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Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by nna777: 7:47pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
nna777: As qualification day is tomorrow, We might likely see march low (intra day). For those interested. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 8:10pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
nna777: It is after markdown date (on 1st July 2020) that I will call out Meshpips and we will compare notes again on what we said about NAHCO. After markdown, expect full offer then March low will be reached. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Valueinvestor: 8:39pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
Bjrokenhear003:Hold current units,as long as you,are in it for the long term,if it crashes further,that makes it juicier, just average down systematically.Even at current price that's a div yield of 12.5% which is still cool.A share buy back is a strong catalyst that should not be overlooked o.Happy investing 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Valueinvestor: 8:46pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
smitten99:Nestle that has not even started ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Umargarr(m): 10:00pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
Hello house, please is anyone with info on JBerger bonus? Thanks in advance. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Heishere: 10:07pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
Umargarr: I never even see the dividend sef 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by BullBearMkt(m): 10:33pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
Heishere:...Check my Daily Review of the market on Youtube. I discussed AIICO (and 5 most active stocks today) at end of the video, take a look if it can be helpful, however, sections analysis is good to look at as well - Best Of Luck https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OIFWqIq6M4E ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() 5 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 10:43pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
gold360: Let me help u. The way to this is to apply the concept of TIME VALUE FOR MONEY to know if ur better off collecting the bank loan. There are 2 key lines to verify this: The 1st scenario is where u work for ur money while the 2nd is where u allow ur money to work for u. SCENARIO 1; The 1st thing u need to ask urself is; would that amount I'd receive from the bank/loan firm today be worth what I'd give back in 3 yrs? Put differently, would that N708,508 u'll get today really worth paying back N947,880 in 3 yrs? The idea is to look to ensure that u got a better VALUE from the "weight" btw the funds borrowed and the interest paid at maturity. That "weight" draws from the risk-reward margin. Hence, we need to estimate the PRESENT VALUE(PV) of that future value(N947,880) u'll pay to the firm at maturity, then compare it to what they're offering u now to see if its truly a worthy move. Based on the data u provided; Future value FV= 947,880 Our interest rate p/a will be a peg that's >/= current inflation rate(@12.4%). So r=12.4%= 0.124 while n= 3. Now using the formula for PRESENT VALUE, PV= FV/[(1+r)^n)] Therefore PV= 947,880/[(1+0.124)^3]= 947,880/(1.124)^3 ...which should simplify as approx N667,505 So in essence, that N947,880 u'll pay in 3 yrs is actually worth N667,505 today. The interpretation of this is that the firm is offering u an approx N41,000 more than(i.e 708,508 - 667,505) the actual value of what u should naturally get, based on current economic realities.(raking-off value eroding inflationary risk) ...which makes it a good deal on the surface. But we still can't draw a conclusion from this alone. Now let's dig a little more... SCENARIO 2; What if u were to invest that monthly remittance u'll be paying to the firm(N23,330.70) on ur own, and compound it over the same 3 yr period? ...more like looking to see if u can get that money u'll derive from ur salary deductions to work for u, rather than borrow and work for the money. ...would it be more valuable? Again, we need to do an estimate, but this time, it'll be with a different formula... the FUTURE VALUE OF ANNUITY WITH CONTINUOUS COMPOUNDING. The idea is to find out if u would be better off saving that monthly N23,330.70 in a fixed income instrument(say fixed/time deposit) by estimating the future value of that amount in 3 yrs. Using the formula for future value of annuity with continuous compounding, FVa= CF[(e^rt-1)/(e^r-1)] where CF connotes ur initial cash flow(i.e N23,330.70) Most banks will offer u btw 5-6% cap on fixed deposit, so we'll equate r as 6%, which is a generous/best case scenario. Hence rate prorated monthly= 6/12=0.5%... so r=0.5%= 0.005 t is the time period= 36 as we have a 3 yr period expanded in months.(i.e 12x3) while e is the Euler's constant. Therefore, FVa= 23,330.70[(e^0.005x36)-1)/(e^0.005)-1)] Which will simplify as approx 917,945 So FVa=N917,945 The interpretation of this is that ur monthly salary cashflow of N23,330.70 @ the best(6%) interest rate can have a value power of N917,945 in 3 yrs. Again, notice how this value is N29,935 less than(i.e 947,880 - 917945) what u would've paid the bank at maturity should u decide to go for the loan. If it were more, then investing the money(from ur salary deductions) urself would've been the way to go, but since its less, it simply means u would derive less margin(value) from saving/investing ur salary inflow than u would from the loan. Hence, since both scenarios shows u are better off collecting the loan, then indeed, u are better off. ...so YES, its a fair deal. JUST GO COLLECT THE MONEY FROM THE LOAN FIRM my dear !! NOTE: Ensure u take ur time to read through the T&C of the loan agreement before appending ur signature. Most financial bodies will often include "hidden" clauses that infer additional interest-bearing charges, which could potentially mean that u'll actually have to pay more than that FV peg of N947,880. If possible, seek the guidance of a reputable investment banker/adviser and/or lawyer/solicitor to help demystify any agreement in context, before executing any deal. ...this is VERY IMPORTANT !! Pls do well to be guided accordingly. Hope this helps. 23 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 10:52pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
