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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 8:35pm On Jun 24, 2020
ah shoot.
here lies another ignorant post....aarrgh!

do you know the akwa ibom state where uyo city is located is richer than Mombasa?

uyo has always been better than Mombasa in most areas except tourism.

you're talking from your 'high place of authority' (probably on your wooden bench) typing all these like you have stuff to back them up.


vankelvin:


Are you not even ashamed of yourself?
Is it the streets or the landscapping that will destroy Mombasa?
Ah, this kind of unnecessary comparisons are getting uninteresting bro..
Admit, Its only Lagos and Abuja that can stand Mombasa.
Even if you compare PH or Calabar to Mombasa, it will make sense,
but to compare Enugu, Ibadan, Kano,Owerri, Uyo or Kaduna is unthinkable.

Please, spare us these low comparisons

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 8:39pm On Jun 24, 2020
AskiaHarem:


Thanks for posting the real Kenya and nobody cares about the washed up singer known as Chris Brown. Kenyans forever hyping up mediocrity. smiley
wait till one of their artistes feature Chris brown. grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:43pm On Jun 24, 2020
I have not disputed their wealth or how much money they make.
All I have said is Mombasa is far far beautiful, planned and developed that Uyo.
And that is the fact.. You don't need to lie to make you look good okay..
Look at your own pictures, are you proud of UYO city as compared to Mombasa?


BeforeJuly:

ah shoot.
here lies another ignorant post....aarrgh!

do you know the akwa ibom state where uyo city is located is richer than Mombasa?

uyo has always been better than Mombasa in most areas except tourism.

you're talking from your 'high place of authority' (probably on your wooden bench) typing all these like you have stuff to back them up.


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 8:45pm On Jun 24, 2020
Saddamochieng00:
Internationally acclaimed cool
from these matatu bus (that's what they're called right?) images it's very obvious this doesn't serve the whole of Nairobi.

pretty sure the matatu's don't even transport half of the Nairobi daily commuters.

cos it they were we'd be seeing a lot of them in videos of Nairobi.

earlier today I watched a documentary on aljazeera on how corrupt the government medical infrastructure and procurement program in Kenya is and throughout their street walks not a single clown bus was spotted.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:46pm On Jun 24, 2020
Its so shocking only 9 African Countries have the Capacity to Host AFCON 24 Nations Cup.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 8:47pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:


Are you not even ashamed of yourself?
Is it the streets or the landscapping that will destroy Mombasa?
Ah, this kind of unnecessary comparisons are getting uninteresting bro..
Admit, Its only Lagos and Abuja that can stand Mombasa.
Even if you compare PH or Calabar to Mombasa, it will make sense,
but to compare Enugu, Ibadan, Kano,Owerri, Uyo or Kaduna is unthinkable.

Please, spare us these low comparisons

Lol, you're probably stupid.

Uyo? Seriously?
Get this into your skull, skylines are beautiful no doubt and attract tourists but it's useless when the citizens are suffering or when 90% of those buildings are empty. Take Tanzanian capital as a case study.

I'll tell you this, Uyo can't be compared with Mombasa on any ground. Word class Hospitals? Electricity? Stadiums? Road Network? Schools? Water? Just fvcking name it.

I won't deny it, Nigeria cities have bad skylines but many good cities around the world don't have towering buildings either.
Just spare us your bullshit.
You're talking as if you and your family have ever stepped into an elevator before. Lol �.

Man, you need to see Nigeria. I'm sure you won't return to your hell hole. Talk about standard of living and not some bullshit buildings snapped from different angles. Lol �.

Uyo and Mombasa? Guy, you are high.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 8:47pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:
I have not disputed their wealth or how much money they make.
All I have said is Mombasa is far far beautiful, planned and developed that Uyo.
And that is the fact.. You don't need to lie to make you look good okay..
Look at your own pictures, are you proud of UYO city as compared to Mombasa?


the same Mombasa that was posted here?

you might not have been following but that 'beautiful mombasa' you're screaming isn't bigger than 10 soccer fields.

now I'm really questioning your idea of beauty.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:48pm On Jun 24, 2020
AskiaHarem:


Thanks for posting the real Kenya and nobody cares about the washed up singer known as Chris Brown. Kenyans forever hyping up mediocrity. smiley

We never claimed to have the cleanest city in Africa. That title has been left for Kigali. In fact that pic was taken in the ghetto. Last time I checked ghettos weren't such decent places.

