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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:18pm On Jun 11, 2020
Kazikazi you better be looking the rough the 20 pages I’m not posting everything for you, and just so you know I have only shown Nigeria, to show the superiority of the giant of Africa

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 7:21pm On Jun 11, 2020
Shma:
I can only engage you in that after you have activated your brain to sober mode.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:21pm On Jun 11, 2020
pacretus:
you sound too apologetic, our middle class is far ahead of Kenya, an average Nigerian is richer than an average Kenyan fact... More malls doesn't equate more patronage, I'm sure you never thought we had malls until 6688... Started posting pictures. "Bear" with us for what, are we some low life's?. Malls can never replace markets. The retail market in Nigeria is largely informal, when I say informal, please take the regular road side market out of your mind, I mean mini shopping centers. How many Kenyans can afford to shop in those malls. Abeg before you make sorry statements make sure it's true.



I’ve known that Nigeria has had malls for a long time I went to the novare mall in Lekki and Maryland mall and Lekki peninsula mall in my last trip to Nigeria I even have some pictures of the interior

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 7:21pm On Jun 11, 2020
Lekki peninsula,Lagos...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:22pm On Jun 11, 2020
Mkenya2019:
Eastleigh I know is better than most of the Nigerian cities -

Stop cherry-picking streets of Nairobi and Mombasa

This is estleigh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_VieewA3vo4&t=16s




Dude when you communicate with me do I sound like some idiot you can gullible fool ...show me a drive through that environment and stop decieving your sorry ass self...heck even the aerial view video revealed the road-less,filthy,slummish choas from above...
They are so many videos if Eastleigh on the net, U can cherry pics any...show me any recent video on a drive through Eastleigh that is sane and I promise to let this slide ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Wuoche: 7:23pm On Jun 11, 2020
Just30:
yes and your waterfront shit is thew same grin grin grin

maxmart might be even bigger

Ok, continue dreaming.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:23pm On Jun 11, 2020
Mkenya2019:
More like Nigeria - the paved roads in most parts is completely broken down.


You are making foolish noise...road in Kenya are broken down and I can prove it with videos in any of your counties...
You can't decieve any one here..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:25pm On Jun 11, 2020
Danielnino00:
Lekki peninsula,Lagos...


Kazikazi come and take some notes hundreds of thousands of people live here, with proper housing

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:26pm On Jun 11, 2020
I can afford to spend an entire day replying your bullshit rants and would still get my work done.

that's the freedom of working for both yourself and in the technical field. grin grin

While you hungry kiberians have no option than to carry your jobless selfs out to cart people on bicycles or push trucks in order to make 10 shillings a day else starvation.

Ghanaians here are only 3
Saddamochieng00:


The fact that you spend all your time on this thread goes to show that you are jobless just like the majority of Ghanian youth grin grin

Kenyan youth in this thread do not even surpass 4

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 7:26pm On Jun 11, 2020
KaziKazi ran away again
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 7:26pm On Jun 11, 2020
Abohboy:
You also wanted to talk about agriculture here we go, for this one no pics just statistics and data. Nigeria is not your mate in agriculture next is industrial manufacturing. Tanzania will not compare there either, next is oil and gas industry. Than we can do bridges.
So u wanna compare Nigeria with TZ? That's unfair comparisons! A country with a population of over 200 million with over a million of bagels of oil a day comparing with TZ?
Anyway, imagine if you have 100 poor folks,and TZ has 40 poor folks,that will make you worse off! But again,you are more populous! Or if you have 4 stadiums and TZ has 1. That will look great on paper for u,but in reality u have more people.
Unfair comparisons

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:27pm On Jun 11, 2020
Wuoche:

Mall construction is still ongoing. Let me take you to Kisumu where there are more malls than lagos. In Kisumu there is saturation of malls but investors are still building more.

Mushrooming of malls in Kisumu leads to saturation

lake basin mall
Lake Basin Mall in Kisumu in this photo taken June 25, 2019. PHOTO | TONNY OMONDI | NATION MEDIA GROUP

Summary
Following the completion of the Sh4.2 billion Lake Basin Mall, other shopping centres that have entered the scene include Mega City and West End, as well as Tuff Foam Mall, still under construction.

According to the 2018 Kenya Retail Sector Report, Kisumu is oversupplied by 200,000 square feet, yet additional mall spaces are coming up, a factor that is turning out to be an advantage for those looking to rent space.



By VICTOR RABALLA
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Shopping malls. They are everywhere you look, mushrooming in all major towns in the country. Kisumu County has not been left behind, but the unrelenting construction of these properties is gradually turning into a poisoned chalice for investors, who have sank millions in capital into the venture, to capitalise on the alleged expansion of the middle class.

