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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:40am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:


The tag "i'm through with you" is just to alert other followers that his is a dead case!
Now Rozz could grasp why i've been telling him the same thing right from the beginning of this thread, the guy is not mentally balance so responding to his talk is just a waste of time,effort and resources.
If he wants anyone to chat with, let him tell us the name of his church and their take on the topic of discuss! wink
he has refused to respond,he might even be an atheist like his friend the atheist evangelist grimmjoe
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:40am On Jun 21, 2020
Let me mimick my girl Rozz!

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achorladey:


You will go back to that DENOMINATIONS discussion back then. You have forgotten grin grin grin grin


No be today I don dey see I am through with YOU. It won't be the last likewise

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:41am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:
Let me mimick my girl Rozz!
ntor tongue
funny
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:49am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
he has refused to respond,he might even be an atheist like his friend the atheist evangelist grimmjoe

He was born into a JW family but he is not comfortable with the standard so instead of leaving for a religion of his choice he is attending meetings with JWs but underG he is an enemy in disguise.
Since this is a faceless social media forum Nairaland is a perfect place for him to express his crookedness, so if you ask him questions about what JWs are doing in the Kingdom Hall presently he will divulge everything as in downloading.
But ask him "do you agree with them?"
That's when he will start beating about the bush! cheesy

He is a perfect replicate of Satan the Devil, Jesus said Satan was born (created) in the truth but he hates the truth so he feels like twisting it to his own personal taste and that's not how things goes with God's Organization, that's what made Satan God's enemy! John 8:44

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 8:52am On Jun 21, 2020
TATIME:
I don't see anything worth arguing over this since you've all agreed on the same conclusion.

People are debating on the best farm produce of a certain town and most of the indigenes were shouting "beans!" while few were saying it's yam. Then one of the few said "if we remember vividly during the founding of our town the king, chiefs and all in attendance agreed to go for yam as the best food" then someone from the crowd shouted "NO! You're lying they didn't eat yam but pounded yam"

This topic is all about TRINITY, the OP said "i'm beginning to reason with JWs on this topic" all were coming and going to argue in support of TRINITY yet OP maintained that TRINITY has no pedigree.

Then Maximus said during Nigeria's Independence JWs (not any TRINITY Religion) was called to lead in Christian prayer, MuttleyLaff came in and said it's .
By the end of the day it was discovered that the so called GKS stemmed from JW Organization.
Is it not the same thing?
Why not any of the TRINITY Churches?
Why a religion that got it's teachings from Jehovah's Witnesses?
I think the matter has been resolved, this TRINITY has no reputation from the beginning till now, that's the point! undecided undecided undecided
Baba, I never discussed anything about trinity, because my position about trinity is not a secret on Nairaland. Now what I brought attention to was that God's Kingdom Society (i.e. GKS) was birthed in 1933, a year before the founder briefly had a stint with JW. Also, TATIME that he on the differing understanding of the essence of who and what Jehovah represents, Gideon Urhobo, was at loggerhead with Nnamdi Azikiwe, and so withdrew himself from supporting Nnamdi Azikiwe's NCNC political ambition. Another thing you guys aren't aware of is that Nnamdi Azikiwe was using a strategy to capitalise upon and exploit JW and use a political pawn, lmao
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:52am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:


He was born into a JW family but he is not comfortable with the standard so instead of leaving for a religion of his choice he is attending meetings with JWs but underG he is an enemy in disguise.
Since this is a faceless social media forum Nairaland is a perfect place for him to express his crookedness, so if you ask him questions about what JWs are doing in the Kingdom Hall presently he will divulge everything as in downloading.
But ask him "do you agree with them?"
That's when he will start beating about the bush! cheesy

