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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Annael: 10:36am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


Get me right. Why would I as an investor worth 100mn usd put my money in Tanzania over Kenya? name any sector one would do that.
You can build a hotel in Tanzania. Because tourism sector bigger than Kenya.
Also Kenya is not a peaceful country to invest.
Political stability. Kenya is not stable.
Corruption in Kenya is normal. But in Tanzania corruption is dead.

From that point is better you build hotel in Tanzania than in Kenya.

Just few point.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Annael: 10:38am On Jun 18, 2020
Austine1212:


2017?
Is your turn now to show the muscles.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 10:42am On Jun 18, 2020
Kazikazi:
You are talking of Senegal with a 20 km electric rail which made them to shout to the roof? How is their tourism sector?
not every country are willing to developed their economic part toward tourism sector. Though Senegal tourism sector is still great.



I balanced country based on three factor. Energy consumption and capacity , health and education coverage. Senegal isn't your mate boy. This are what makes a great nation

If times higher education aren't partial to French university. You should be counting list of number of progressive academic institution from Senegal. Senegal is the knowledge house of west Africa francophone country .

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:42am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

Boy. You are in a darkness.
1. We are building Electrified SGR
2. We are building Hydro power dam
3. Our airline now is working
4. Our GDP this year grows by 6%
5. We are building a new city in Dodoma
6. We are building BRT phase ii And phase iii in dar es salaam
7. We are building 1.3km bridge passing through Indian ocean. Called Tanzanite bridge in Dar es salaam
8. We are building 3km bridge in lake Victoria called kigongo - busisi bridge.
9. We are building big ship in lake Victoria called MV mwanza
10. We are building electrified commuter railway in Dar es salaam.
11. We are building health center all over the country.

12. We have already built four new radars.

And many more.
I have proof I will post them.
And these more...
13. Expansion of Dar es salaam port(Dar es salaam port maritime project.

14.Expansion and dredging of mtwara port

15.Expansion and dredging of Tanga port

16.Rural electrification project across the country ( it have reached 84.6% currently)

17.Expansion of kimara- kibaha road into 10 to 12 lanes with 7 flyovers in between

18.Renovations and expansions of regional airports across TZ,about 10 airports are being expanded


I will still mention more
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:42am On Jun 18, 2020
Kazikazi:
First,TZ is ahead of Kenya in tourism. If you are a investor X,its more sense to invest in TZ since we have more attractions, TZ is more peaceful, there are more infrastructure in TZ than kenya

Tanzania is not ahead of Kenya in tourism never has been. Tanzania gets more tourists during election years in Kenya only, 2017 being a prime example.

Kenya has more hotels than Tanzania,
Kenya has an airport that is well serviced by all major world airlines and local ones too.
Tanzania doesn't have this.
Kenya has an existence of high domestic tourism and better rates for locals during off peak season. Tanzania doesn't.
I was doing a project in a hotel in Zanzibar February of this year in kiwengwa. The hotel was at capacity. majority of occupants were foreigners. All African guests were Kenyans. In the same Hotel the in house nurse, engineer,accountant and storekeepers were all kenyans despite being an international chain of hotels what does that tell you?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Annael: 10:47am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


Tanzania is not ahead of Kenya in tourism never has been. Tanzania gets more tourists during election years in Kenya only, 2017 being a prime example.

Kenya has more hotels than Tanzania,
Kenya has an airport that is well serviced by all major world airlines and local ones too.
Tanzania doesn't have this.
Kenya has an existence of high domestic tourism and better rates for locals during off peak season. Tanzania doesn't.
I was doing a project in a hotel in Zanzibar February of this year in kiwengwa. The hotel was at capacity. majority of occupants were foreigners. All African guests were Kenyans. In the same Hotel the in house nurse, engineer,accountant and storekeepers were all kenyans despite being an international chain of hotels what does that tell you?
Let start with tourism, then hotel.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:48am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

You can build a hotel in Tanzania. Because tourism sector bigger than Kenya.
Also Kenya is not a peaceful country to invest.
Political stability. Kenya is not stable.
Corruption in Kenya is normal. But in Tanzania corruption is dead.

From that point is better you build hotel in Tanzania than in Kenya.

Just few point.

You are correct about political stability Tanzania has the edge over Kenya, Hell Tanzania has the edge over most countries in Africa in that however I as an investor will choose where I will make more money. Kenya has higher tourists numbers than Tanzania, 2017 and 2013 Tanzania received more tourists than kenya, this were election years. Tanzania has more tourists attractions than kenya but kenya has more hotels what does this mean for an investor?
I can guarantee you nearly all four and five star hotels in Tanzania you will find kenyan employees in most of the white collar jobs and they will also be the heads in the blue collar jobs

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:49am On Jun 18, 2020
vaxx:
going by population , says might be among the top 3 largest spoken language.

Its in west africa only
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:49am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

Let start with tourism, then hotel.