CONTAINERS

So intense is the mall bubble that supply is threatening to reach saturation, which is made worse by fabricated containers that are edging out established malls as traders seek cheaper spaces for stalls, shops, offices and storage depots.

Less than a decade ago, Mega Plaza, United Mall and Swan Centre were the major commercial properties that served the lakeside city.

Not anymore. Kisumu has experienced a proliferation of malls, which have more than doubled following the entrance of new players and expansion of some as they join the list of competitors, leading to shrinking demand for commercial properties.

Following the completion of the Sh4.2 billion Lake Basin Mall, other shopping centres that have entered the scene include Mega City and West End, as well as Tuff Foam Mall, still under construction.


According to the 2018 Kenya Retail Sector Report, Kisumu is oversupplied by 200,000 square feet, yet additional mall spaces are coming up, a factor that is turning out to be an advantage for those looking to rent space. While Mega Plaza Mall completed its expansion programme over two years ago, Tuff Foam Mall is being extended by five stories. There is also Unique Mall, which is under construction right in the centre of the business district.

Unfortunately, the supply of space seems to have exceeded demand, leading to low occupancy levels, with some malls reporting as low as 40 per cent occupancy.

TOUGH TIMES

Mr Johnson Denge, a manager at Cytonn Real Estate, observes that Kisumu is facing low disposable income, which means that landlords could be in for tough times if the relentless construction of shopping complexes is anything to go by.

“Kisumu is experiencing a supply glut, and the pressure is now piling on property owners to lower the lease fees and rental prices,” says Mr Denge. “To keep afloat, a number of landlords have resorted to offering incentives to entice new tenants.”

The monthly average rent for space in most shopping malls in Kisumu is between Sh80 and Sh150 per square foot.

Lake Basin Mall, which charges one of the lowest rental prices at Sh80 per square foot, does not, however, include service charges and value-added tax, says George Asigoh, a manager with Charcon Properties, which manages the multibillion-shilling property.

The mall, owned by the Lake Basin Development Authority (LBDA), is conveniently located near the Mamboleo Junction on the Kisumu-Kakamega highway.

DN body text: Though the 62,000-square-metre shopping complex was completed in 2017, it has not been launched, because the owner is yet to get a reliable anchor tenant.



The mall, which has already attained 40 per cent occupancy, hosts a three-star hotel, showrooms, a tyre centre and a recreational park. Tuskys supermarket was initially to occupy the most strategic location in the mall but later withdrew from the deal after securing space at Mega Plaza following the closure of Nakumatt.

MAIN TENANT

LBDA chairman Cavince Owidi has, however, indicated that the main tenant will be picked from among French retail chain Carrefour, South Africa’s Shoprite and Choppies from Botswana, which have all expressed interest in taking up the space. Meanwhile, Mega Plaza, located on the busy Oginga Odinga Street, and which was redeveloped and is now the tallest building in the city, is also struggling to get tenants for the additional space. After signing an agreement with Mega City, the planned entry of South African retailer Game Stores promises to overturn the mall’s downward trend following the dwindling fortunes of the troubled Nakumatt, which closed shop.

Footfall in shopping malls over the review period rose mainly owing to the revival of anchor tenants in the retail centres replacing Nakumatt.

The mall, which stands next to the infamous Kachok dumpsite, could also reap big from the relocation initiated by Kisumu County. Western Kenya’s biggest landfill, which is being transferred at the cost of Sh200 million, is being transformed into an eco-park of indigenous trees and a children’s playground.

Worth noting is that the adjacent Vic Hotel has uplifted the status of Mega City Mall, located on the Kisumu-Nairobi highway.

While boosting the number of retail chains that have recently set up shop in Kisumu, the opening of Chandarana Food Plus Supermarket at West End Mall on Jomo Kenyatta Highway has given a new lease of life to the property, which was deserted following the closing of Uchumi supermarket.

COMPETITION

The mall, which hosts Acacia Hotel, has become popular with county government employees as well as civil servants in the government offices situated in the vicinity.

Though still under construction, the adjacent Tuffoam Mall has taken a big leap by attracting tenants such as Safaricom, Aon Minet insurance, Nation Media Group, Bata, Masinde Muliro University and Standard Chartered Bank.

Mr Eric Ounga, the proprietor of Ounga Commercial Agencies, a property development company based in Kisumu, is optimistic in the face of the present reality, saying that the future of malls looks promising.

