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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 8:24pm On Jun 19, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


You wrote: ".. the former were Hebrew descendants... while the later are product of Balfour agreement.. "

the comparison in inherently wrong. You are comparing descendancy with territory creation. The Balfour agreement is "the creation of a state" and cannot be compared "peoples' ancestry".

The Balfour agreement did not create people nor alter their ancestry.

The question is: Whose descendants are the non biblical israelis ??

Balfour relocated new people to the ancestry of another because they are the same religion.
Benjamin Netanyahu is a Spanish jew occupying the land of Israelites (descendants of Jacob).

Netanyahu isn't a Biblical Israelite, he is a citizen of the State of Israel. Not all Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews, hope its clear enough.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 8:28pm On Jun 19, 2020
komekn:


Agreed not many have been able to acquire a $2 million dollar flat in Dubai, on a Generals salary.

Indeed well done Buratai, l can see him once he retires becoming a politician, he is already well versed in spin and manipulation of information.

Burantai's Dubai flat is $150k to $180k not $2m

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 8:30pm On Jun 19, 2020
Odunayaw:
Alarm - Brief - Pilot suit up - concurrent arming - fly to and arrive on target.

Not an excuse for coming "late". Just a different opinion on this late coming of NAF. How long do you think this chain of events last.

Meanwhile, why are some forgetting the offensive push(es) of April/May and making it seem NA has been sitting idle

The best Approach will be to have NAF SF guys embedded in all super camps.
Each super camp should have a drone and long range Artillery, drone directs Arty fire, everyone is fine, no need for NAF.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:52pm On Jun 19, 2020
NAF CONVERTS ACCIDENT AND EMERGENCY UNIT AT ITS ABUJA HOSPITAL TO COVID-19 MANAGEMENT CENTRE

The Nigerian Air Force (NAF) has converted the Accident and Emergency Unit at the 063 NAF Hospital (NAFH) in Abuja to a COVID-19 Management Centre. The well-equipped Accident and Emergency Unit, which was constructed and commissioned in 2019 by the Chief of the Air Staff, Air Marshal Sadique Abubakar, has been further upgraded with necessary medical equipment as part of facilities designated in the Armed Forces COVID-19 Response Team’s contribution to the National Response. The NAF, in addition, has also equipped and put on standby the newly-built 100-bunk Students’ Hostel at the Air Force Girls’ Comprehensive School (AFGCS) Abuja as an additional Management Centre, in the event of an upsurge in cases.

Speaking shortly after inspecting the 2 facilities today, 19 June 2020, the Honourable Minister of Health, Dr Osagie Ehanire, lauded the NAF’s leadership for converting and donating such superb facilities as part of its contribution to the Armed Forces Response Team’s plan, noting that the gesture would go a long way towards improving the overall effectiveness of the National Response to the Pandemic. The Minister also acknowledged and thanked the NAF for the recent donation of additional 30 cylinders of liquid oxygen to the Presidential Task Force on COVID-19, disclosing that part of the oxygen had been deployed at the Asokoro Management Centre. He however used the occasion to solicit for the provision of additional quantity of oxygen from the NAF due to the high demand, especially at the Lagos Management Centres.

Speaking further, Dr Ehanire, while describing the NAF as a strategic establishment, praised the Service for sustaining the production of clinical oxygen from its Liquid Oxygen Plant in Yola and equally commended the recent reconfiguration of a C-130H aircraft to serve as an air ambulance for Aeromedical Evacuation, whenever the need arises. He concluded by appreciating the Ministry of Defence (MOD) and the Armed Forces of Nigeria (AFN) for their responsiveness in providing necessary support to deal with the COVID-19 Emergency.