Yes this was as I said an election year 2018 they are posting the results of 2017 travel and tourism come on you should know this

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:50am On Jun 18, 2020
vankelvin:
We salute Tanzanian's for having more artist impression hospitals than physical Hospitals.
Who are you trying to deceive?

Benjamin mkapa hospital,Dodoma

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:51am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


Swahili is spoken in Oman as a second language by over 50% of the people. In Yemen the southern part speaks swahili as well.
Comoros speaks some variation of swahili and yes Swahili is ranked as an international language. It is the most widely spoken indigenous African language.
citation please!!
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 10:52am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


Tanzania is not ahead of Kenya in tourism never has been. Tanzania gets more tourists during election years in Kenya only, 2017 being a prime example.

Kenya has more hotels than Tanzania,
Kenya has an airport that is well serviced by all major world airlines and local ones too.
Tanzania doesn't have this.
Kenya has an existence of high domestic tourism and better rates for locals during off peak season. Tanzania doesn't.
I was doing a project in a hotel in Zanzibar February of this year in kiwengwa. The hotel was at capacity. majority of occupants were foreigners. All African guests were Kenyans. In the same Hotel the in house nurse, engineer,accountant and storekeepers were all kenyans despite being an international chain of hotels what does that tell you?
Oh you are a good man! Now prove your theory here.

How many workers were in that hotel in kiwengwa beach?
How many were Kenyans?
What is the name of a hotel/resort?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:53am On Jun 18, 2020
Austine1212:
your source!?

The source is me. I have had the privilege of visiting both countries. cool

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kevomtaani: 10:58am On Jun 18, 2020
Kazikazi:
Oh you are a good man! Now prove your theory here.

How many workers were in that hotel in kiwengwa beach?
How many were Kenyans?
What is the name of a hotel/resort?

Thank you. The workers were 100, 30 in house and 70 commute daily. I would prefer to not name the hotel for obvious reasons. the local market area is called mafarasini. Kenyans were 11 in number heading I.T, Accounts, Procurement, storekeeping and Maintenance. the general manager was from the UK

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 10:59am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

Boy. You are in a darkness.
1. We are building Electrified SGR
2. We are building Hydro power dam
3. Our airline now is working
4. Our GDP this year grows by 6%
5. We are building a new city in Dodoma
6. We are building BRT phase ii And phase iii in dar es salaam
7. We are building 1.3km bridge passing through Indian ocean. Called Tanzanite bridge in Dar es salaam
8. We are building 3km bridge in lake Victoria called kigongo - busisi bridge.
9. We are building big ship in lake Victoria called MV mwanza
10. We are building electrified commuter railway in Dar es salaam.
11. We are building health center all over the country.

12. We have already built four new radars.

And many more.
I have proof I will post them.
your GDP is not going to grow by 6%

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:00am On Jun 18, 2020
Austine1212:


Percent of population is insignificant

Setswana is spoken in SA Namibia Zimbabwe lesotho Botswana does it make it an international languege? No its regional


Maybe you do not understand what is meant by international
Pwahapwapwa Pwahapwapwa
Hohohoho Hohohoho Hohohohooo

Is setswana spoken outside Africa? Can setswana cross the ocean? Definitely not. Your language can't even cross a lake! Don't compare Swahili with some African languages spoken in deserts!
Swahili have crossed the big oceans and is there in Oman.Soon it will reach UN offices in New York.
Can any African language achieve that?

Hohohoho
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:01am On Jun 18, 2020
Austine1212:


Its in west africa only
no it is also available in central Africa and some part of east Africa like Sudan.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:02am On Jun 18, 2020
jln115:
your GDP is not going to grow by 6%
Those are estimations.Finance minister says it will be 5.5% growth
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:04am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

You can build a hotel in Tanzania. Because tourism sector bigger than Kenya.
Also Kenya is not a peaceful country to invest.
Political stability. Kenya is not stable.
Corruption in Kenya is normal. But in Tanzania corruption is dead.

From that point is better you build hotel in Tanzania than in Kenya.

Just few point.

Yet Kenya receives more FDI and has a bigger economy with a smaller population and less resources than Tanzania. Go figure!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:05am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


You are correct about political stability Tanzania has the edge over Kenya, Hell Tanzania has the edge over most countries in Africa in that however I as an investor will choose where I will make more money. Kenya has higher tourists numbers than Tanzania, 2017 and 2013 Tanzania received more tourists than kenya, this were election years. Tanzania has more tourists attractions than kenya but kenya has more hotels what does this mean for an investor?
I can guarantee you nearly all four and five star hotels in Tanzania you will find kenyan employees in most of the white collar jobs and they will also be the heads in the blue collar jobs
Zanzibar alone has
25 Five star hotels
110 four star hotels
204 three star hotels
Over 400 lodges and bangalows

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Annael: 11:05am On Jun 18, 2020
kevomtaani:


You are correct about political stability Tanzania has the edge over Kenya, Hell Tanzania has the edge over most countries in Africa in that however I as an investor will choose where I will make more money. Kenya has higher tourists numbers than Tanzania, 2017 and 2013 Tanzania received more tourists than kenya, this were election years. Tanzania has more tourists attractions than kenya but kenya has more hotels what does this mean for an investor?
I can guarantee you nearly all four and five star hotels in Tanzania you will find kenyan employees in most of the white collar jobs and they will also be the heads in the blue collar jobs
Oh!! Dear
The tourism strategy BTW Tanzania and Kenya is different.
Kenya promote mass tourism but Tanzania promote executive tourism.
So Tanzania make more money than Kenya.
Also dear friend, Tanzania has tourism attraction all over the country.
So if you are real investor you will choose Tanzania.