“The focus should not be on the present but rather, the future. While a majority of people are looking at the current value of malls, the fact that a significant percentage of the space is vacant does not mean that the properties are running at a loss,” he says, pointing out that as the population and the economy continue to grow, the outlook will improve in another year or two. He adds that the entry of international retailers in the region could tilt the fortunes for investors.

He further notes that most landowners are developing their property in speculation, and their value is bound to significantly shoot up in the next three to five years without even considering the rental income.

“When United Mall was coming up, many were pessimistic and thought it was not a viable venture,” he says. “Now it has grown to become the busiest outlet as we speak. Today, it has one of the highest footfalls,” he said.

The property developer further expressed optimism that Lake Basin Mall, the biggest shopping centre in the western region, will take its space and provide a worthy competition for the players in the sector.

PRODUCTION

Kisumu County Governor Anyang’ Nyong’o, in an interview with the Nation, said that there is great hope for investors who are interested in investing in the lakeside city, coming at a time when there is a good working relationship between opposition leader Raila Odinga and President Uhuru Kenyatta.

While noting that Kisumu is dominated by the service industry, Prof Nyong’o said his administration is focused on corresponding the growth of the production industry to support the critical sector.

“The availability of services like banking and malls can best be supported with a vibrant manufacturing industry, which is the crucial engine for sustaining economic growth and development, job creation and poverty alleviation,” he said.

As one way of supporting tourism and investment in the western Kenya circuit, he pointed out that the county, in partnership with the national government, has embarked on an initiative to regenerate the lakefront in a bid to come up with an attractive view of the lake.

The redevelopment of the lakefront, to cut across the yacht club, Kisumu port and the golf club, is envisaged to have buildings near Lake Victoria reconstructed to face the waterfront.

To kick-start the process, tourism Cabinet Secretary Najib Balala said the government had set aside Sh300 million for the mega project, which is expected to greatly benefit businesses next to Africa’s largest freshwater lake. Governor Nyong’o noted that the putting up of an industrial park at Ombeyi in Muhoroni, the revival plans for the Kisumu port and the scheduled extension of the standard gauge railway will pave the way for new investors to set up shops in the lakeside city. “With these kinds of infrastructure, the … mall owners can rest assured as residents will have steady income that will enable them to shop in the malls,” he said.

OCCUPANCY

A report by Cytonn Real Estate released last year showed that the key cities — Nairobi, Mombasa, Kisumu, Eldoret and Nakuru — have a total mall space supply of 15.3 million square feet, against a demand of 14.1 million square feet, resulting in an oversupply of 1.2 million square feet.

Nairobi, Eldoret, Kisumu and Nakuru are oversupplied by 2 million, 0.3 million, 0.2 million and 0.1 million square feet, respectively. Kiambu, Mombasa, Kajiado, Mt Kenya and Machakos are undersupplied by 0.6 million, 0.3 million, 0.2 million, 0.2 million and 0.1 million square feet, respectively.

According to the report, Kenya’s retail sector performance improved in 2018, recording average rental yields of 8.6 per cent, 0.3 per cent points higher than the 8.3 per cent recorded in 2017, and average occupancy rates of 86 per cent, 5.8 per cent points higher than the 80.2 per cent recorded in 2017.

It further established that Mombasa and Mt Kenya are the new best regions for retail real estate development because of high demand for retail space of 0.3 million and 0.2 million square feet and anticipated attractive yields of 8.3 per cent and 9.9 per cent, with occupancy rates at 96.3 per cent and 84.5 per cent, respectively.


Olodo..did you even go to school at all or was it that you didn't read you post..
Your video clearly spells out the glut in your market and difficulties investors go through to sell mall spaces..the vacant rate is ballooning...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:27pm On Jun 11, 2020
dem

something Kwnya cant match grin grin
Danielnino00:
Lekki peninsula,Lagos...

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 7:27pm On Jun 11, 2020
edon21:

Show them some pictures

!--Cape Coast Stadium
2--Cape Coast stadium
3--Legon Stadium
4--Legon Stadium

Legon Stadium is over 85% Completed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:27pm On Jun 11, 2020
facts kiddo facts


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Wuoche:


Ok, continue dreaming.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:28pm On Jun 11, 2020
Abohboy:
KaziKazi ran away again

Stop all this nonsense comparism...why did you carry it in your head like #50 gala...I guess I should be asking "how market na?"
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:31pm On Jun 11, 2020
Abohboy:



Go back through the pages, I posted universities, agricultural output, housing, railways, roads, airports etc, we just need to wait for kazikazi to reply before the competition starts unless he quits
Universities: Nigeria
Agricultural output: Nigeria
Housing : Tanzania
Railways: Nigeria
Roads: Tanzania
Airports: Nigeria
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:31pm On Jun 11, 2020
Just30:
Houses Kenyans cant afford to live in



