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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Nobody: 7:18pm On Jun 15, 2020
madakiagwom:
Hello everyone, can my Msc education timeline be the same period for the 3 years work experience I am using. I am actually a Graduate Assistant in a federal university and I acquired my MSc in another university where I studied for 3 years. I left for postgraduate studies 5months after my appointment. Can I claim 3 years of work experience in the university despite the fact that I was running my MSc in another country. My HOD can give me the work reference.

I don't think it's about whether your HOD is willing to give you a reference or about whether you were paid but rather about whether you were actually performing the graduate assistant duties in the said letter.

If you were, abeg carry go....no problem.

If you weren't, then don't do it. For your conscience sake, for the sake of money lost if you are found out and rejected and for the sake of others coming after you who will have a tougher time with VOs' extra scrutiny.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by BNTtech: 7:26pm On Jun 15, 2020
Hello @Slye.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Allylic(f): 8:32pm On Jun 15, 2020
MayorOfEdmonton:
Hi,

1) Yes

2) Check their website there is a "request for remark" interface, u will download the EOR form fill, go back to the website and upload the filled form.
You will pay online/bank and attach evidence of payment...you will get email notification to acknowledge ur request. Cheers
P.S:
No need to go to their office.

Thank you so much. I appreciate
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Francieuche: 8:33pm On Jun 15, 2020
Abeg who wrote ielts with mod on 30th of may 2020 who hasn't seen their results
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by iwinosajack: 8:47pm On Jun 15, 2020
madakiagwom:
Hello everyone, can my Msc education timeline be the same period for the 3 years work experience I am using. I am actually a Graduate Assistant in a federal university and I acquired my MSc in another university where I studied for 3 years. I left for postgraduate studies 5months after my appointment. Can I claim 3 years of work experience in the university despite the fact that I was running my MSc in another country. My HOD can give me the work reference.

Were u working as graduate assistant & studying part time at the other school

The question is not whether you were paid during the period but did u also perform the duties?? Had it been that you got ur msc from the same school u are working at or within the same country, that can easily fly.

Mind u, the vo is gonna scrutinize the reasons why an organization that spent so much money to train u (with the expectation that you will come back to work for them) would actively support u to become a pr in another country immediately you returned from study leave. That scrutiny will go beyond ur HOD.

I’m not expressly saying that it’s not gonna work; but that it’s a long shot

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by NaijaGoingMaple: 9:16pm On Jun 15, 2020
That's not relevant to PR decision if the applicant satisfies the requirements. However, should paid study leave count as work experience? My take.. if employed to undertake a research Masters, then it may qualify. Otherwise, you can't have job description as a grad assistant different from your current study. Here the Masters was even done in another school which could call to question the acceptability of the job experience, School "A" may not employ you, and your supposed work experience (Masters) from School "B"

iwinosajack:


Mind u, the vo is gonna scrutinize the reasons why an organization that spent so much money to train u (with the expectation that you will come back to work for them) would actively support u to become a pr in another country immediately you returned from study leave. That scrutiny will go beyond ur HOD.

Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by drdams: 9:21pm On Jun 15, 2020
sanwoolueko:
is "since you clock 18 years old" specified anywhere for work experience?

nop
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by iwinosajack: 9:32pm On Jun 15, 2020
NaijaGoingMaple:
That's not relevant to PR decision if the applicant satisfies the requirements. However, should paid study leave count as work experience? My take.. if employed to undertake a research Masters, then it may qualify. Otherwise, you can't have job description as a grad assistant different from your current study. Here the Masters was even done in another school which could call to question the acceptability of the job experience, School "A" may not employ you, and your supposed work experience (Masters) from School "B"


Did i say it is “relevant to PR decision “? No! What i am saying is that the vo will scrutinize the reference letter from the HOD to make sure it’s from the school authorities.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by oyukuwife: 9:34pm On Jun 15, 2020
Good evening house. Please this question is for noun graduate can masters degree be done in a year in noun and how fast do they respond to Wes in aspects of verification. I have checked for this on google but I dint find a suitable answer. Please help out am trying to make some important decisions
Thank you
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Tyola(m): 10:17pm On Jun 15, 2020
iwinosajack:


Did i say it is “relevant to PR decision “? No! What i am saying is that the vo will scrutinize the reference letter from the HOD to make sure it’s from the school authorities.

