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Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 7:19am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:So, you were indoctrinated, then you started asking questions. I'm glad you did since it seems you did not really know much until you asked questions. I'll give you something in return before going on. I was born into a family that had no time for gods, and in a country where gods did not roam the streets, unlike in Nigeria where they are everywhere, and I did not hear about them until I was 7 and arrived in Nigeria. You may read the rest of my story here. Now, back to you. You say you needed to ask question as this God logic was really not helping you. Would that "logic" be the existence of God, or an understanding of the book about God? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 7:21am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:as in he created us , he should directly be responsible for us , not us hearing from another man God's logic or what God wants , give me a few to go through the post |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 7:31am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Real name? Now, how would you happen to know that? Did you read it in a book perhaps, and are you claiming it is the name of a person who actually existed? What exactly did this Yehus[h]ua Hamaschiach do that makes you hate him so much, or is it just the anglicisation of his name that you hate? And, what exactly did he do that makes you see him as a monster? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 7:33am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:I see why you ask these questions now , .. you know , but want to know |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 7:39am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Because he supposedly created us, he should take care of us too? Why should he? Is that not like saying because your parents gave birth to you they should be responsible for you? Should your parents be responsible for you all through your life and even after they are dead too even though they might have given you the tools to stand on your own two feet? And why, for Christ sake, would you be "hearing from another man God's logic or what God wants"? Can't you read and understand for yourself? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 7:43am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:I did twice And he did promise not to leave us , that '''if the birds of the air never lack food how much more we his children' So many many quotes on false protection , false hope and motivation But you already know these things , |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 7:43am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Do note that I am asking about your own understanding. I do not know, Sourcerer, and yes, I do want to know, and there's absolutely no way for me to know about you unless I ask and you tell me. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 7:46am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:good ! Now towing that line , are we not to ask our'father ' questions and he answers them as simple as it was asked ? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 7:56am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Intelligence was beaten out of you and your senses stolen? Sounds like you were born fully formed and your parents then made you, forgive me, but stupid is the only word I can think of here. I did not have that experience myself. All my beatings were to beat sense into me, though I must admit that they were working within their own understanding, which, looking back, was not exactly perfect, but I can't say they made me stupid. I mean, that would have been uberstupid of them since I am my parent's investment, my mother tells me. If my parents had stolen my senses, I think their returns on me might be a lot less than what they currently are, don't you think? It would be like crippling their horse and losing its value, which is a very stupid thing to do. Another word for it would be bad parenting. Were you badly parented, Sourcerer? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by sinkhole: 7:58am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:WAO, that's something serious there! I am not really an atheist because I believe in supernatural existence but these Gods of Christianity and Islam, they confuse a lot! Ogun is very well at home with amadioha while Buddha will say you have to be in harmony with nature but Christian/Muslim God simply hates everybody, He always order His followers to kill and destroy everybody else, e.g., Protestants and Catholics in Britain, boko haram in Africa/Nigeria! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 8:01am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:no , tbh they are great , really great parents I'm literally from a perfect home (lack of subtler word) And by beaten intelligence out I meant the average Religious African home How I became what I am ? I guess some goods just leave the factory broken |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 8:04am On Jun 29, 2020 |
sinkhole:it's logical for their hatred since they are sister religion from the prime Judaism , it is only normal for one to get mad at the other one over '''doctrines' mare doctrines of a man at the pulpit that practically only knows bussiness and mental manipulation And yes people die because of differences in doctrines , they tag it Religious war , imagine 2 messangers coming to a peaceful village with 2 scrolls from the same king , and these villagers really believing it was from a king/god , do you still see peace and unity ruling that village ? No it would be utter discord and wars arguments trying to prove this scroll rightly came from the king /god , while the messangers on horses just sway they horses and move their way never hearing from them again That's how this world is now |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 8:28am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Indeed we are to question, though the answer would depend on one's parents ability to answer or who else one asks. Some just hate children asking questions, or they don't know how to answer simply. Me though, I'll ask and take the beatings, and still ask, but I do confess that I was brought up to ask questions, as you can see here. Even my nursery education was, Who what When where why how, as you'd see here too. And if those around me can't answer my questions I'll go do my own research. Not all questions can be answered by others, is the point of my ramble. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 8:29am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:I am not asking about "the average Religious African home", Sourcerer, I am asking specifically about you and your own experience. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 8:34am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:No Sourcerer! Nobody and nothing promised not to leave you, "that '''if the birds of the air never lack food how much more we his children"! Do not lie to me please! Is it not true that you merely read it in a book, twice, you tell me, this so called promise not to leave you, and that '''if the birds of the air never lack food how much more we his children"? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 8:35am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:was forced to love God , his son , his mother Mary , the Angels , and I was thought hate , to hate sin , hate the devil and look at other Religions one way ... .. See how Religion creates hate? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 8:37am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:I know you know the bible said so . .... I'm trying to see where you're coming from , because like me I ask but seek another from your response What exactly do you want to know Brother 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 9:20am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:and I really didn't mean what I said , I did then , but tbh I feel guilt , you're pratically sential , you are God . You define your reality , we are in the same building but it seems different floors 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 9:42am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:No, Sourcerer, I do not see how religion creates hate. What I do see is some humans teaching a hateful form of religion in a hateful way. And yes, such teachings create hate. But why are you blaming the God book, or God, or Jesus for that hatred? Are they responsible for the hatred of humans? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 9:48am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:I know, Sourcerer, lol. You hadn't heard that we do not insult buda or you didn't care, but I knew you'd see the error of your ways in due time. Everyone does, or they go around feeling disturbed whenever they see my name. Same building but different floors though? Please do not forget that buda is a theist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 9:49am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:I know but not a believer I may be buda. .. someday ,, ,,well till then My balance is from dicipline meditation and determination What brings you balance? |
Re: Not For Atheists! by LordReed(m): 9:55am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum: Which is why I am switching to advocating humanism. I am slowly developing my appetite for it and would love to immerse myself in it. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 9:59am On Jun 29, 2020 |
LordReed:I just don't need tags , we are Freethinking humans , it's as simple as that , God doesn't have to be the basics of anything concerning a Free thinker |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 10:00am On Jun 29, 2020 |
LordReed: Humanism is not for me trust me , |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 10:01am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum: Buda is not buddah Hmm you created your Religion . |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 10:03am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Remember I called you a theist and that I was insulting you? Here you go again being a theist! Do tell, does your Bible speak? What I want is to understand the sort of atheist you are, since the word has had many meanings thru the years. Socrates did not believe in the gods of his community and so was an atheist, for instance. And Jesus Christ was crucified for his atheism of not believing as his community expected him to. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 10:07am On Jun 29, 2020 |
LordReed:Interesting, my Lord. You want to adopt the ideology of loving ones neighbours and enemies. It's called the Golden Rule for a reason. And if you check, there's no rule of greater value than gold. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by LordReed(m): 10:10am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum: Yes. Have you heard of A C Grayling? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 10:14am On Jun 29, 2020 |
TheSourcerer:Buda is obviously not buddah nor Buddha. And no, I have not created my own religion. What I have done is become as a child, as in, abandon all preconceptions, and approach the religious texts anew. Its amazing how many try to fill one with their own misconceived ideas while claiming their Bible spoke to them. |
Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 10:16am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:here are my believes Karma does not exist What will be will be Life is not predestined I believe in Aliens I did not believe in evolution until early this year (reasons later , evolution happens but not the beginning of man) I believe life must exist no matter what , even if it's debris in space life must exist Nobody has died and come back I know there's no reincarnation Shadowmen are Aliens We have other species of human than we know now No one has seen the spiritual (exception of mental illness causing hullicenations) And if the spirits really do exist then we should be more powerful , and they scared of us and not the other way around I believe In Death I believe bad things will happen to good people and good things will also happen to good people , in inverse it's still the same We are not of this world literally Animals do , We cook our food before we eat , we have no defensive biological mecanism I partly believe in cryptids ( big foot , yeti , lochness (hoax), Himalayas man, ) I believe in mermaids (not spirit at all) As they are sea horses , sea lions , even sea snakes and rodents so why won't there be a see-human or as least look suite 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: Not For Atheists! by budaatum: 10:24am On Jun 29, 2020 |
LordReed:His God Argument: The Case against Religion and for Humanism, you mean. Yes, my Lord. He is required reading for the Humanist Society, to which I used to subscribe. Have you noticed that my own 'religion' of not believing, if I may call it that, is not dependent on God's existence? 1 Like
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Re: Not For Atheists! by TheSourcerer: 10:28am On Jun 29, 2020 |
budaatum:For the first Asterisked you may not but I do , which makes it both our opinions (let's agree to disagree) 2nd part i agree with but you know they preach this way because it was written you must go to the four corners of the world (btw earth is not flat duh) They preach hate about other religion as other sister religions do , even sister monks protest and dispose each other due to difference in doctrines and rites , made a post about that btw Now I blame God Jesus Mohamed for this hate because like the analogy I made about the king sending two different messangers at different times with different orders (mostly hating on the previous messager) , leaving the villagers hanging , ...confused and yeah killing each other on which of the messanger was right , was there even a message to begin with , if the king loved his people so much ,why conflicting texts ? Why not come and explain in your own words let us know you as a father Killings and rapes in random areas churches and mosques and he could not do nothing? Now tell me what's the diffrdiffe between Uwa a believer and Jane an unbeliver ? They both got raped I the church , they both were killed , But no the stupid bible goes further to tell us since UWa was a chrisysch she will be with him in paradise but Jane can go to hell because she was not a believer .. ..... Why now answer me this should I remain an Atheist . |
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