Our streets ain't that super clean but they've not reached this levels shocked

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:54pm On Jun 24, 2020
BeforeJuly:

from these matatu bus (that's what they're called right?) images it's very obvious this doesn't serve the whole of Nairobi.

pretty sure the matatu's don't even transport half of the Nairobi daily commuters.

cos it they were we'd be seeing a lot of them in videos of Nairobi.

earlier today I watched a documentary on aljazeera on how corrupt the government medical infrastructure and procurement program in Kenya is and throughout their street walks not a single clown bus was spotted.

These matatus mostly serve the ghettos and lower middle class estates that's why maybe you didn't spot them.

Let me give you a link where you'll find pictures of these matatus in their thousands.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CBoSc3OhYJi/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 8:57pm On Jun 24, 2020
Its so interesting how all of a sudden all nigerian guys on this platform are talking about how ''high rise'' buildings are not what makes a city beautiful? Its so strange? what happened? is it because Kenyan's are bullying Nigerian's with high rise buildings? because not long ago, in any comparisons, you will hear nigerians talking down on Ghanaian cities because we have few high rise buildings? bla bla bla?

Ok, I am not talking about high rise buildings but from the pictures with seen of Mombasa, Kiberi etc in Kenya, Uyo is behind.
Uyo has some nice roads, Stadium, etc, and the governor there is trying but please we are not blind to know what is beautiful..

Libraticazi:


Lol, you're probably stupid.

Uyo? Seriously?
Get this into your skull, skylines are beautiful no doubt and attract tourists but it's useless when the citizens are suffering or when 90% of those buildings are empty. Take Tanzanian capital as a case study.

I'll tell you this, Uyo can't be compared with Mombasa on any ground. Word class Hospitals? Electricity? Stadiums? Road Network? Schools? Water? Just fvcking name it.

I won't deny it, Nigeria cities have bad skylines but many good cities around the world don't have towering buildings either.
Just spare us your bullshit.
You're talking as if you and your family have ever stepped into an elevator before. Lol �.

Man, you need to see Nigeria. I'm sure you won't return to your hell hole. Talk about standard of living and not some bullshit buildings snapped from different angles. Lol �.

Uyo and Mombasa? Guy, you are high.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 8:58pm On Jun 24, 2020
BeforeJuly:

looool.

all these are just needless frivolities.

the only outcome I see from this is Kenyans paying more unnecessary transport fares to cover cost for these weird buses.
a bus with screens? are you kidding me?! grin

at the end of the day, wether it's a brt or a cab or even a danfo, the same services are being rendered. wink


E pain am grin

FYI matatus fare is very cheap as they serve ghettos and middle class estates.

You can't compare these works of genius with those yellow crappy danfos of yours.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 9:03pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:
Its so interesting how all of a sudden all nigerian guys on this platform are talking about how ''high rise'' buildings are not what makes a city beautiful? Its so strange? what happened? is it because Kenyan's are bullying Nigerian's with high rise buildings? because not long ago, in any comparisons, you will hear nigerians talking down on Ghanaian cities because we have few high rise buildings? bla bla bla?

Ok, I am not talking about high rise buildings but from the pictures with seen of Mombasa, Kiberi etc in Kenya, Uyo is behind.
Uyo has some nice roads, Stadium, etc, and the governor there is trying but please we are not blind to know what is beautiful..

You are high or stupid.
Who said Tall rising buildings don't make a city beautiful? Don't twist my words young man.
Who won't be wowed by Dubai? Lol.


I'm only trying to pass a point. Uyo is not among our top 5 cities but you can't compare Uyo with Mombasa.
Same Mombasa we know? Same Mombasa where you'll find shacks sitting next to tall buildings?
Same Mombasa we exposed? Should we still bring pics?

The whole developed part in Mombasa is not more than a street in Lagos. You get?
The rest are just glorified slums.