On his part, the Honourable Minister of Defence (HMOD), Major General Bashir Magashi (rtd), who was represented by the Director of Health Services, Mrs Akinlade Oluwatoyin, expressed the readiness of the MOD to partner with the National Emergency Response Team in the fight against the COVID-19 Pandemic which, he noted, informed the decision to emplace proactive measures to curb its spread in the Armed Forces. The Minister also commended the CAS for making the facilities available in sufficient time as well as with adequate equipment to meet the required standards of a COVID-19 Management Centre.

Also present at the occasion were the Chief of Defence Training and Operations, Major General Leo Irabor, who represented the Chief of Defence Staff, General Gabriel Olonisakin; the NAF Chief of Policy and Plans, Air Vice Marshal Oladayo Amao, who represented the CAS, as well as other dignitaries from the 2 Ministries, the AFN and allied Parastatals.

IBIKUNLE DARAMOLA
Air Commodore
Director of Public Relations and Information
Nigerian Air Force
19 June 2020

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 8:52pm On Jun 19, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:03pm On Jun 19, 2020
It's quite funny that in the latest Boko Haram (Not ISIS) video the English speaker, who evidently has been given a fancy status gun (Galil ACE) and an optic to complete the look... has actually attached the quadrant sight for a 40mm MGL to the rifle

Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 9:04pm On Jun 19, 2020
ISWA published images of captured materiel after an ambush that killed 3 NA on the Damboa-Maiduguri road.

Captured weapons include 3x AKM-pattern rifles, 2x Romanian PG-7VM, 1x PG-7V/T69-1 and launcher, W85 HMG & ammo.

Small scale, but able to sustain the insurgency.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 9:32pm On Jun 19, 2020
bidexiii:
ISWA published images of captured materiel after an ambush that killed 3 NA on the Damboa-Maiduguri road.

Captured weapons include 3x AKM-pattern rifles, 2x Romanian PG-7VM, 1x PG-7V/T69-1 and launcher, W85 HMG & ammo.

Small scale, but able to sustain the insurgency.


I lost a Soldier friend i chill with once in a while at Pinnacle in this ambush.

RIP I*sh*a T*mb* very professional and gallant soldier.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:45pm On Jun 19, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:



Nice one bro. But do the USAF and Russian Airforce have to spend much time as we mostly observe here in Naija? Tho the NAF responded earlier in Monguno attack. I will always say that Monguno has always received quick response from NAF. Some locations that are even before you arrive Monguno like Gajiram lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed lipsrsealed
Oboi, the way you know all these towns en...if you see how I struggle to use map to follow you en.
Alas, USAF and RuAF have more platforms at their disposal. They can afford to keep their pilots waiting in the plane, with the engines on if need be.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:54pm On Jun 19, 2020
jpphilips:


The best Approach will be to have NAF SF guys embedded in all super camps.
Each super camp should have a drone and long range Artillery, drone directs Arty fire, everyone is fine, no need for NAF.
SF Forward Air Controllers and Arty Spotters. You know, some times I don't understand how our SFs are utilized

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 9:56pm On Jun 19, 2020
jpphilips:


Balfour relocated new people to the ancestry of another because they are the same religion.
Benjamin Netanyahu is a Spanish jew occupying the land of Israelites (descendants of Jacob).

Netanyahu isn't a Biblical Israelite, he is a citizen of the State of Israel. Not all Jews are Israelites, not all Israelites are Jews, hope its clear enough.


Yes, you are correct about the Israelites and the Jews, but also remember that the State of Israel was created as "Home for the Jews".

Now, to justify why all Jews are home in Israel.

The ethnic Jews are the largest tribe of the 12 tribes of Israel. The other 11 tribes have different names, but all 12 tribes are Israelites and have their real home in Israel.

Spanish jews, American jews, etc, are all ethnic jews. They are spread out globally because of geographic branching, e.g, when some jews travel there and start a family, and their children also grow and expand have children children. So, Spanish jews like Netanyahu are real ethnic jews and they are also Israelites.

For those ordinary people who become Jews by converting to Judaism,,,,, they are attracted to Judaism because they were Jews in previous lives. In this life, someone may be Tunde in Nigeria or Ashley in France,,, but the only spiritual reason why they are attracted to Judaism and want to convert, is because they were Jews in one past life. ..

