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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:09pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
DappaD:Trying to play the "your immature strategy" no bad. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:11pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
3 more pages to go, who knows I might stay a little longer the page counting a little bit too fast. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:13pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
hoopernikao:OK, but we already finished talking some pages back, with you admitting not knowing everything, so no need to engage each other anymore, thank you for being honest. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:42pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Rozz:I don't know if you have any emotions but here, a quote by Lordreed First off, I didn't make the videogame or the rules it follows. So you are blaming me the videogame player for the rules that the designer of the videogame made. Second, if I were a god I would not make such a universe as we currently have. This universe is uncaring, unfeeling and spares no thought for your sensibilities. The vagaries of life could set you up for death or dismemberment the very next second. This is the universe you think your god made and you want to celebrate your blood thirsty god idea like it's the epitome of morality. I would be a god and I would use god powers, just like the one you can't explain, that's how I'd do it. LoL. In removing the power and desire to hurt other humans why would I need to follow your bloodthirsty god's trap setting methods? Your god deliberately sets traps so that it can wreak vengeance. I wouldn't be a bloody minded god so I don't need concepts like sin and abomination. Those are traps that your god set up so that he can find a reason to destroy. I as a god wouldn't need to play such bloody games. After removing the power or desire to hurt other humans you'd be hard pressed to see what humans would do that would deserve punishment on the scale your god likes. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:42pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
AntiChristian: i was talking about the false jw antichristian mad max |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:45pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
Maximus69: false jw mad max of course you are forever the liar 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:47pm On Jun 17, 2020 |
johnw47:A very shameless one at that. 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:14am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: lying pharisee mad max i believe in Jesus, the Lord and Saviour of the World you believe in a false jesus, a lord who is just a god just a angel with your jesus theres nothing wrong with lying with my Jesus, He is the TRUTH: Joh_14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. in other words i'm a Christian and truth is the way of my Jesus you are a deceived secrarian and lying is the way of you satans mob |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:21am On Jun 18, 2020 |
GRIMMJOE: there are places in the bible showing lying is sin but mad max taking after his daddy the devil cannot stop lying ever he is just like him 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:23am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: MuttleyLaff: mad max is obviously scared of your debating skills 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 1:08am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: talk about being misinformed you pharisee false jw mad max believe that there's nothing wrong with lying: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. this verse also talking about you: Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. also you know i'm not a churchgoer, but you just have to keep on lying, lying is the biggest part of your being, true isn't it it's your trade mark, just like it is your daddy's trade mark....john 8:44 above 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 2:06am On Jun 18, 2020 |
one of the things a person does when become a true christian is to do away with lying false jw's - satans mob, on the other hand glory in their lies as does their father the devil: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. Rev 2:2 I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 4:28am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Rozz: BEHOLD THE SHEEP AND THE GOATS Matthew 25:31-46 The concept of a Supreme Being is really something very tough and deep. All these people coming up with criticism are actually on the same page but the truth is if not for the intervention of God's holy spirit you can't know this. Note the description i gave each one of them and watch their attitude NOT where they thought they belong! When Paul said "Satan has blinded their minds so that the illumination of Christ who is the image of God may not shine through" {2Corinthians 4:4} it simply means they will be agitating over what is right but due to their rebelliousness they will not be able to sustain righteosness. Now take a closer look at each of them but this time with keen interest as to what each STAND for? Don't forget that what each claims he/she is standing for supposed to be his/her STANDard, please watch carefully perhaps the description i gave each one was wrong. Ex JW; Disguised JW; Disguised Atheist, Confused Atheist, Misinformed Churchgoer and Freethinker. Jesus compared the features of those following him to that of a domestic pet known as "SHEEP", this animal finds it really hard to do anything on it's own so a shepherd must be there to guide it, at the same time the shepherd will train some of the sheep to lead others, so when you see a flock of sheep, their movement is orderly, even in the absence of their Shepherd. WHY? Because they've been trained to recognize headship {1Corinthians 11:3} even when they're eating and the lead sheep trained to lead them moves, trust the sheep fold, all of them will move at once as if they're all satisfied. The direct opposite is the goat (another domestic pet), this one doesn't recognize headship even the smallest of them could turn against it's own mother so there is no order, each goat moves in the direction that soothes it, goats eat with all kinds of animals so they easily get in trouble. So in the same manner true followers of Jesus will be recognized by their orderly movement and the way they're well organized, they know whom to follow when it's time to feed {Psalms 23:2-3} in the absence of the group a sheep will not eat alone because they're scared of poison. After a thorough meditation on this illustration i found everything complete in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses just as Jesus said it would be! John 10 3-5,27 JWs believe in one single source of divine guidance so they don't eat anywhere (take in spiritual food indiscriminately) they recognize headship so they're orderly and well organized, they follow the same instructions as if someone invisible is leading all of them to the same place, they will not carry weapons for any reason whatsoever so like the sheep they're harmless, they don't mingle easily so you'll feel offended by their strictness but when they see their fellow JWs they do things like blood relations. The group leading them is called the Governing Body, these old men are like the central unit of control over the Organization just as Jesus had the same arrangement back then in the first century! Act 2:42 So watch and see if all those criticizing this faithful spiritual family knows who is leading them or what they stand for or better still if they have any STANDard? ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share
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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 5:53am On Jun 18, 2020 |
