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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:17pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Edopesin: Don’t disrespect higuain and Kroos They have always been world class any day any time How will you even think of calling higuain self ? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:19pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
komekn: Leave Rooney alone ,if this guy is not even the greatest English player self (among them ) Rooney has paid his dues and he won’t shine forever One of the few English players lived up to his hype unlike others 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:20pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
I still dont Believe Amos Adamu is from the north, he might be an Edo man tho, majority of Sani, Ibrahim, Aminu, with a certain Sani Toro, with one of them wanting to make himself a live president Kog45: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:22pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Joebie: IMO he has had a steep learning curve he has had some very hard schooling in the Championship. He has stopped being a boy, I watched him in one game bully Dominic Iorfa and score. He is now outside of Tomori the best Nigerian origin central defender l expect to see him either playing for Man City, ( l will absolutely not be suprised) at the very least in the EPL. So if he starts playing for City will that change our perception or any other EPL club. Finally, who do you think is better than him currently or other prospects ❓ 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:22pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
komekn: Players won’t last forever ,players Dey weak If you play as world class player till your 32 ,then I don’t care what will happen after that age ,as far as you are world class I will still consider you world class after that age ,body no be firewood 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:22pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Actually it does, thats if your read it slowly, and Asimilate it, not jumping to conclusion JayromWrites: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: I agree with you 100% people like Messi and Ronaldo are from a different planet. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Later today in La Liga Ramon Azeez (Granada) vs Peter Oghenekaro Etebo (Getafe). 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 12:24pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Michael Owen: 'Mesut Ozil not world class' By Mark Langshaw, Reporter | 6y Former Liverpool striker Michael Owen has disputed claims that Arsenal midfielder Mesut Ozil is a world-class player. The ex-England international said that the German is not capable of leading the Gunners to the Premier League title as he is too inconsistent. "[Arsenal] don't have the class of player to go toe to toe with the main title contenders," Owen told Sportlobster. "Despite people constantly telling me Mesut Ozil is world class, his inconsistency means that we only see occasional glimpses of real quality. "His odd good performance is usually followed by half-a-dozen poor ones." Ozil joined Arsenal from Real Madrid last https://amp.sportsmole.co.uk/football/arsenal/news/owen-ozil-not-world-class_125335.html |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:25pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: Agreed |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:25pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Lemme complete it for you. ' In A Small League' ChrisKels: 3 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 12:26pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:29pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Edopesin: Higuain and kroos has played constitent at the top for more than a decade Go and check higuain career goals and tell me how many strikers are better than him Strikers that are better than higuain are the Suarez Aguero and Lewandowski of this world The rest is left for you to check 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:31pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
komekn: Now you get it Because say cr7 Dey shine for old age people want make others be like that Higuain and co had paid their dues Abeg 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:31pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
do4luv14: Lol 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:32pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
elunico: If a white guy says he has no black friends particularly in a country with minority black people is no big deal. I have white Caucasian colleagues, associates, Church members, neighbours, football partners, etc I may socialise with them on the odd occasion. But they are not my friends, l know who a friend is. I may not see my friends in Nigeria often bit they are DEFINITELY MY FRIENDS. You must understand friend get category. All the white guys l went university with not one is still in contact with me. However, they few Nigerians i knew in primary school in my neighbourhood in the UK as a child to this day are still my friends. To be honest l call them brothers and not friends. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 12:39pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 12:40pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
do4luv14: Speechless |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 12:45pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: This argument no fit hold abeg We all have our reasons when we tag players world class As for me I will pick Aubameyang ahead of Higuain |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:14pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Edopesin: Auba is world class Taking aubemeyang ahead of higuain still doesn’t stop higuain from being world class |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:36pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
safarigirl: Well, firstly I would say the phrase "world class" is relative and also subjective. And so such kind of argument will hardly come to a conclusive end. What is the definition of "World Class"? Simply put "being among the best in the world". Do you consider this "world Class" rating as an instantaneous rating or rating over a given period of time? If you want to judge them as world class or not based on how they are ending their career (which the phase they are currently in) would you also say players lile Zlatan Ibrahimovich and Wyne Rooney were or were not word class based on how they ended their career? Ozil and Mercelo are getting to the twilight of their careers and it will be unfair to judge them based on their current form alone. During their hay days they were world Class players. FORM IS TEMPORARY BUT CLASS IS PERMANENT. I have seen comments like "he should be consistent all through......". All through till what time? Is there any player that remains consistently among the best all through his career? Even Messi and Ronaldo, a time will come when they will start struggling. Do you think it will be fair to Class them based on their later performances? 6 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 1:56pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:higuain world class? guy I doubt you can repeat this in Buenos Aires and Rosario without getting stoned |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 1:57pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
chrisooblog: Lol He will be stoned because he miss some goals in the final against Germany right ? Higuain is world class Periodt |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 2:16pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
