johnw47:





lying pharisee max

because you false jw's are habitual liars
you think others are too, like you:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Maximus with his mouth said lying is not a sin, there is nothing wrong in lying.

I proceeded to ask if he will be teaching his children to lie, he dodges the question, posting smiling emoji with everything he says.

You are not the first religion lander saying this nor second, muttyleylaff can bear witness, quote from a particular lander " Maximus is a shameless lair, he will be caught lying and still proceed to tell another lie".

If you think lying is the way of proving your God exist, then know not all Christians are dumb because they chose to believe in a God they can not see.

GRIMMJOE:
Maximus with is mouth said lying is not a sin, there is nothing wrong in lying.

I proceeded to ask if he will be teaching his children to lie, he dodges the question, posting smile emoji with everything he says.

You are not the first religion lander saying this nor second, muttyleylaff can bear witness, quote from a particular lander " Maximus is a shameless lair, he will caught lying and still proceed to tell another lie".

If you think lying is the way of proving your God exist, then know not all Christians are dumb because they chose to believe in a God they can not see.

false jw's are among the biggest liars in the world,
did he realy say that @bold wow, God's word says diffrent:

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rozz:
Like he's trapped and needed help,he doesn't seems to understand himself and what he believes.He shall be saved sooner or later

Most of them claim they don't believe in God yet they want to apply the concept of God on their fellowman!

If we all say there is no Supreme Being (God) , how do we come to terms and conditions on rules of conduct that's not agreed upon in the absence of same line of thought?

Maximus69:




God's word called people who say "there is NO God" insane Psalms 10:4, 14:1
Not Maximus69!

Do you care to know what God also told the Muslims to call Christians and every non-muslim? INFIDEL.

And you want to know what he told them to do to you for not accepting Islam? KILL YOU.

So you really only sound naive when you insult others who don't share your belief. Because that's what religion does to you.

If you will only study your bible, if only, you will realize that God rejected the Jews just because of these same actions you keep portraying.

You're not a disciple of Christ clearly by your fruits. You're also not a soul-winner going through your posts cos you have not won one single soul on Nairaland.
In fact you keep giving people more reason to despise you and your ilk.

You're just another self-righteous Jew. (No offense to Jews)

GRIMMJOE:
Maximus with is mouth said lying is not a sin, there is nothing wrong in lying.

I proceeded to ask if he will be teaching his children to lie, he dodges the question, posting smile emoji with everything he says.

You are not the first religion lander saying this nor second, muttyleylaff can bear witness, quote from a particular lander " Maximus is a shameless lair, he will caught lying and still proceed to tell another lie".

If you think lying is the way of proving your God exist, then know not all Christians are dumb because they chose to believe in a God they can not see.

Walahi Talahi you're the funniest clown on planet earth!

You're saying "there is no Supreme Being (God)" yet you're trying to quote his rules!

Please tell me NOT from God's word because according to you "God doesn't exist" so which law says "LYING IS A CRIME?"

Myer:


Do you care to know what God also told the Muslims to call Christians and every non-muslim? INFIDEL.

And you want to know what he told them to do to you for not accepting Islam? KILL YOU.

So you really only sound naive when you insult others who don't share your belief. Because that's what religion does to you.

If you will only study your bible, if only, you will realize that God rejected the Jews just because of these same actions you keep portraying.

You're not a disciple of Christ clearly by your fruits. You're also not a soul-winner going through your posts cos you have not won one single soul on Nairaland.
In fact you keep giving people more reason to despise you and your ilk.

You're just another self-righteous Jew. (No offense to Jews)

Perhaps you don't realize that Jesus never wanted a crowd of faithless people {Luke 11:29} so if the words he speaks irritates you Jesus doesn't bother {John 6:60-67} only few are needed to repopulate the earth again just as it occurred in Noah's day! Luke 17:26

John 3:16-19, 14:6

Jesus was strict when he made those comments, so it's left to each person to find out WHAT Jesus meant and how should his followers apply his words.

I'm repeating it today, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i'm sorry for you

Maximus69:


John 3:16-19, 14:6

Jesus was strict when he made those comments, so it's left to each person to find out WHAT Jesus meant and how should his followers apply his words.

I'm repeating it today, if you're not one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i'm sorry for you

Exactly what Deeper Life, Redeemers, Celestians tell their members.

Exactly what Muslims tell their members.

Exactly what Buddhists tell their members.

Any thing new? Guess what you all think the others are wrong and you are the only one that is right.

