Hathor5:


We don't breed in my family. I didn't know your family are dogs.

"Breeding" is not a derogatory word. It's the same thing as upbringing.

Hathor5:


Next time choose your words more carefully when you talk about me and my family.

Good breeding can refer to etiquette, the unenforced standards of conduct which show the actor to be cultured, polite, and refined
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_breeding

Ill-bred means badly brought out or rude:
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/ill-bred

How saying you will prove your breeding equated to saying your family members are dogs beats me.

I knew you will show your content and breeding last last

bukatyne:



Good breeding can refer to etiquette, the unenforced standards of conduct which show the actor to be cultured, polite, and refined
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_breeding

Ill-bred means badly brought out or rude:
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/ill-bred

How saying you will prove your breeding equated to saying your family members are dogs beats me.

I knew you will show your content and breeding last last

My pleasure.

Heiterkeit:


"Breeding" is not a derogatory word. It's the same thing as upbringing.

She used it in a derogatory way referring to the way I was brought up hence my family. Her vile always shines through.

Hathor5:


I can assure you that a woman who runs a bath for her husband, cleans the house, looks after the children and is ready to have sex is not as hard to come by as you think.

it is Hard!.. In fact, very hard! It's a lot of work! Servitude takes your time and zaps your energy!.... This is the Submission we all don't want to hear.. It's far more than 'just sex'.. It is a lifestyle.. It is only easy to deliver when you are not paying bills! (a)

.. in other light, with lesser time and `energy` Making money is fun and enterprising plus plenty bragging rights and controlling power for a woman in a masculine world... (b)

...here, she would literally use her money to 'buy`submission, Only a foolish man would ask you come and run his bath, cook him a sumptuous dinner, give him a warm massage and make him relish his weird sexual fantasies without holding back..when she's just returning from work at 11pm....
here she pays the bill or SUPPORT as the case may be
....

Growing up in a typical Black community, most female grew up with the mindset (b) .. Some joined the train along the line...

But Men will always be men!.... Only a tiny percentage
No one can change that..

The women from Group B are beginning to cry premium tears, anonymous threads everywhere,.. 'dogs' biting the hands that fed them, women going bunkers, finances gone down, society hitting at them!!
..20/30/40/50 years of `building my man' is finally collapsing the minute her libido goes dry and breasts fallen, wrinkled eyes and better days, bones frail and beauty fades...
........ Oga Thomas wants a fresh young blood...now that money has come, Barbara the Builder can take a rest, Regina lo n so lowlowo!!
. Don't blame him, "afterall his a man"

They finally realized that `no evil has befallen the women in group A contrary to what the society fed them!.

... They realized they are the prize and the beat is starting to change, the dancefloor is becoming hot and everything is taking a different turn.. It is becoming survival of the fittest!

At the end of day, it's whatever rocks anyone's boat!
But always remember say only your own hands would never disappoint you as a woman. Your own money is your shock absorber. You need to make your own money to avoid nonsense!

.... But you see Man money...na goldmine... na him sweet pass! Pray to chop am, no be noise.. Your life go soft!

woman wey man dey spoil no get two heads abeg

bukatyne:


I think you girls need to talk to married people more viz a viz dream up what you think it should be in the 21st century.

Now, I think of it, a number of men I know who can afford it don't want their wives to pay bills even though they are working and expect their wives to cater to them.

I know some (extreme cases) who have housewives and cater fully to them to their undies and are fine with it.

In fact, that is what they want.

As men make more money, the are more concerned about wives who doll up and cater to them.

Doesn't mean these dolls don't have stuff going for them.

That's why they marry way younger ladies to 'make their blood fresh'.

At the end, a woman's resourcefulness is more important than her earnings.