He is a perfect replicate of Satan the Devil, Jesus said Satan was born (created) in the truth but he hates the truth so he feels like twisting it to his own personal taste and that's not how things goes with God's Organization, that's what made Satan God's enemy! John 8:44
Thats a serpentlike behavior,humans are complicated
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:56am On Jun 21, 2020
Well thanks for the update Sir.
So can we now continue with the topic of discuss TRINITY?
And don't forget to tell the forum the name of your own Church.
Once again thank you for the update! smiley smiley smiley
MuttleyLaff:
Baba, I never discussed anything about trinity, because my position about trinity is not a secret on Nairaland. Now what I brought attention to was that God's Kingdom Society (i.e. GKS) was birthed in 1933, a year before the founder briefly had a stint with JW. Also, TATIME that he on the differing understanding of the essence of who and what Jehovah represents, Gideon Urhobo, was at loggerhead with Nnamdi Azikiwe, and so withdrew himself from supporting Nnamdi Azikiwe's NCNC political ambition. Another thing you guys aren't aware of is that Nnamdi Azikiwe was using a strategy to capitalise upon and exploit JW and use a political pawn, lmao

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:58am On Jun 21, 2020
TATIME:


Maximus is even trying to help him by responding to his nonsense, i've ruled him completely out of my way, he doesn't worth responding to.
If he wants to be recognized as a meaningful commentator, let him tell the forum his church and their take on Trinity the topic of discuss. PERIOD! grin grin grin

..........Similarly, Jehovah’s Witnesses are not ignorant of others’ beliefs. They have gained considerable basic knowledge of the doctrinal beliefs of religions common in their area. Consideration to such teachings has been given in the book What Has Religion Done for Mankind? as well as numerous articles in The Watchtower and Awake! Such information on various religions is presented in the context of its contrast with accurate Biblical teachings........ Watchtower

Hence, it is out of wisdom and respect for God’s counsel that Jehovah’s Witnesses do not make a practice of exchanging valuable Bible study aids containing Scriptural truth for religious literature that disseminates error or apostate views.......... Watchtower

Many people who believe that ‘there is good in all religions’ might consider it narrow-minded to think otherwise. (Contrast Jesus’ view expressed at Matthew 7:13, 14, 21-23.)........ Watchtower

Achorladey: In essence should Jesus come today, HE WON'T find ONE GOOD in all other RELIGIONS grin grin grin except that of JWs. Of what importance do you need the name of the church they belong.

How do you define PREJUDICE.....Awake answers

A judgement or opinion, favourable or unfavorable, formed beforehand without due examination; a mental decision based on other grounds than REASON or justice; especially, a premature or adversely biased opinion........Awake


These are the same ones that wants EVERYONE to tell them the name of their CHURCH. grin grin grin grin grin.

Then the below......

So it would be foolhardy, as well as a waste of valuable time for Jehovah’s Witnesses to accept and expose themselves to false religious literature that is designed to deceive grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:00am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:
Let me mimick my girl Rozz!

ntor tongue

But you are THROUGH WITH ME grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:01am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
Thats a serpentlike behavior,humans are complicated

Jesus said they're a crooked generation, what they're expecting is for God to come and answer them directly so they can tell him "this is how you should have arranged the setting, me i'm not OK with this one"
So each one wants to set standards for God instead of humbly accepting God's standard. Romans 10:2-3
The same thing is what all the ATHEISTS you're seeing wants, but when JEHOVAH is fed up with their nonsense and ingredients he will wipe them off the surface of the earth so that we can have PEACE! Psalms 37:7-11
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:02am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
Thats a serpentlike behavior,humans are complicated

Didn't Jesus say you his follower should be CAUTIOUS like a SERPENT grin grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:06am On Jun 21, 2020
achorladey:


Didn't Jesus say you his follower should be CAUTIOUS like a SERPENT grin grin grin grin grin
where do you belong?please tell us your church and come out openly if you are an atheist
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:08am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
where do you belong?please tell us your church and come out openly if you are an atheist
Simple instruction, mention the name of your church and their take on TRINITY! undecided undecided undecided

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:11am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus said they're a crooked generation, what they're expecting is for God to come and answer them directly so they can tell him "this is how you should have arranged the setting, me i'm not OK with this one"
So each one wants to set standards for God instead of humbly accepting God's standard.
The same thing is what all the ATHEISTS you're seeing wants, but when JEHOVAH is fed up with their nonsense and ingredients he will wipe them off the surface of the earth so that we can have PEACE! Psalms 37:7-11

Jesus is willing and attentive to answer US after all he said he will be with his people until the end of THINGS.