It is really comical, if it wasn't too painful to watch cos people are literally dying for this.

Myer:


Exactly what Deeper Life, Redeemers, Celestians tell their members.

Exactly what Muslims tell their members.

Exactly what Buddhists tell their members.

Any thing new? Guess what you all think the others are wrong and you are the only one that is right.

It is really comical, if it wasn't too painful to watch cos people are literally dying for this.

I was a Muslim when i saw the light afar in the midst of JWs. Matthew 5:13-16
So instead of worrying yourself about what each religionist say, why not choose what appeals to you?
Abi you too what to propagate ATHEISM?

Maximus69:




God's word called people who say "there is NO God" insane Psalms 10:4, 14:1
Not Maximus69!

Are you the only one with religion book.

Rozz:
amen,thanks alot

Rozz what do you want in life.

Maximus69:


Walahi Talahi you're the funniest clown on planet earth!

You're saying "there is no Supreme Being (God)" yet you're trying to quote his rules!

Please tell me NOT from God's word because according to you "God doesn't exist" so which law says "LYING IS A CRIME?"

lying pharisee false accuser false jw mad max

perhaps there is no law in this world against lying
because satan is the god of this world, and he is the father of lies
and he is the father of you false jw's
that's why you told grimmjoe there is nothing wrong with lying:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

Rev 2:2  I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:

Maximus69:


The bolded is the reason why i'm pleading with you Sir!
Of course you can abuse, insult, curse even spit on Maximus69. Luke 12:10

But Please! Please!! Please!!!
Honour, Respect as in Fear the utterance of Jesus of Nazareth!
Who ever calls him Lord {Matthew 7:21} but despises his word will not be forgiven! Luke 6:45-46

If you're here like GRIMMJOE and you don't care about whatever orders Jesus gives, it's understandable. Psalms 10:4

But for you to call yourself a Christian yet ignoring the order from Jesus whom you call "LORD" is worse than that of GRIMMJOE who doesn't believe in God and saying it publicly!

However there is something Jesus told me when you (johnw47) call Max "mad"!

He ordered me to bless you in return! Luke 6:28

So johnw47, may God bless you!

You quote the Bible and called some one insane, when you're also called insane you says its yours that is more legit, smh

GRIMMJOE:
Are you the only one with religion book.

Some people knows better when it comes to handling it Sir! 2Timothy 2:15
That's what i saw amongst JWs, and that's what OP saw before opening this thread!

Maximus69:


You're welcome my dear, just remember what i always tell you:-

Paradise is not far but there are many as in so many rivers to cross!

God bless you!

The promise of a Paradise, just like any religion luring people into the religion with bullshít milk and honey.

Maximus69:


I was a Muslim when i saw the light afar in the midst of JWs.
So instead of worrying yourself about what each religionist say, why not choose what appeals to you?
Abi you too what to propagate ATHEISM?

Have you heard of the axiom, Live and Let Live?

If your religion works for you by all means continue practicing it.

You don't have to be self-righteous about it and telling everyone you're sorry for them.

Must I keep reminding you of what the bible teaches and commands you?

1 Thessalonians 4:11-12
That you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing.

Let your lifestyle be evangelism on its own.

It's almost sad watching you argue all day and night and not one soul to your credit. Rather everyone keeps despising you the more like a pain that won't go away.

johnw47:
and truly Christ wouldn't object to me calling a antichristian, mad

Well it is scriptures against scriptures.

Rozz:
it will benefit your life and your eternal life

How will it benefit my life and eternal life.

Maximus69:

God surely search people's heart { 2Chronicles 16:9} but God doesn't touch hearts of the wicked otherwise everyone's heart could have been touched!

Is any one more wicked than your Jehovah that kills baby.

Maximus69:

All he needs is to apply the same rules he's giving others to himself. He wants people to listen to him, and when you listen there is nothing he could offer as practical solution to the problems he is discussing.
OK someone presents a solution but GRIMMJOE feel like questioning the source of such practical application.
He doesn't want to hear of a Supreme Being whose intellect surpasses that of humans, yet he is crying day and night due to the problems on ground.
Please tell me what exactly does he want?

So God's word is absolutely right when it says "The wicked man is lazy to make any thorough research, all what he just want is his idea to be forced on everyone 'there is no God'" Psalms 10:4

What does a human want, watching a cat fight his reflection.

