AskiaHarem:


I never claimed that you claimed you did stop making up $h1t to support your argument its pathetic. For the thousandth time old photos will not change the current reality of Kenya being the Slum poverty capital of the world. I know your desperate for ammo but this level of desperation from you is getting to pathetic.

vankelvin:
And can you prove otherwise?

Libraticazi:

Sorry Asshole.
You call this shit developed? No sane human will live in this shitty slum.

Wow, Mombasa is so beautiful. Lol.
We'll keep comparing Mombasa to Uyo, coz that's where it belongs.
Mombasa, look at your second most developed sh*t.

BeforeJuly:


quote author=Saddamochieng00 post=91034397]


I'm not pained in any way.

just trying to avoid consuming half truths.

you should always post the real stuff.

so people, there are over a 100,000 matatus in Nairobi and most of them aren't the fancy buses you're you been made to believe. for all you know these shiny buses could make only 5% of the entire Nairobi matatu bus fleet. all you need to do is to run a Google image search on matatus and you'll see them in their real form.

below is a matatu sample in it's natural form and habitat.

vankelvin:
You guys talk as if you know other countries than their own citizens, but you can't take it in a good faith when others speak what they think about your country..

vankelvin:

Well, the thing is, Nigerian Cities a large sake of their population, and aside Abuja, your cities are mostly 50 to 70% slums with about 30 to 35% good looking areas. so you always deceive yourselves into thinking your Cities are lit but NO, they are not..

vankelvin:

So before you talk bad about other cities, kindly remind yourself on the real state of your own cities.

Danielnino00:


Yes...


Hosting an international tournament goes beyond having stadiums...
What about the transport facilities? Like how many city where those stadiums are located have airports or rail system ?
What about accommodation? How many of the cities have at least a 3 star hotel?
Security?

And lastly, is the host country willing to spend a lot of money on accommodation,feeding, logistics, and other costs to be incurred from hosting the event ? And are they sure of recouping their investment from the tournament?



You should highlight those points in your post to make it more credible...

BeforeJuly:

oh so it's 12k and not 10k.

we're pretty much on the same page dawg.

most matatus are not what you're posting here and you know it.

Saddamochieng00:


Nigerians and their empty chest beating. ;DThat song by breezy and davido is pure crap

Danielnino00:


Stupid Kenyans... . They decorate a few minibuses with paints and come online to call it "creativity" ..

Lagos Danfo drivers don't have the time for such nonsense

Saddamochieng00:


I never said that all the matatus are pimped up. The pimped ones constitute over a third of the total number.

It just depends on the hood. Some hoods have more than two thirds of their matatus matatus pimped up.

Those small seater matatus I posted up there operate in Mombasa. They are distinct from the nairobi ones as you can see below. The back side is kinda raised.

Pic 1 Mombasa
Pic 2 Nairobi

Saddamochieng00:

You poor azzes can't afford such

Libraticazi:

Sorry Asshole.
You call this shit developed? No sane human will live in this shitty slum.

Wow, Mombasa is so beautiful. Lol.
We'll keep comparing Mombasa to Uyo, coz that's where it belongs.
Mombasa, look at your second most developed sh*t.

Libraticazi:


2. Look man, I'm not like others on this thread. I speak facts. I gain nothing from lying. SA is more developed than Nigeria, I won't deny it. Any Nigerian denying it is just doing it out of his love for his country. 1. Okay? I'll argue when it comes to the Lives of blacks in SA.

Go and create a forum for your country man. It's easy with this cheap web developers around. I can even help you for free. Lol.

Libraticazi:

As expected. Lol.
Y'all Africans are so obsessed with Nigeria. It's a good thing though. At least, we have fans.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I won't repeat the mistake of arguing with a Ghanaian. Ghana is just a slave and puppet to Nigeria. You guys are only useful for accomplishing our selfish aims in West Africa. Your country is nothing but a pawn

I feel so bad for exchanging words with you.

vankelvin:


But did you actually read what I wrote?
please go back and read it again cos I included all of that in the write-up.

All these countries have all the things you are talking about.

Saddamochieng00:


You poor azzes can't afford such

Just30:


She said real Human Beings

Kuruptnigga:
You saw that eh

jln115:
Just30

Danielnino00:


You didn't.. you only gave a list of stadiums.. it would be balanced if you gave a list of the other facilities present within the city/town the stadiums are located...

obaaderemi:
It's better to let RIP2018 be. His lying culture is extraordinary.

Just30:
how could i not see it

Danielnino00:


You didn't.. you only gave a list of stadiums.. it would be balanced if you gave a list of the other facilities present within the city/town the stadiums are located...

vankelvin:


Well I agree with you on that but we all know South Africa, Egypt and Morocco are always ready to Host any Tournament because they have all the things you've listed ready at all times.

Countries like Tunisia and Algeria have not hosted such big tournaments for some years now but I tell you, they have it all.
Algeria for instance have placed bids for AFCON on a number of occasions but have not been given the chance to host.