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHyMihWcx6M
lipsrsealed

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 7:32pm On Jun 11, 2020
grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin grin
Post Pictures of your UGLY looking 70k Stadium.
That stadium looks funny.
What kind of sits are those ones?your politicians are wicked.. and as for the top stands they just painted the floors for you to sit on the bare floor grin grin grin

rvp20182:
kasarani alone is 70k including gymnasium..Nyayo stadium 30k..and we still have many small ones in Nairobi alone including city stadium at 15k.. Nairobi gymkhana at 7k.Nairobi rugby stadium 15k.Nairobi race course 10k.Nairobi hockey stadium city park 5000.Within metro we have kiringiti, thika and machakos totalling another 40k..so Nairobi alone has more stadias than ghana

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:34pm On Jun 11, 2020
gallivant:


Any international destinations or awards yet?

It's a new private airline coming into Nigeria spaces..again also owned by a black K man...

With all the awards and international destinations KQ as had it still a useless loss-makung, over indebted flying coffin..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 7:34pm On Jun 11, 2020
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:34pm On Jun 11, 2020
leo552:

It's only Joburg and cape town which challanges Nai.compare Lagos ,abuja with Dar.

Mumu rants
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:37pm On Jun 11, 2020
Abohboy:


Don’t you remember East Africa vs west Africa they challenged us to show our best airports, highways etc so let’s go but after I showed they some normal highways in Abuja and Lagos and they have gone to hide away

I haven't seen you screaming Kenyans, or are they not part of EA...it's been kazikazi this, kazikazi that...
Your only contribution since morning..Are you afraid of Kenyans or what...
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:42pm On Jun 11, 2020
Torture2020:
Shameless goat from a zoo grin you are just a tasteless son of a crap spewing crap grin crass crap grin I always told you kenyans are stvpid grin grin grin now see this

three kenyans hospitalised in Kakamega for drinking sanitiser grin grin grin

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Lol this is just funny..if ugali has become expenztin the zoo then that means the zoo is on fire..that's by far the cheapest food in Kenya..it's considered a poor man's food in both Kenya and TZ..just like drinking garri in West Africa..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 7:43pm On Jun 11, 2020
jln115:

Universities: Nigeria
Agricultural output: Nigeria
Housing : Tanzania
Railways: Nigeria
Roads: Tanzania
Airports: Nigeria

HE11 NO grin

Debatable but more than likely NO. smiley
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 7:44pm On Jun 11, 2020
samorobo:


Lol this is just funny..if ugali has become expenztin the zoo then that means the zoo is on fire..that's by far the cheapest food in Kenya..it's considered a poor man's food in both Kenya and TZ..just like drinking garri in West Africa..

Everybody eats Ugali in Kenya & Tanzania weather Rich or poor. In fact Nyama Choma is mostly eaten with ugali. It's the staple food of the region.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Dlonra(m): 7:47pm On Jun 11, 2020
Ongata Rongai Kajiado County.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:48pm On Jun 11, 2020
AskiaHarem:
HE11 NO grin

Debatable but more than likely NO. smiley
Housing in Nigeria is ridiculously expensive, in fact rent is nearly double in Nigeria than in SA........thus the average Tanzanian will be able to afford a better house than your average Nigerian.

Secondly yes the road subject is debatable i agree.....I however based my decision on the fact that Tanzania has better quality roads, however Nigeria has more paved roads......to be honest I should just make it a tie
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:48pm On Jun 11, 2020
jln115:
nope.

Now post Pretoria metro
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:49pm On Jun 11, 2020
jln115:
Housing in Nigeria is ridiculously expensive, in fact rent is nearly double in Nigeria than in SA........thus the average Tanzanian will be able to afford a better house than your average Nigerian.

Secondly yes the road subject is debatable i agree.....I however based my decision on the fact that Tanzania has better quality roads, however Nigeria has more paved roads......to be honest I should just make it a tie

And who told you to be a judge?..

If you do badly want to discuss here then bring Abuja vs Durban..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 7:50pm On Jun 11, 2020
samorobo:


And who told you to be a judge?..

If you do badly want to discuss here then bring Abuja vs Durban..
@Abohboy did

Also Durban would destroy Abuja even more than Pretoria!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by samorobo: 7:50pm On Jun 11, 2020
Dlonra:


Everybody eats Ugali in Kenya & Tanzania weather Rich or poor. In fact Nyama Choma is mostly eaten with ugali. It's the staple food of the region.

You are telling me something I already know....nysmo Choma is that roasted meat made with salt...

Your ugali staple food is a poor man food when eaten ordinary..

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