So, all jews whether real ethnic jews or religion converted jews are Jews, and have their home in Israel. The division is in this life and in the name, their Souls are Jews,,, and that is why even a converted jew will betray his original country for Israel. This is because, the Soul is a jew, but in this life, he has been born as a Christian in Belgium but the soul, still drawn to Judaism, might convert.

So, any Jew (converted or ethnic) is a Jew in soul. And is entitled to be in Israel, with other lost tribes, they all are Israelites, descendants of the 12 tribes of Jacob.


But I commend you, you are still correct and very enlightened.

Thanks

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 9:58pm On Jun 19, 2020
bidexiii:
It's quite funny that in the latest Boko Haram (Not ISIS) video the English speaker, who evidently has been given a fancy status gun (Galil ACE) and an optic to complete the look... has actually attached the quadrant sight for a 40mm MGL to the rifle
E weak me grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 10:01pm On Jun 19, 2020
Odunayaw:
E weak me grin


All for the sake of propaganda grin shocked grin
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 11:41pm On Jun 19, 2020
Odunayaw:
Oboi, the way you know all these towns en...if you see how I struggle to use map to follow you en.
Alas, USAF and RuAF have more platforms at their disposal. They can afford to keep their pilots waiting in the plane, with the engines on if need be.

With engines on? I don't think that happens. However, pilots on alert status can sleep right in their jets. Once the alarm is called all they have to do is crank their engines and go. This will take them maybe 5 minutes. Others opt to have their pilots sleep nearby, fully suited up, ready to go on a moment's notice.
Jet engines and turboshaft engines consume a lot of power. No military I know keeps aircraft engines running, waiting for an alarm, because if the alarm does happen the jets or choppers will need to be fueled up again before they can go on the mission.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 12:02am On Jun 20, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


With engines on? I don't think that happens. However, pilots on alert status can sleep right in their jets. Once the alarm is called all they have to do is crank their engines and go. This will take them maybe 5 minutes. Others opt to have their pilots sleep nearby, fully suited up, ready to go on a moment's notice.
Jet engines and turboshaft engines consume a lot of power. No military I know keeps aircraft engines running, waiting for an alarm, because if the alarm does happen the jets or choppers will need to be fueled up again before they can go on the mission.
Well, I said "They can afford to"
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by GabrielYulaw(m): 12:22am On Jun 20, 2020
Odunayaw:
Well, I said "They can afford to"

With engines running? A jet or helicopter engine is not the same as a car engine. If say the US was to keep a bird on alert with engine running, the jet and its pilot must receive a GO order within a certain timeframe, or their fuel will not be enough for them to launch and get in the air. I don't think it is possible to run a jet engine and refuel it at the same time while waiting for a GO order that might never come, but I might be mistaken.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SuperSixSeven: 12:24am On Jun 20, 2020
jpphillpis and FieldMarshall06
I dont know what you are fighting about but the fact that israel exists (If you like it or not) is a token that the promises of the bible will be soon fullfilled and the messia will return. And the idols with her false doctrines make look stupid the whole mankind will be destroyed.

That is why i love the IDF because they are gods own army defeating all his enemies in the holyland.

God bless each and every one of you.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by FieldMarshall06(m): 12:33am On Jun 20, 2020
SuperSixSeven:
jpphillpis and FieldMarshall06
I dont know what you are fighting about but the fact that israel exists (If you like it or not) is a token that the promises of the bible will be soon fullfilled and the messia will return. And the idols with her false doctrines make look stupid the whole mankind will be destroyed.

That is why i love the IDF because they are gods own army defeating all his enemies in the holyland.

God bless each and every one of you.

Who is this We are not fighting,,, just sharing knowledge...