No I don't need to talk to any Married women here or anywhere because I'm fully enlightened on financial aspect of marriage. I'm a product of marriage and my parents are still very much together. They will be celebrating their 30 years anniversary soon. Growing up,My Dad catered for almost all of our needs because Mom couldn't get a good paying job but she contributed with little she had. Along the line she got a better job and even though dad wouldn't mind catering as usual, Mom wouldn't allow it. She persuaded Dad and he agreed, my parents shared bills, (share isn't even the right word because that's like a percentage thing which isn't) Back in Uni, Daddy handled our school fees and feeding allowance, Mom handled Accommodation, course materials and other miscellaneous. Sometimes Dad help with the accommodations too especially in my brothers case whose house rents was kind of high. But both work and bring out their resources to train their children. Sometimes Mom send money for feeding. It depends on whose money is available.
And house chores? Lol they do it together. Dad can go to the market anytime bring food stuff or soup ingredients Sometimes he insist on cooking himself, the only problem we use to have then is ordering for tanker of water while eating his soup . But in all, these two work hand in hand.
My Sister is a Pharmacist, while her husband a business Man. He could cater for his family to the pin , he would have preferred my sister to be a sit home wife but she stood her ground. He reluctantly agreed, now during this Covid-19 period he is grateful to her for not agreeing to be a housewife.

See, I have a very different view of marriage. Marriage isn't a you or I thing for me. It is US . Whatever we do, we put one another first. Now won't I take care of the man I claim to love or my own child because some people believe it is a man's duty? Lol. Yes I know I can be more masculine than feminine in my thinking at times but the truth is male or female, I don't really see the difference in them in some situations like marriage what I believe in is mutual Respect,Love, commitment,Submission and Friendship. Whoever I will be marrying will understand this fact about me. We will be very willing to switch roles that's if gender roles even exist in our dictionary at all.

bukatyne:


@Hathor5

I am sure if you ask Azira if she would spilt bills, she would say yes with her full cheat.

Follow the conversation.

Yes nah! Isn't it for the betterment of my family?

Drfernandez:


As for @Mariangeles, sorry is your name.

Ahn ahn! Why na?
Is it because I don't agree with the idea of your wife equally sharing your responsibilities?

Onwere okwu ojoo di na ya?

Mariangeles:


How else can a man show his love for his family if not by working hard to provide for them?

On fathers' day, a man uploaded a picture of him with his children on his whatsapp status and captioned it " You make the hustle worth it" those words have deep meanings.

Let us tell ourselves the truth. It is what it is.
I'll keep saying God's truth no matter what.
Stop deceiving men like Romangalactic to appear "better" than other women.
If you doubt, study your bible. God hath made it so.

Prior to my first post on this thread, these women have said the below:

ImaIma.1:
This is how marriage should be. Not all those spouses that are in competition with each other.

ayomipoo.si:
First, she did not announce to anyone how she supports her family she only gave a practical example. Note she isn't the breadwinner as purported by you because I didn't see where she mentioned paying house rent, car maintenance or other utility bills. She only mentioned the basics which every other woman out there does. I only see her pointing it out categorically to drive her point. I understand her perfectly and I drew some serious lessons from her response.
At last she said something that made so much sense. She said "be sincere to each other and in that way, you won't mind who pays what"
Have you thought about what investments they would have had together? This is a faceless forum that's why she felt free to give such details.
@y.baby, pick the lessons and stop being disrespectful. Its not nice of you..

cococand.y:
How about if you support each other financially? You know like two people who want each other to succeed and not to over work themselves.

What category does that place the woman?
Queen or donkey?

Asking for a friend!.

Yet it is bukatyne coming three pages later that is deceiving women and trying to paint the picture of a 'perfect' wife; for who? You? Baby girl, I only strive to be perfect for my husband. He is the only one who would know me enough to make that statement meaningful to me

Is it a case of just seeing my moniker and going on overdrive or not quoting monikers you are friendly with because you are on opposing sides?

And lastly, can you provide a Bible verse against a woman sharing bills with her husband?

Palema007:
Yes nah! Isn't it for the betterment of my family?

But you wouldn't run your husband's bath and scrub his back?

yettymuse:
it is Hard!.. In fact, very hard! It's a lot of work! Servitude takes your time and zaps your energy!.... This is the Submission we all don't want to hear.. It's far more than 'just sex'.. It is a lifestyle.. It is only easy to deliver when you are not paying bills! (a)

.. in other light, with lesser time and `energy` Making money is fun and enterprising plus plenty bragging rights and controlling power for a woman in a masculine world... (b)

...here, she would literally use her money to 'buy`submission, Only a foolish man would ask you come and run his bath, cook him a sumptuous dinner, give him a warm massage and make him relish his weird sexual fantasies without holding back..when she's just returning from work at 11pm....
here she pays the bill or SUPPORT as the case may be
....

