hoopernikao:


Should we discussed this further and you won't start calling me names again and avoid discussion afterwards. If you do, I still have outstanding questions you haven't answered.

Secondly, I have seen great assumptions among you and your colleagues claiming I defend Trinity. for your record, check through all my post not just here but on Nairaland generally, and point to where I had a discussion Trinity. I have constantly mentioned to you all that my argument with you is not about Trinity for now but cases that can lead to it.

The fact that you wanted to proved a point isnt allowing you to read between the lines. Exposing your mistakes is not the same as supporting your enemies stand. You must always read details and carefully.

Do I believe in Trinity, YES. Have I ever defend or discuss it on Nairaland? You may have to check to prove me wrong. The closest thing I have ever said on trinity is that it is a concept of salvation rather than creation. That is the closest said about my stand on Trinity. This was made over 6-7 months on one Reno said..... Thread. I am definite in all I do and it can be traceable. In due time that will be discussed.

So, I may not support some opinions or have the same stand view of Trinity with those who believe in it, but I definitely believe in it both scripturally, historically and personally.

See as how you are exposing you and your trinity cohorts
Matthew 12:25
A house divided against itself will not stand

GRIMMJOE:
That's not correct

Oh alright then
Carry on

hoopernikao:


I have answered you, maybe there is an answer you want to hear. I am a Christian, it is right for me to speak about me not anyone.

Have I heard some other spoke about what they believed in? YES. doesn't that lead to or satisfied my longing? NO.

So, what is your intent to what you hold tight. I have asked this 4 times now. You asked yours I answered you.

Don't you think the intent of the scriptures is pure and worth knowing? Isn't the same your heart yearns for? Why not look over the lies you have been told by those who twisted the scriptures for you and now be open to see for yourself if they are true.

It's OK Hoopernikao, I believe you see it now but isn't ready to accept it, it will feel like you lost, just try and think about it.

OK ask me your question, I'll answer.

DappaD:

You typing too long doesn't really interest me. Try to get the message across without too much words.

So how can you believe in something and can't be able to defend it?

N/B: I'm not inciting another argument oo abeg I just find it funny how you view God and Jesus as distinct beings and still view them as the same person.

You still didn't read my text well. You will have to always read my text carefully. They have things hidden in the details.

I never said in that text that I can't defend what I believe or Trinity. Defending is not an issue. It is clear as the day dawn. It is you or others understanding it that I am taking progressively.

But if people (as you also shown in your question here) still struggle to understand the fundamental things about biblical words or narrative, it will be dangerous to just and start discussing what will confused them totally.

For example, you still find it hard to see that when you say Jesus or Christ, that isn't refering to divinity but humanity of Christ and using this as basis of of Trinity judgement is ignorance.

You cannot anoint God, "Christ mean the anointed one" pointing you directly to his humanity. When you still muddle this up, further explanation will be a waste of time. Until you first of all can differentiate when bible points to Jesus divinity and when it points to his humanity, you will always have issues with the words such as father, son, son of man, son of God, Jesus, Christ etc.

Knowledge is progressive, hence I am not in a rush to fully explain it in due time.

DappaD:

See as how you are exposing you and your trinity cohorts
Matthew 12:25
A house divided against itself will not stand

Even among the Jehovah's and the Yahweh, still different opinion, interpretation and believes.

hoopernikao:


You still didn't read my text well. You will have to always read my text carefully. They have things hidden in the details.

I never said in that text that I can't defend what I believe or Trinity. Defending is not an issue. It is clear as the day dawn. It is you or others understanding it that I am taking progressively.

But if people (as you also shown in your question here) still struggle to understand the fundamental things about biblical words or narrative, it will be dangerous to just and start discussing what will confused them totally.

For example, you still find it hard to see that when you say Jesus or Christ, that isn't refering to divinity but humanity of Christ and using this as basis of of Trinity judgement is ignorance.

You cannot anoint God, "Christ mean the anointed one" pointing you directly to his humanity. When you still muddle this up, further explanation will be a waste of time. Until you first of all can differentiate when bible points to Jesus divinity and when it points to his humanity, you will always have issues with the words such as father, son, son of man, son of God, Jesus, Christ etc.

Knowledge is progressive, hence I am not in a rush to fully explain it in due time.