Don't twist my words to score cheap points. Ode.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:03pm On Jun 24, 2020
You guys talk as if you know other countries than their own citizens, but you can't take it in a good faith when others speak what they think about your country..
Well, the thing is, Nigerian Cities a large sake of their population, and aside Abuja, your cities are mostly 50 to 70% slums with about 30 to 35% good looking areas. so you always deceive yourselves into thinking your Cities are lit but NO, they are not.. So before you talk bad about other cities, kindly remind yourself on the real state of your own cities.

BeforeJuly:

the same Mombasa that was posted here?

you might not have been following but that 'beautiful mombasa' you're screaming isn't bigger than 10 soccer fields.

now I'm really questioning your idea of beauty.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 9:10pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:
You guys talk as if you know other countries than their own citizens, but you can't take it in a good faith when others speak what they think about your country..
Well, the thing is, Nigerian Cities a large sake of their population, and aside Abuja, your cities are mostly 50 to 70% slums with about 30 to 35% good looking areas. so you always deceive yourselves into thinking your Cities are lit but NO, they are not.. So before you talk bad about other cities, kindly remind yourself on the real state of your own cities.

You are truly a mad man.
A man should sit and watch others insult his country? Hypocrite.
Are you not shameless? The first thing you do every morning is to self-service to Nigerian issues on a Nigerian platform. Can't you locate your fellow citizens? You this inferior piece of shit.

We'll defend our country how we deem fit.
Fact remains, SA is the most developed. But comparing Nigeria and other countries is just embarrassing.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:11pm On Jun 24, 2020
Libraticazi:

You are high or stupid.
Who said Tall rising buildings don't make a city beautiful? Don't twist my words young man.
Who won't be wowed by Dubai? Lol.


I'm only trying to pass a point. Uyo is not among our top 5 cities but you can't compare Uyo with Mombasa.
Same Mombasa we know? Same Mombasa where you'll find shacks sitting next to tall buildings?
Same Mombasa we exposed? Should we still bring pics?

The whole developed part in Mombasa is not more than a street in Lagos. You get?
The rest are just glorified slums.

Don't twist my words to score cheap points. Ode.

And who won't be wowed by Paris.?
see the passion with which you talk about Mombasa? but we cannot talk same about UYO which is not beautiful?
All I see about UYO pictures are some dwarf buildings with rusty and shinny roofs..
You know what?
Mombasa with its 1000 faults is still beautiful than Uyo, Kaduna, Kano, ibadan and Owerri.
Perhaps PH and Calabar can stand a chance...

Mind you, you don't hold monopoly over insults so respect yourself..
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 9:12pm On Jun 24, 2020
BeforeJuly:

wait till one of their artistes feature Chris brown. grin

Nigerians and their empty chest beating. ;DThat song by breezy and davido is pure crap grin grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 9:15pm On Jun 24, 2020
Shma:
stop peddling lies bro.
We all know the situation on ground.
Kenya has its own piece of problems just like nigeria, but I can tell you for free that Nigeria is far WORSE than kenya. Its not a tall order to eradicate poverty, we did that four years down the line and there was a huge drop in proportion of Kenyan's living in poverty.

NAIROBI, March 22 (Reuters) - The proportion of Kenyans living in poverty has fallen by 10.5 percentage points in a decade, to 36.1 percent, the statistics office said on Thursday

Now tell me if it's not tantrum. where did you get the 94% figure? You don't have to be desperate digging bs when facts stares right through your eyes.

"94% of Kenyans are poor, live from hand to mouth" - world bank...

If you don't want to trust the world Bank data on your poverty figure, why should you trust their data on Nigeria's figure unless you are a hypocrite ?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:19pm On Jun 24, 2020
Libraticazi:

You are truly a mad man.
A man should sit and watch others insult his country? Hypocrite.
Are you not shameless? The first thing you do every morning is to self-service to Nigerian issues on a Nigerian platform. Can't you locate your fellow citizens? You this inferior piece of shit.

We'll defend our country how we deem fit.
Fact remains, SA is the most developed. But comparing Nigeria and other countries is just embarrassing.

I hope you will repeat this when Nigeria is being compared to SA?
because we were here when you same nigerian's were busily comparing Abuja to Pretoria and Durban? of which you guys said Abuja is ahead.
You guys even compared Lagos to Cape Town and Johannesburg.. Hypocrisy knows nigerians than any country.

