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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Empressgifted(f): 2:00pm On Jun 04, 2020
ieemmanuel:


All the outlets you CLAIM you visited, did you speak to the director yourself...I bet you submitted your application to a 3rd party...

since you explained to them that you have not gained experience, did you state you can either be paid or unpaid?

How long was your IT?



Thanks for replying, you might mean well but I'm done explaining myself, I just need anyone in a position to help that can accept my shortcomings.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Catalyst001(m): 9:15pm On Jun 04, 2020
TheManofTomorrow:

I checked out Evans Phamacology text but I wasnt really motivated to read to content. Maybe I will try again
Get Lippincott pharmacology or Katsung
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 10:38pm On Jun 14, 2020
This thread is about to die what's wrong?
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Nobody: 11:01pm On Jun 14, 2020
it dead n buried
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by jerryvyne(m): 1:52am On Jun 15, 2020
It can be resurrected..lol..lazarus situation likened

banjo022:
it dead n buried
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 8:41am On Jun 15, 2020
we should bring it back alive I beg, the medical thread is still booming arh let's do something.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 8:42am On Jun 15, 2020
embarassed
jerryvyne:
It can be resurrected..lol..lazarus situation likened

cry
jerryvyne:
It can be resurrected..lol..lazarus situation likened

Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Nobody: 9:07am On Jun 15, 2020
Good day everyone
pls.......can an average student in both mathematics and chemistry study pharmacy
I need urgent answer pls..
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by karbie(f): 10:35am On Jun 15, 2020
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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Carsons(m): 10:02pm On Jun 15, 2020
Bukkiminat:


Before a new session, yep.
Congratulations once again. How hard or easy is UI Pharmacy according to your experience? I'd like to be enlightened.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bukkiminat(f): 10:27pm On Jun 15, 2020
Carsons:

Congratulations once again. How hard or easy is UI Pharmacy according to your experience? I'd like to be enlightened.

I can't actually use any of those adjectives to describe it, I will rather say it was stressful.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Carsons(m): 10:40pm On Jun 15, 2020
Bukkiminat:


I can't actually use any of those adjectives to describe it, I will rather say it was stressful.
Okay, thanks ma
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bukkiminat(f): 7:09am On Jun 16, 2020
Carsons:

Okay, thanks ma

You can mail me if you have other questions. smiley
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 8:59am On Jun 16, 2020
christopher805:
Good day everyone
pls.......can an average student in both mathematics and chemistry study pharmacy
I need urgent answer pls..
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 8:59am On Jun 16, 2020
christopher805:
Good day everyone
pls.......can an average student in both mathematics and chemistry study pharmacy
I need urgent answer pls..
Men of honour answer this guy please.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Carsons(m): 9:44am On Jun 16, 2020
Bukkiminat:

You can mail me if you have other questions. smiley
Done that
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by aieromon(m): 9:48am On Jun 16, 2020
christopher805:
Good day everyone
pls.......can an average student in both mathematics and chemistry study pharmacy
I need urgent answer pls..

Yes you can. You only need to put in more effort to ensure that you stay above the pass mark of 50%.

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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jun 16, 2020
christopher805:
Good day everyone
pls.......can an average student in both mathematics and chemistry study pharmacy
I need urgent answer pls..
oh yes. you Just need to be hard-working, determined, tactful and ability to absorb pressure...

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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Lunah(f): 10:39am On Jun 17, 2020
Hello Pharmily!
Please, I'm in search of a Locum Pharmacist Job in Abuja.

