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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:08pm On Jun 24, 2020
Austine1213:


Post the city pics

That was it..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 12:09pm On Jun 24, 2020
Austine1212:


An average south african
What criterias would you use to come to the conclusion that some one in South Africa is average because to properly compare we have to standardize the parameters, so please tell me, what parameters do you use to term someone as average in South Africa.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:10pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
so going by your blog.
50k of the population are children, do you think parents are more than that? grin
Even if you add the 'others population' do you think it can reach 700k..
Dude, arguing with facts abeg grin

I'm dropping you the facts from the United Nations human habitant, the world economic forum, the US government and numerous NGOs that have been to Kibera..

Your only source is what your government told you..
How accurate is data collection in Kenya ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Mzal3ndo(m): 12:11pm On Jun 24, 2020
Austine1212:


An average south african
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:12pm On Jun 24, 2020
68816419:

dis what same United Nations has to say about Kenya grin grin
those are not their words, it's ours, we needed that fund and we got it.
What about makoko that is hiding behind Bush to cover up the shame of the biggest slum title.? grin
Is it because it will terrorize more the other world poverty title that is currently holding?
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 12:12pm On Jun 24, 2020
grin grin grin grin

always bust them for their lies
68816419:

Never get tired of lying stupid rvp? grin grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:13pm On Jun 24, 2020
Danielnino00:


That was it..
Owww
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:15pm On Jun 24, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

What criterias would you use to come to the conclusion that some one in South Africa is average because to properly compare we have to standardize the parameters, so please tell me, what parameters do you use to term someone as average in South Africa.

One who's neither poor or rich
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 12:16pm On Jun 24, 2020
jln115:
well by your own logic his crumbs are 3 times more than you earn1 grin grin grin grin grin

So what does that make you?

Do you know how much I make in a day despite being a college dropout..... I bet that I make more mulla than most of the graduates in here including you

College for me was just but a waste of time. So when that idiot Austine tells me that he's studying in most prestigious uni in the south of Sahara, I laugh him off because I know where's he gonna end up.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:22pm On Jun 24, 2020
Danielnino00:


I'm dropping you the facts from the United Nations human habitant, the world economic forum, the US government and numerous NGOs that have been to Kibera..

Your only source is what your government told you..
How accurate is data collection in Kenya ?
enlighten yourself.

[b]12Although our final result is far from the 1 million inhabitants, it is corroborated by other sources. UN-HABITAT did their estimation on the basis of a survey led by Research International in 2004. This survey found that the average household size was 5 persons and displayed an estimation of 400,000 to 700,000 people (Research International, 2005). Our survey has revealed that there is an average of 3.2 persons per households.

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera
Zoom Original (png, 52k)
Source: IFRA-Keyobs Field Survey (2009).

13In order to validate our final results, we compared them with other figures from different sources. Stephano Maurras (Map Kibera, 2008), an independent researcher, conducted a similar survey in May 2008, seeking for a credible figure of the Kibera population. He chose one village, (Kianda), for a door-to-door survey and extrapolated the number of dwellers to the whole of Kibera and his estimation of this population is 252,500 residents. If we base our calculation on the estimated figure of Kianda village, meaning an extrapolation of Kianda population, the estimation of the population is 271,319 inhabitants in Kibera. This method may give a higher result because Kianda was found to be one of the most densely populated villages (Figure 3). The Mapping Kibera Project survey corroborates the results of the Keyobs-IFRA survey as its findings are within the same range. Carolina for Kibera used approximately 90% of Gatwekera village in their longitudinal study; we added 10% to their results and found a very slight difference with ours (Table 2).

Table 2: Comparative Sources on Kibera Population

Village Name Other Sources’ Population Estimation IFRA Estimation
Kibera 252,500 (Map Kibera, 2008) 204,473
Gatwekera 24,402 (CFK) 24,666
Source: Carolina for Kibera (CFK) and Map Kibera, 2008.

