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Ochoiho:u know as a muslim I also believe in Jesus but I believe he is not the Almighty God that's the difference between us "u say Jesus is God I believe he was sent by a higher and superior being" Based on that I will have to judge both Muhammed and Jesus based on the message they both passed across during their life time if it is different or same... I believe they passed the same message "that there is only one God not trinity" same as all other prophets that has walked the face of earth but I know u will argue it with me but it will just lead to endless argument has it has it as always been here. Everyone should follow whatever they think is best for them at least none of us has died before and see what is happening in heaven I am following my personal encounter and u follow yours to... One thing is certain both muslim and Christian none of us wish to go to hell and we both have a common enemy Satan. 1 Like |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Kobojunkie: 4:15pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
What are Christianic visions? |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 5:11pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:maybe I used the wrong words I mean christianic encounters such as dreams, voice, and physical encounters about Christianity.. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Kobojunkie: 5:38pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
haekymbahd:Do you by any chance suffer from daytime sleepiness? I ask because I know you mentioned sleep paralysis earlier but you never mention if you eventually got treatment for it. Frequent sleep paralysis experience is usually a sign of a sleep disorder of sorts. Sleep apnea and narcolepsy come to mind, and some of the symptoms of these include vivid dreams, hallucinations, early awakenings etc. I wonder if the "visions" you refer to are not themselves a result of an underlying medical problem that has gone unchecked for so very long. From experience, I know those dreams can really get to you, mess with your mind even, if you are unaware of what is happening to you. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 6:03pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:no I don't hallucinate I think what happened to me earlier was just sleep paralysis.. Well the pastor it was demonic attack though so it was after I met the pastor and he prayed with me was when I started seeing christianic dreams and visions and the moment I doubted the Christianic spirit for no reason by trying to confirm if islam is true thats was the point i started having bad dreams. I told the pastor about he said he cant do anything unless I become a Christian that God said I will eventually come back to Christianity that was how the bad dreams continued but I maintained my stance that I will confirm islam before committing to Christianity cos I can't accept just any spirit that comes to me has holy spirit easily. To be honest I was only following Islam I wasn't sure Allah was real then its just that I couldn't believe that Jesus was God it sounded somehow to me. When the bad dreams that was I went back to the pastor that I was ready to accept Jesus that was the moment I started seeing Islamic visions I didn't pray to Allah at that point but I was sure Allah didn't want me to join Christianity... Since I chose Islam there has been no more bad dreams or sleep paralysis for like 2yrs straight now now I dream good dreams and direction on how to live life to enter paradise and Allah has been warning in dreams about satan.. Maybe if I chose Christianity the bad dreams will also stop but I was after the right and true spirit to follow not just getting help from a higher supernatural being. Its not that the Christianic holy was doing evil but if I don't pitch both spirit together to confirm the right one I will be making a great mistake because they are both claiming Godship. "And I follow the proverb which say Anyone who makes judgement by hearing one side of a story has done the greatest evil" |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Kobojunkie: 6:15pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
haekymbahd:Demonic attack? Haven't I heard that one before ... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The thing about dreaming is that it is not disconnected from what we experience in our daily lives, the confusion in our minds, and our innermost fears. I seriously urge you to go see a sleep doctor instead so you can at least rule out sleep disorders as far as your so-called visions are concerned. I think they are vivid dreams because of the way you describe being forced down, chased, etc., regulars for anyone with a sleep disorder when there is reduced oxygen to the brain during sleep. haekymbahd: Ok. But I still recommend that you see a doctor. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 6:21pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:lol... Ok |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Ochoiho: 7:00pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
[quote author=Kobojunkie post=90561557] Demonic attack? Haven't I heard that one before ... ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() The thing about dreaming is that it is not disconnected from what we experience in our daily lives, the confusion in our minds, and our innermost fears. I seriously urge you to go see a sleep doctor instead so you can at least rule out sleep disorders as far as your so-called visions are concerned. I think they are vivid dreams because of the way you describe being forced down, chased, etc., regulars for anyone with a sleep disorder when there is reduced oxygen to the brain during sleep. Ok. But I still recommend that you see a doctor.[ A canal man cannot understand the things of the spirit for they are spiritually discern. The young man's dream depict a struggle between two forces trying to take ownership of his souls-rhe power behind Islam and Christianity. Believe me, he doesn't need a Doctor |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Kobojunkie: 7:07pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Ochoiho:Did Jesus tell you that He would show up in your dream in the manner described by a said young man? Have you ever had visions that mirror any of what he described above? Does God attack people in their sleep? Stop making yourself sound even more like the ridiculous "pastor" who tried to mislead this man.