And I am not asking you not to defend your country but some comparisons are just not good.

Waaw, ''Nigerian platform'' where they discuss other countries in a distasteful manner? so you expect your ancestors to come here and defend our countries when you guys start your things abi?
Don't start it.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 9:23pm On Jun 24, 2020
A report by the World Food Program (WFP) in partnership with UNICEF, and quoting stats from the World Bank, showed that 94 percent of Kenyans do not have any extra cash beyond what they need to survive “from day to day.”
Stats from the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics, broken down, indicate that 1 in 5 working Kenyans holds a permanent job, of these numbers, 2 million employees (about 95 percent) take home less than 100,000 shillings.
As leaders celebrate that Kenya is joining the league of “rich countries” with an economy valued at 10 trillion shillings, the common mwananchi on the ground has nothing to smile about.
The majority of Kenyans who work are just a cheque away into poverty. They are living from cheque to cheque and the moment an emergency strikes, they fall into a financial hall that is too dip to recover.

https://sokodirectory.com/2020/02/94-of-kenyans-are-poor-living-from-hand-to-mouth/



Shma. that's for you..


grin .. You would probably argue with it, but you it's true... grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 9:25pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:


And who won't be wowed by Paris.?
see the passion with which you talk about Mombasa? but we cannot talk same about UYO which is not beautiful?
All I see about UYO pictures are some dwarf buildings with rusty and shinny roofs..
You know what?
Mombasa with its 1000 faults is still beautiful than Uyo, Kaduna, Kano, ibadan and Owerri.
Perhaps PH and Calabar can stand a chance...

Mind you, you don't hold monopoly over insults so respect yourself..
Sorry Asshole.
You call this shit developed? No sane human will live in this shitty slum.

Wow, Mombasa is so beautiful. Lol.
We'll keep comparing Mombasa to Uyo, coz that's where it belongs.
Mombasa, look at your second most developed sh*t.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 9:25pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:
Its so shocking only 9 African Countries have the Capacity to Host AFCON 24 Nations Cup.

Click here for more>>>>>https://www.nairaland.com/5946679/expanded-afcon-country-host-24#91003084

And we are supposed to use your post as reference?

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by AskiaHarem(m): 9:27pm On Jun 24, 2020
Saddamochieng00:


We never claimed to have the cleanest city in Africa. That title has been left for Kigali. In fact that pic was taken in the ghetto. Last time I checked ghettos weren't such decent places.

Our streets ain't that super clean but they've not reached this levels shocked

I never claimed that you claimed you did stop making up $h1t to support your argument its pathetic. For the thousandth time old photos will not change the current reality of Kenya being the Slum poverty capital of the world. I know your desperate for ammo but this level of desperation from you is getting to pathetic. wink

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 9:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:


I hope you will repeat this when Nigeria is being compared to SA?
because we were here when you same nigerian's were busily comparing Abuja to Pretoria and Durban? of which you guys said Abuja is ahead.
You guys even compared Lagos to Cape Town and Johannesburg.. Hypocrisy knows nigerians than any country.

And I am not asking you not to defend your country but some comparisons are just not good.

Waaw, ''Nigerian platform'' where they discuss other countries in a distasteful manner? so you expect your ancestors to come here and defend our countries when you guys start your things abi?
Don't start it.

Look man, I'm not like others on this thread. I speak facts. I gain nothing from lying. SA is more developed than Nigeria, I won't deny it. Any Nigerian denying it is just doing it out of his love for his country. Okay? I'll argue when it comes to the Lives of blacks in SA.

Go and create a forum for your country man. It's easy with this cheap web developers around. I can even help you for free. Lol.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:30pm On Jun 24, 2020
Libraticazi:

Sorry Asshole.
You call this shit developed? No sane human will live in this shitty slum.

Wow, Mombasa is so beautiful. Lol.
We'll keep comparing Mombasa to Uyo, coz that's where it belongs.
Mombasa, look at your second most developed sh*t.

NO,
mr man,
I am a Ghanaian,100%
I ain't a Kenyan, I'm just saying what I know and have seen.
You were too quick to post the ugly picture of Mombasa but you failed to post it along side an ugly picture of Uyo.