Growing up in a typical Black community, most female grew up with the mindset (b) .. Some joined the train along the line...

But Men will always be men!.... Only a tiny percentage
No one can change that..

The women from Group B are beginning to cry premium tears, anonymous threads everywhere,.. 'dogs' biting the hands that fed them, women going bunkers, finances gone down, society hitting at them!!
.. Years of '40 building my man' is finally collapsing the minute her libido goes dry and the breast fallen, wrinkled eyes and better days, bones frail and beauty fades...
........ Oga Thomas wants a fresh young blood...now that money has come, Barbara the Builder can take a rest, Regina lo n so lowlowo!!
. Don't blame him, "afterall his a man" society hitting at them..

They finally realized that `no evil has befallen the women in group A contrary to what the society fed them!.

... They realized they are the prize and the beat is starting to change, the dancefloor is becoming hot and everything is taking a different turn.. It is becoming survival of the fittest!

At the end of day, it's whatever rocks anyone's boat!
But always remember only your own hands would never disappoint you as a woman. Your own money is your shock absorber. You need to make your own money to avoid nonsense!

.... But you see Man money...na gold mine... na him sweet pass! Pray to chop am, no be noise.. Your life go soft!

woman wey man dey spoil no get two heads abeg

1. As we can even see on this thread there are enough ladies who want their men to provide fully to focus on the family. Isn't it on the same NL where men complain that Nigerian ladies are gold diggers?
2. Not every working lady marries a man who needs her help to be built.
3. Every lady can be left by their husband. It has nothing to do with her professional status but that should not stop you from running the bath water in the hope that he will overlook your wrinkles and saggy boobs later.
4. Your breast will sag whether you work or not and from pushing out all the babies and sleepless nights you will be wrinkled whether you want it or not.
5. A professional career can be easier and more enjoyable than what you have to do at home to run a family. Chances are high the latter will take a greater toll on you.
6. Working class ladies can afford maids and even plastic surgery.
7. People keep telling themselves stories that make them sleep better.

bukatyne:


Prior to my first post on this thread, these women have said the below:






Yet it is bukatyne coming three pages later that is deceiving women and trying to paint the picture of a 'perfect' wife; for who? You? Baby girl, I only strive to be perfect for my husband. He is the only one who would know me enough to make that statement meaningful to me

Is it a case of just seeing my moniker and going on overdrive or not quoting monikers you are friendly with because you are on opposing sides?

And lastly, can you provide a Bible verse against a woman sharing bills with her husband?

Are you mistaking me for Ybaby? Because I think you are
Don't try to play smart by twisting my words.

Hathor5:


1. As we can even see on this thread there are enough ladies who want their men to provide fully to focus on the family. Isn't it on the same NL where men complain that Nigerian ladies are gold diggers?
2. Not every working lady marries a man who needs her help to be built.
3. Every lady can be left by their husband. It has nothing to do with her professional status but that should not stop you from running the bath water in the hope that he will overlook your wrinkles and saggy boobs later.
4. Your breast will sag whether you work or not and from pushing out all the babies and sleepless nights you will be wrinkled whether you want it or not.
5. A professional career can be easier and more enjoyable than what you have to do at home to run a family. Chances are higher the latter will take a greater toll on you.
6. Working class ladies can afford maids and even plastic surgery.
7. People keep telling themselves stories that make them sleep better.

Hello hello one two one two!! Eskis ma, whatever rocks your boat

Hathor5:


I have no problem with couples who opt for the traditional model. It has many advantages for the family as a whole. Many more people would choose this model if they could afford it. The biggest disadvantage is that it leaves women in a vulnerable position. They will have to put up with statements such as "those who pay the piper bla bla bla" and their contribution to the family and even wider community is not only played down but disrespected even though the workload of a housewife who runs a well-organized household, cooks fresh food, looks after the children, takes care of the husband is colossal. The same people who have this mindset complain about women who no longer want to be oppressed and abused in the name of 'I dictate the tune" and opt for a career or demand that the husband shares chores and participates in childcare.

A woman with self respect,worth and purpose will work and earn even if the husband will take care of all expenses. Only a lazy one won't. Even if it is owing a small kiosk. She must work!