14The combination of GIS and a ground survey is relevant for an estimation of the population of an informal settlement, although this methodology has its limits. The satellite image has a resolution of 0.6 m, which is not precise enough for the digitalization (design) of the buildings. While beginning the ground survey, we realized that the map was sometimes not accurate; trees hid houses, open spaces where designed as buildings and some buildings were not accurately shaped. Another challenge experienced in locating the right structure on the ground. The surveyors were sometimes tempted to choose a random structure when the one they were supposed to find was unreachable. Whenever the results were found inaccurate (a large structure with few people), investigations were repeated. Indeed, the figure of 205,000 dwellers in Kibera is much less than expected. Although a much higher figure was expected, the IFRA-Keyobs’ results are corroborated by other sources.

Who are the People Living in Kibera?
3 Kikuyus and Kambas are two different ethnic groups in Kenya.
15Also a subject of fantasy, the inhabitants of this informal settlement are often described, in the NGO and media discourse, as young and jobless. On NGO websites, statistics are given without any supporting sources and they are often alarmist about the socio-economic status of Kibera’s dwellers. As proven by the preceding field results, the average household consists of 3.2 persons which is lower than expected, going by research international’s findings of an average of five people per household. These findings could be explained by the high rate of single persons in the eastern part of Kibera (figure 4), where the average household size is less than 3 people. The 2007–8 post-election violence (PEV) might have played a role. Laini saba is a village from which a lot of Kikuyus and Kambas3 fled during that period of violence; this might also explain the high rates of single persons[/b]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
cropping ugly part won't save you.
Just post it the way it is grin
Nigga, Kenya has 47 counties, how many of these counties can be regarded as averagely developed? and if u remove the 5Km2 CBDs in Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa what you get is a fool blown slums. Kenyans should fckng Keep shut when slums are mentioned, grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 12:34pm On Jun 24, 2020
Magoha has 80 page CV and Nigeria is small part of it. Magoha did not only study but taught in those Nigeria university. Magoha is an example of an excellent Kenya professional that Tanzania dreads smiley they rathe close their border.

https://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/gmagoha/files/cv_for_prof__george_magoha-22-aug-2018.pdf
Danielnino00:

Cool story...

A graduate of the university of Lagos and University of Ibadan was the Vice chancellor of your country's biggest university grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:37pm On Jun 24, 2020
68816419:

Nigga, Kenya has 47 counties, how many of these counties can be regarded as averagely developed? and if u remove the 5Km2 CBDs in Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa what you get is a fool blown slums. Kenyans should fckng Keep shut when slums are mentioned, grin grin grin
Don't be decieved by those satellite view nigro. on ground we have already established your cities are slumbolish.
We may have less Buldings due to population demand but our Buldings are far much better than those in your zoo.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by chrisooblog: 12:38pm On Jun 24, 2020
i don't care if you know me or not

here is something to "brighten your afternoon

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/10/these-are-the-worlds-five-biggest-slums/
Shma:
Do i know you?.
I don't really like quoting stranger characters.
But I can leave you with this.

United Nations calls Nigeria's housing 'worst in world'

https://www.dw.com/en/united-nations-calls-nigerias-housing-worst-in-world/av-50568810

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 12:40pm On Jun 24, 2020
Saddamochieng00:


Do you know how much I make in a day despite being a college dropout..... I bet that I make more mulla than most of the graduates in here including you

College for me was just but a waste of time. So when that idiot Austine tells me that he's studying in most prestigious uni in the south of Sahara, I laugh him off because I know where's he gonna end up.
I couldn't care what you make bro wink Im simply saying the average Kenyan makes 3 times less than the average Black South African cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:48pm On Jun 24, 2020
Just30:
grin grin grin grin

