achorladey:


Oga you have forgotten that their is JESUS CHRIST someplace somewhere in that 3 in 1 that they follow and hold in HIGH ESTEEM and you agree they CALL on his name same WAY you do.

Their master will give them their DUE PROMISE don't wonder about. Just as you get yours from your master, they will get THEIRS.

Let them continue. In the end we will know who are truly God's people.

achorladey:


Oga you have forgotten that their is JESUS CHRIST someplace somewhere in that 3 in 1 that they follow and hold in HIGH ESTEEM and you agree they CALL on his name same WAY you do.

Their master will give them their DUE PROMISE don't wonder about. Just as you get yours from your master, they will get THEIRS.

Correction, Jehovah's Witnesses worship only Jehovah the true God, and not Jesus Christ. (Deuteronomy 6:4, John 17:3, Luke 4:8 )


Trinitarians who claim to be Christians worship their own 3-in-1 God, they even worship Jesus Christ too because that's their own teaching that's not found in the Bible.

DappaD:

Let them continue. In the end we will know who are truly God's people.

Why wonder initially when you know in the END those who are God's people will be SEEN and declared so?

DappaD:

Correction, Jehovah's Witnesses worship only Jehovah the true God, and not Jesus Christ. (Deuteronomy 6:4, John 17:3, Luke 4:8 )


Trinitarians who claim to be Christians worship their own 3-in-1 God, they even worship Jesus Christ too because that's their own teaching that's not found in the Bible.

Do you BELIEVE TRINITARIANS agree with the BELOW? as captured in captured in a Watchtower in the image shown BELOW.

The apostle Paul said that “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.” (Philippians 2:10) This is not just a token thing. Jesus warned that many would claim to do mighty works in his “name,” but he would not recognize them. (Matthew 7:21-23) Truly to ‘bend the knee’ in Jesus’ name means recognizing his position and fully submitting oneself to his authority. Today, it means being subject to him as King, sharing in the work of declaring the good news of the Kingdom and staying neutral in the affairs of earthly kingdoms.​—Matthew 24:14.


The apostle Peter declared: “There is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Acts 4:12) Previously, Peter had said to a lame man: “In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk!” And the man walked. (Acts 3:6) Jesus told his followers that they should pray ‘in his name.’ (John 14:14) When we use Jesus’ name in our prayers, we are not reciting a mere formula. Rather, we are petitioning that the high power and authority of Jesus Christ be used on our behalf.

By showing appropriate honor and respect for Jesus’ “name”​—his high position or authority—​we come to be among those of whom it is said: “Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”​—Philippians 2:11.

achorladey:


Do you BELIEVE TRINITARIANS agree with the BELOW? as captured in captured in a Watchtower in the image shown BELOW.

The apostle Paul said that “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.” (Philippians 2:10) This is not just a token thing. Jesus warned that many would claim to do mighty works in his “name,” but he would not recognize them. (Matthew 7:21-23) Truly to ‘bend the knee’ in Jesus’ name means recognizing his position and fully submitting oneself to his authority. Today, it means being subject to him as King, sharing in the work of declaring the good news of the Kingdom and staying neutral in the affairs of earthly kingdoms.​—Matthew 24:14.


The apostle Peter declared: “There is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Acts 4:12) Previously, Peter had said to a lame man: “In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk!” And the man walked. (Acts 3:6) Jesus told his followers that they should pray ‘in his name.’ (John 14:14) When we use Jesus’ name in our prayers, we are not reciting a mere formula. Rather, we are petitioning that the high power and authority of Jesus Christ be used on our behalf.

By showing appropriate honor and respect for Jesus’ “name”​—his high position or authority—​we come to be among those of whom it is said: “Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”​—Philippians 2:11.

I don't see how this goes against what I said earlier. Despite Jesus being the “mediator” between God and men, he should never become an object to worship.

achorladey:


Do you BELIEVE TRINITARIANS agree with the BELOW? as captured in captured in a Watchtower in the image shown BELOW.

The apostle Paul said that “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.” (Philippians 2:10) This is not just a token thing. Jesus warned that many would claim to do mighty works in his “name,” but he would not recognize them. (Matthew 7:21-23) Truly to ‘bend the knee’ in Jesus’ name means recognizing his position and fully submitting oneself to his authority. Today, it means being subject to him as King, sharing in the work of declaring the good news of the Kingdom and staying neutral in the affairs of earthly kingdoms.​—Matthew 24:14.


The apostle Peter declared: “There is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Acts 4:12) Previously, Peter had said to a lame man: “In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk!” And the man walked. (Acts 3:6) Jesus told his followers that they should pray ‘in his name.’ (John 14:14) When we use Jesus’ name in our prayers, we are not reciting a mere formula. Rather, we are petitioning that the high power and authority of Jesus Christ be used on our behalf.