Rozz:
Like he's trapped and needed help,he doesn't seems to understand himself and what he believes.He shall be saved sooner or later

Any one that thinks clearly needs help...wtf
saved from what

Young lady you don't care of what I believe in, because I'm not promising everlasting life a decorated immortality.

GRIMMJOE:
You quote the Bible and called some one insane, when you're also called insane you says its yours that is more legit, smh

Take note that the Bible is what called those who say "there is no God" insane not Maximus! Psalms 10:4, 14:1

But johnw47 claims he believes in God and funny enough he claims Jesus is his Lord, so while discussing with someone who also profess to believe in God and Jesus now applies the word God use for those who doubt his existence on someone who claims to believe in God

That's why i'm quoting Jesus' words for him to correct himself, never will i quote Jesus' words for you as a correction since you don't even believe he exist!

That's the point Sir!

Myer:


Have you heard of the axiom, Live and Let Live?

If your religion works for you by all means continue practicing it.

You don't have to be self-righteous about it and telling everyone you're sorry for them.

Must I keep reminding you of what the bible teaches and commands you?

1 Thessalonians 4:11-12
That you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business, and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing.

Let your lifestyle be evangelism on its own.

It's almost sad watching you argue all day and night and not one soul to your credit. Rather everyone keeps despising you the more like a pain that won't go away.

You're quoting Paul's letter whereas you don't even believe in Paul's word!

Well Paul lived the rest of his life having serious issues with unbelievers, not because he is cursing, insulting, abusing or fighting anyone, but because they wanted Paul to admit his God will approve their different forms of worship and he keeps telling them "if you don't believe (trust) in Jesus, i'm sorry for you"!

I've told you times without number that i'm not interested in whether you like my post or not, Rozz for one had difficulty before grasping what i'm saying, now she feels Maximus69 closer to her even to the extent some have accused both of us as having secret affairs behind the scene!

So it's not QUANTITY that we want our Master Lord and King Jesus wants QUALITY Sir!

Maximus69:


You're quoting Paul's letter whereas you don't even believe in Paul's word!

Well Paul lived the rest of his life having serious issues with unbelievers, not because he is cursing, insulting, abusing or fighting anyone, but because they wanted Paul to admit his God will approve their different forms of worship and he keeps telling them "if you don't believe (trust) in Jesus, i'm sorry for you"!

I've told you times without number that i'm not interested in whether you like my post or not, Rozz for one had difficulty before grasping what i'm saying, now she feels Maximus69 closer to her even to the extent some have accused both of us as having secret affairs behind the scene!

So it's not QUANTITY that we want our Master Lord and King Jesus wants QUALITY Sir!

I see, now when it corrects you it is Paul's letter and not an Inspiration from God?

hoopernikao:


It has given me a clear view of things, how things are and will be. It can also provide such education for you.

Calling your illusion education, and tries to shove it down others throat.

hoopernikao:
The scriptures arent based on emotional issues. When you put your emotions in place you wont see what you are being taught. Facts arent changed by emotions. Facts of the scriptures are sacred.

Fact that Jehovah exist, fact that dragons exist.

hoopernikao:
I never told you that the scriptures is for stopping challenges, did i?

Then it's quite more useless now.

hoopernikao:
You still arent reading me well. You will really need to for you to learn something in this converse. Teaching provides wisdom for you and guidance which affects your daily living.

If the teaching is an illusion not so much.

hoopernikao:
On the issue of 5 years being raped, i am not in a position to decide or judge situations especially what i am not in it. There are a lot that happens when people face challenges, there are a lot unknown to us when people die, sadly, they are usually not available to give us the reality of the issue.

This is what you were to say and I actually liked it, it's a glorified " I don't know" but still OK, but then you ruined it.

hoopernikao:
Hence, when you see issues as the one you raised, it is wise to be wise in making conclusion. That wisdom to know and be able to differentiate is available for you now if you embrace it.

A very nasty 360, first it's unknown, but all of a sudden you have that knowledge, and you want me to have it too, smh, this is how you go back to your vomit, its no surprise when you read a book that's a contradiction you become one.

hoopernikao:
True and sincere judgement should be passed based on knowledge. For example now, if i ask you some questions about the death of the girl, you surely cant answer but you are in a rush to pass judgement on it and condemned others. Dont you think that is not good enough?