always bust them for their lies
grin grin grin grin I hate lairs, Kenya has 47 counties but only less than 2% of all major cities are developed(Nairobi town Mombasa old town, the very tiny Nakuru and kisumu central ) the rest are full blown slums unlike Nigeria which has wide spreads developments, Kaduna,Kano,Imo,Ondo,Kastina,Kogi,Osun,Kwara,Enugu... have considerable wide spreads developments , check out the list of all the 47 counties in Kenya and please ask them to mention the developed counties out aside the previously mentioned ones?, all this colored counties are 99% slums , 1 Mombasa Coast 2 Kwale Coast 3 Kilifi Coast 4[b] Tana River Coast[/b] 5 Lamu Coast 6 Taita Taveta Coast 7 Garissa North Eastern 8 Wajir North Eastern 9 Mandera North Eastern 10 Marsabit Eastern 11 Isiolo Eastern,12 Meru Eastern 13 Tharaka Nithi Eastern 14 Embu Eastern 15 Kitui Eastern 16 Machakos Eastern 17 Makueni Eastern 18 Nyandarua Central 19 Nyeri Central 20 Kirinyaga Central 21 Murang'a Central 22 Kiambu Central 23 Turkana Rift Valley, 24 West Pokot Rift Valley 25 Samburu Rift Valley 26 Uasin Gishu Rift Valley 27 Trans-Nzoia Rift Valley 28 Elgeyo-Marakwet Rift Valley 29 Nandi Rift Valley 30 Baringo Rift Valley 31 Laikipia Rift Valley 32[b] Nakuru Rift Valley[/b] 33 Narok Rift Valley 34 Kajiado Rift Valley 35 Kericho Rift Valley 36 Bomet Rift Valley 37 Kakamega Western 38 Vihiga Western 39 Bungoma Western 40 Busia Western 41 Siaya Nyanza 42 Kisumu Nyanza 43 Homa Bay Nyanza 44 Migori Nyanza 45 Kisii Nyanza 46 Nyamira Nyanza 47 Nairobi

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
enlighten yourself.

[b]12Although our final result is far from the 1 million inhabitants, it is corroborated by other sources. UN-HABITAT did their estimation on the basis of a survey led by Research International in 2004. This survey found that the average household size was 5 persons and displayed an estimation of 400,000 to 700,000 people (Research International, 2005). Our survey has revealed that there is an average of 3.2 persons per households.

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera
Zoom Original (png, 52k)
Source: IFRA-Keyobs Field Survey (2009).

13In order to validate our final results, we compared them with other figures from different sources. Stephano Maurras (Map Kibera, 2008), an independent researcher, conducted a similar survey in May 2008, seeking for a credible figure of the Kibera population. He chose one village, (Kianda), for a door-to-door survey and extrapolated the number of dwellers to the whole of Kibera and his estimation of this population is 252,500 residents. If we base our calculation on the estimated figure of Kianda village, meaning an extrapolation of Kianda population, the estimation of the population is 271,319 inhabitants in Kibera. This method may give a higher result because Kianda was found to be one of the most densely populated villages (Figure 3). The Mapping Kibera Project survey corroborates the results of the Keyobs-IFRA survey as its findings are within the same range. Carolina for Kibera used approximately 90% of Gatwekera village in their longitudinal study; we added 10% to their results and found a very slight difference with ours (Table 2).

Table 2: Comparative Sources on Kibera Population

Village Name Other Sources’ Population Estimation IFRA Estimation
Kibera 252,500 (Map Kibera, 2008) 204,473
Gatwekera 24,402 (CFK) 24,666
Source: Carolina for Kibera (CFK) and Map Kibera, 2008.

14The combination of GIS and a ground survey is relevant for an estimation of the population of an informal settlement, although this methodology has its limits. The satellite image has a resolution of 0.6 m, which is not precise enough for the digitalization (design) of the buildings. While beginning the ground survey, we realized that the map was sometimes not accurate; trees hid houses, open spaces where designed as buildings and some buildings were not accurately shaped. Another challenge experienced in locating the right structure on the ground. The surveyors were sometimes tempted to choose a random structure when the one they were supposed to find was unreachable. Whenever the results were found inaccurate (a large structure with few people), investigations were repeated. Indeed, the figure of 205,000 dwellers in Kibera is much less than expected. Although a much higher figure was expected, the IFRA-Keyobs’ results are corroborated by other sources.

