rvp20182:
The genesis of hatred of South African brands can be traced to brutal beer wars btw EABL and South Africa's SABMiller in 1990s.

Many years ago our local brewer, East African Breweries Limited (EABL), was facing a major new threat. Castle, a huge brand owned by South African Breweries, had announced its entry into our local market. It was coming in with big money, a big plant and big plans.

One of the key strategic decisions made in response by EABL was simple: fly the flag. Cloak local beers in patriotism to see off the usurper.

It worked. Kenya’s Tusker brand was clothed in the colours of the flag. A series of adverts focusing on national identity exhorted Kenyans to support their own. Other responses were also deployed, but the patriotic positioning was key. Castle had only limited success in the Kenyan market, and eventually scaled down its plans and arranged an amicable exit.

Patriotism lol

We in SA you fail cos you not good enough not because you we use patriotism, when you not good we reject you if you good we accept you

It's simple as that. No need for manipulation lol

Just not in Kenya or East Africa. EABL kick arse in the region - Kenya, TZ, Uganda, and Rwanda. South Africa has big conglomerate but we don't fear them - we compete with them and send them back - minus their shirts.

Austine1213:


SABMiller grew from its original South African base into a global company with operations in both developed markets and emerging economies such as Eastern Europe, China and India. It is one of the world's largest brewers, with brewing interests and distribution agreements across six continents.

Exited kenya,,, while being 2nd largest brewer no big deal

After the merger between Anheuser Busch Inbev and SABMiller, the new Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV company owns over 200 beer brands including Budweiser and Bud Light, Corona, Stella Artois, Beck's, Leffe, Hoegaarden, Skol, Brahma, Antarctica, Quilmes, Victoria, Modelo Especial, Michelob Ultra, Harbin, Sedrin, Klinskoye, Sibirskaya Korona, Chernigivske, Cass and Jupiler. Anheuser-Busch InBev SA/NV also owns a soft drinks business that has bottling contracts with PepsiCo through its subsidiary, AmBev

Baliv254:


4. Tumaini stores

5. Tuskys supermarkets

rvp20182:
The question - ShopRite came - like the rest - and have beaten the dust again. Now Kenya retail might not be in South Africa level - but it's 2nd best in Sub-Sahara Africa.

What's your question?

If Chinese or Indian or US companies were to descend on your market like South Africa firms did in Africa post apartheid - you gotta throw everything at them. Otherwise, you'd have done to us what you have done to the rest of Africa - own us. If you owned our retail sector - you'd have started to import south African eggs and manufactured goods. But I am happy ShopRite has lost hope and is going back with huge losses.

That beer war gave Kenyans and Kenya corporate the belief to take on the bigger south African firms coming with lots of rands.

Austine1213:

Patriotism lol

We in SA you fail cos you not good enough not because you we use patriotism, when you not good we reject you if you good we accept you

It's simple as that. No need for manipulation lol

Why do South Africa companies insist on coming to Kenya - when there is enough evidence since 1990s - that they cannot hack it? Why not go to Nigeria or Ghana.

Anyway, we are coming from you - we are circling around Zambia - Malawi- Mozambique.

Austine1213:


What's your question?

Quickmart.

Baliv254:


5. Tuskys supermarkets

6. Chandarana supermarkets
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Mombasa...

rvp20182:
Just not in Kenya or East Africa. EABL kick arse in the region - Kenya, TZ, Uganda, and Rwanda. South Africa has big conglomerate but we don't fear them - we compete with them and send them back - minus their shirts.

SA got more hold in east africa

Nile Special – Uganda
Owned by SABMiller but brewed in the birthplace of the Nile River in Jinja, Uganda

When the two brewers reached a settlement in which they divided the beer market in East Africa among themselves. Castle agreed to exit Kenya, and EABL decided to leave the Tanzanian market to the SABMiller subsidiary.