Anyone knows any Premises that needs one?
I am available please.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 12:53pm On Jun 17, 2020
Tough moments in px school is inside dispensing lab in uniuyo. Trust me your eyes will start having sweat glands and secretions starts immediately. Im 500l now
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 2:18pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:
Tough moments in px school is inside dispensing lab in uniuyo. Trust me your eyes will start having sweat glands and secretions starts immediately. Im 500l now
see pharmacist ohh,anyways I rep unijos 3/6
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 3:13pm On Jun 17, 2020
Its quite good to meet you guys. Lets talk a little about career.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 3:16pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:
Its quite good to meet you guys. Lets talk a little about career.
I realise most of us don't know where to start from after school
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 3:19pm On Jun 17, 2020
Bapy:
see pharmacist ohh,anyways I rep unijos 3/6
pharmD I jux hope i'l have the vibe to do it after B.pharm.
I'm trying to see how military is

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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 3:57pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:

pharmD I jux hope i'l have the vibe to do it after B.pharm.
I'm trying to see how military is
Military isn't bad at all boss according to a pharm I met some times ago he's an Air force personnel.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 4:01pm On Jun 17, 2020
Bapy:
Military isn't bad at all boss according to a pharm I met some times ago he's an Air force personnel.
cool
Bapy:
Military isn't bad at all boss according to a pharm I met some times ago he's an Air force personnel.
just keeping my fingers crossed.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 4:01pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:
Its quite good to meet you guys. Lets talk a little about career.
lol this thread Is as dry as Sahara I don't know why
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 4:01pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:
cool just keeping my fingers crossed.
sure it'll end in praise.
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Shunbis(m): 8:16pm On Jun 17, 2020
Bapy:
lol this thread Is as dry as Sahara I don't know why
we can make it happen
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 11:02pm On Jun 17, 2020
Shunbis:

we can make it happen
Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Bapy(m): 9:54am On Jun 19, 2020
*How* *Pharmacists* *underdeveloped* *Pharmacy* *practice* : *Clinical* *Pharmacy* *on* *trial*

By Prof NN Wannang,
Dept of Pharmacology and Toxicology, University of Jos; Secretary General, WAPCP

I came up with this title when I heard the lamentation of a colleague of mine, an Associate Professor from Liberia who works in an international organization. He is so passionate about pharmacy and concluded that despite the frustration, his children/younger Pharmacists will benefit from his struggle. I saw wisdom. I saw passion. We discussed at length and the summary of the discussion is that Pharmacists underdeveloped Pharmacy practice.

Professions evolve with ever changing educational and practice landscape and needs. Pharmacy is not different! The introduction of clinical Pharmacy is the best for Pharmacy: To make or to Mar. To reclaim the Lost glory or to remain in perpetual stagnation. I appreciate the Universities that hooked on to the PharmD, I sincerely appreciate colleagues who in practice, showed zeal in promoting the profession. Quite many. I know a few in Portharcourt, Enugu, Benin, Abuja, Kano, Jos, Lagos etc


Now to the Crux of the matter. It is just not to hit our chest that we are clinical Pharmacists, but it is translational. It is time for action. Knowledge without practice is a waste.

For too long, we have been kicked around like adolescents who cannot discern their interest and act accordingly (apologies to Murtala Ramat Mohammed). We so much put our energy in believing that our growth is stunted by another profession when in actual sense, we are the culprit. I doubt if the other professionals were to blame for our precarious situation. In building our future, we should not sweep things under the carpet. but we will do well to place blames where they belong, we are a huge part of our serial tragedies.

I am convinced that things are changing. The emergence of CPAN (Clinical Pharmacists Association of Nigeria) is in itself a testimony that we are evolving for good. I enjoyed the presentations and responses. Our next best bet is to consider further action.

Those in the hospitals should immediately go into action in the wards. If the choice of 'ward rounds' offend our adversaries, let's call ours 'drug rounds'. During drug rounds our knowledge of pharmacokinetics, drug interaction, Pharmaceutical care, therapeutics, Toxicology must be exciting! Our skills and competencies must be put to bare. The choice of the word 'consultant' can change to 'specialist'. We need to be tactful. Our adversaries are more and better organized than us, let's massage their ego and achieve our dreams first. Confrontation gives no results in this present time. Bring what you have on the table and relevance will automatically be given to you!