But then as for sharing bills, lol to each his own. Whatever works for the Marriage.

bukatyne:


But you wouldn't run your husband's bath and scrub his back?

Everyday? As a duty? Or just lovey dovey thingy ?

yettymuse:
it is Hard!.. In fact, very hard! It's a lot of work! Servitude takes your time and zaps your energy!.... This is the Submission we all don't want to hear.. It's far more than 'just sex'.. It is a lifestyle.. It is only easy to deliver when you are not paying bills! (a)

.. in other light, with lesser time and `energy` Making money is fun and enterprising plus plenty bragging rights and controlling power for a woman in a masculine world... (b)

...here, she would literally use her money to 'buy`submission, Only a foolish man would ask you come and run his bath, cook him a sumptuous dinner, give him a warm massage and make him relish his weird sexual fantasies without holding back..when she's just returning from work at 11pm....
here she pays the bill or SUPPORT as the case may be
....

Growing up in a typical Black community, most female grew up with the mindset (b) .. Some joined the train along the line...

But Men will always be men!.... Only a tiny percentage
No one can change that..

The women from Group B are beginning to cry premium tears, anonymous threads everywhere,.. 'dogs' biting the hands that fed them, women going bunkers, finances gone down, society hitting at them!!
..20/30/40/50 years of `building my man' is finally collapsing the minute her libido goes dry and breasts fallen, wrinkled eyes and better days, bones frail and beauty fades...
........ Oga Thomas wants a fresh young blood...now that money has come, Barbara the Builder can take a rest, Regina lo n so lowlowo!!
. Don't blame him, "afterall his a man"

They finally realized that `no evil has befallen the women in group A contrary to what the society fed them!.

... They realized they are the prize and the beat is starting to change, the dancefloor is becoming hot and everything is taking a different turn.. It is becoming survival of the fittest!

At the end of day, it's whatever rocks anyone's boat!
But always remember say only your own hands would never disappoint you as a woman. Your own money is your shock absorber. You need to make your own money to avoid nonsense!

.... But you see Man money...na goldmine... na him sweet pass! Pray to chop am, no be noise.. Your life go soft!

woman wey man dey spoil no get two heads abeg

You are very right.

Paying bills is easier than catering to your man (wouldn't say family because a mother would traditionally do anything for her kids)

Yep, typical black community hypes B above A.

Hence the tags 'Strong Independent Black Woman' If you are not going to rely on your husband (Spiritually, Physically, Emotionally, Financially etc.) why marry?

And this goes both ways.

Funny enough, men never do this independent sh*t. The moment they are in a relationship, they leverage on the woman's strengths to make a formidable team.

I wonder why I have never heard 'Strong Independent White Woman'

yettymuse:
Hello hello one two one two!! Eskis ma, whatever rocks your boat

Whatever rocks my boat for sure, I will always put MYSELF first and do what gives me joy.

I just don't tell myself stories to sleep better because deep down I doubt the choices I have made.

Mariangeles:


Are you mistaking me for Ybaby? Because I think you are
Don't try to play smart by twisting my words.

Nope, I don't twist people's words.

I responded to you properly.

Go and read your post again.

Wtf.
Some people and their cave mentality sha.

Palema007:
Everyday? As a duty? Or just lovey dovey thingy ?

Catering is best from a place of lovey dovey. which can be everyday

That is the difference between a wife and a mistress (even though hers is propelled by money)

bukatyne:


You are very right.

Paying bills is easier than catering to your man (wouldn't say family because a mother would traditionally do anything for her kids)

Yep, typical black community hypes B above A.

Hence the tags 'Strong Independent Black Woman' If you are not going to rely on your husband (Spiritually, Physically, Emotionally, Financially etc.) why marry?

And this goes both ways.

Funny enough, men never do this independent sh*t. The moment they are in a relationship, they leverage on the woman's strengths to make a formidable team.

I wonder why I have never heard 'Strong Independent White Woman'

Most women do both. Pay bills and look after their family so stop hyping yourself.

A white woman will say "strong independent woman" because color plays no major role in their experience and identity building. One of the reasons they find it so hard to acknowledge the privilege that comes with it.