There he goes again! With his long speeches

GRIMMJOE:
It's OK Hoopernikao, I believe you see it now but isn't ready to accept it, it will feel like you lost, just try and think about it.

OK ask me your question, I'll answer.

You must be in between the red sea.

Which of the questions, I have asked you over a score.

So influences you, the intent that inform what you hold as true.

Maximus69:


NO YOU'RE A LIAR, TRINITY MEANS ARGUING, INSULTING, ABUSING, CURSING and of course BLACKMAILING Rozz for not supporting us ~ Pastor Johnw47 Wealthy

is there something you want to say to me lying pharisee false jw mad max
or are you just lying and mouthing off from a distance still

by the way @underline, i wasn't doing anything to lie lie rozz for not suporting you
in fact i told her she should join you, just like my first post to you lying mad max
many moons ago was that you should join the false jw's

false jw org is where all you liars bellong

DappaD:

There he goes again! With his long speeches

That's how I asked him for intent and got the long speech.

DappaD:

See as how you are exposing you and your trinity cohorts
Matthew 12:25
A house divided against itself will not stand

Exposing? You must be funny. Bible interpretation have no friends or partner. The only thing that matters is proper interpretation.

JW is not the only one who takes Jesus as not God yet the explanation in most varies. So leave this out. My loyalty is to God's word sir.

GRIMMJOE:
Even among the Jehovah's and the Yahweh, still different opinion, interpretation and believes.

That's where you have it wrong sir!
All of the 8.7million Jehovah's Witnesses in the world are all united by common goals and we all have the same beliefs taught from the Bible.

This your self assertive narrative is taking you no where

hoopernikao:


Exposing? You must be funny. Bible interpretation have no friends or partner. The only thing that matters is proper interpretation.

JW is not the only one who takes Jesus as not God yet the explanation in most varies. So leave this out. My loyalty is to God's word sir.

Sorry I didn't read that well

GRIMMJOE:
That's how I asked him for intent and got the long speech.

Eyaaa.

The long epistles is to help you understand properly and so that nothing is left out leaving you doubting and confused. Thoughts are to be presented properly to avoid assumptions. It is because you have been exposed to so much assumptions and lack of detailed and true explanations that is why you are now questioning things, how beit the wrong way.

If you have been taught rightly, no matter how long or hard, you would have been grounded in knowledge to know exactly what you stand for. Even as it is now, you still hang on so many assumptions and surely evident in your knowledge and words here.

Rozz:
it means I'm not bothered.Its still a faceless forum

lie lie rozz

your fears are from your lying, and from your god satan the father of lies:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

hoopernikao:


You must be in between the red sea.

Which of the questions, I have asked you over a score.

So influences you, the intent that inform what you hold as true.

It's quite simple, the intent

Christianity = Intent is Love
Islam = Intent is Peace

Your are a Christian and you don't know the intent of Christianity is love.

No love no peace, which means God failed, and God can not fail because he is God, then this can only be God doesn't exist and all religion are man made illusion.

DappaD:

That's where you have it wrong sir!
All of the 8.7million Jehovah's Witnesses in the world are all united by common goals and we all have the same beliefs taught from the Bible.

This your self assertive narrative is taking you no where

What is the intent of Jehovah witness.

GRIMMJOE:
What is the intent of Jehovah witness.

Since you do not have a receptive heart, there's no need going into all that because it's a fruitless discussion

Rozz:
till then,bye bye pastor wealthy man

repeating your lies over and over again, just like the false jw's do
all you liars will have your part in the lake of fire:

Rev 21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

GRIMMJOE:
It's quite simple, the intent

Christianity = Intent is Love
Islam = Intent is Peace

Your are a Christian and you don't know the intent of Christianity is love.

No love no peace, which means God failed, and God can not fail because he is God, then this can only be God doesn't exist and all religion are man made illusion.

I asked you A, you are answering B.

Firstly remember I told you, you have been decieved and lied to for long. Yiu have no single knowledge of what Christianity is. You have been sold a lie, bro. Love is not an intent, it is a product. Intent is knowing God sir. Don't let anyone deceive you again.

This is the reason you have a false reasoning about God. You were told Christianity intent is love, now no love no peace then it is false. And then start blaming God.

You better start listening to the truth. Love will wax cold, peace will cease. God intent to man will remain, to know him through Christ Jesus. Every other thing is a product of this.