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Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Ochoiho: 7:42pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: If you think the world revolves around your sense and science you are dead wrong. There are forces controlling the world that are beyond your comprehension. Please I'm not here to argue with you. 1 Like |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Ochoiho: 8:06pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
haekymbahd: From your previous write ups I think we have certain things in common We both believe that Muslim and Christians are not serving the same God. We both believe also that there is also one true God. The other gods are Satan transforming and claiming to be God. If the above premises are true, then you must agree with me that one of either the God of Muslim or Christian must be Satan possing as the true God. And following this Satan possing as God will lead you to eternity in hell. You cannot depend on dream because Satan is very manipulative. He was able to decieve Adam and Eve in Eden. Do you knows the sources of those dreams you have been receiving? That is, if they are truly from the Almighty God. you can not also base your decision solely on teaching of Mohammed and Jesus while they were on Earth here because the character of a person tells more of who he is than what he says. You need to establish what manner of life Mohammed lived while he was on Earth here. Doea he qualifies to be a prophet that will bring redemption to mankind. Compare him to Jesus and you will know who is the true Saviour. Pls this is very crucial, the eternity of you and your children depends on the decision you make. Takecare 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by Uyi168: 8:54pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
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Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by haekymbahd(m): 9:12pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
Ochoiho:I personally don't think it is a matter of true saviour between the Mohammed and Jesus to me it is obedience to God's command. Which will lead us who is God is it Jesus or the person who sent him. I think we can also both agree that God is a jealous God he hates associating partners with him. I believe both Jesus and Muhammad were sent by the same God. Because christian believe Jesus is God and is working for them does not mean christianity is from God either Satan could also have a hand in it. Now I personally believe the error the Christians made was calling Jesus God when they knew that he was sent by someone I don't want to quote scriptures. Jesus believed in a higher being also which he prayed to. Because a story is so emotional and interesting to the ear does not make it right i look for is if it even conform with the commandment of God to me no. U believe God changed changed its commandment with coming of Jesus that could be the work of satan also. Now the gospel which Christian s believed in was Jesus alive to cross check it and approve it to be right so to me it is not certain that the Yeshua of history is the same Jesus Christians pray to. Muhammed was literally a Savior cos if I believe him as a muslim Janat is certain also. Each prophets were literally savior during their time cos if anyone believe them they will enter the kingdom of God. Well that's my believe u have ur own... How sure are that christainity was not also influenced by satan. I believe 100℅ in Islam. |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by CAPSLOCKED: 9:13pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
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Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by DragnetisaKuk(f): 9:16pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
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Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by JanSnow: 9:48pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
SIONKPO1: The problem is finding or identifying a spiritually sound imam or pastor. Too many fakes |
Re: Choosing between Islam and Christianity My True Life Story by SIONKPO1(m): 10:44pm On Jun 11, 2020 |
haekymbahd:From this your write up,you are a Muslim trying to catch fun *To be Christianity is not by name or inheritance but you have to seek him cause he is always patiently waiting on your call *Christianity is a way of Life and not a religion as it might look *Where I thought you goofed big time,Oga if you get Encounter with the Holy spirit and he ministers to you regularly,you will(can) never be confused cause he will open your eyes to see things in not only the physical but spiritual *op,you further goofed,when you a new believer could easily say that you feel a breeze and you were blasting in tongues.you may never know when the holy spirit will be upon you except people around Op,mbok,try cook another lie cause this one you no use the right ingredients NOTE:There is no compulsion coming to christ 1 Like |
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