Palema007:
"when he gets home from work, run a warm bath, scrub his back, massage his lower brain and let him release his stress inside you, give him vitamins, pray for him, make sure the kids are well looked after and house is clean, delicious food and lots of peace"

And you wonder why they are so easy to replace, sent packing,kicked out and maltreated?. Lol. When you importance ends at being a intimacy gadget and house cleaner don't cry when you are treated as such.

"Do women support Dangote or Otedola? " The question should be How many Dangotes or Otedola do we have in Nigeria?

"How can a woman pay a child's school?" Is the child not hers too? What sane woman will have her child sent out of school because she is waiting for the husband to provide.?

So many jargons in one post! Just imagine!

You’re a very wise fellow.

bukatyne:


Nope, I don't twist people's words.


I responded to you properly.

Go and read your post again.

Yes, you do and you did with my words.

Now, let us see:

Do I believe a woman should make money? Yes
Do I believe a woman should support her husband? Yes
Do I believe a woman should equally share the responsibilities of her husband? No

Hathor5:


Most women do both. Pay bills and look after their family so stop hyping yourself.

A white woman will say "strong independent woman" because color plays no major role in their experience and identity building. One of the reasons they find it so hard to acknowledge the privilege that comes with it.

You can not effectively look after your family while you are working (this has nothing to do with paying bills; bill payers and non-bill payers work same hours).

If I tell you to point ONE point I hyped myself, you can't even point half.

You don't know if I am a housewife, working bill paying wife or working bill non-paying wife YET you are talking about hype.

Hype ko, Hypo ni.

bukatyne:


You also had an agenda inviting Y.baby to this thread with that post.

As in eh,I don’t understand why he invited y.baby and her comrades to this thread.

Mariangeles:


How else can a man show his love for his family if not by working hard to provide for them?

On fathers' day, a man uploaded a picture of him with his children on his whatsapp status and captioned it " You make the hustle worth it" those words have deep meanings.

Let us tell ourselves the truth. It is what it is.
I'll keep saying God's truth no matter what.
Stop deceiving men like Romangalactic to appear "better" than other women.
If you doubt, study your bible. God hath made it so.

@Mariangeles,

Is this your response to me or not?

Have I stated a bill sharing formular on this thread?

Yet you assumed I supported equal contribution and was deceiving men like Romanus.

bukatyne:


Catering is best from a place of lovey dovey. which can be everyday

That is the difference between a wife and a mistress (even though hers is propelled by money)

Do you scrub your husband's back and run his bath everyday?

Is scrubbing back and running bath water all that's needed to make one a WIFE?

bukatyne:


You can not effectively look after your family while you are working (this has nothing to do with paying bills; bill payers and non-bill payers work same hours).

If I tell you to point ONE point I hyped myself, you can't even point half.

You don't know if I am a housewife, working bill paying wife or working bill non-paying wife YET you are talking about hype.

Hype ko, Hypo ni.

Just because you can't does not mean others can't.

I know you have a job that sucks. You mentioned it on Klass thread where she tagged you and where she tagged me.

You are very easy to read Buka. I can tell you more about you than you know about yourself and I am not even a self-proclaimed mindreader.

Palema007:
Do you scrub your husband's back and run his bath everyday?

Is scrubbing back and running bath water all that's needed to make one a WIFE?

@Bold, you will never know

Second paragraph: nope

bukatyne:


Is money the only thing a husband is to provide? Is money the only way a husband shows his love?

What about this your question to me? Did I ever say money was the only way a husband shows love to his family prior to this?

Hathor5:


Just because you can't does not mean others can't.

I know you have a job that sucks. You mentioned it on Klass thread where she tagged you and where she tagged me.

You are very easy to read Buka. I can tell you more about you than you know about yourself and I am not even a self-proclaimed mindreader.

Hahahahaahhahahaha

I don't like my job/ working 9 - 5. I am tired of it I said it myself so you did not discover or unearth the 8th wonder of the world.

You cannot effectively work out of the home and run the home as it should be.

Well, maybe you can be at two places at the same time, I can't and I concede to that.

bukatyne:


@Bold, you will never know

Second paragraph: nope

Lol I will never know because answering that sincerely will bring out the flaw in your submission. Unless the person is an handicap, you will never do it EVERYDAY! . BTW I can run my husband's bath water I'm chanced willing and scrub his back (the only problem is ,he might end up taking that bath over and over again)


So why hammer on it like that's the only ticket to being a WIFE?