And please, when men discuss, boyz should stand aside.... abeg cheesy

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by UltimateDreamer: 6:08am On Jun 20, 2020
Droning

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Vikkie14: 8:18am On Jun 20, 2020
GabrielYulaw:


With engines on? I don't think that happens. However, pilots on alert status can sleep right in their jets. Once the alarm is called all they have to do is crank their engines and go. This will take them maybe 5 minutes. Others opt to have their pilots sleep nearby, fully suited up, ready to go on a moment's notice.
Jet engines and turboshaft engines consume a lot of power. No military I know keeps aircraft engines running, waiting for an alarm, because if the alarm does happen the jets or choppers will need to be fueled up again before they can go on the mission.

Don't misinterpret Odunayaw post. It seems you didn't grasp what he is implying GabrielYulaw.

They can afford to keep their pilots waiting in the plane, with the engines on if need be.


He wasn't literally saying they do that, he was only being metaphorical, implying that they can do that if it's a necessity. In essence, his school of thought is drawn along the line that, those two countries had more than enough resource (crafts, fuel, personnel, finance, clout, political will, etc) to undertake such if NECESSITY demands.

The message he is passing across is that, those two countries can respond to distress fast enough to avert/minimise avoidable damages/destructions on own troops and equipments.
Hopefully you understand this.

When in doubt because a poster's comment is ambiguous, always try to examine outside the "first"
thing that came to your mind on such issue.


Over and Out.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 8:50am On Jun 20, 2020
Vikkie14:


Don't misinterpret Odunayaw post. It seems you didn't grasp what he is implying GabrielYulaw.



He wasn't literally saying they do that, he was only being metaphorical, implying that they can do that if it's a necessity. In essence, his school of thought is drawn along the line that, those two countries had more than enough resource (crafts, fuel, personnel, finance, clout, political will, etc) to undertake such if NECESSITY demands.

The message he is passing across is that, those two countries can respond to distress fast enough to avert/minimise avoidable damages/destructions on own troops and equipments.
Hopefully you understand this.

When in doubt because a poster's comment is ambiguous, always try to examine outside the "first"
thing that came to your mind on such issue.


Over and Out.


USA pilots have been on alert couple of times, that the engines have been kept warm and the pilots seating in the aircraft waiting for a call....this has been done for virtually all their classes of pillots, and the troops fully kitted and waiting for their call for quick reaction to incidents....while I wont encourage pilots sitting in aircrafts in the blazing and dangerous heat of the north east, I would encourage pilots fully kitted and waiting in an air conditioned room, with briefing and updates given, enroute to the target location.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Vikkie14: 9:09am On Jun 20, 2020
Tobiloba2407:



USA pilots have been on alert couple of times, that the engines have been kept warm and the pilots seating in the aircraft waiting for a call....this has been done for virtually all their classes of pillots, and the troops fully kitted and waiting for their call for quick reaction to incidents....while I wont encourage pilots sitting in aircrafts in the blazing and dangerous heat of the north east, I would encourage pilots fully kitted and waiting in an air conditioned room, with briefing and updates given, enroute to the target location.
That should had been directed at G'Yulaw, nonetheless I understand your point and shared in your posit.
But, Odun's submission shouldn't be over-flogged. His message is simple and clear : "USAF and RuAF can deploy crafts within minutes notice to defend own troops, because the capacity and capabilities are there".
The whole aim is to see own Air force respond quicker (in minutes rather than hours) to distresses.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Stormtrooper11(m): 10:26am On Jun 20, 2020
youghs:


COAS as well is doing a good job to be honest..no army chief has come close to what he has Achieved...He has done well as for the war against terror but there still more to be done..
None army chief??
Akinrinade?salihu ibrahim?
Where did u keep them
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 10:44am On Jun 20, 2020
rka2:
You armchair Generals again speaking on operational matters you think you know about. Have you ever considered that there are nowhere near enough platforms in the air force's inventory to maintain a 24 hour coverage of the NE? And you have the platforms scattered over the country on different operations.
Then there is also downtime involving maintenance etc. Only 80% of not many platforms are available at any time. The Airforce needs a lot more close air support aircraft and attack helicopters than they currently have when you look at the size of the NE. There are also aircraft tasked on other missions and as such also not available at your beckon call.