My take to hospital Pharmacists
1. Consciously work on the physical. Dress appropriately. At this moment, communication starts from here. Supervisors and Heads should turn away colleagues who are not properly and professionally dressed. The seniors that do not dress professionally/decently (unfortunately we may see some), they can be maturely refered to the state PSN who could inturn use wisdom to call them to order. Remember, recalcitrant colleagues could be found!Lawyers are respected and called learned. They never downplayed dressing. My short and recent relationship with law opened my eyes to so many things (I recently became a lawyer). If I have my way, all male Pharmacists must wear neck ties, clean White lab coats with the Rx logo, have clean handkerchiefs always.
2. Let's not be shy, personal hygiene amongst colleagues should be encouraged. It couldn't have been mentioned at this age, but I have heard severally, where Pharmacists are said to be careless with personal hygiene. I was utterly embarrassed in one of my visits, when a nurse described that within the group of professionals in the hospital, one can predict whom a physician, nurse, Pharmacist, lab scientist is! Guess what: she ascribed us to 'shabbiness'. What an insult (sadly, true too)
3. Seminars should be encouraged with every seriousness it deserves: topics on leadership, communication and other soft skills. Then the weekly clinical cases- disease by disease, Monthly seminar on collaboration (let's take time to understand other colleagues: how they are fairing, their weaknesses and strengths). We will surely learn from others
4. Develop the habit of daily reading. My recent contact with Law, made me realize that Pharmacy is dying because of lack of quest for knowledge. Lawyers are daily challenged to read; at school, at Chambers, place of practice etc interns are better than most 'seniors' in terms of intellectual stamina. It is sad. We should be mentors
5. Daily drug rounds Should be a must for all Pharmacists- regardless of the number of persons on duty. You create relevance. The onus is on you to convince management that you need to have the drug rounds. But be intellectually ready for challenges. Be prepared. Upon return, a meeting with every team be done so that the teams brainstorm on observations and proffer solutions
6. Develop interest in research. As it is, clinical trials are done in Nigeria with least inputs from Pharmacists. Interest in research is the solution. Every hospital Should have a journal club. Have at least a journal so that every month, research results or case studies, investigation, intervention etc can be published (even if it is for internal circulation). The journal or bulletin can have stock levels of drugs (but never a priority- as the research purposes could be lost in it). Our hitherto position as store keepers should be a cruel reminder here.
7. Sales Representatives or Pharmaceutical companies should be mandated to sponsor furnishings of a common room (for cooperate image) for pharmacists. The room Should be comfortable. I have visited many facilities, probably not 10% can boast of having a comfortable relaxation rooms.
8. By our background, we were trained in silos and sadly now we practice in silos. This is not the way to go. We need each other, Pharmacists, physicians, nurses, scientists, nutritionists etc can work in collaboration and no position is usurped, nor under threat if you know your onion. Let's encourage collaboration (I presented a paper in Kenya, and I said collaboration can be professional and social; I further adviced that our unmarried colleagues should be encouraged to marry physicians! Though funny, but I believe it will help in appreciating our values)
9. As an African, name follows a person. That's why nobody bears Lucifer, satan etc. Let's consciously note: stop calling premises or pharmacies as shops. It is degrading. Lawyers have Chambers/law firms/law offices, physicians have clinics etc. How we arrived at 'shops' is an insult, better forgotten! Our clients became 'customers' haba. Similarly, let us announce our PharmD holders, call them boldly at any given opportunity as 'doctor', never Pharmacist doctor (no no no). Please note that MBBS holders are physicians and must be refered to as such. The title 'doctor' had been in error assumed to be sacrosanct to physicians (what a wrong precedence, an entropy). If my grandmother in the village now knows that 'doctor' of book exist, and 'doctor' of hospital exist, why should we ascribe 'doctor' to one profession in the hospital. So sad. I am not in anyway challenging the origin of the error, but we should not propagate mistakes. When you start doing the right thing, the society follows. Again and sadly too, we call our community Pharmacy as 'retail shop' etc. No no no. Let's help the profession

We need to come out of our cocoon. Relevance is not acquired; it is earned. As the late legendary Fela Anikulapo Kuti would say: carpenter wey know him work na kpako! Commissioner wey no know him work na suegbe! We should be kpako please. We are authorities. Let our work show our values. Nobody will help us, except ourselves. The abolition of Slave trade was not initiated by the whites. It was the revolt by the blacks that resulted in the freedom. Get up. Stand up. It is not a physical war. It is a mental war.