Do tell Rozz too that Jesus wants his followers to be CAUTIOUS as a SERPENT grin grin grin grin grin


Proverbs 7:13....consider God's handiwork; who can straighten what he has made CROOKED? grin grin grin grin

In humans CROOKED nature God had done many THINGS through us grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:14am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
where do you belong?please tell us your church and come out openly if you are an atheist

After you are done joining Maximus69 with TAGS and LABELS of APOSTATES or ATHEIST grin grin grin

But Maximus69 have a list of who am I? Tell him to provide the information you seek.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:14am On Jun 21, 2020
achorladey:


Jesus is willing and attentive to answer US after all he said he will be with his people until the end of THINGS.

Do tell Rozz too that Jesus wants his followers to be CAUTIOUS as a SERPENT grin grin grin grin grin


Proverbs 7:13....consider God's handiwork; who can straighten what he has made CROOKED? grin grin grin grin

In humans CROOKED nature God had done many THINGS through us grin grin grin

just simple question that demands simple answer you are bitting round the bush
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:15am On Jun 21, 2020
achorladey:


After you are done joining Maximus69 with TAGS and LABELS of APOSTATES or ATHEIST grin grin grin

But Maximus69 have a list of who am I? Tell him to provide the information you seek.
lets here from the horse's mouth
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:19am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
lets here from the horse's mouth

But Maximus69 has EQUALLY has taken over that HORSE'S MOUTH on this platform for long.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:20am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
just simple question that demands simple answer you are bitting round the bush

Madam let me beat around the bush. It's my bush. In your opening SALVO was the focus about the CHURCH they belong or TRINITY doctrine. But Maximus69 swayed you into CHURCH you followed. Someone one said the conversation went South on page 2 and you seem not to understand the point made.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 9:23am On Jun 21, 2020
TATIME:
Well thanks for the update Sir.
So can we now continue with the topic of discuss TRINITY?
And don't forget to tell the forum the name of your own Church.
Once again thank you for the update! smiley smiley smiley
Ekklesia/Ecclesia is not anything I own TATIME. Ekklesia/Ecclesia, as I am sure you are aware of is body of Christ and so it isn't anything, to meet anyone's else requirement(s) and/or expectation(s). I am not sure of the reason behind your and brethren's obsession with personalising Ekklesia/Ecclesia and what you aim to gain from such frivolousness

The least I own you is to put and set the record straight, so thanks for appreciating it.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:23am On Jun 21, 2020
achorladey:


Madam let me beat around the bush. It's my bush.
why are you ashamed of what you stand for
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:27am On Jun 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
Baba, I never discussed anything about trinity, because my position about trinity is not a secret on Nairaland. Now what I brought attention to was that God's Kingdom Society (i.e. GKS) was birthed in 1933, a year before the founder briefly had a stint with JW. Also, TATIME that he on the differing understanding of the essence of who and what Jehovah represents, Gideon Urhobo, was at loggerhead with Nnamdi Azikiwe, and so withdrew himself from supporting Nnamdi Azikiwe's NCNC political ambition. Another thing you guys aren't aware of is that Nnamdi Azikiwe was using a strategy to capitalise upon and exploit JW and use a political pawn, lmao
Ogbeni it is okay
Let's not go back to yesterday undecided
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:27am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
why are you ashamed of what you stand for

But you are the one raising QUESTIONS about being ashame.

I will task you bring back my post on this same THREAD about what I said concerning TRINITY.

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:29am On Jun 21, 2020
TATIME:
@ DappaD.

I agree with Maximus on introduction of one's Religion and stand on TRINITY first before coming in to argue because it's so obvious that the commentators are just coming in to argue baselessly not to make any meaningful contribution as per the topic of discussion but to find fault with JWs.
The achorladey man is also an apostate so ask him which Church he belongs and his stand on the topic that's when you'll see he had nothing meaningful to say! undecided undecided undecided

Totally understood! grin
I just couldn't seem to let go of it yesterday cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by MuttleyLaff: 9:30am On Jun 21, 2020
DappaD:
Ogbeni it is okay
Let's not go back to yesterday undecided
OK arakunri, if you say so, but at any rate , the fact is still intact that my position about trinity is not a secret on Nairaland. It is there in public and open domain for any curious enough to search