More advanced countries are more successful in responding because they have aircraft available in the air near 24/7
as they have numbers as well as air to air refuelling to keep them airborne for long periods and available to attack when required with Forward Air Controllers always on the ground (I am sure a few people here think a pilot will just show up with his aircraft and immediately know friend from foe).

This is where the Tucano will be helpful with their loiter time as we don't have air to air refuelling to keep aircraft in the air longer. The pilots are getting trained, what we need now are the platforms in significant numbers.

The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS.

The denial of FAILURE when there has been systemic failure will result in continous failure and the enthronment of mediocrity .


There is an issue of low expectations here. The same way we see our politicians they do nothing, indeed they are comprehensively inept, but we claim they are TRYING.

These incidents have become continous over the past years. Combatants abandoning equipment, thier positions in the face of Boko attack.

Instead of doing a proper post mortem and getting at the root of the problem we paint over the matter and say we are trying. Sorry it's not good enough.

With regards to the bold that's utter Balderdash.

There is a contingency plan, the UK has never fought a war on its soil for over a 100 years. But thier is a contingency plan for one.

There are fighter pilots stationed at multiple RAF bases on "High Alert" standby 24/7/365. At a moments notice within 3/4 minutes they are airborne and going at supersonic speed to intercept targets. There are regular drills to keep them up to scratch, there is no complacency.

On this platform we have hailed the NAF as being highly competent. But with what unit of comparative measurement, l don't know.

I made two assumptions first that we have some air assets ( fighter jets) in Maiduguri, do we ❓ The distance by road between Monguno and Maiduguri is about 85miles however "as the crow flies" and using nautical miles, it is a lot shorter.

With this in mind the NAF should be able to have target acquisition in Monguno within or less than 15 minutes. It is not difficult.

This has nothing to do with being an advanced country or not. It's about competence, organisational culture and effective management.

You claim we have very few operational aircraft. Then who decided to buy 12 aircraft that will take 6 years to complete the supply and three years before we get the first ones. I am sorry it is near deranged thinking.

Is the USA the only country that sells aircraft in the world.

The cost of two A29 will give us 50 Wing Loong II UAV today not in 6 years time. Do you know if you had those UAV Boko will be almost rendered impotent. That will give you complete situational awareness over the whole NE.

They UAV operates very silently not like a noisy turboprop, with a ceiling of over 30k feet. Once again l am talking about the HERE and very present NOW.

What I don't understand is how the NA in Monguno doesn't have any outposts to give them situational awareness. It's like they were asleep when Boko attacked.

But that not withstanding, Boko did not invade with 100 T72 tanks just in my estimation not more than 15/20 rickety gun trucks and combatants with light arms walking around like it's Sunday afternoon stroll.

The Vickers MBT is able on its own to completely halt the advance. It may be old but it's very capable, it's 105 mm gun is stabilised it can shoot on the move 100% accuracy any target under 2km. By the time just 4/5 of the gun trucks are decimated the rest will run away.

Finally, something many will not like to consider this but we should. Imagine there were Chadian soldiers in Monguno what do you think would have been thier response

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SamuelAnyawu(m): 10:54am On Jun 20, 2020
komekn:


The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS.

The denial of FAILURE when there has been systemic failure will result in continous failure and the enthronment of mediocrity .


There is an issue of low expectations here. The same way we see our politicians they do nothing, indeed they are comprehensively inept, but we claim they are TRYING.

These incidents have become continous over the past years. Combatants abandoning equipment, thier positions in the face of Boko attack.

Instead of doing a proper post mortem and getting at the root of the problem we paint over the matter and say we are trying. Sorry it's not good enough.