NaijaGoingMaple:
That's not relevant to PR decision if the applicant satisfies the requirements. However, should paid study leave count as work experience? My take.. if employed to undertake a research Masters, then it may qualify. Otherwise, you can't have job description as a grad assistant different from your current study. Here the Masters was even done in another school which could call to question the acceptability of the job experience, School "A" may not employ you, and your supposed work experience (Masters) from School "B"

iwinosajack:


Were u working as graduate assistant & studying part time at the other school

The question is not whether you were paid during the period but did u also perform the duties?? Had it been that you got ur msc from the same school u are working at or within the same country, that can easily fly.

Mind u, the vo is gonna scrutinize the reasons why an organization that spent so much money to train u (with the expectation that you will come back to work for them) would actively support u to become a pr in another country immediately you returned from study leave. That scrutiny will go beyond ur HOD.


Amanee:


This has a huge fishy stink


You better stick to the truth

I've been working in a university for almost a decade now. University job is not solely teaching, but it also covers research and development. MSc study is part of his research duties to the university. Based on the rules and guidelines of working in a university, he has worked for three years. He is not doing anything fishy.

The main responsibility of a graduate assistant is to ensure he runs his/her research towards earning an MSc degree within the first three years of employment. Some universities will even terminate your appointment if you fail to earn an MSc within the first three years. Although he/she is on study leave, such a person is expected to affiliate his/her publications to his Uni. This covers his duty of "conducting research" If he has assisted in teaching during his first few months or when he comes for holidays (In my Uni we don't allow grad assistants to teach), his HOD can add that to his duties in the reference letter. He is expected to conduct any duty assigned to him by the HOD (for example while studying, depending on the level of understanding between the staff, you may be asked to assist with editing articles for journals hosted by the department, assisting with preparation for conference to be hosted by your dept, etc)

In recap, while he is filing for promotion, the years he spent on study leave will be counted as part of his years of experience, that is why NUC recommended that an academic staff on study leave could be promoted once while on fellowship. Thus his three years is part of his years of experience.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by YesLadyN: 10:19pm On Jun 15, 2020

Yes a study leave was granted with full payment of monthly salary and there are payslips and salary bank statements to backup.

As someone in a similar position, I don’t think you have any issue claiming 3years experience as long as your research is relevant to fulfilling your role as a GA. In fact you cannot progress in academics without further studies.

And in actual sense, while you were away gathering requisite postgraduate experience for your job, the university recognized you as their full-time staff. You were still EMPLOYED! Therefore, your job description during that 3-year period is covered by, and the same as your PG experience.

More so, if you have to sum your total work experience in academia, you wouldn’t subtract your years of study leave, will you?

Be convinced of these facts and present a strong justification in your LOE for the VOs review. Let the VO see a strong link below your job description as a GA and any technical skill learned/applied during your research.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by YesLadyN: 10:22pm On Jun 15, 2020
Tyola:






I've been at the university for almost a decade now. University job is not solely teaching, but it also covers research and development. MSc study is part of his research duties to the university. Based on the rules and guidelines of working at the university, he has worked for three years. He is not doing anything fishy.

The main responsibility of a graduate assistant is to ensure he runs his/her research towards earning an MSc degree within the first three years of employment. Some universities will even terminate your appointment if you fail to earn an MSc within the first three years. Although he/she is on study leave, such a person is expected to affiliate his/her publications to his Uni. This covers his duty of "conducting research" If he has assisted in teaching during his first few months or when he comes for holidays (In my Uni we don't allow grad assistants to teach), his HOD can add that to his duties in the reference letter. He is expected to conduct any duty assigned to him by the HOD (for example while studying, depending on the level of understanding between the staff, you may be asked to assist with editing articles for journals hosted by the department, assisting with preparation for conference to be hosted by your dept, etc)

In recap, while he is filing for promotion, the years he spent on study leave will be counted as part of his years of experience, that is why NUC recommended that an academic staff on study leave could be promoted once while on fellowship.