I'm only scrutinizing your religion, you have been indoctrinated through life being judge and condemned, now that's all you see, instead of two grown men having a discussion.

hoopernikao:
See, i know you are bothered with a lot of things and you have so many unexplained things on your mind especially about God,

I'm not bothered, I already explain the concept of a God intriguing, like watch a cat fight his reflection, if I can possibly ask this cat why I will, in this case I am.

hoopernikao:
this is the reason i decided to give you a small leeway to discuss without you pointing to scriptures. It is not my custom. Especially when you started your defence by attacking the scriptures. But it wont also be out of place to apologize for such. You err in that. So accept it and correct it that you dont attack or speak for what you dont know.

It's obvious your more interested with me accepting your opinion, so you can have some sort of relief, not happening.

hoopernikao:
And whatever is the issue you have at heart, i can confidently assure you that it can be straightened out if you calm down, be more open to know.

It's like the cat asking me, why I'm so bothered about him fighting his reflection if it's not a cat fighting back at him.

hoopernikao:
Side note: My count of question is 18 now, and i havent gotten even 1 answer from you. . If it is promotion exams now, you will score 18/18. .

Bro you should be happy I'm not embezzling you gullible lots, it easy money, makes me wonder the type of members you have, oh yes, gullible members.

As for the score, who made you examiner and me a student, is it Jehovah?

GRIMMJOE:
Rozz what do you want in life.

She wants to know the truth, now she can see how different set of groups are coming in here to discourage her due to the point she made with her post:
"I'm beginning to reason with Jehovah's Witnesses"

Rottennaija (ex JW)
Achorladey (disguised JW)
Myer (disguised Atheist)
GRIMMJOE (confused Atheist)
Johnw47 (Misinformed Churchgoer)
Freshboi88 (RCCG)
MuttleyLaff (Freethinker)
Somvayina (Freethinker)

And many others have been trying to tell her what she posted is bad yet all of you can't come together on one line of thought.
So i think the young lady can sense what i've been trying to tell her right from the onset, all of you are on the same side, only JWs are on the other side!

Myer:


I see, now when it corrects you it is Paul's letter and not an Inspiration from God?

If you understand Paul's letter, why not tell the forum the reason Paul had problems with fellow Jews all his life after becoming a Christian?

GRIMMJOE:
Is any one more wicked than your Jehovah that kills baby.

Go settle the score with all those claiming they believe in God!

Maximus69:


She wants to know the truth, now she can see how different set of groups are coming in here to discourage her due to the point she made with her post:
"I'm beginning to reason with Jehovah's Witnesses"

Rottennaija (ex JW)
Achorladey (disguised JW)
Myer (disguised Atheist)
GRIMMJOE (confused Atheist)
Johnw47 (Misinformed Churchgoer)
Freshboi88 (RCCG)
MuttleyLaff (Freethinker)
Somvayina (Freethinker)

And many others have been trying to tell her what she posted is bad yet all of you can't come together on one line of thought.
So i think the young lady can sense what i've been trying to tell her right from the onset, all of you are on the same side, only JWs are on the other side!

haha you are funny,lmao

hoopernikao:




You did not answer this but i will ask you.

I observed patiently that your knowledge and actions stemmed from a past issue or challenge that may likely have drawn you really far and start questioning God or His word. You may likely have been around His word before such issue happened. Your primary issues is not with the bible or Christians but with God. I know somewhere in your heart are many contemplation. Can you share them?

Sometimes what we have learnt or known or believed about a person may not truly be who the person is. Sometimes we read people's actions differently from who they truly are. I feel you may need to see things differently. So, i ask again, what exactly is the issue you have with God, i mean personally, what happened around you that cause such.

Even if you can state it here i am open to mails for us to discuss.

You think something happened, this way of thinking can only be influenced by indoctrine.

The same way interact here is the same way I interact with people that believes the earth is flat, sun is flat, moon is flat, and so called flat eathers.

Rozz:
haha you are funny,lmao

That's how Jesus often make jest of critics hypocritically forming alliance when they're infact not stable with their resolve!

GRIMMJOE:

Calling your illusion education, and tries to shove it down others throat.

Fact that Jehovah exist, fact that dragons exist.

Then it's quite more useless now.

If the teaching is an illusion not so much.

This is what you were to say and I actually liked it, it's a glorified " I don't know" but still OK, but then you ruined it.

A very nasty 360, first it's unknown, but all of a sudden you have that knowledge, and you want me to have it too, smh, this is how you go back to your vomit, its no surprise when you read a book that's a contradiction you become one.

I'm only scrutinizing your religion, you have been indoctrinated by your life being judge and condemned, now that's all you see, instead of two grown men having a discussion.

