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Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Sheunma: 6:32am On Jun 30, 2020 |
There are different route of giving drugs to people: drugs can be swallowed, placed underneath the tongue, inserted through the anus and vagina, rubbed on the skin, injected into the vessels, injected into the muscles and underneath the skin etc etc. Infact, in today's world, drugs can be administered almost anywhere in the body. Someone who swallows antimalarial tablet has taken same drug as another who have antimalarial injected into them. They are all the same thing. It does not mean at all that people who take injections are seriously or terminally sick. A maglignant cancer patient could be placed on oral drugs while someone nail prick while working in a farm could get injections. In short, many things determine what route drugs are administered and most of the time it's not due to how serious an ailment is. It is mischievous and I dare say ignorant to say I have not taken ingection in years when you gulp loads of tablets down your gut in the name of multivitamins every single day. My father is hypertensive and basically moves about with packets of assorted antihypertensive drugs. Since I knew to differentiate by right from my left hand, I do not remember him take injections for anything. I wish MOGs would stop saying things like this. Some of their listeners and followers most often than not, in what I describe as blind Faith, lean toward the extreme by refusing medications in whatever form even for potentially life threatening illnesses. Many people rely on religious leaders for directions and decision making in almost all aspects of their lives and statements like this is could be potentially dangerous to them and family members. 1 Like |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:04am On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Let me help you here: God is all powerful and he sent his son to the world so that all men can be saved. John 3:16. But are all men saved? No. Why? Because all men have free will. He created us as free moral agents- agents of choice. You either choose to believe in him or not. He doesn’t force anyone even though he is all-powerful. Same way Jesus is all powerful to heal but he cannot force this power on anyone. You either choose to believe in him and get healed or disbelieve him and remain sick. What happened in his home country was that they disbelieved him, and so he couldn’t force anything on them. Does this change his all-powerful status. No. Think about it... |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:12am On Jun 30, 2020 |
XXXXTENTACION: Because they are ignorant of the divine health provision that has been made for then by Jesus Christ. Matt 8:17. People perish for lack of knowledge. Hosea 4:6 |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Goke7: 7:29am On Jun 30, 2020 |
Bishop is just all about the numbers, attendance and figures, those things don't impress God as He doesn't dwell in temples made with human hands. You can't plant 1 million churches, who cares? Are the folks in those churches truly living the Christian life as enshrined in scriptures? Not all can be deceived with all these claims of successes according to man's judgement. The Lord knoweth those who are His 2 Tim 2:19 |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 7:49am On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:i just pity for the guy. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 7:51am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:So you are saying that all those 3million people that are suffering from corona virus today is due to ignorance right ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 9:16am On Jun 30, 2020 |
XXXXTENTACION: The answer to your question is yes bro. My friend, life is demystified when you know and understand the Word of God. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 9:21am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:what of thoes that have not experienced the word of god what happens to them. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 9:31am On Jun 30, 2020 |
XXXXTENTACION: That’s why Jesus put all believers on a mission to take the gospel to the uttermost parts of the earth. For those that don’t know the Word of God yet, we keep praying for them and reaching out to them until they hear about the love and goodness of God. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 9:35am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:nigeria is one of the most religous country in the world yet we are one of the underdeveloped nations in the world why is that ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 9:44am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: Has he not been travelling abroad over the years? If he has then he must have taken the mandatory yellow fever vaccine. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by onlyfacts: 9:50am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: You his member, have you not be vaccinated before? Didn't you get at least polio, measles, tetanus vaccines etc? Did you die? Does it make you from the devil or less of a Christian? |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 10:31am On Jun 30, 2020 |
XXXXTENTACION: The reason is still ignorance. Faith in God is not leaving everything for God to do- that will be an irresponsible faith. God has told you what to do, do it and you’d get results. For example, the Bible says, “seest thou a man diligent in his business, he shall stand before kings he shall not stand before ordinary men.” Meaning, be diligent in whatever business you’re doing and you will stand out. It will be foolishness for any man to keep praying for outstanding results if he is not diligent. When you pray to God, he shows you what to do from his word. If you do it you’d enjoy the benefits, if not you will remain backward. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 11:28am On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:what of China, uk and other countries that don't believe in god yet they are successful ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by petra1(m): 11:52am On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Faith is personal. He speaks for himself .