Even though I'm not a Kenyan, I see Mombasa as a beautiful City than Uyo.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:31pm On Jun 24, 2020
And can you prove otherwise? grin grin grin grin

Danielnino00:


And we are supposed to use your post as reference?


Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Saddamochieng00(m): 9:32pm On Jun 24, 2020
BeforeJuly:

from these matatu bus (that's what they're called right?) images it's very obvious this doesn't serve the whole of Nairobi.

pretty sure the matatu's don't even transport half of the Nairobi daily commuters.

cos it they were we'd be seeing a lot of them in videos of Nairobi.

earlier today I watched a documentary on aljazeera on how corrupt the government medical infrastructure and procurement program in Kenya is and throughout their street walks not a single clown bus was spotted.

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 9:36pm On Jun 24, 2020
Saddamochieng00:


E pain am grin

FYI matatus fare is very cheap as they serve ghettos and middle class estates.

You can't compare these works of genius with those yellow crappy danfos of yours.

quote author=Saddamochieng00 post=91034397]


I'm not pained in any way.

just trying to avoid consuming half truths.

you should always post the real stuff.

so people, there are over a 100,000 matatus in Nairobi and most of them aren't the fancy buses you're you been made to believe. for all you know these shiny buses could make only 5% of the entire Nairobi matatu bus fleet. all you need to do is to run a Google image search on matatus and you'll see them in their real form.

below is a matatu sample in it's natural form and habitat.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:37pm On Jun 24, 2020
Libraticazi:


Look man, I'm not like others on this thread. I speak facts. I gain nothing from lying. SA is more developed than Nigeria, I won't deny it. Any Nigerian denying it is just doing it out of his love for his country. Okay? I'll argue when it comes to the Lives of blacks in SA.

Go and create a forum for your country man. It's easy with this cheap web developers around. I can even help you for free. Lol.

A talk of a cheap looser.
How do you compare Uyo to Mombasa.

That idea of non-nigerians should leave Nairaland will only happen when Nigerians stop writing nonsense about other countries here.
And if you think you can create a forum , then I will advice you to create one for yourself.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Libraticazi: 9:40pm On Jun 24, 2020
vankelvin:


NO,
mr man,
I am a Ghanaian,100%
I ain't a Kenyan, I'm just saying what I know and have seen.
You were too quick to post the ugly picture of Mombasa but you failed to post it along side an ugly picture of Uyo.

Even though I'm not a Kenyan, I see Mombasa as a beautiful City than Uyo.
As expected. Lol.
Y'all Africans are so obsessed with Nigeria. It's a good thing though. At least, we have fans.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I won't repeat the mistake of arguing with a Ghanaian. Ghana is just a slave and puppet to Nigeria. You guys are only useful for accomplishing our selfish aims in West Africa. Your country is nothing but a pawn

I feel so bad for exchanging words with you.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Noisyrians: 9:41pm On Jun 24, 2020
rubbish talk cool

[s]
Libraticazi:

As expected. Lol.
Y'all Africans are so obsessed with Nigeria. It's a good thing though. At least, we have fans.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I won't repeat the mistake of arguing with a Ghanaian. Ghana is just a slave and puppet to Nigeria. You guys are only useful for accomplishing our selfish aims in West Africa. Your country is nothing but a pawn

I feel so bad for exchanging words with you.
[/s]

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by vankelvin: 9:43pm On Jun 24, 2020
Libraticazi:

As expected. Lol.
Y'all Africans are so obsessed with Nigeria. It's a good thing though. At least, we have fans.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I won't repeat the mistake of arguing with a Ghanaian. Ghana is just a slave and puppet to Nigeria. You guys are only useful for accomplishing our selfish aims in West Africa. Your country is nothing but a pawn

I feel so bad for exchanging words with you.

That's a perfect description of how nigeria is to Ghana..
Our little fat brothers with their dry ego and empty pride.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by BeforeJuly: 9:44pm On Jun 24, 2020
[quote author=Saddamochieng00 post=91035579][/quote] oh so it's 12k and not 10k.
we're pretty much on the same page dawg.
most matatus are not what you're posting here and you know it.

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