Clevite:


You can actually agree or disagree without throwing manner to the wind, friend!

According to Article 31(1)(iii) of APC's Constitution, "All nominations into elective offices shall be supported by a specified number of nominations from the RELEVANT CONSTITUENCIES, as may be prescribed or provided for in the Party's Electoral Guidelines".

The foundation of all anyone wants to become within any political party starts from local constituency. He or she must first be nominated by their constituents before they can stand any chance of being elected into any office within the Party or in a general election. That's why the process for the suspension of Adams Oshiomole as Party Chairman could be started from his constituency.

You quoted something and managed to muddle it up yourself. How does "relevant constituency" equate to local constituency in your mind

This one. Na foolish comment abeg. Try again.
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post=90877369:

I'm not a member of PDP, but serious I don't know why you are afraid of your shadow, you like blaming others of your predicaments, the other day it was Igbos you were attacking for APC crisis now PDP instead of the real actors, Fayemi, El rufai, Amechi, even Ambode, your hypocrisy is beyond the world, when Ali Modu Sheriff was distablising PDP you guys were busy supporting, I thought you guys claimed to know politics, this is part of it, you don't expect opposition parties to be quiet when crisis is ravaging your party, the person you're supporting might tomorrow port to PDP, only change is constant.

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Agboriotejoye:

He's representing south not south south. You're mixing things up. Besides, he wasn't nominated by rivers state excos so the rivers APC lacks locus standi on the matter.

South or South-South, Giadom couldn't have represented a Zone or a Sub-Zone in the Party without having a leg to stand in his own Constituency. He must be nominated and presented by his constituent members. That's the Constitutional requirement.He can't avoid it.

How could Giadom have represented a whole political Zone comprising of many States, without being nominated by Rivers State, his own very constituency? Even the President and the Governor, before being elected to occupy those Offices, must be nominated from their ward as a matter of primary condition.

Agboriotejoye:

You quoted something and managed to muddle it up yourself. How does "relevant constituency" equate to local constituency in your mind

Relevant constituency there refers to the specific constituency applicable to levels or hierachy of position a member seeks to occupy in or through the Party.

For instance, for the level of a Ward Chairman, nomination is limited to members of that Ward from various units. For a Local Government Party Chairman, nomination must come from all Wards in the LGA, for the State Party Chairman,then constituencies relevant for his nomination are all the LGAs in the State and so on.

PVision2020:

Lol....it's a different lawsuit. I truly overestimated you on this platform.
While the Abuja high court gave him an exparte order to act as chairman (through Salihu the plaintiff who now denies knowledge of such order) the Rivers State suit instituted against Gaidom stripped him of every right and privileges of a Member of the NWC which included him acting as Chairman.

Na today you know Engineerboat has nothing upstair? Na Atiku crook the guy be now. Anyway belle face

HIGHESTPOPORI:
Same Ajimobi in coma?

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=3122188091227810&id=100003099490509&sfnsn=scwspwa&extid=bby0dZ8GCywZuIff&d=w&vh=i

This is Ajumobi as at today after recovering from covid19. You can go and die

Clevite:

Relevant constituency there refers to the specific constituency applicable to levels or hierachy of position a member seeks to occupy in or through the Party.

For instance, for the level of a Ward Chairman, nomination is limited to members of that Ward from various units. For a Local Government Party Chairman, nomination must come from all Wards in the LGA, for the State Party Chairman,then constituencies relevant for his nomination are all the LGAs in the State and so on.

Your interpretation is very wrong and not practicable. Let's start from the top. You mean oshiomole as party chairman was nominated by all the wards in Nigeria? Or Ajimobi was nominated by ask the wards in the south? Constituency refers to the particular group with the right to fill the position. E.g. National chairmanship was zoned to the south. It means the southern caucus must endorse his candidacy for him to be able to contest. Same with Ajimobi who is representing the sw as deputy national chair, the sw caucus must endorse his candidacy. Hope you undertande now

Clevite:

South or South-South, Giadom couldn't have represented a Zone or a Sub-Zone in the Party without having a leg to stand in his own Constituency. He must be nominated and presented by his constituent members. That's the Constitutional requirement.He can't avoid it.

How could Giadom have represented a whole political Zone comprising of many States, without being nominated by Rivers State, his own very constituency? Even the President and the Governor, before being elected to occupy those Offices, must be nominated from their ward as a matter of primary condition.

He can. The position is to be filled by the south not rivers APC. What needs is the endorsement of the south not rivers APC. If the south zones it to rivers APC then he'll need their endorsement. But if it is left for anyone from the south, then he doesn't need their endorsement. You've confused yourself.