By showing appropriate honor and respect for Jesus’ “name”​—his high position or authority—​we come to be among those of whom it is said: “Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”​—Philippians 2:11.

I'm beginning to believe you are cunning apostate. That's too bad really.

achorladey:


Do you BELIEVE TRINITARIANS agree with the BELOW? as captured in captured in a Watchtower in the image shown BELOW.

The apostle Paul said that “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend.” (Philippians 2:10) This is not just a token thing. Jesus warned that many would claim to do mighty works in his “name,” but he would not recognize them. (Matthew 7:21-23) Truly to ‘bend the knee’ in Jesus’ name means recognizing his position and fully submitting oneself to his authority. Today, it means being subject to him as King, sharing in the work of declaring the good news of the Kingdom and staying neutral in the affairs of earthly kingdoms.​—Matthew 24:14.


The apostle Peter declared: “There is not another name under heaven that has been given among men by which we must get saved.” (Acts 4:12) Previously, Peter had said to a lame man: “In the name of Jesus Christ the Nazarene, walk!” And the man walked. (Acts 3:6) Jesus told his followers that they should pray ‘in his name.’ (John 14:14) When we use Jesus’ name in our prayers, we are not reciting a mere formula. Rather, we are petitioning that the high power and authority of Jesus Christ be used on our behalf.

By showing appropriate honor and respect for Jesus’ “name”​—his high position or authority—​we come to be among those of whom it is said: “Every tongue should openly acknowledge that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father.”​—Philippians 2:11.

Now since you visit jw.org often, I admonish you to follow this link and read the article extensively.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1994923

Maximus69:


Your bitterness against the fine works of God's holy spirit means nothing to those seeking the TRUTH, you're here to argue whether Jehovah's Witnesses got the identity of Jesus correctly or not.
The same Jesus said those who are with him will be identified by the LOVE JOY and PEACE permeating their gathering, everyone globally can see that happening in the midst of JWs yet you're still bent on arguing that they never got the identity of the Prince of Peace.
Haba, why not try make your TRINITY God perform the needed task instead of arguing bitterly, profusely and blindly like this?

Bitterness?

DappaD:

We wonder what their supposed 3-in-1 God has promised them as his followers.

Oga, distractions. This is not what we are discussing.

DappaD:

I'm beginning to believe you are cunning apostate. That's too bad really.

Well glory be to God that you detected it yourself my brother, achorladey is one of the Apostates!

He knows nothing outside Watchtower publication, he will even quote the Awake or Watchtower magazine to answer those who need spiritual guidance, but he will tell you there are other places where you can get spiritual nourishment NOT only through the faithful and discreet slave!

Maximus69:


What you're looking for is arguments after your so called Church father's key TRINITY has failed to open the door to LOVE, JOY, PEACE, PATIENCE, GOODNESS, GENTLENESS, FAITH, MILDNESS and SELF-CONTROL in the midst of Trinitarians worldwide now all you want to do is argue.

Abegi Apostle Paul said "once you have noticed all these fruits in any group, Please! Please!! Please!!! Don't think there is any law you can use AGAINST them!" Galatians 5:22-23

A word is enough for the wise!

pharisee false jw max

you and other false jw's are here posting every day, every week, every month,
in many posts, and in many threads, posting against what christians believe

but you are not arguing, they are arguing for posting against your false beliefs, how pathetic you are



liar and hypercrit, your fruits are well seen, and you are known by them:

Mat_7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

Maximus69:


Your bitterness against the fine works of God's holy spirit

hoopernikao:


Bitterness?

false jw max and other false jw's are always falsely accusing and lying against christians
it is their way, they take after their father:

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

DappaD:

Now since you visit jw.org often, I admonish you to follow this link and read the article extensively.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1994923

He will not my brother, what he's here to tell you is that there is no Organization in God's word so you shouldn't centralize the teaching of God's word on one group!

Imagine the Apostate saying "the Christendom Churches have high regards for Jesus" yet they're not prepared to drop weapons of war, they're still killing one another at the order of worldly politicians who are fighting for worldly positions!

The market people are here!

johnw47:





false jw max and other false jw's are always falsely accusing and lying against christians
it is their way, they take after their father:

Rev 12:10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

DappaD:

We wonder what their supposed 3-in-1 God has promised them as his followers.

Of course their TRINITY God promised them that part of their divided groups (denominations as they often call themselves) will perform greater miracles than Jesus did but when Covid19 came, their hopeless holy ghost went into exile!

DappaD:

Now since you visit jw.org often, I admonish you to follow this link and read the article extensively.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1994923

Oga I have read it EXTENSIVELY and here is WHAT I found which I will still ask you one more TIME. Do TRINITARIANS accept the BELOW as captured in the material you asked me to READ? Do the TRINITARIANS accept those words in bold form?