Easy way to freedom. Easy way to success. We can do it. Yes we can. If in every hospital/clinic we have one or two positive thinkers, the narrative will change. It is a process. You can begin it. Don't wait, begin the steps. May God open the eyes of your heart.

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Re: Pharmacists, Pharmacy Students And Interns. At Home Or Abroad, Let's Meet Here. by Carsons(m): 11:38pm On Jun 19, 2020
Bapy:
*How* *Pharmacists* *underdeveloped* *Pharmacy* *practice* : *Clinical* *Pharmacy* *on* *trial*

By Prof NN Wannang,
Dept of Pharmacology and Toxicology, University of Jos; Secretary General, WAPCP

I came up with this title when I heard the lamentation of a colleague of mine, an Associate Professor from Liberia who works in an international organization. He is so passionate about pharmacy and concluded that despite the frustration, his children/younger Pharmacists will benefit from his struggle. I saw wisdom. I saw passion. We discussed at length and the summary of the discussion is that Pharmacists underdeveloped Pharmacy practice.

Professions evolve with ever changing educational and practice landscape and needs. Pharmacy is not different! The introduction of clinical Pharmacy is the best for Pharmacy: To make or to Mar. To reclaim the Lost glory or to remain in perpetual stagnation. I appreciate the Universities that hooked on to the PharmD, I sincerely appreciate colleagues who in practice, showed zeal in promoting the profession. Quite many. I know a few in Portharcourt, Enugu, Benin, Abuja, Kano, Jos, Lagos etc


Now to the Crux of the matter. It is just not to hit our chest that we are clinical Pharmacists, but it is translational. It is time for action. Knowledge without practice is a waste.

For too long, we have been kicked around like adolescents who cannot discern their interest and act accordingly (apologies to Murtala Ramat Mohammed). We so much put our energy in believing that our growth is stunted by another profession when in actual sense, we are the culprit. I doubt if the other professionals were to blame for our precarious situation. In building our future, we should not sweep things under the carpet. but we will do well to place blames where they belong, we are a huge part of our serial tragedies.

I am convinced that things are changing. The emergence of CPAN (Clinical Pharmacists Association of Nigeria) is in itself a testimony that we are evolving for good. I enjoyed the presentations and responses. Our next best bet is to consider further action.

Those in the hospitals should immediately go into action in the wards. If the choice of 'ward rounds' offend our adversaries, let's call ours 'drug rounds'. During drug rounds our knowledge of pharmacokinetics, drug interaction, Pharmaceutical care, therapeutics, Toxicology must be exciting! Our skills and competencies must be put to bare. The choice of the word 'consultant' can change to 'specialist'. We need to be tactful. Our adversaries are more and better organized than us, let's massage their ego and achieve our dreams first. Confrontation gives no results in this present time. Bring what you have on the table and relevance will automatically be given to you!