Westlands boom.

rvp20182:
Why do South Africa companies insist on coming to Kenya - when there is enough evidence since 1990s - that they cannot hack it? Why not go to Nigeria or Ghana.

Anyway, we are coming from you - we are circling around Zambia - Malawi- Mozambique.

Zambia? Forget it

Malawi? Forget it

Mozambique? Forget it


Heck even uganda, Tanzania we got more influence

The biggest brewer in Uganda - UBL - is owned by EABL. We are right back in Tanzania - and South Sudan.

But South Africa Distell bought KWAL - Kenya wine agencies from gov - they may succeed.

Kenya's EABL - run the East Africa beer market - SABMiller cannot compete.

Current group companies
Kenya Breweries Limited (KBL) – Nairobi, Kenya- 100% Shareholding -Established in Kenya in 1922. The company's core business is brewing of Beer and bottling of non-alcoholic malt beverages.[8]
Uganda Breweries Limited (UBL) – Port Bell, Uganda - 98.2% Shareholding - UBL has been a brewer in Uganda since 1946.[9]
United Distillers Vintners (Kenya) Limited (UDV) – Nairobi, Kenya - 46.32% Shareholding - UDV was established in 1962. UDV Kenya Limited is majority owned by Diageo PLC, which holds 53.68% shares. EABL manages the company on behalf of Diageo. Its core business is the manufacture, marketing and sales of spirit based alcoholic beverages. It also imports and distributes premium spirit brands from the parent company.[10]
International Distillers Uganda Limited (IDU) – Port Bell, Uganda - 100% Shareholding - Acquired in June 2012 from Selviac Nederland, is a subsidiary of Guinness UDV.[11] The company manufactures, markets and sales of spirits in Uganda.
East African Maltings (Kenya) Limited – Nairobi, Kenya - 100% Shareholding - EAML-Kenya plays a vital role of supplying quality brewing raw materials in the form of Malt, Barley and Sorghum to the brewing units of the EABL group in Kenya.
East African Maltings (Uganda) Limited - Kampala, Uganda - 100% Shareholding - EAML-Uganda plays a vital role of supplying quality brewing raw materials in the form of Malt, Barley and Sorghum to the brewing units of the EABL group in Uganda.
EABL International Limited – Nairobi, Kenya - 100% Shareholding - EABLi (formerly EABL Venture) was set up in 2009, the venture's business was to focus on building the Spirits business in Eastern Africa and driving the geographic expansion through greater focus to drive a total beverage business and through expansion into new markets such as The Great Lakes Region. EABLi operates in Southern Sudan, Rwanda, Burundi and DRC through third party supply, exports, and covering the spirits portfolio for both domestic and duty-free sales as well as beer sales in the markets where the group does not have local operations.[12]

Bottle of Serengeti Premium Lager
Serengeti Breweries Limited (SBL) - Dar Es Salaam, Tanzania - 51% Shareholding - SBL is the second largest beer company in Tanzania, with a market share of approximately 28% of the Tanzanian branded beer sector. The company was incorporated in 1988 as Associated Breweries Limited. Its name was changed to Serengeti Breweries Limited in 2002. EABL acquired 51% of the issued share capital of SBL in October 2010.[13]
East African Beverages South Sudan Limited (EABSS) - Juba, South Sudan - 99% Shareholding - EABSS commenced operations in 2013 with the set-up of a depot in Juba from which it would supply beer and spirits to its distributors.

Austine1213:


SA got more hold in east africa

Nile Special – Uganda
Owned by SABMiller but brewed in the birthplace of the Nile River in Jinja, Uganda

When the two brewers reached a settlement in which they divided the beer market in East Africa among themselves. Castle agreed to exit Kenya, and EABL decided to leave the Tanzanian market to the SABMiller subsidiary.

Remove SADC - that you control - and we can even things out. But let see Africa Free Trade - let hope the Ghanians can get it off ground.