With regards to the bold that's utter Balderdash.

There is a contingency plan, the UK has never fought a war on its soil for over a 100 years. But thier is a contingency plan for one.

There are fighter pilots stationed at multiple RAF bases on "High Alert" standby 24/7/365. At a moments notice within 3/4 minutes they are airborne and going at supersonic speed to intercept targets. There are regular drills to keep them up to scratch, there is no complacency.

On this platform we have hailed the NAF as being highly competent. But with what unit of comparative measurement, l don't know.

I made two assumptions first that we have some air assets ( fighter jets) in Maiduguri, do we ❓ The distance by road between Monguno and Maiduguri is about 85miles however "as the crow flies" and using nautical miles, it is a lot shorter.

With this in mind the NAF should be able to have target acquisition in Monguno within or less than 15 minutes. It is not difficult.

This has nothing to do with being an advanced country or not. It's about competence, organisational culture and effective management.

You claim we have very few operational aircraft. Then who decided to buy 12 aircraft that will take 6 years to complete the supply and three years before we get the first ones. I am sorry it is near deranged thinking.

Is the USA the only country that sells aircraft in the world.

The cost of two A29 will give us 50 Wing Loong II UAV today not in 6 years time. Do you know if you had those UAV Boko will be almost rendered impotent. That will give you complete situational awareness over the whole NE.

They UAV operates very silently not like a noisy turboprop, with a ceiling of over 30k feet. Once again l am talking about the HERE and very present NOW.

What I don't understand is how the NA in Monguno doesn't have any outposts to give them situational awareness. It's like they were asleep when Boko attacked.

But that not withstanding, Boko did not invade with 100 T72 tanks just in my estimation not more than 15/20 rickety gun trucks and combatants with light arms walking around like it's Sunday afternoon stroll.

The Vickers MBT is able on its own to completely halt the advance. It may be old but it's very capable, it's 105 mm gun is stabilised it can shoot on the move 100% accuracy any target under 2km. By the time just 4/5 of the gun trucks are decimated the rest will run away.

Finally, something many will not like to consider this but we should. Imagine there were Chadian soldiers in Monguno what do you think would have been thier response




All Monguno peeps made this statement, but I don't wanna derail this lovely thread cool

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:00am On Jun 20, 2020
Tobiloba2407:



USA pilots have been on alert couple of times, that the engines have been kept warm and the pilots seating in the aircraft waiting for a call....this has been done for virtually all their classes of pillots, and the troops fully kitted and waiting for their call for quick reaction to incidents....while I wont encourage pilots sitting in aircrafts in the blazing and dangerous heat of the north east, I would encourage pilots fully kitted and waiting in an air conditioned room, with briefing and updates given, enroute to the target location.

I don't where you got that idea from.

I have been to Multiple US bases in the UK and Germany. What you have is pilots fully kitted on high alert waiting for the order to engage. In a comfortable room close proximity to the aircraft well heated games, TV, etc

Just waiting but VERY READY TO GO, once the order is given they run to the aircraft and within minutes they are airborne.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:02am On Jun 20, 2020
SamuelAnyawu:


All Monguno peeps made this statement, but I don't wanna derail this lovely thread cool


Even when we know the truth we don't want to hear it.

Chadian soldiers are not as well equipped as Nigerian soldiers this is the truth.

So there is a clear problem in our attitude and professionalism not capability.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by komekn(m): 11:04am On Jun 20, 2020
Odunayaw:
Oboi, the way you know all these towns en...if you see how I struggle to use map to follow you en.
Alas, USAF and RuAF have more platforms at their disposal. They can afford to keep their pilots waiting in the plane, with the engines on if need be.

That never happens.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 11:10am On Jun 20, 2020
komekn:


The admittance of FAILURE is the beginning of SUCCESS.

The denial of FAILURE when there has been systemic failure will result in continous failure and the enthronment of mediocrity .