This is just it! Thumbs up

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by GeologistMajor: 10:30pm On Jun 15, 2020
YesLadyN:


As someone in a similar position, I don’t think you have any issue claiming 3years experience as long as your research is relevant to fulfilling your role as a GA. In fact you cannot progress in academics without further studies.

And in actual sense, while you were away gathering requisite postgraduate experience for your job, the university recognized you as their full-time staff. You were still EMPLOYED! Therefore, your job description during that 3-year period is covered by, and the same as your PG experience.

More so, if you have to sum your total work experience in academia, you wouldn’t subtract your years of study leave, will you?

Be convinced of these facts and present a strong justification in your LOE for the VOs review. Let the VO see a strong link below your job description as a GA and any technical skill learned/applied during your research.
Very true

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by GeologistMajor: 10:34pm On Jun 15, 2020
Tyola:






I've been working in a university for almost a decade now. University job is not solely teaching, but it also covers research and development. MSc study is part of his research duties to the university. Based on the rules and guidelines of working in a university, he has worked for three years. He is not doing anything fishy.

The main responsibility of a graduate assistant is to ensure he runs his/her research towards earning an MSc degree within the first three years of employment. Some universities will even terminate your appointment if you fail to earn an MSc within the first three years. Although he/she is on study leave, such a person is expected to affiliate his/her publications to his Uni. This covers his duty of "conducting research" If he has assisted in teaching during his first few months or when he comes for holidays (In my Uni we don't allow grad assistants to teach), his HOD can add that to his duties in the reference letter. He is expected to conduct any duty assigned to him by the HOD (for example while studying, depending on the level of understanding between the staff, you may be asked to assist with editing articles for journals hosted by the department, assisting with preparation for conference to be hosted by your dept, etc)

In recap, while he is filing for promotion, the years he spent on study leave will be counted as part of his years of experience, that is why NUC recommended that an academic staff on study leave could be promoted once while on fellowship. Thus his three years is part of his years of experience.
Thank you sir. This is so educative to me. I am also an academic staff of a university. smiley

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by NaijaGoingMaple: 10:45pm On Jun 15, 2020
You have written an excellent LOE.

Tyola:


...The main responsibility of a graduate assistant is to ensure he runs his/her research towards earning an MSc degree within the first three years of employment. Some universities will even terminate your appointment if you fail to earn an MSc within the first three years. Although he/she is on study leave, such a person is expected to affiliate his/her publications to his Uni. This covers his duty of "conducting research" If he has assisted in teaching during his first few months or when he comes for holidays.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by olajumoke15: 10:56pm On Jun 15, 2020
Hello, I am new on this trend but I really need assistance on how to go about applying for Canada Express entry...what is the first step to take...Moreover, is IELTS for Express entry the same as the one to apply for schools...shd in case a person does not score up to required score for Express entry, if she can divert it for school instead
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Nobody: 11:17pm On Jun 15, 2020
GeologistMajor:

Thank you sir. This is so educative to me. I am also an academic staff of a university. smiley
Only you, staff?
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by GeologistMajor: 11:20pm On Jun 15, 2020
olajumoke15:
Hello, I am new on this trend but I really need assistance on how to go about applying for Canada Express entry...what is the first step to take...Moreover, is IELTS for Express entry the same as the one to apply for schools...shd in case a person does not score up to required score for Express entry, if she can divert it for school instead
From my little knowledge the first step is ECA (educational certificate verification) then IELTS.
The type of IELTS used for immigration is the General G.
And no you cannkt use the General IELTS for study. (IELTS academic is used for study)

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by GeologistMajor: 11:23pm On Jun 15, 2020
listowell:

Only you, staff?
Sorry sir. What is wrong with my statement. Please enlighten me because I am still learning English language grin
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by aamstih: 11:25pm On Jun 15, 2020
Please, I do.

Realbutem:
@lastbornop
Anyone with tested and trusted Madonna contact for transcript, kindly share with me mbok...

Hi, if you still need this info you can pm me. I have the contact who helped me
from exams and records
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by BlestHanneSSG: 11:26pm On Jun 15, 2020
Tyola:


In recap, while he is filing for promotion, the years he spent on study leave will be counted as part of his years of experience, that is why NUC recommended that an academic staff on study leave could be promoted once while on fellowship. Thus his three years is part of his years of experience.