Either in peace or war, in love or hatred, in many or little, in having or starving, in persecution or embrace, Christ to humanity remain the intent in the scriptures.

Until you start knowing this, you will continue your search without end.

@ hoopernikao I believe our discussion is concluded

The intent knowing God though Christ, is an incredible failure and a God can't fail in his purpose.

Not every Christian will agree with the intent you gave, everyone with the illusion the want to see.

You don't know the intent of other religion yet you consider them false.

Just think all this through.

DappaD:

Since you do not have a receptive heart, there's no need going into all that because it's a fruitless discussion

Just say you have nothing to say, whatever the intent of JW is your God has failed, 140 is too much for a God to do anything.

Rozz:
At least more focused than you,i don't follow crowd.In the world we live today,truthfull people are despised,i don't hate people because everyone else hates them,christ preaches love but what do we have in the present day Christianity? you are an example of the present day christian

lie lie rozz, you say just anything out of your head
just like false jw's mad max and tatime do, you make good little false jw

this is your final destiny, and the destiny
of all you habitual liars:

Rev_20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.

hoopernikao:




I asked you A, you are answering B.

Firstly remember I told you, you have been decieved and lied to for long. Yiu have no single knowledge of what Christianity is. You have been sold a lie, bro. Love is not an intent, it is a product. Intent is knowing God sir. Don't let anyone deceive you again.

This is the reason you have a false reasoning about God. You were told Christianity intent is love, now no love no peace then it is false. And then start blaming God.

You better start listening to the truth. Love will wax cold, peace will cease. God intent to man will remain, to know him through Christ Jesus. Every other thing is a product of this.

Either in peace or war, in love or hatred, in many or little, in having or starving, in persecution or embrace, Christ to humanity remain the intent in the scriptures.

Until you start knowing this, you will continue your search without end.

Hoopernikao you're not being honest, you see what I say about going all out to protect your illusion.

Do you also know the intent of Muslims?

Why not end the conversation, the hunger to win is clouding your cognitive.

GRIMMJOE:
@ hoopernikao I believe our discussion is concluded

The intent knowing God though Christ, is an incredible failure and a God can't fail in his purpose.

Not every Christian will agree with the intent you gave, everyone with the illusion the want to see.

You don't know the intent of other religion yet you consider them false.

Just think all this through.

If you conclude now, it is surely good.

But I trust that your yearning heart have received a part of the truth. And your steps will be ordered more to places you will receive more.

I trust same God you despise, to work through circumstances, those things that seems real and perfect to you and use them to direct your path aright.

I have no doubt that all your burdens, hatred and vile will fade away in the light of the gospel of Christ in due time. Amen.

GRIMMJOE:
Hoopernikao you're not being honest, you see what I say about going all out to protect your illusion.

Do you also know the intent of Muslims?

Why not end the conversation, the hunger to win is clouding your cognitive.

You already ended it on a good note.

GRIMMJOE:
Just say you have nothing to say, whatever the intent of JW is your God has failed, 140 is too much for a God to do anything.

That's just your personal opinion on things
And no one really cares what your opinions are

lie lie rozz and lying mad max and lying girlie tatime, if i have missed replying to any of your very many sewer mouth posts
post me the link

hoopernikao:


If you conclude now, it is surely good.

But I trust that your yearning heart have received a part of the truth. And your steps will be ordered more to places you will receive more.

I trust same God you despise, to work through circumstances, those things that seems real and perfect to you and use them to direct your path aright.

I have no doubt that all your burdens, hatred and vile will fade away in the light of the gospel of Christ in due time. Amen.

I forgot to ask you something, it's straight forward.

What is the intent of Atheism.

GRIMMJOE:
I forgot to ask you something, is straight forward.

What is the intent of Atheism.

Is like asking me what is the intent of physiology. It isn't my field or my concern. Those who find peace in Atheism should tell me the intent.

I hope there is one.

DappaD:

That's just your personal opinion on things
And no one really cares what your opinions are

It's OK to ask questions you're not losing your heaven, it doesn't exist it never will.

hoopernikao:


Is like asking me what is the intent of physiology. It isn't my field or my concern. Those who find peace in Atheism should tell me the intent.

I hope there is one.

It's free thinking, I'm sure that's self explanatory.

those girlie backbiters - gossipers, lying mad max and lying tatime
claim to be God's loving group, laughing