There is an issue of low expectations here. The same way we see our politicians they do nothing, indeed they are comprehensively inept, but we claim they are TRYING.

These incidents have become continous over the past years. Combatants abandoning equipment, thier positions in the face of Boko attack.

Instead of doing a proper post mortem and getting at the root of the problem we paint over the matter and say we are trying. Sorry it's not good enough.

With regards to the bold that's utter Balderdash.

There is a contingency plan, the UK has never fought a war on its soil for over a 100 years. But thier is a contingency plan for one.

There are fighter pilots stationed at multiple RAF bases on "High Alert" standby 24/7/365. At a moments notice within 3/4 minutes they are airborne and going at supersonic speed to intercept targets. There are regular drills to keep them up to scratch, there is no complacency.

On this platform we have hailed the NAF as being highly competent. But with what unit of comparative measurement, l don't know.

I made two assumptions first that we have some air assets ( fighter jets) in Maiduguri, do we ❓ The distance by road between Monguno and Maiduguri is about 85miles however "as the crow flies" and using nautical miles, it is a lot shorter.

With this in mind the NAF should be able to have target acquisition in Monguno within or less than 15 minutes. It is not difficult.

This has nothing to do with being an advanced country or not. It's about competence, organisational culture and effective management.

You claim we have very few operational aircraft. Then who decided to buy 12 aircraft that will take 6 years to complete the supply and three years before we get the first ones. I am sorry it is near deranged thinking.

Is the USA the only country that sells aircraft in the world.

The cost of two A29 will give us 50 Wing Loong II UAV today not in 6 years time. Do you know if you had those UAV Boko will be almost rendered impotent. That will give you complete situational awareness over the whole NE.

They UAV operates very silently not like a noisy turboprop, with a ceiling of over 30k feet. Once again l am talking about the HERE and very present NOW.

What I don't understand is how the NA in Monguno doesn't have any outposts to give them situational awareness. It's like they were asleep when Boko attacked.

But that not withstanding, Boko did not invade with 100 T72 tanks just in my estimation not more than 15/20 rickety gun trucks and combatants with light arms walking around like it's Sunday afternoon stroll.

The Vickers MBT is able on its own to completely halt the advance. It may be old but it's very capable, it's 105 mm gun is stabilised it can shoot on the move 100% accuracy any target under 2km. By the time just 4/5 of the gun trucks are decimated the rest will run away.

Finally, something many will not like to consider this but we should. Imagine there were Chadian soldiers in Monguno what do you think would have been thier response



And I'll still keep asking the question were was France Reaper "Drones" when ISWAP hit hard on chadian soilders for 7hrs. Even in Niger earlier dis year who responded to the ISWAP attack on their FOB? NAF..... when France has their Mirage and Reaper Drones with Max Loitering time.Quick question why then do u think the US AFSOC is choosing the Tucano why not Aquire More Drones for operations in Afghanistan other than buying Noisy Turbo prop Aircraft Flying 30k feet.
Factors that affect the delivery of the Tucano is unknown but it's what we need.
NAF responding to attacks depends on the time they receive alert.Do u think NAF knew immediately the attack began and spent 2hrs deploying Nahh
Seven of their guntruck were captured 4 from the footage of the Airstrike were destroyed so automatically they didn't go back the same way they came.
If it was the chadians I trust them they'll give them hell,they are battle hardened.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by jpphilips(m): 11:27am On Jun 20, 2020
FieldMarshall06:


Yes, you are correct about the Israelites and the Jews, but also remember that the State of Israel was created as "Home for the Jews".

Now, to justify why all Jews are home in Israel.

The ethnic Jews are the largest tribe of the 12 tribes of Israel. The other 11 tribes have different names, but all 12 tribes are Israelites and have their real home in Israel.

Spanish jews, American jews, etc, are all ethnic jews. They are spread out globally because of geographic branching, e.g, when some jews travel there and start a family, and their children also grow and expand have children children. So, Spanish jews like Netanyahu are real ethnic jews and they are also Israelites.