30 to 40 years ago, false jw's were preaching door to door that armageddon is very near(or whatever their exact jargon was) because there was very few of the elders who were bound for heaven still alive, and those very few were very old that was 30 to 40 years ago, but apparently one or more of those very few and very old elders must still be alive, they must be about 120 - 130 years old by now, laughing of course false jw's have always been pathetic liars: Mat 7:15 Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Mat 7:16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? Mat 7:17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. Mat 7:18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. Mat 7:19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. Mat 7:20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Rev_21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:43am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: This is articulate enough. Thanks Maximus! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:59am On Jun 18, 2020 |
johnw47: This alone proved Maximus69 an excellent observer. Surely Johnny is misinformed! John the baptist started preaching saying "the kingdom of heaven (God's government) is at hand (NEAR)!" Matt 3:2 When John saw the false religionists of his time he spoke as if their judgment was imminent! Matt 7-10 John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and all his Apostles are dead now for almost 2,000 years. Jesus said the message will continue until God's Kingdom (heavenly government) arrives. Ironically this Johnny claims to be one of Jesus' followers yet he is now the same person criticising, abusing, insulting even cursing those zealously mimicking the same message that John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and the first century Christians were saying back then! 2Peter 3:3-4 Maximus truly got it right, this one is surely a misinformed Churchgoer! ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:16am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: He wish to be a Christian but lacks the guts, he can't discuss mildly without being radical. Satan has blinded all of them with just one single word "Armageddon". When John the baptist came he never told anyone Jesus is the name of the one coming after him, when Jesus came he never told anyone Apostles will succeed him, when Apostle John wrote the book of Revelations he never told anyone that Jehovah's Witnesses will be the name of the group that will continue the message in the last days. So the word "Armageddon" is what is blurring their senses, had it been we say "Jesus is coming with his heavenly armies to destroy wicked people and those forcefully ruling the earth in a bad way" {Daniel 2:44} that will sound like what their Pastors too are saying. But just because God's word summarized Daniel 2:44 with the symbolic word "Armageddon" {Revelations 16:16} despite the fact that this is written in all Bible versions they're confused! ![]() My prayer to God for sincere ones amongst them is for their salvation, because i bear them witness that they have the zeal for God but not according to accurate knowledge! Romans 10:2-3 ![]() 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:28am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: Maximus! Maximus!! Maximus!!! ![]() ![]() ![]() You're simply amazing my brother! ![]() ![]() ![]() It's true! Johnny will not be offended if we say Jesus (the one he calls Lord) is coming to destroy evildoers! ![]() ![]() ![]() Hmmmmmmmm, may God continue to increase you in divine wisdom my brother Maximus! ![]() ![]() ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 8:38am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: lying pharisee false jw tatime you know like mad max does that i'm not a churchgoer but like mad max you cannot stop lying, of course: Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. the Kingdom of Heaven, the Kingdom of Christ, the Kingdom of God is the same thing there is not multiple kingdoms of God oh know nothing tat and when Jesus soon showed Himself, the Kingdom had arrived ask me and i will post commentaries that explain it far better than i and will refute any of your nonsense as for false jw's saying 30 to 40 years ago, armageddon will be here soon, they lied the very few and very old people of that time would be all dead and buried now mad max got nothing right mumu just like you don't |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:45am On Jun 18, 2020 |
johnw47: Is God's Kingdom that John the baptist, Jesus of Nazareth and his Apostles preached here or were still expecting it? ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 8:48am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: TATIME: lying pharises false jw's mad max and fellow know nothing paranoid tatime laughing, the blinded leading the blinded liars agreeing with liars 2Co_4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. Joh 8:44 Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:55am On Jun 18, 2020 |
johnw47: I thought you said "ask me" in the last post! ![]() So has the kingdom (John, Jesus and the first century Christians preached about) come or we're still expecting it? ![]() @Rozz! 2 Likes |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:09am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: lying pharisee false jw tatime im saying truth to you-satans mob, but am glad you feel criticised abused and insulted you deserve no less, oh mumu < really you are, truth |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:11am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: Good question Maximus69, please do not respond to his aggression, try to maintain focus. It's time to test and see how sincere Johnny is with himself, he will not answer because that will expose him as an enemy of TRUTH! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:13am On Jun 18, 2020 |
johnw47: It's OK Sir, please answer Maximus69, he asked you a question related to your argument! ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:16am On Jun 18, 2020 |
@ johnw47 Can you please answer this question? Maximus69: |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:23am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: now now lying false jw mad max, we know who the coward is, don't we, run run run runaway Maximus69: you see truth as radical, of course you do Maximus69: now come on copy cat mad max we know very well who the blinded are, don't we Maximus69: don't pray to your god satan for me, however he can do nothing just as you can't oh great plagirest, copying many of my true sayings and turning them into your lies 1 Like |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 9:33am On Jun 18, 2020 |
johnw47:He does that intentionally, filter all the part you don't like, like hell, and lie, then accept the part you like, like heaven and eternity. What still surprises me is how they stole someone else religion 2,000 years older, why not make your own religion and your own religious book. |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:36am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: yuk, oh please go get a room TATIME: of course i'm not offended that the Lord Jesus is coming to destroy you evildoers i know that He is TATIME: ugh sickly correction antichristian tatime when concerning false jw it is not: God, it is god, and really mad max truly does not have wisdom. getting things wrong is not wisdom, let alone divine wisdom you two are people pleasers at best, yuk yuk yuk |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:39am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: patience know nothing false jw, you can count on it |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:42am On Jun 18, 2020 |
TATIME: ha ha ha ha ha, what paranoid false jw queers you are |
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 9:46am On Jun 18, 2020 |
Maximus69: ![]() do you mob seriously think this christian won't reply to you and run away like you do funny |
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