Who are the People Living in Kibera?
3 Kikuyus and Kambas are two different ethnic groups in Kenya.
15Also a subject of fantasy, the inhabitants of this informal settlement are often described, in the NGO and media discourse, as young and jobless. On NGO websites, statistics are given without any supporting sources and they are often alarmist about the socio-economic status of Kibera’s dwellers. As proven by the preceding field results, the average household consists of 3.2 persons which is lower than expected, going by research international’s findings of an average of five people per household. These findings could be explained by the high rate of single persons in the eastern part of Kibera (figure 4), where the average household size is less than 3 people. The 2007–8 post-election violence (PEV) might have played a role. Laini saba is a village from which a lot of Kikuyus and Kambas3 fled during that period of violence; this might also explain the high rates of single persons[/b]

There is nothing enlightening here..

It is 2020 and Kibera is still holding the title of Africa's biggest slum...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 12:55pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
Don't be decieved by those satellite view nigro. on ground we have already established your cities are slumbolish.
We may have less Buldings due to population demand but our Buldings are far much better than those in your zoo.
how many of your counties would u class as "Averagely Developed" outside the Nairobi,Nakuru,Mombasa,Kisumu CBDs?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 12:57pm On Jun 24, 2020
rvp2018:
Magoha has 80 page CV and Nigeria is small part of it. Magoha did not only study but taught in those Nigeria university. Magoha is an example of an excellent Kenya professional that Tanzania dreads smiley they rathe close their border.

https://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/gmagoha/files/cv_for_prof__george_magoha-22-aug-2018.pdf

He bagged his first degree at UNILAG you lying mofo...

He also worked at LUTH and UCH..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:04pm On Jun 24, 2020
what you just said is something they still dont understand

68816419:

grin grin grin grin[b] I hate lairs, Kenya has 47 counties but only less than 2% of all major cities are developed(Nairobi town Mombasa old town, the very tiny Nakuru and kisumu central ) the rest are full blown slums unlike Nigeria which have wide spreads developments, Kaduna,Kano,Imo,Ondo,Kastina,Kogi,Osun,Kwara,Enugu... have considerable wide spreads developments , check out the list of all the 47 counties Kenya and ask them to mention the developed counties out aside the previously mentioned ones[/b]? all the colored counties are 99% slums , 1 Mombasa Coast 2 Kwale Coast 3 Kilifi Coast 4[b] Tana River Coast[/b] 5 Lamu Coast 6 Taita Taveta Coast 7 Garissa North Eastern 8 Wajir North Eastern 9 Mandera North Eastern 10 Marsabit Eastern 11 Isiolo Eastern,12 Meru Eastern 13 Tharaka Nithi Eastern 14 Embu Eastern 15 Kitui Eastern 16 Machakos Eastern 17 Makueni Eastern 18 Nyandarua Central 19 Nyeri Central 20 Kirinyaga Central 21 Murang'a Central 22 Kiambu Central 23 Turkana Rift Valley, 24 West Pokot Rift Valley 25 Samburu Rift Valley 26 Uasin Gishu Rift Valley 27 Trans-Nzoia Rift Valley 28 Elgeyo-Marakwet Rift Valley 29 Nandi Rift Valley 30 Baringo Rift Valley 31 Laikipia Rift Valley 32[b] Nakuru Rift Valley[/b] 33 Narok Rift Valley 34 Kajiado Rift Valley 35 Kericho Rift Valley 36 Bomet Rift Valley 37 Kakamega Western 38 Vihiga Western 39 Bungoma Western 40 Busia Western 41 Siaya Nyanza 42 Kisumu Nyanza 43 Homa Bay Nyanza 44 Migori Nyanza 45 Kisii Nyanza 46 Nyamira Nyanza 47 Nairobi

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Just30: 1:06pm On Jun 24, 2020
Facts
68816419:

Nigga, Kenya has 47 counties, how many of these counties can be regarded as averagely developed? and if u remove the 5Km2 CBDs in Nairobi, Nakuru and Mombasa what you get is a fool blown slums. Kenyans should fckng Keep shut when slums are mentioned, grin grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:10pm On Jun 24, 2020
rvp2018:
Magoha has 80 page CV and Nigeria is small part of it. Magoha did not only study but taught in those Nigeria university. Magoha is an example of an excellent Kenya professional that Tanzania dreads smiley they rathe close their border.

https://profiles.uonbi.ac.ke/gmagoha/files/cv_for_prof__george_magoha-22-aug-2018.pdf
Very Impressive CV I must confess,one of the very few Kenyans i respect, the old man seems to enjoy Lagos so much to an extend of returning became even when he became a Registrar in Renal Transplant and Urology units in 1983 at Royal Postgraduate Medical School Hammersmith Hospital, London

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:18pm On Jun 24, 2020
chrisooblog:
i don't care if you know me or not

here is something to "brighten your afternoon

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2016/10/these-are-the-worlds-five-biggest-slums/
So your list is claiming Khayelitsha, Cape Town in South Africa to be the world largest slum outsmarting makoko?? ; shocked
You must be those special kinds of ignorant in this forum. undecided
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:21pm On Jun 24, 2020
68816419:

how many of your counties would u class as "Averagely Developed" outside the Nairobi,Nakuru,Mombasa,Kisumu CBDs?
all the 47 counties. wink
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:25pm On Jun 24, 2020
Danielnino00:


There is nothing enlightening here..

It is 2020 and Kibera is still holding the title of Africa's biggest slum...
That list is bs, they just traced progressing countries like Kenya and SA then pin that title to drag us behind but when facts redirects us to the drawing board with the support of evidence on ground, Nigeria will automatically be holding the world five biggest slums in the world.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by 68816419: 1:28pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
all the 47 counties. wink
grin grin grin grin grin grin even Taita Taveta, Mandera and Marsabit ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jun 24, 2020
Mzal3ndo:

You said average SA is wealthier than an average TZ and i ask how do you define average? With a white collar job? College educated? Living about the poverty line?
Do I need to teach you English?
By wealth, education and living above the poverty line
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:29pm On Jun 24, 2020
68816419:

Very Impressive CV I must confess,one of the very few Kenyans i respect, the old man seems to enjoy Lagos so much to an extend of returning became even when he became a Registrar in Renal Transplant and Urology units in 1983 at Royal Postgraduate Medical School Hammersmith Hospital, London
you didn't read your screenshort well.
It says he was a medical practitioner in Lagos school of anatomy.
When he was performing his work for those igbos, he was staying at a nearby residential area for medical staffs.
He then started lecturing your yorubas and igbos in those school of medicine.
He then became a consultant surgeon in your place., so every igbos and yorubas doctors were going to him for consultation. grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 1:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:

That list is bs, they just traced progressing countries like Kenya and SA then pin that title to drag us behind but when facts redirects us to the drawing board with the support of evidence on ground, Nigeria will automatically be holding the world five biggest slums in the world.

Cool story...

A lot of NGOs havw worked in Kibera..

Let's not forget that the EU is helping to feed people there too ..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 1:31pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
you didn't read your screenshort well.
It says he was a medical practitioner in Lagos school of anatomy.
When he was performing his work for those igbos, he was staying at a nearby residential area for medical staffs.
He then started lecturing your yorubas and igbos in those school of medicine.

We educated him...
He was a scholarship student at UNILAG

He did his internship at LUTH.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:33pm On Jun 24, 2020
Danielnino00:


We educated him...
He was a scholarship student at UNILAG

He did his internship at LUTH.

have a look.
The brains of kenya in your land. wink

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 1:34pm On Jun 24, 2020
68816419:
grin grin grin grin grin grin even Taita Taveta, Mandera and Marsabit ?
yeah. wink
Should I post taita taveta?

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