For those ordinary people who become Jews by converting to Judaism,,,,, they are attracted to Judaism because they were Jews in previous lives. In this life, someone may be Tunde in Nigeria or Ashley in France,,, but the only spiritual reason why they are attracted to Judaism and want to convert, is because they were Jews in one past life. ..

So, all jews whether real ethnic jews or religion converted jews are Jews, and have their home in Israel. The division is in this life and in the name, their Souls are Jews,,, and that is why even a converted jew will betray his original country for Israel. This is because, the Soul is a jew, but in this life, he has been born as a Christian in Belgium but the soul, still drawn to Judaism, might convert.

So, any Jew (converted or ethnic) is a Jew in soul. And is entitled to be in Israel, with other lost tribes, they all are Israelites, descendants of the 12 tribes of Jacob.


But I commend you, you are still correct and very enlightened.

Thanks



Now you have made a mistake, The law of return aka implementation framework of the Balfour agreement guarantees that every Jew of the ancient bloodline is entitled to citizenship in the state of Israel, however, that privilege doesn't make them Israelites.
The term "Israelites" belong to a particular Jew, (descendants of Jacob) sadly they haven't benefited from the law of return.

Amongst the 12 tribes of Israel, only 10 tribes have the traditional legitimacy to return, 2 tribes dont because they are a tribe of priests, not entitled to own lands.

So it is wrong for Komekn to allude that state of Israel has been at war since Biblical times because they are two different people.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka2: 11:45am On Jun 20, 2020
Toju200:
And I'll still keep asking the question were was France Reaper "Drones" when ISWAP hit hard on chadian soilders for 7hrs. Even in Niger earlier dis year who responded to the ISWAP attack on their FOB? NAF..... when France has their Mirage and Reaper Drones with Max Loitering time.Quick question why then do u think the US AFSOC is choosing the Tucano why not Aquire More Drones for operations in Afghanistan other than buying Noisy Turbo prop Aircraft Flying 30k feet.
Factors that affect the delivery of the Tucano is unknown but it's what we need.
NAF responding to attacks depends on the time they receive alert.Do u think NAF knew immediately the attack began and spent 2hrs deploying Nahh
Seven of their guntruck were captured 4 from the footage of the Airstrike were destroyed so automatically they didn't go back the same way they came.
If it was the chadians I trust them they'll give them hell,they are battle hardened.

You will not get an answer about the French drones etc. That is why I will keep repeating about arm chair generals.

On the Chadian soldiers, yes they can come and defend and go away as heroes, but it is easier to do that when you have not been fighting for years on multiple engagements at home. Same way if the BH insurgency was embedded in Chad, the NA would be able to there there, whoop asses and return home. Do you think Chad alone would have had the capacity to have been fighting BH for years? How did they do when they lost 100 soldiers when their base was attacked. That was just one attack. Yes they fought back and had some successes, which were overhyped, but so has the NA.

I have already mentioned the factors in relation to NAF response times but some people are bent, as usual, on saying they have failed. No effort to make any research etc.

Concerning the Super Tucano, you have said it. There is no reasoning with people who have entrenched positions, no matter how illogical.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 11:50am On Jun 20, 2020
Vikkie14:


Don't misinterpret Odunayaw post. It seems you didn't grasp what he is implying GabrielYulaw.



He wasn't literally saying they do that, he was only being metaphorical, implying that they can do that if it's a necessity. In essence, his school of thought is drawn along the line that, those two countries had more than enough resource (crafts, fuel, personnel, finance, clout, political will, etc) to undertake such if NECESSITY demands.

The message he is passing across is that, those two countries can respond to distress fast enough to avert/minimise avoidable damages/destructions on own troops and equipments.
Hopefully you understand this.

When in doubt because a poster's comment is ambiguous, always try to examine outside the "first"
thing that came to your mind on such issue.


Over and Out.
Thank you

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