Do the words “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend” mean that we are to pray to him? No. The Greek phrase here involved “denotes the name upon which those that bow the knee unite, on which united all (πᾶν γόνυ) worship. The name which Jesus has received moves all to united adoration .” (A Grammar of the Idiom of the New Testament, by G. B. Winer) Indeed, for a prayer to be acceptable, it must be presented “in the name of Jesus,” but it is, nevertheless, addressed to Jehovah God and serves to his glorification. For this reason, Paul says: “In everything by prayer and supplication along with thanksgiving let your petitions be made known to God.”​—Philippians 4:6

DappaD:

I'm beginning to believe you are cunning apostate. That's too bad really.

Apostates because I showed you some content of what the magazines the ORGANIZATION you are a member produced week in week out.

Should I ask you how is APOSTASY related to the post I made so far now your tune will change.

DappaD:

Now since you visit jw.org often, I admonish you to follow this link and read the article extensively.
https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1994923

When I brought a material out from the same website you SHOUT APOSTASY! Now you are sending me BACK to the same website as it seem your SHOUT of APOSTASY will not come to an END.

Then,

How do you ADMONISH apostates when you are not allowed to talk to THEM or in another word SHUN them or as the ORGANIZATION use to call them MENTALLY DISEASED?

Maximus69:


Of course their TRINITY God promised them that part of their divided groups (denominations as they often call themselves) will perform greater miracles than Jesus did but when Covid19 came, their hopeless holy ghost went into exile!

I think it's hightime I agreed with people that some of you in JW aren't Christians. Using bible is not enough evidence to show as Christian. It is obvious that something is missing somewhere which you need to seek. The salvation of your soul is supreme, take heed to it.

Maximus69:


He will not my brother, what he's here to tell you is that there is no Organization in God's word so you shouldn't centralize the teaching of God's word on one group!

Imagine the Apostate saying "the Christendom Churches have high regards for Jesus" yet they're not prepared to drop weapons of war, they're still killing one another at the order of worldly politicians who are fighting for worldly positions!

Maximus69: He will not my brother

Achorladey: When your brother comes back he will tell more about the HE WILL NOT SAGA. Na your WAY

Maximus69: Imagine the Apostate saying "the Christendom Churches have high regards for Jesus" yet they're not prepared to drop weapons of war, they're still killing one another at the order of worldly politicians who are fighting for worldly positions!

Achorladey: Just say NO that CHRISTENDOM CHURCHES don't have high REGARD for JESUS. That will be short and precise. Those you see as going to CHRISTENDOM CHURCHES are here. They will hold you for it.

Then

Killing with YOUR MOUTH and getting battle ready to go to WAR to fight and kill. Which is faster? Which carries a lot of STRESS?

Maximus69:



Well glory be to God that you detected it yourself my brother, achorladey is one of the Apostates!

He knows nothing outside Watchtower publication, he will even quote the Awake or Watchtower magazine to answer those who need spiritual guidance, but he will tell you there are other places where you can get spiritual nourishment NOT only through the faithful and discreet slave!

That post still dey bite your mind sotey you cannot bring it back

hoopernikao:


I think it's hightime I agreed with people that some of you in JW aren't Christians. Using bible is not enough evidence to show as Christian. It is obvious that something is missing somewhere which you need to seek. The salvation of your soul is supreme, take heed to it.

Mr Maximus69 says they have abandoned the name CHRISTIAN because CHRISTENDOM has BASTARDIZED it. The reason they adopt JW as the new name with DIVINE INSPIRATION.

What baffles me is since he agreed that the name has been BASTARDIZED why do the leaders of the ORGANIZATION still use CHRISTIAN congregation of Jehovah's witnesses?

DappaD:

I don't see how this goes against what I said earlier. Despite Jesus being the “mediator” between God and men, he should never become an object to worship.

Since it does not go against what you said earlier. You could have answered the QUESTION contained in the post.

Maximus69:
The market people are here!

pharisee false jw max
of course you have nothing honest to say

achorladey:


Oga I have read it EXTENSIVELY and here is WHAT I found which I will still ask you one more TIME. Do TRINITARIANS accept the BELOW as captured in the material you asked me to READ? Do the TRINITARIANS accept those words in bold form?