stcool: ![]() ![]() ![]() Even u ur eyes don begin clear small small !! ![]() ![]() ![]() I love that man Mr TIME !! ...for he always has a way of setting matters straight before putting them in their right perspective. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by brandable: 11:03pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
onegentleguy: ![]() Oga are you a financial analyst by profession. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by PharmAlfred: 11:17pm On Jun 29, 2020 |
onegentleguy: OGG always has answers. Kudos chief. You are in the financial/investment sector. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by bigjay01(m): 1:54am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: Reminds me of ENG 212 (Engineering Economics.) @ FUTO 30yrs ago ![]() ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by meshpips(m): 2:23am On Jun 30, 2020 |
RabbiDoracle: I will be waiting! |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 7:18am On Jun 30, 2020 |
Justcul:clear support yet to weeks after its highest weekly close at 23.50 (yr highs i think) , its continues to pull back , let it find support ! 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 7:50am On Jun 30, 2020 |
DeRuggedProf: loll village pipu get assoc ?? 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by fxuser: 8:01am On Jun 30, 2020 |
PETERiCHY: - willing seller met a more willing buyer ! loll (last week close = bullish close with higher weekly opening shows dominant bias ) 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 8:30am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 10:11am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: Nice calculation. I also noticed that with 12.4% inflation rate from scenario one, #708,508 received today will be worth 708,508 × (1 - 0.124)^3 = #476,274 (in today's money) in 3 years time . From the point of wealth preservation, if I am correct, unless the money is yielding more than 12.4% annually it will end up losing value in the next 3 years. An then, u also add the original loan to it, and it becomes obvious that atleast 23% yearly is needed to maintain breakeven. I never really understood this inflation thing sha. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 10:17am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: onegentleguy: Now that Mr NEIMETH has restarted its full bid move, nobody is talking again. The stock has been on full bid for 4 days delivering maximum day to day gains. ...yet NO one is calling it Mr P & D anymore. ![]() ![]() ![]() Well, those who headed the call above and re-entered below the lower price band should be smiling on 40% return by now.(see 1st post above) The 2nd post above was a buy signal for those who understood the "not a bad thing" part of the statement... at the time the coy dropped below the 1.40 lower band to 1.20+. Which was a juicy entry peg for those wishing to join in a 2nd rise. Those in should take up their reward as it suits them.(considering their personality, investment horizon and goal) It is well. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 10:37am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: And how much is currently moving the price? Why not tell us that first. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 10:41am On Jun 30, 2020 |
GonFreecss1: You mean volume wise? |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 10:42am On Jun 30, 2020 |
More Sterling below 1.25 loaded My second jackpot after UACN ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 10:43am On Jun 30, 2020 |
ositadima1: Yep. The current rise. Let him multiply units sold by the value in naira and tell us. I still stand by the fact that it is pump and dump. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 10:45am On Jun 30, 2020 |
GonFreecss1: Same 100K block volume that moves other stocks like Nestle. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 10:49am On Jun 30, 2020 |
RabbiDoracle: Lool! Thank you sir! 100,000 blocks of Nestle is what again? Over a 100 million naira... 100,000 blocks of Neimeth is what again? How many people here can “Key” into this without being a greater fool? ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 10:50am On Jun 30, 2020 |
RabbiDoracle: Why u dey bother urself naw? ![]() ![]() ![]() ...abeg leave @ GonFreecss1. Lets just agree to his view. ...NEIMETH is a P & D coy. ![]() ![]() ![]() He is RIGHT !! 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by ositadima1(m): 10:54am On Jun 30, 2020 |
onegentleguy: In a way he is right, one below average investor can single handedly move the market. It is harder to do with NESTLE. |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 10:56am On Jun 30, 2020 |
@ stcool,your #2 fidelity is now our prey at 1.71-1.75. One guy just do gra gra early morning to buy 2m units at 1.77/1.78 and we decided to park below that price.we are almost done. Expect your ministry to move forward onwards. 2 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by stcool(m): 11:00am On Jun 30, 2020 |
locodemy: I don put my fidelity on hold..I need substantial unit of Sterling at a good bargain before I resume fidelity ![]() |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by onegentleguy: 11:02am On Jun 30, 2020 |
ositadima1: NO its not "in a way"... he is totally correct. NEIMETH is nothing but a bunch of P & D coy. ![]() ![]() ![]() So both of u are RIGHT my dear !! ![]() ![]() ![]() It is well. 1 Like |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by GonFreecss1: 11:04am On Jun 30, 2020 |
I don’t want to believe anyone here will buy a liquid ZenithBank at 100 naira at the same fundamentals as now because Zenith is ready to sell face masks or something. Not to talk of an illiquid asset, that a couple of thousands will move down or up. If you like do all the Jacobian transformations or Laplace transformations you know. It doesn’t change what it is. 3 Likes |
Re: Nigerian Stock Exchange Market Pick Alerts by Nobody: 11:04am On Jun 30, 2020 |
stcool: You can buy more fidelity now to average down else you will have no other option than to exit with us at that your #2 junction. After today,we will not allow the price to sell below this 1.71-75 you are seeing now. Cc: chibuking |
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