I'm not bothered, I already explain the concept of a God intriguing, like watch a cat fight his reflection, if I can possibly ask this cat why I will, in this case I am.

It's obvious your more interested with me accepting your opinion, so you can have some sort of relief, not happening.


It's like the cat asking me, why I'm so bothered about him fighting his reflection if it's not a cat fighting back at him.


Bro you should be happy I'm not embezzling you gullible lots, it easy money, makes me wonder the type of members you have, oh yes, gullible members.

As for the score, who made you examiner and me a student, is it Jehovah?

All your responses above still shows you aren't reading properly. It seems you are a person with rush blood. It is blurring your sight to see and read.

Firstly, anytime you refer to the bible ALWAYS give me the exact place you quote or refer to. That is being honest. Or are you afraid of tell me where they are or the contradictions? I have asked for this more than 5 times here.

Don't be a man full of energy without proper direction. You are accusing but no points. If you have been taught, exposed to lies, don't think that is for everybody. And what you should seek for is clarity. For over 24 hours now discussing with you, you can't lay out your facts properly for scrutiny. What are you afraid of exactly?

Secondly ,

Honesty is key, you are making me feel already that you aren't ready to be honest. And you are driven by false knowledge.


See what I wrote

Hence, when you see issues as the one you raised, it is wise to be wise in making conclusion. That wisdom to know and be able to differentiate is available for you now if you embrace it.

On the issue of 5 years being raped, i am not in a position to decide or judge situations especially what i am not in it. There are a lot that happens when people face challenges, there are a lot unknown to us when people die, sadly, they are usually not available to give us the reality of the issue

True and sincere judgement should be passed based on knowledge. For example now, if i ask you some questions about the death of the girl, you surely cant answer but you are in a rush to pass judgement on it and condemned others. Dont you think that is not good enough?

See what you said.

This is what you were to say and I actually liked it, it's a glorified " I don't know" but still OK, but then you ruined it.

A very nasty 360, first it's unknown, but all of a sudden you have that knowledge, and you want me to have it too, smh, this is how you go back to your vomit, its no surprise when you read a book that's a contradiction you become one.

Can't you see clearly, that you aren't reading and patient. Or either you can't simply understand simple explanations but at least read well.

You would rather prefer passing a judgement on people or things or situations that you don't even know or privy to. You will rather jump into conclusions. Is that being smart?

As per accepting my opinion, well do i desire you do, YES. Do I force you to? NO.

The reason I took time to be educating you is so that you can see clearly and I think that is not a crime but a blessing for you.


Lastly, you are scared and afraid to have a proper discussion. You are scared and afraid to be scrutinised, to check what you hold, to check your understanding of what you claim is contradictory, to see how knowledgeable you are in what you claim. You are afraid sir.

Why the fear. Or do you only want us to continue gisting as we are doing? I would rather you present your point properly, your claim intelligently and then fault the scriptures as you intend to. All I see from you is zigzag expressions like saying dragon, Jehovah, 5 years, metal, rest, don't rest, money etc. Is there any coordination in this?

There is difference between being confident you are right and defend it and having a personal beef with things. What you are holding is personal beef and no one can help you from that except you calm down and speak well.

So, you aren't speaking from the point of knowledge but from the point of hatred. And this is affecting your sight, your reading ability, your comprehension, your coordination and your judgement, if you don't check it, it will affect your daily living.

But the question is why the hatred, I am sure such question will be added to the list if unanswered questions by you.

@Rozz

Please just withdraw the post or change the topic or better still tell them
"JWs are evil people, i will never listen to them again"
So that all these noisy rivers will calmly pass by.

Remember what i told you

There are so many rivers to cross!

That's what my first friend amongst JWs told me back then, i told her i love her, she said "i love you too, but for you to and i to be together, it's like from one extremity of the earth to the other" then she looked into my face, mentioned my name three consecutive times saying

"There are many rivers to cross"

I couldn't understand what she meant back then until i met her some 30 years later at a convention of JWs, then i realized she was talking about the great chasm between JWs and other people,
after seeing all what i went through to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, i told her
"Funmilayo, now i know what you meant back then when you said 'there are many rivers to cross'"

So obstacles will come your way, enemies will stand to block you, your own habits that you're battling to leave behind is also there, but if you're determined to see all of them as RIVERS, the only thing that will come to your mind is "how do i cross and continue my journey?"

Paradise is not far my dear.

But there are many rivers to cross!