My take to hospital Pharmacists
1. Consciously work on the physical. Dress appropriately. At this moment, communication starts from here. Supervisors and Heads should turn away colleagues who are not properly and professionally dressed. The seniors that do not dress professionally/decently (unfortunately we may see some), they can be maturely refered to the state PSN who could inturn use wisdom to call them to order. Remember, recalcitrant colleagues could be found!Lawyers are respected and called learned. They never downplayed dressing. My short and recent relationship with law opened my eyes to so many things (I recently became a lawyer). If I have my way, all male Pharmacists must wear neck ties, clean White lab coats with the Rx logo, have clean handkerchiefs always.
2. Let's not be shy, personal hygiene amongst colleagues should be encouraged. It couldn't have been mentioned at this age, but I have heard severally, where Pharmacists are said to be careless with personal hygiene. I was utterly embarrassed in one of my visits, when a nurse described that within the group of professionals in the hospital, one can predict whom a physician, nurse, Pharmacist, lab scientist is! Guess what: she ascribed us to 'shabbiness'. What an insult (sadly, true too)
3. Seminars should be encouraged with every seriousness it deserves: topics on leadership, communication and other soft skills. Then the weekly clinical cases- disease by disease, Monthly seminar on collaboration (let's take time to understand other colleagues: how they are fairing, their weaknesses and strengths). We will surely learn from others
4. Develop the habit of daily reading. My recent contact with Law, made me realize that Pharmacy is dying because of lack of quest for knowledge. Lawyers are daily challenged to read; at school, at Chambers, place of practice etc interns are better than most 'seniors' in terms of intellectual stamina. It is sad. We should be mentors
5. Daily drug rounds Should be a must for all Pharmacists- regardless of the number of persons on duty. You create relevance. The onus is on you to convince management that you need to have the drug rounds. But be intellectually ready for challenges. Be prepared. Upon return, a meeting with every team be done so that the teams brainstorm on observations and proffer solutions
6. Develop interest in research. As it is, clinical trials are done in Nigeria with least inputs from Pharmacists. Interest in research is the solution. Every hospital Should have a journal club. Have at least a journal so that every month, research results or case studies, investigation, intervention etc can be published (even if it is for internal circulation). The journal or bulletin can have stock levels of drugs (but never a priority- as the research purposes could be lost in it). Our hitherto position as store keepers should be a cruel reminder here.
7. Sales Representatives or Pharmaceutical companies should be mandated to sponsor furnishings of a common room (for cooperate image) for pharmacists. The room Should be comfortable. I have visited many facilities, probably not 10% can boast of having a comfortable relaxation rooms.
8. By our background, we were trained in silos and sadly now we practice in silos. This is not the way to go. We need each other, Pharmacists, physicians, nurses, scientists, nutritionists etc can work in collaboration and no position is usurped, nor under threat if you know your onion. Let's encourage collaboration (I presented a paper in Kenya, and I said collaboration can be professional and social; I further adviced that our unmarried colleagues should be encouraged to marry physicians! Though funny, but I believe it will help in appreciating our values)
9. As an African, name follows a person. That's why nobody bears Lucifer, satan etc. Let's consciously note: stop calling premises or pharmacies as shops. It is degrading. Lawyers have Chambers/law firms/law offices, physicians have clinics etc. How we arrived at 'shops' is an insult, better forgotten! Our clients became 'customers' haba. Similarly, let us announce our PharmD holders, call them boldly at any given opportunity as 'doctor', never Pharmacist doctor (no no no). Please note that MBBS holders are physicians and must be refered to as such. The title 'doctor' had been in error assumed to be sacrosanct to physicians (what a wrong precedence, an entropy). If my grandmother in the village now knows that 'doctor' of book exist, and 'doctor' of hospital exist, why should we ascribe 'doctor' to one profession in the hospital. So sad. I am not in anyway challenging the origin of the error, but we should not propagate mistakes. When you start doing the right thing, the society follows. Again and sadly too, we call our community Pharmacy as 'retail shop' etc. No no no. Let's help the profession

We need to come out of our cocoon. Relevance is not acquired; it is earned. As the late legendary Fela Anikulapo Kuti would say: carpenter wey know him work na kpako! Commissioner wey no know him work na suegbe! We should be kpako please. We are authorities. Let our work show our values. Nobody will help us, except ourselves. The abolition of Slave trade was not initiated by the whites. It was the revolt by the blacks that resulted in the freedom. Get up. Stand up. It is not a physical war. It is a mental war.

Easy way to freedom. Easy way to success. We can do it. Yes we can. If in every hospital/clinic we have one or two positive thinkers, the narrative will change. It is a process. You can begin it. Don't wait, begin the steps. May God open the eyes of your heart.
Nice piece.

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