Austine1213:


Zambia? Forget it

Malawi? Forget it

Mozambique? Forget it


Heck even uganda, Tanzania we got more influence

Austine1213:


Kenyan blogger Ms Trudy thought Rocco mama was kenyan the way its huge in Kenya

Lol

we had Canadian national cricketers who were on an exchange program with our club.

The first time they saw Nandos they were surprised we have them in SA....... I had to explain to them that Nandos is a South African brand

rvp20182:
Shoprite Kenya has similar number of stores and yet 2yrs later they are running back having bite the dust. In meantime, Carrefour that came around the same time are thriving.

Nakumatt had 65 stores including in Tanzania, Rwanda, and Uganda.

But we now have 3 Kenya stores with 60 stores (Tuksy, Naivas, Quickmatt) and many more with a small number of stores.

Yes nothing compared to South Africa - but certainly the most developed retail market outside South Africa in Sub Sahara.

Your country is too fake, u fake figures to suite ur egos, some few years back, Nakumat Uchummu and Kenya airways were reporting false profits but as time goes by , the truth then begin to reveal ,all your major supermarkets chain’s creditors voted to liquidate the lose making supermarkets, same will soon happen to your banks.

Roan7:

Then why are you mentioning Nigeria, with SA not mentioned?

because I can?

rvp20182:
If Chinese or Indian or US companies were to descend on your market like South Africa firms did in Africa post apartheid - you gotta throw everything at them. Otherwise, you'd have done to us what you have done to the rest of Africa - own us. If you owned our retail sector - you'd have started to import south African eggs and manufactured goods. But I am happy ShopRite has lost hope and is going back with huge losses.

That beer war gave Kenyans and Kenya corporate the belief to take on the bigger south African firms coming with lots of rands.

Kfc, McDonald's, came but we were they were good, they coexist with our own steers, wimpy, nandos, chicken licken, rocomamas, spur, ocean basket, panarotis etc

Competition is good here

Star bucks and burger king came they strugling thou burger king is holding its own

Chinese came with its cheap cars thru were not good enough they exited, Haval n baic are better cars they holding a bit

India's Tata came with cheap quality cars the exited, india later came with new better Mahindra theythey stayed, set up manufacturing factories

Welcome to the modern corporate world. They are sharks all over. Nigeria banks will be taken to cleaners.

68816419:

Your country is too fake, u fake figures to suite ur egos, some some few years back, Nakumat Uchummu and Kenya airways were reporting false profits but as time goes by , the truth then begin to reveal ,all your major supermarkets chain’s creditors voted to liquidate the lose making supermarkets, same will soon happen to you banks.

jln115:
we had Canadian national cricketers who were on an exchange program with our club.

The first time they saw Nandos they were surprised we have them in SA....... I had to explain to them that Nandos is a South African brand

Lol damn these Canadians

rvp20182:
Shoprite Kenya has similar number of stores and yet 2yrs later they are running back having bite the dust. In meantime, Carrefour that came around the same time are thriving.

Nakumatt had 65 stores including in Tanzania, Rwanda, and Uganda.

But we now have 3 Kenya stores with 60 stores (Tuksy, Naivas, Quickmatt) and many more with a small number of stores.

Yes nothing compared to South Africa - but certainly the most developed retail market outside South Africa in Sub Sahara.

they fake figures to create good outlook for investors, but when the investors ventures in they get disappointed with the lies

We are the only country in Africa to send back South African companies through competition. A country appealing for patriotism is fair competition. You can appeal for better quality.

What Tanzania does to Kenya is abhorrent - because they use all underhand methods including arresting Kenyans on flimsy reasons, denying them work permits and enacting forex controls. And we are supposed to be in East Africa - and speak the same language. They even run to SADC and would prefer South African companies than Kenya.

Kenya you're free to come, can bring and take rands anytime, and we will stick to the international rules, but rest assured the brutal competition will send you back home, minus the shirt.