Clevite:

South or South-South, Giadom couldn't have represented a Zone or a Sub-Zone in the Party without having a leg to stand in his own Constituency. He must be nominated and presented by his constituent members. That's the Constitutional requirement.He can't avoid it.

How could Giadom have represented a whole political Zone comprising of many States, without being nominated by Rivers State, his own very constituency? Even the President and the Governor, before being elected to occupy those Offices, must be nominated from their ward as a matter of primary condition.

Eehn!! What am I hearing? The president must be nominated by his ward? Where did you get dis from?

Agboriotejoye:

He can. The position is to be filled by the south not rivers APC. What needs is the endorsement of the south not rivers APC. If the south zones it to rivers APC then he'll need their endorsement. But if it is left for anyone from the south, then he doesn't need their endorsement. You've confused yourself.

Giadom will be removed next week whether you like it or not.majority of the ss states will vote against him.infact if you wish,majority of the southern states are against him

Dansuqi:


Giadom will be removed next week whether you like it or not.majority of the ss states will vote against him.infact if you wish,majority of the southern states are against him

So you agree he's the authentic chairman not Etta?

Agboriotejoye:

So you agree he's the authentic chairman not Etta?

No,etta is the authentic chair barring oshiomhole resumption

OPPPS:

Na today you know Engineerboat has nothing upstair? Na Atiku crook the guy be now. Anyway belle face

Is that the reason why you people keep galivating up and down on crooked lifting suspension.

Hope your eyes is clear now

Dansuqi:


No,etta is the authentic chair barring oshiomhole resumption

Lol. Bros which one you dey?

Agboriotejoye:


Lol. Bros which one you dey?

Am with etta.everything giadom is standing on is faulty.why not say that you love my company

Backdated waiver

Dansuqi:


Am with etta.everything giadom is standing on is faulty.why not say that you love my company

Love your company as how?
Is dis dude gay
Fergie001?

Agboriotejoye:

Love your company as how?
Is dis dude gay
Fergie001?

I was about to ask you same...since it is getting to that insultive stage,I take my leave

Dansuqi:


I was about to ask you same...since it is getting to that insultive stage,I take my leave

I have looked into the cases of learned Counsels, Agboriotejoye (Senior Advocate of Nairaland) and Dansuqi (Senior Advocate of Nairaland);
The appellant have brought forward three prayers:-
1. That the Ojezua faction remains the authentic faction of the APC
2. By virtue of the apc constitution and the processes entailed thereof, that Oshiomhole remains suspended.
3. That Giadom remains the authentic Ag National Shiaman of the APC.


I have read this Constitution of the APC in line with previous judgements of higher Courts in...
ejimatic v fergie001
kahal29 & 2 Ors v Lostz
Agboriotejoye v senatordave1
lala, mynd v livebyday & 2 Ors

FINAL JUDGEMENT
"When a matter is stronger than you, leave it for God" per fergieo001 NL.02/2019

This Honourable Court yaff tire....We leave it for God...

Make Una no quarrel abeg

fergie001:

I have looked into the cases of learned Counsels, Agboriotejoye (Senior Advocate of Nairaland) and Dansuqi (Senior Advocate of Nairaland);
The appellant have brought forward three prayers:-
1. That the Ojezua faction remains the authentic faction of the APC
2. By virtue of the apc constitution and the processes entailed thereof, that Oshiomhole remains suspended.
3. That Giadom remains the authentic Ag National Shiaman of the APC.


I have read this Constitution of the APC in line with previous judgements outlined by previous judgements of higher Courts in...
ejimatic v fergie001
kahal29 & 2 Ors v Lostz
Agboriotejoye v senatordave1
lala, mynd v livebyday & 2 Ors

FINAL JUDGEMENT
"When a matter is stronger than you, leave it for God" per fergieo001 NL.02/2019

This Honourable Court yaff tire....We leave it for God...

Make Una quarrel abeg

I accept your judgment

Dansuqi:

I accept your judgment

As your lordship pleases!

fergie001:

I have looked into the cases of learned Counsels, Agboriotejoye (Senior Advocate of Nairaland) and Dansuqi (Senior Advocate of Nairaland);
The appellant have brought forward three prayers:-
1. That the Ojezua faction remains the authentic faction of the APC
2. By virtue of the apc constitution and the processes entailed thereof, that Oshiomhole remains suspended.
3. That Giadom remains the authentic Ag National Shiaman of the APC.