Ghana and Nigeria have hosted tournaments with more than 6 stadiums and all those points you raised were available for those tournaments.

Libraticazi:

As expected. Lol.
Y'all Africans are so obsessed with Nigeria. It's a good thing though. At least, we have fans.
I'm sorry for arguing with you. I won't repeat the mistake of arguing with a Ghanaian. Ghana is just a slave and puppet to Nigeria. You guys are only useful for accomplishing our selfish aims in West Africa. Your country is nothing but a pawn

I feel so bad for exchanging words with you.

Shma:
enlighten yourself.

[b]12Although our final result is far from the 1 million inhabitants, it is corroborated by other sources. UN-HABITAT did their estimation on the basis of a survey led by Research International in 2004. This survey found that the average household size was 5 persons and displayed an estimation of 400,000 to 700,000 people (Research International, 2005). Our survey has revealed that there is an average of 3.2 persons per households.

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera

Figure 3: Population Density in Kibera
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Source: IFRA-Keyobs Field Survey (2009).

13In order to validate our final results, we compared them with other figures from different sources. Stephano Maurras (Map Kibera, 2008), an independent researcher, conducted a similar survey in May 2008, seeking for a credible figure of the Kibera population. He chose one village, (Kianda), for a door-to-door survey and extrapolated the number of dwellers to the whole of Kibera and his estimation of this population is 252,500 residents. If we base our calculation on the estimated figure of Kianda village, meaning an extrapolation of Kianda population, the estimation of the population is 271,319 inhabitants in Kibera. This method may give a higher result because Kianda was found to be one of the most densely populated villages (Figure 3). The Mapping Kibera Project survey corroborates the results of the Keyobs-IFRA survey as its findings are within the same range. Carolina for Kibera used approximately 90% of Gatwekera village in their longitudinal study; we added 10% to their results and found a very slight difference with ours (Table 2).

Table 2: Comparative Sources on Kibera Population

Village Name Other Sources’ Population Estimation IFRA Estimation
Kibera 252,500 (Map Kibera, 2008) 204,473
Gatwekera 24,402 (CFK) 24,666
Source: Carolina for Kibera (CFK) and Map Kibera, 2008.

14The combination of GIS and a ground survey is relevant for an estimation of the population of an informal settlement, although this methodology has its limits. The satellite image has a resolution of 0.6 m, which is not precise enough for the digitalization (design) of the buildings. While beginning the ground survey, we realized that the map was sometimes not accurate; trees hid houses, open spaces where designed as buildings and some buildings were not accurately shaped. Another challenge experienced in locating the right structure on the ground. The surveyors were sometimes tempted to choose a random structure when the one they were supposed to find was unreachable. Whenever the results were found inaccurate (a large structure with few people), investigations were repeated. Indeed, the figure of 205,000 dwellers in Kibera is much less than expected. Although a much higher figure was expected, the IFRA-Keyobs’ results are corroborated by other sources.

Who are the People Living in Kibera?
3 Kikuyus and Kambas are two different ethnic groups in Kenya.
15Also a subject of fantasy, the inhabitants of this informal settlement are often described, in the NGO and media discourse, as young and jobless. On NGO websites, statistics are given without any supporting sources and they are often alarmist about the socio-economic status of Kibera’s dwellers. As proven by the preceding field results, the average household consists of 3.2 persons which is lower than expected, going by research international’s findings of an average of five people per household. These findings could be explained by the high rate of single persons in the eastern part of Kibera (figure 4), where the average household size is less than 3 people. The 2007–8 post-election violence (PEV) might have played a role. Laini saba is a village from which a lot of Kikuyus and Kambas3 fled during that period of violence; this might also explain the high rates of single persons[/b]

jln115:
1. there is nothing to argue..... Black South Africans earn 3 times more than the average Nigerian or Kenyan for that matter and poverty in SA is around 18(according to the world Bank) as a whole and 21% wrt black South Africans.. Still much lower than the African average.

2. However I do commend the bolded..... Those that simply speak the truth on this thread without the B.S are few and far between..

Danielnino00:


They might also need money to upgrade some facilities...

Last last, we know the people that don't have what it takes to host ..
Na "one stadium" tournament them Sabi host...

vaxx:
You are crazy . Stop looking at Ghana with blind eye. Ghana has pushed India to the second side and become the largest Nigeria trading partner . Sheis gradually becoming country so important for Nigeria economic growth.


Both country government know more than you think.

Saddamochieng00:




A ret@rded scumbag from the dirtiest pigsty on earth calling Kenya dirty. Are you out of your mind idiot. Zoogeria and foul smell are like 5 and 6. Chai!!!!From open defacations to shit smelling peole, the stench is just too much to bear.

vaxx:
You are crazy . Stop looking at Ghana with blind eye. Ghana has pushed India to the second side and become the largest Nigeria trading partner . Sheis gradually becoming country so important for Nigeria economic growth.


Both country government know more than you think.