Austine1213:


Kfc, McDonald's, came but we were they were good, they coexist with our own steers, wimpy, nandos, chicken licken, rocomamas, spur, ocean basket, panarotis etc

Competition is good here

Star bucks and burger king came they strugling thou burger king is holding its own

Chinese came with its cheap cars thru were not good enough they exited, Haval n baic are better cars they holding a bit

India's Tata came with cheap quality cars the exited, india later came with new better Mahindra theythey stayed, set up manufacturing factories

jln115:
we had Canadian national cricketers who were on an exchange program with our club.

The first time they saw Nandos they were surprised we have them in SA....... I had to explain to them that Nandos is a South African brand

Recently Japan and Russian cane to learn our rugby, they wenawena learn from the best

Even US wanna learn they wena start a new league with SA rugby

jln115:
we had Canadian national cricketers who were on an exchange program with our club.

The first time they saw Nandos they were surprised we have them in SA....... I had to explain to them that Nandos is a South African brand

Once I entered a Nandos, ordered two full chickens and just left without paying. Twas a great day.

rvp20182:
Remove SADC - that you control - and we can even things out. But let see Africa Free Trade - let hope the Ghanians can get it off ground.

Drc, Angola, Uganda Ghana, nigerian are not SADC


Which country do you have market share than SA?

Austine1213:

Patriotism lol

We in SA you fail cos you not good enough not because you we use patriotism, when you not good we reject you if you good we accept you

It's simple as that. No need for manipulation lol

There was no manipulation.Tusker is the better beer.

Only South African are complaining. It's either brutal competition or they are just stupid - and sign anything without due diligence. Tiger Brands came and bought Haco Industries - only to discover lots of cooking of books - they lost their shirt - the previous owner bought back his company and Tiger brands is now out of Kenya before it could say Jambo.

Shoprite have signed 10yr deal and will have to pay the rent - before they go back - shirtless.

I pity Nigerian banks rushing to kenya Shirts you will leave. But I see they are becoming smarter and hiring Kenyans - rather than bringing Nigerians . They first got conned and got sold overvalued banks - and now they need to turn profitable - or well cut their losses.

68816419:

they fake figures to create good outlook for investors, but when the investors ventures in they get disappointed with the lies

rvp20182:
We are the only country in Africa to send back South African companies through competition. A country appealing for patriotism is fair competition. You can appeal for better quality.

What Tanzania does to Kenya is abhorrent - because they use all underhand methods including arresting Kenyans on flimsy reasons, denying them work permits and enacting forex controls. And we are supposed to be in East Africa - and speak the same language. They even run to SADC and would prefer South African companies than Kenya.

Kenya you're free to come, can bring and take rands anytime, and we will stick to the international rules, but rest assured the brutal competition will send you back home, minus the shirt.

Cheap patriotism shots lol

Was EABL thatthat scared? Lol

gallivant:


Once I entered a Nandos, ordered two full chickens and just left without paying. Twas a great day.

congrats mate glad you enjoy stealing from your own people

rvp20182:
Must be a very old brewery. Never heard of it. But Mombasa is 2nd only to Nairobi in number of industries.

So you don't even know Mombasa has a moribund brewery. Silly boy.
It was closed down because Mombasa is not a lucrative market.
Anyway, Procter and Gamble Ibadan.

We dominate East Africa - Uganda, Rwanda, Burundi, Tanzania, South Sudan - Eastern Congo, have some key presence in Ethiopia and Somalia. And we have some play in Zambia and Mozambique.

Our next playground is Congo DRC. Our first real french and central African foray. If we succeed in DRC - we will take over Central Africa.

If Ethiopia opens up - we could stay there for some time.

Eventually, we want to go to Nigeria in big-time.

Our only problem is envious Tanzania.

Austine1213:


Drc, Angola, Uganda Ghana, nigerian are not SADC


Which country do you have market share than SA?

jln115:
congrats mate glad you enjoy stealing from your own people

It's their way. That's why supermarkets are closing down in Kenya.