Also you forget to mention corruption. How is does corruption affect investment!?
That why Kenya earn less than $1b in tourism but Tanzania earn more than $2.5b. Is a huge gap.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 11:06am On Jun 18, 2020
gallivant:


Yet Kenya receives more FDI and has a bigger economy with a smaller population and less resources than Tanzania. Go figure!
FDI?
Do u know the gas sector in TZ total FDI?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:07am On Jun 18, 2020
This is very true for nearly all Tanzanian hotels and projects. My friend is electrical engineer and he is mostly in TZ doing these kind of stuff. But they TZ will never give him work permit so they have to sneak in with tourist visa and do his work.
kevomtaani:


Tanzania is not ahead of Kenya in tourism never has been. Tanzania gets more tourists during election years in Kenya only, 2017 being a prime example.

Kenya has more hotels than Tanzania,
Kenya has an airport that is well serviced by all major world airlines and local ones too.
Tanzania doesn't have this.
Kenya has an existence of high domestic tourism and better rates for locals during off peak season. Tanzania doesn't.
I was doing a project in a hotel in Zanzibar February of this year in kiwengwa. The hotel was at capacity. majority of occupants were foreigners. All African guests were Kenyans. In the same Hotel the in house nurse, engineer,accountant and storekeepers were all kenyans despite being an international chain of hotels what does that tell you?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:08am On Jun 18, 2020
vaxx:
no it is also available in central Africa and some part of east Africa like Sudan.

Sudan is Eastern Africa. East Africa has only 5 countries and you all know them.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:09am On Jun 18, 2020
Kazikazi:
FDI?
Do u know the gas sector in TZ total FDI?

Resources? Does prospecting for gas create many jobs?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vaxx: 11:09am On Jun 18, 2020
gallivant:


Sudan is Eastern Africa. East Africa has only 5 countries and you all know them.
says by an idiot. Is Sudan not part of what make geographical east Africa nations?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:09am On Jun 18, 2020
Not only Tanzania - but Uganda, Rwanda and name them. The chefs and the managers will come from kenya. Kenya's Utalii college is like the Switzerland of hotel training.
kevomtaani:


You are correct about political stability Tanzania has the edge over Kenya, Hell Tanzania has the edge over most countries in Africa in that however I as an investor will choose where I will make more money. Kenya has higher tourists numbers than Tanzania, 2017 and 2013 Tanzania received more tourists than kenya, this were election years. Tanzania has more tourists attractions than kenya but kenya has more hotels what does this mean for an investor?
I can guarantee you nearly all four and five star hotels in Tanzania you will find kenyan employees in most of the white collar jobs and they will also be the heads in the blue collar jobs
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp20182: 11:13am On Jun 18, 2020
Btw it could be down to how your central bank counts international receipts and how kenya does the counting. I think latest is 1.6B for kenya and 2.6B for TZ.
Annael:

Also you forget to mention corruption. How is does corruption affect investment!?
That why Kenya earn less than $1b in tourism but Tanzania earn more than $2.5b. Is a huge gap.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 11:13am On Jun 18, 2020
vaxx:
says by an idiot. Is Sudan not past of what make geographical east Africa nations?

East Africa, Eastern Africa and Horn of Africa are different political and economic regions in Africa dimwit. Nobody cares about geographical otherwise even Egypt would be considered East African.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 11:15am On Jun 18, 2020
Annael:

Oh dear Slum boy grin grin grin
See who is Magufooli here!?
I told you whatever you talk about Tanzania give us evidences. Don't just mention Tundu Lisu.
You are convincing me that you are Liar Odinga

grin grin grin

you too can testify grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by VicThory(m): 11:18am On Jun 18, 2020
Kazikazi:
Pwahapwapwa Pwahapwapwa
Hohohoho Hohohoho Hohohohooo

Is setswana spoken outside Africa? Can setswana cross the ocean? Definitely not. Your language can't even cross a lake! Don't compare Swahili with some African languages spoken in deserts!
Swahili have crossed the big oceans and is there in Oman.Soon it will reach UN offices in New York.
Can any African language achieve that?

Hohohoho

I read that Swahili is a corrupted form of Arabic? So it's not indigenous.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Abohboy: 11:19am On Jun 18, 2020
[quote author=VicThory post=90800415]

I read that Swahili is a corrupted form of Arabic? So it's not indigenous.[/quote

Not fully corrupted but parts of it evolved from Arabic, and other parts were from native African speakers so this a mix of East African and arabic language.

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