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:31am On Jun 21, 2020
MuttleyLaff:
OK arakunri, if you say so, but at any rate , the fact is still intact that my position about trinity is not a secret on Nairaland. It is there in public and open domain for any curious enough to search
Alright, no issues

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:58am On Jun 21, 2020
Rozz:
why are you ashamed of what you stand for

Is that not what i found so strange in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses? undecided

They're ever ready to stand up for their faith! Matthew 5:13-16

The Bible revealed to us what will happen to false religionists in the last days "they will be ashamed to come out publicly to declare where they belong" Isaiah 65:13-14

God's word adds "I will give my own worshipers a new name so that they'll be different from those who are suffering shame" Isaiah 65:15

My young lady, that's why none of them can come out publicly to declare the name of their hidden religions whereas they can all see God's holy mountain (JW Organization) right on top of all lower mountains! Matthew 5:14 compare to Isaiah 2:2 smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:03am On Jun 21, 2020
Maximus69:


Is that not what i found so strange in the midst of Jehovah's Witnesses? undecided

They're ever ready to stand up for their faith! Matthew 5:13-16

The Bible revealed to us what will happen to false religionists in the last days "they will be ashamed to come out publicly to declare where they belong" Isaiah 65:13-14

God's word adds "I will give my own worshipers a new name so that they'll be different from those who are suffering shame" Isaiah 65:15

My young lady, that's why none of them can come out publicly to declare the name of their hidden religions whereas they can all see God's holy mountain (JW Organization) right on top of all lower mountains! Matthew 5:14 compare to Isaiah 2:2 smiley

Well before everyone else let me declare myself.

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and TRINITY is nowhere to be found in the Bible so it's gibberish! undecided undecided undecided

That's the stand of my Organization and i'm proud to be a JW! smiley wink wink

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:07am On Jun 21, 2020
Ojoro cancelled Sir! wink

I'm the first to declare myself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses , Rozz can testify to that! grin
TATIME:


Well before everyone else let me declare myself.

I am one of Jehovah's Witnesses and TRINITY is nowhere to be found in the Bible so it's gibberish! undecided undecided undecided

That's the stand of my Organization and i'm proud to be a JW! smiley wink wink

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:20am On Jun 21, 2020
hoopernikao:


COGNITIVE
Cognition refers to "the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses".

It is derived from Latin word cognitio which means 'examination,' 'learning,' or 'knowledge',

Do you see where you failed it? You can't make decisions from cognition and claimed not to be influenced.

Cognitive comes from learning. That you learn it means you are influenced to do it. All influences are forms of learning. None of your actions today didn't come from learning, observing and training. Your mind is trained (influenced) to think how you think now. If you have been locked up some where all through your lifetime, would you have acquired or know all you do today? That is to let you know you are a product of your environment.

And what is happening to you now is that your environment is playing on your mind to let you think you are free thinking and making independent decisions. Independent decision are in absolute relativity to the immediate fact at hand. Your decision can be independent of influence A but that doesn't mean it is independent influence B or from all things.

It is obvious from all you have been writing that your thoughts are absolutely dependent and rule by your experiences and your surroundings. Sadly, those are the lowest form of intelligence and influence a man should have.
Jesus Christ! bros why na?

I said free thinking exist, you said it doesn't.

OK I volunteers to be a test subject, create the scenario where I will be influenced into doing something, in return I'll use my free thinking to make my decision.

This is simply a test to check if free thinking exist, go for it.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by GRIMMJOE(m): 11:22am On Jun 21, 2020
hoopernikao:


So, I how do you know that's the truth
it seems you love blind argument, haven't you seen an old midnight newspaper before, every body will get old, should I prove this too.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by fairheart(m): 1:36pm On Jun 21, 2020
It is not just that, there's nothing like Trinity. The mainstream Christians can't defend it scripturally. So you are right! There is God the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit! They are not equal in power, authority, etc. God the Father is one in one! Can I DM you?
Rozz:
Im not a JW but this Trinity stuff is somehow.You can never win an argument on Trinity with a JW,they seems to have alot to back up their argument.

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