I have read this Constitution of the APC in line with previous judgements of higher Courts in...
ejimatic v fergie001
kahal29 & 2 Ors v Lostz
Agboriotejoye v senatordave1
lala, mynd v livebyday & 2 Ors

FINAL JUDGEMENT
"When a matter is stronger than you, leave it for God" per fergieo001 NL.02/2019

This Honourable Court yaff tire....We leave it for God...

Make Una quarrel abeg

. As your lordship pleases!

ejimatic:
As your lordship pleases!

Just heard that the nwc has ratified oshio release from suspension

Agboriotejoye:

Your interpretation is very wrong and not practicable. Let's start from the top. [b]You mean oshiomole as party chairman was nominated by all the wards in Nigeria? Or Ajimobi was nominated by ask the wards in the south? [/b]Constituency refers to the particular group with the right to fill the position. E.g. National chairmanship was zoned to the south. It means the southern caucus must endorse his candidacy for him to be able to contest. Same with Ajimobi who is representing the sw as deputy national chair, the sw caucus must endorse his candidacy. Hope you undertande now

No! But their nomination must come from their primary constituencies as relevant to them i.e. their wards. Their nomination must be supported by their wards primarily, before they can be endorsed to be validly appointed or elected into the offices by the State or Zonal constituents relevant to them, as the case may be. It doesn't mean all the wards in their State, Zone or Country, when the position is a national one.

Without their nomination being made and supported from the primary constituents/wards, no Party member can validly hold any office within the Party at State or National level.

For an Officer of the Party to be qualified to hold any office within the Party at State or National level, he must be nominated for it through his ward. And for him to be granted a waiver to retain that Office while seeking for nomination or a ticket to contest in a general election, as in the case of Giadom, he must apply for it through his Ward, too.

Article 31(3)(iii) of the APC's Constitution provides: "A person may be granted a waiver ONLY ON THE CONDITION that: He or she applied for waiver in writing to the National Working Committee of the Party THROUGH HIS/HER APPROPRIATE WARD, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA/AREA COUNCIL, STATE, FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRITORY, and ZONAL COMMITTEES."

Clevite:


No! But their nomination must come from their primary constituencies [b]as relevant to them [/b]i.e. their wards. Their nomination must be supported by their wards primarily, before they can be endorsed to be validly appointed or elected into the offices by the State or Zonal constituents relevant to them, as the case may be. It doesn't mean all the wards in their State, Zone or Country, when the position is a national one.

Without their nomination being made and supported from the primary constituents/wards, no Party member can validly hold any office within the Party at State or National level.

For an Officer of the Party to be qualified to hold any office within the Party at State or National level, he must be nominated for it through his ward. And for him to be granted a waiver to retain that Office while seeking for nomination or a ticket to contest in a general election, as in the case of Giadom, he must apply for it through his Ward, too.

Article 31(3)(iii) of the APC's Constitution provides: "A person may be granted a waiver ONLY ON THE CONDITION that: He or she applied for waiver in writing to the National Working Committee of the Party THROUGH HIS/HER APPROPRIATE WARD, LOCAL GOVERNMENT AREA/AREA COUNCIL, STATE, FEDERAL CAPITAL TERRITORY, and ZONAL COMMITTEES."

What do you mean by relevant to them. The relevance is to the position not the individual. For example, someone representing North East has the whole north east as his constituency e.g. Read this link: https://www.nairaland.com/5939737/mustapha-salihu-applies-strikeout-court

There, you'll see this statement: "According to him, the North East stakeholders involving the Senate President, Ahmed Lawan, Secretary to the Government of the Federation SGF)l, Boss Mustapha and all APC Governors and members of the National Assembly from the zone, met and endorsed Bulama’s nomination for National Secretary and forwarded same to NEC for ratification .

He said; “I was part of the North East APC stakeholders that met and endorsed the nomination of Arc. Bulama and cannot go to court to seek for such position again.

“We the North East APC believe in the competence of Arc. Bulama and have appointed him into the position waiting for his ratification by the National Executive Committee NEC of the party.' This is in reference to the position of National secretary which was zoned to the North East. You can see that it's the north east caucus that endorsed Bulama and not his ward in his LG. Here, the NE is his constituency. Hope you get it now.

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fergie001:

I have looked into the cases of learned Counsels, Agboriotejoye (Senior Advocate of Nairaland) and Dansuqi (Senior Advocate of Nairaland);
The appellant have brought forward three prayers:-
1. That the Ojezua faction remains the authentic faction of the APC
2. By virtue of the apc constitution and the processes entailed thereof, that Oshiomhole remains suspended.
3. That Giadom remains the authentic Ag National Shiaman of the APC.