Weldone! You explanation has made it worth a try.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by ankaravillageng: 11:35pm On Jun 15, 2020
hello everyone
Please I am asking for a relative

We noticed his skilled job falls in level A (software engineer/designer) but requires university education,
The problem is he doesn't have a university education for this.
He actually passed through NIIT for a 3year diploma course, was meant to complete the final year in UK to be awarded the Bsc but due to unfortunate event could not afford to go. Since then he has been working as a software engineer/developer.

What are his options
Would he still be eligible for express entry.


Someone should please help me.
Thanks in anticipation
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by xdonmal: 1:46am On Jun 16, 2020
@slydog ............i am interested sir
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Stencil: 2:44am On Jun 16, 2020
Hi Guys!

I've just glanced through and seen what looks like a debate regarding claiming work experience points whilst studying. I haven't read all the details but I just wanted to let you know that YES YOU CAN.

I did it myself and countless others have done it successfully too. You can do this as long as it was outside Canada.

Please CLICK HERE to read more about this.

ps: When you do research, please make sure you're reading about FSW and not CEC.

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Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Pwinkle1(f): 4:20am On Jun 16, 2020
olajumoke15:
Hello, I am new on this trend but I really need assistance on how to go about applying for Canada Express entry...what is the first step to take...Moreover, is IELTS for Express entry the same as the one to apply for schools...shd in case a person does not score up to required score for Express entry, if she can divert it for school instead
Please visit Page 1 of this thread (possibly previous threads as well), it has all the juicy information you need to get started! You’re welcome wink
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Emerald86: 8:35am On Jun 16, 2020
cochtrane:

That's fine. Send a pm. Would be nice if we had more people though, so this can be maximized. We can come up with a convenient date.
I used to give tutorials here for free months ago. So, it'd be cool to do this again.



I tried sending you a mail but couldn't. I'm interested in being coached too
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Emerald86: 8:38am On Jun 16, 2020
Marykelly:
Good morning everyone, so I just checked my IELTS I had LRWS 9,8.5,7,7. Is it advisable I apply for a remark for my speaking?



Please share the material you used
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Emerald86: 8:39am On Jun 16, 2020
Olamiikunle:
Good morning all...
My first time commenting despite every day follow up.
Just got my IELTS result.
LRWS- 9, 8.5, 7, 8
I was super scared of writing because i did not have time to check for errors and was super nervous while writing. I even changed "Yours Faithfully" to "Yours Faithfuly" after convincing myself it is supposed to be single L. But i was confident of paraphrasing, answering all task, relevant examples and word count. I hope this helps everyone struggling with writing..make sure you have those four factors done successfully.
For Listening, practice with ieltsonline.com. i had done the whole part 4 word for word just 2days to the exam, so that is 10 questions with no hassles.
Above all, glory be to God for He is the One who did it.
I hope for favourable draw.
And success in all our canny journey.
Happy weekend everyone




Mod or Bc?
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by BibiKK: 8:40am On Jun 16, 2020
Thanks for your prompt answer.
I have HND.

I will like to know more about those courses, what's their duration like? I'm based in Abuja can I get a study centre here?


Abuja2canada:


IN MY OPINION

NOC 1241 with CRS 395 should rewrite ielts, max out ,do a short course like cima/acca/bcs....he or she should be able to get 440/450 or thereabout if he or she has bsc already... 1241 usually pops up in demand...

about Certification .....most certification can only be gotten from the province which requires your presence but you only need the certification immediately if you want to try skilled trades.. otherwise you can get your ppr and get there and work towards certification.... IN MY OWN OPINION.
Re: Canadian Express Entry/federal Skilled Workers Program - Connect Here Part 9 by Abuja2canada: 8:45am On Jun 16, 2020
BibiKK:
Thanks for your prompt answer.
I have HND.

I will like to know more about those courses, what's their duration like? I'm based in Abuja can I get a study centre here?



its good as you have hnd ....evaluate both your certificates and it should read as two or more. with that you don't need any extra course.

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