do4luv14:Naaaah. Not those guys. I prefer a retired footballer. Lol. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by chrisooblog: 2:18pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Icon4s:well yes the term "world class" can be relative but clear is clear. in fact I would go further to break it so down to two broad categories. the shalaye and non shalaye group. with the shalaye players you will do analysis upon analysis, drop stats and write endless thesis why you feel player A is world class which at the end of the day you yourself might not be convinced. players in this category are oil, John Terry, cantona, hazard etc for the non shalaye it is pretty obvious the said players are world class so you won't need to engage in needless argument. players like Messi, Brazilian Ronaldo, C. Ronaldo, Pele, maradona etc are in this group 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 2:21pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44: alaye Higuain is not world class imo |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrewbaba44: 2:28pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Edopesin: Alaye higuain is world class Stats is there to speak for him. How many players can score 100 goals in every 200 games ? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 2:32pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Edopesin:Loool Owen is a clown. Anyone who doesn't think peak Ozil was World Class is being delusional. Dude topped the assist charts in Germany, Spain and England. Broke the record for most chances created in the epl. Wenger ruined Ozil. I understand trying to make more involved in deep areas of the pitch but playing that guy with Giroud...smh 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by do4luv14(m): 2:35pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Or a seasoned sport journalist like Colin Udon, ah no wan hear Segun Odegbemi ooo daveP: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:56pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
Is Eto’o right to criticise Chukwueze? ![]() The Cameroon icon recently claimed the Villarreal man could score more often but should the wideman be given room to breathe given his youth? In a sense, Samuel Eto’o’s recent assessment of Samuel Chukwueze was understandable. After an encouraging breakout season last year, the Nigeria attacker has tailed off somewhat this year. The wideman netted five goals in 2018/19 while registering two assists in 19 La Liga starts (26 in total) which wasn’t a bad return for a 19-year-old in his first season as a first-team player. The fact he posted those figures despite the threat of relegation (Villarreal finished 14th, seven points from 18th, after an arduous campaign) and managerial merry-go-round (Javier Calleja was sacked in December, replaced by Luis Garcia shortly after, only to be reappointed in late January) was equally commendable. Chukwueze could have scored more too, evidenced by his eight big chances missed statistic, the third-highest in the side behind Karl Toko Ekambi (10) and Gerard Moreno (16), two players who played significantly more than the young forward. This year, however, has seen a drop in the 2015 U-17 World Cup winner’s end product. Before the Spanish top flight’s suspension, the Umuahia-born player had netted three times and assisted a solitary goal. Given there was hope he’d continue the upward trajectory of his maiden year this season, his decline has been a tad disappointing, but certainly not unexpected. The development of any talent is usually accompanied by growing pains, and the forward’s apparent slump shouldn’t come as a surprise to observers, Eto’o inclusive. ![]() Still, Chukwueze himself is self-aware enough to know he’s got a lot of improving to do in front of goal. He stated that much in an interview in February, where he agreed he could play better. “Goals come with luck. I have had a couple of chances this season and I make attempts to convert them but you know you just have to keep trying,” the talented winger told AOI. “I’m actually not bothered because it is still a learning process for me and I know very soon what I have been practicing will start manifesting.” A comparison of the West African’s time at Villarreal presents interesting observations: in his maiden campaign, the wonderkid shot at goal far more than he is currently doing (1.6 shots per game last year, down to 0.8 this season). While this slightly explains his paltry return so far in front of goal, it’s also brought forth the wideman’s creative side. He’s already created six big chances in 19/20 from the same number of appearances (although 300 minutes fewer), which is four more than he managed last season. According to Understat, his 'Expected Assists for' in the previous campaign was 1.59. This year’s xA of 3.52 puts him in the top five creators for the Yellow Submarine, a major improvement on 18/19 where he just about managed to come in at 10th. Many critics admonished the talent for being a tad selfish by taking too many shots, and he’s trying to link-up with teammates better than he did last season. This has, undoubtedly, contributed to a lesser return in front of goal this season and the challenge would be attempting to strike a balance in not only creating chances but finishing them off as well. ![]() Indeed, Chukwueze’s heatmap this year vis-a-vis 18/19 shows he doesn’t get into the opponents’ penalty area in the ongoing season as often as he did last term. While there was an apparent bias for sticking to the right flank, before cutting in to his stronger foot from the inside right channel in his breakout season, this year shows he’s also prepared to stay further infield, occupying positions in which a number 10 would fancy receiving the ball. This isn’t to suggest the young Nigerian is a playmaker, rather it further strengthens the argument that, while last year saw him focus excessively on goalscoring, this campaign has indeed improved him as a team player. Despite many observers suggesting Eto’o was being critical, the truth is he wasn’t if the four-time African Footballer of the Year’s assertion is considered alongside the aforementioned narrative. “He is an incredible player who is growing in leaps and bounds and it’s just a matter of time,” Eto’o told Goal. “He is a quality player and he needs to score more goals, but he has the quality and ability to be more than just a goalscoring forward. Once he gets all of that he will be top.” While many interpreted the African football legend’s statement as criticism, in reality, it wasn’t that, but a recognition of a player who could grow into one of the finest all-round forwards of his generation so long he keeps improving on the little things. Source: Goal 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by benji93: 3:04pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
I am afraid I don't quite agree with your first sentence. World-class and Legend are not quite on the same level. You attain world-class status, then you become a legend. You could definitely get stuck and never attain the legendary status. Even legends at the club level may not necessarily pass as legends in football. Although i agree with your other point. The question get as he be. It's not quite clear what kind of treatment it needs.. Joebie: |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Edopesin: 3:17pm On Jun 12, 2020 |
andrewbaba44:lols even lukaku is averaging better goal stats If you're not consistent sorry bro you're not World class IN MY OPINION
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