I have read this Constitution of the APC in line with previous judgements of higher Courts in...
ejimatic v fergie001
kahal29 & 2 Ors v Lostz
Agboriotejoye v senatordave1
lala, mynd v livebyday & 2 Ors

FINAL JUDGEMENT
"When a matter is stronger than you, leave it for God" per fergieo001 NL.02/2019

This Honourable Court yaff tire....We leave it for God...

Make Una quarrel abeg

Dansuqi:


Just heard that the nwc has ratified oshio release from suspension

Thought you said it needs no ratification. Bros you need to stay one place.

Agboriotejoye:

He can. The position is to be filled by the south not rivers APC. [b]What needs is the endorsement of the south not rivers APC. If the south zones it to rivers APC then he'll need their endorsement. But if it is left for anyone from the south, then he doesn't need their endorsement. [/b]You've confused yourself.

There is no provision of the Party or any Party whatsover, apart from APC, that permits a member to occupy any National Office without nomination and support from his primary base, his constituency. No Zone can impose a candidate from a State on his State Chapter without their contribution. Read Article 31(1)(iii) with Articles 2 & 3(iii) to get a clearer understanding.

It does not support even a common sense, rather than law, for a Party Officer not to need the people of his Ward and State to get to a National Office only for him to need them when he is to apply for a waiver in the same office.

For Giadom to have been elected/appointed into the Office of the Deputy National Secretary, he had passed through the nomination process through his Ward to the State and Zonal constituents. And when he was to seek a waiver to retain that Office till he would be nominated to contest for an elective office, that's why he had to apply again through his Ward up to his LGA , State and Zone as provided for in Article 3(iii) of the Party Constitution.

So it is wrong to say that Giadom did not need his Ward or Rivers State Party Chapter when he occupied the NWC Office. He actually did. Now, the same people have exercised their power in nominating another person to replace him. And I tell you, it is a valid nomination.

Agboriotejoye:

Thought you said it needs no ratification. Bros you need to stay one place.

Ditto

Clevite:


There is no provision of the Party or any Party whatsover, apart from APC, that permits a member to occupy any National Office without nomination abd support from his primary base, his constituency. No Zone can impose a candidate from a State on his State Chapter without their contribution. Read Article 31(1)(iii) with Articles 2 & 3(iii) to get a full understand. It doesn't even support a common sense for a Party Officer not to need the people of his Ward and State to get to a National Office only for him to need when he is to apply for a waiver.

For Giadom to have been elected/appointed into the Office of the Deputy National Secretary, he had passed through the nomination process through his Ward to the State and Zonal constituents. And when he was to seek a waiver to retain that Office till he would be nominated to contest for an elective office, that's why he had to apply again through his Ward up to his LGA , State and Zone as provided for in Article 3(iii) of the Party Constitution.

So it is wrong to say that Giadom did not need his Ward or Rivers State Party Chapter when he occupied the NWC Office. He actually did. Now, the same people have exercised their power in nominating another person to replace him. And I tell you, it is a valid nomination.

There's no point dragging it. I've quoted salihu's words for you. Besides, the news days rivers APC not his ward which will mean that the nomination is invalid going with your logic.

Agboriotejoye:

Eehn!! What am I hearing? The president must be nominated by his ward? Where did you get dis from?

Yes! The President and Governors as aspirants within the Party must be nominated and supported from their primary wards to be eligible to contest for the ticket to vie for election into the Offices under the Party flagship. What do you think the idea of picking Nomination Forms by Presidential and Gubernatorial aspirants is all about? Who is nominating who?

Get the Constitution and Electoral Guidelines of any major Party and get yourself familiar with all these things.

Clevite:


Yes! The President and Governors as aspirants within the Party must be nominated and supported from their primary wards to be eligible to contest for the ticket to vie for election into the Offices under the Party flagship. What do you think the idea of picking Nomination Forms by Presidential and Gubernatorial aspirants is all about? Who is nominating who?

Get the Constitution and Electoral Guidelines of any major Party and get yourself familiar with all these things.

Bros you're lying. Any party who does that has already gone against the electoral act which provides for one to vie for position through a party and for the candidates to emerge thru congresses. So imagine the ward refuses to endorse the person, that means he is not eligible to contest the primary which has abridged his right to contest.
What is needed is to be a registered member at ward level and then you meet the conditions set in the constitution for the office. With that, you're eligible to contest primaries regardless of whether your ward chairman likes you or not. This is even the first time I'm hearing the ward endorsement as requirement to run for public office.
Nomination forms are individually picked up at the national office of the parties not the ward. What does nomination form have to do with ward?