Do the words “in the name of Jesus every knee should bend” mean that we are to pray to him? No. The Greek phrase here involved “denotes the name upon which those that bow the knee unite, on which united all (πᾶν γόνυ) worship. The name which Jesus has received moves all to united adoration .” (A Grammar of the Idiom of the New Testament, by G. B. Winer) Indeed, for a prayer to be acceptable, it must be presented “in the name of Jesus,” but it is, nevertheless, addressed to Jehovah God and serves to his glorification. For this reason, Paul says: “In everything by prayer and supplication along with thanksgiving let your petitions be made known to God.”​—Philippians 4:6

In Jesus' time, the Pharisees believed in the law of Moses but that didn't make them rightly disposed for everlasting life. The Samaritan woman who met Jesus once knew the signs that would indicate who the Messiah was but that didn't make her at the time rightly disposed for everlasting life. Likewise today, that people know God exists and Jesus came to the earth is not enough for them to gain everlasting life. Read John 17:3 please, it reads “This means everlasting life, their coming to know you[footnote: their taking in knowledge of you], the only true God[Jehovah], and the one whom you sent, Jesus Christ.” That Bible verse shows the clear distinction between God and his son, Jesus. You think people believing that God is a trinity will gain everlasting life? When that isn't the accurate knowledge?

Show me another organization in the world that readily makes use of God's personal name, Jehovah? (Psalm 83:18)
Romans 10:13 reads, “Everyone who calls on the name of Jehovah will be saved” you think organizations denying or hiding God's name as Jehovah will come any closer to gaining everlasting life?

Again, since you are making distinctions, show me another organization in this world that believes only God's Kingdom can solve all of mankind's problems(Daniel 2:44). While the religions of the world prostitute with the world leaders, run for political offices and keep alliances with the nations, thinking they can bring peace and security and prosperity to the world, will you one day see any Jehovah's Witness partaking in such nonsense?(Isaiah 2:4) We, as true Christians know it is only God's Kingdom who can put an end to all of the suffering, bad governments and stubborn people who refuse to acknowledge Jehovah and his Son Jesus Christ in the world today. (Isaiah 65:17, 66:22; Matthew 6:9,10; Romans 2:8; 2Peter 3:7,13; 2Thessalonians 1:7-10; Revelation 21:3,4)

achorladey:


Apostates because I showed you some content of what the magazines the ORGANIZATION you are a member produced week in week out.

Should I ask you how is APOSTASY related to the post I made so far now your tune will change.

Oga if you have nothing better to do, stay one place and stop quoting my messages again!

Rozz:
When it comes to religious matters we have to use our heads sometimes.Trinity, in Christian doctrine is the unity of the father ,son and holy spirit as three persons in one Godhead. The doctrine of the Trinity is considered to be one of central christian affirmations about God. It is rooted in the fact that God came to meet christians in a threefold figure as (1) There creator,Lord,Father and judge as revealed in the old testament (2)as the lord who incarnated in figure of Jesus Christ who lived among human beings (3)As the holy spirit whom they experienced as the helper or intercessor in the power of new life.But neither the word Trinity nor the explicit doctrine appears in the New Testament.Did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Hebrew scriptures(Deutronomy 6:4).I have started asking my pastors some questions regarding that,but he only warned me to be very careful of JW. lol

Your thoughts are in order

achorladey:


When I brought a material out from the same website you SHOUT APOSTASY! Now you are sending me BACK to the same website as it seem your SHOUT of APOSTASY will not come to an END.

Then,

How do you ADMONISH apostates when you are not allowed to talk to THEM or in another word SHUN them or as the ORGANIZATION use to call them MENTALLY DISEASED?

I give scriptural basis for all I say, but you and your followers here prefer to speak from your own hearts without providing any scriptural back up. That's too bad.

achorladey:


Mr Maximus69 says they have abandoned the name CHRISTIAN because CHRISTENDOM has BASTARDIZED it. The reason they adopt JW as the new name with DIVINE INSPIRATION.

What baffles me is since he agreed that the name has been BASTARDIZED why do the leaders of the ORGANIZATION still use CHRISTIAN congregation of Jehovah's witnesses?

You literally have no argument here. If you're an apostate, Jehovah still wants you to become part of his flock. Our prayers are with you.

DappaD:

You literally have no argument here. If you're an apostate, Jehovah still wants you to become part of his flock. Our prayers are with you.

Had you tell me the meaning of APOSTASY, You will know whether I am part of JEHOVAH'S flock or not. Do you see TRINITARIANS as apostate?

The platform still remain FORUM, Nairaland FORUM not NAIRALAND ARGUMENT.

DappaD:

I give scriptural basis for all I say, but you and your followers here prefer to speak from your own hearts without providing any scriptural back up. That's too bad.

You gave me an assignment to read a material which I did and reported my findings back to you and returned my previous QUESTION which you didn't answer.

The same scriptural basis is what I have raised QUESTIONS upon, you decide to look elsewhere. Its not a problem of MINE.

DappaD:

Oga if you have nothing better to do, stay one place and stop quoting my messages again!

sorry and no vex Oga