It's an assumption . If he had lied . He would have been taken up |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 12:03pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
XXXXTENTACION: They are diligent. The Bible says, “seest thou a man diligent in his business.” Meaning any man not just a religious group, diligent in his business will succeed. By being diligent they are fulfilling scriptures and they must stand out in whatever they do. Now, if you check the history of these countries you mentioned, they have their roots in the Bible- for America they have Bible passages even in their constitution. For Uk, you’d always hear them say, “God save the queen.” Most of the top schools in the world today started out as Christian schools. My point is most of these countries are following Bible principles for success whether consciously or unconsciously, hence they are successful. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by XXXXTENTACION: 12:09pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:so na naija na im no dey follow bible ba ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by ThothHermes: 12:40pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:Bad belle. 1 Like |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 1:54pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 2:35pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:I am glad you have back-tracked on your earlier track. So will you answer the very questions that brought us here, to begin with? Whose faith healed whom? Do you need me to repost the cases again? Remember you claimed that only those who come before your man of God with faith of their own to boot can be healed.... and we have found at least two reasonable cases for where we can really understand how healing works by considering two new testament case studies... Jesus's and His apostles. ![]() .... whose belief was it, the possessed man, healed with? Jesus's belief or the possessed man's? Again, do not come back telling me that the demons' believed enough to cause themselves to be cast out by Jesus ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by backnbeta(f): 2:58pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie:You are right sir, he actually said the doctor once told him his blood pressure was high but he didn't need to take medication because he had faith in God. It's all about faith. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 2:59pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: My friend you just answered your own question. The demons believed and shuddered. Then Jesus cast them out(he even cast them out according to their desire). You just quoted James 2:19. From the passage you quoted you can see the demons speaking to Jesus in surrender. They surrendered to his all-powerful status then he reacted. When you say you have faith in God, what you are doing is believing and acknowledging his power, then he performs. This is no rocket science. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 3:23pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: ![]() WINNERSMOG:For someone who just attempted to quote James, I can't believe you would still suggest that faith is all about your belief. James did a thorough job of explaining to you that Faith is indeed not just about your beliefs, but is in fact the evidence that supports your claim that you believe. ![]() Remember the story of the lame man at the gate who asked for money and instead got healing? Well, whose faith and or belief healed him? John's?, Peter's or the lame man's? And here next, whose belief healed this man's deafness? Jesus? Or the deaf man's? Or the faith of those who brought the deaf man?
Is it the faith and belief of those who laid the sick out in the market places to have them healed that did it? Sick people, some of them probably not even conscious of the event? Or Jesus's belief?
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Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 3:28pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
backnbeta:Well, for one, not everyone who has high blood pressure is put on medication. Thanks for admitting this at least. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 3:48pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Lol. Don’t get yourself confused my friend. Faith is a very simple subject not rocket science. Faith in God is simply believing the Word of God and acting on it, then God performs. Simple example: Jesus said by virtue of his resurrection, he has carried away all our sicknesses and diseases- he has healed us(past tense). Matt 8:17/ 1 Pet 2:24. I believe it, Bishop believes it, we go about confessing it and God makes sure he keeps us healthy. Another example: the word says if we believe in Jesus as Lord and savior and we CONFESS it, then we are born again- saved from the kingdom of darkness into the kingdom of light. Anyone who does this, God saves him. Let me repeat myself, and please get understanding this time in Jesus name: faith is believing the word of God acting upon it, then God does the work. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 4:05pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:I never said Faith is rocket science. I said James did a good job expounding on what Faith really is... a collection of all your good work done in the obedience of Jesus Christ's commandment, in addition to your belief. Faith is not just a belief... it is more than just belief. WINNERSMOG:We have been healed, past tense after Jesus Christ's resurrection? OK, so the story of the lame man at the gate who asked for money and instead got healing? Well, whose faith and or belief healed him? John's? Peter's or the lame man's? WINNERSMOG:Jesus Christ said the only way to get into His kingdom is to become like a child. He also said if you are not willing to hate your father, mother, brother, wife, sister, brother, child, etc. for Him, you are not worthy of Him. The same Jesus Christ said anyone who is unwilling to die to self, pick up his own cross(not the cross of his wife/children/mother, etc. ), and follow Him, is not worthy of Him. So obviously, there is more to the meaning of the words "believing" and "confessing", and all this according to Jesus Christ Himself. WINNERSMOG:Answer the questions though. .. whose faith or belief healed whom? You said your pastor cannot heal people because those people did not come with their own faith. Yet example after example shows that the faith of those who are sick is not necessary for healing to take place. Jesus Christ showed us this over and over. His own apostles even proved this after Jesus Christ's own death and resurrection. You also admitted that demons have their own belief so they can be easily cast out of those who are possessed using the belief of the demons themselves as the catalyst. So why again does your pastor host so many sick people year after year, by telling them stories of how he has not been vaccinated or hospitalized, without healing them? ![]() ![]() ![]() Where does this understanding to condone, and accept this, even in the face of Jesus Christ's own teachings, come from? ![]() From God or from man? ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 4:24pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: How many times do you want me to answer your question. The lame man was healed by his faith in God after he had given heed to Peter and John. Peter and John had faith alright, but they had to infect the man with their faith by speaking to him. Rom 10:17- faith comes by hearing the Word of God. It seems to me that your bitterness against the likes of Bishop is blinding you from seeing what I’m trying to explain to you. The Bishop is only teaching people the Word of God so that faith can come and they will be free from everything oppressing them. In the kingdom of light you should not suffer any oppression from the kingdom of darkness- but this requires you to understand the word of God At this point I can only pray that God opens the eyes of your understanding. |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 4:30pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG:Are you sure you read of the same lame man that we all did? The man did not even know what Peter and John were about to give him, so how could it have been his faith that healed him? ![]() Whose faith was it that healed the lame man at the gate? Peter's faith or belief? John's faith or belief? Or the faith of the lame man who was not informed beforehand that he would be healed the next minute? ![]() WINNERSMOG:Can you please stick to the discussion, rather then pretending you are still psychic cause it keeps distracting your from that which is in front of you there. Jesus Christ said the only way to get into His kingdom is to become like a child. He also said if you are not willing to hate your father, mother, brother, wife, sister, brother, child, etc. for Him, you are not worthy of Him. The same Jesus Christ said anyone who is unwilling to die to self, pick up his own cross(not the cross of his wife/children/mother, etc. ), and follow Him, is not worthy of Him. Is this all a lie? You said your pastor cannot heal people because those people did not come with their own faith. Yet example after example shows that the faith of those who are sick is not necessary for healing to take place. Jesus Christ showed us this over and over. His own apostles even proved this after Jesus Christ's own death and resurrection. You also admitted that demons have their own belief so they can be easily cast out of those who are possessed using the belief of the demons themselves as the catalyst. So why again does your pastor host so many sick people year after year, by telling them stories of how he has not been vaccinated or hospitalized, without healing them? Where does this understanding to condone, and accept this, even in the face of Jesus Christ's own teachings, come from? From God or from man? |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 4:52pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
Kobojunkie: Honestly, now I really see you genuinely need knowledge and understanding, and that you’re not doing this for the sake of it. The Bishop keeps gathering people so that they can be taught the Word of God, then their faith will develop and they will be able to receive from God easily. Just like the word of God says: if there is no preacher, how will the people hear? Rims 10:14 This was the same thing Jesus was doing when he was here on earth, he had to go around preaching about the goodness of God, so that people could hear him, get faith and receive whatever they wanted from God. Go and read the gospels well, you’d notice that all that received miracles from Jesus had heard about what he was preaching, they believed, came to him and were delivered- this is the fundamentals of faith. Rom 10:17 |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Kobojunkie: 6:33pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: ![]() WINNERSMOG:Anyways, so what you are saying is that in all that time, these people have still not learned enough to develop their faith so receive from God? Jesus Christ spent less time with His apostles, and they were able to go around preaching(never really to the same crowds every time), and healing the sick and the dead, without much as demand on those who received from them. There was not a single case of person's going home disappointed. John the apostle even adviced all those who are born again to stick to Trusting on the Spirit of God inside of them to teach them all things about God... I wonder when your Bishop's "followers" will in fact get to obeying God, becoming born again where they will then receive the Spirit of God, the only teacher, guide, helper they will ever need as Children of God. ![]() God said He will teach His own about Himself... either God lied or your preacher is doing something different from what God said to do. WINNERSMOG:Jesus did not preach to the same crowd day after day, year after year. And He certainly did not linger to teach them so they could develop their faith and all. Even His own disciples had to learn to develop their faith on their own, given what Faith in fact refers to. WINNERSMOG:Not true for you see that many of those who were healed were not saved. ![]() Many of the sick had maybe heard about Him as a healer, but Him as the messiah to believe and be saved, not so. And He was not the first "healer" to show up at the time. There were many so-called healers and messiahs in the days before Jesus Christ showed up, and even after Him. Jesus Christ did not preach everywhere He healed people. There is no record of that happening. ![]() And He healed hundreds who were sick, in a matter of 3 and half years. That is what the Scripture reveals. At the time before His death, He had healed hundreds and preached to at least 5000, but He had just the 11 as his disciples to His name. ![]() |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by WINNERSMOG: 7:33pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
From looking for bus “attachments” to flying aircraftS for Jesus- Bishop David Oyedepo. “One day, we were on our way to Kaduna (I think it was night), we were running to our ‘big Church’, maybe 40 people and then we had an issue on the road. A friend of mine pressed hard for us to sleep in his house in Lokoja because we were waiting there for any kind of vehicle whether Tipper or anything that can get us to Kaduna.” “We started waiting for attachment from buses coming from the East, all attachments were filled. I told my companions on that journey, “sleep with your legs on the ground, and put your bags on your back, so anytime you want to turn, you will wake up because if you wake up one minute after 4:30 am, you will trek to Kaduna.” “As I laid my bag down, God said, ‘I will increase your greatness and comfort you on every side’ (Psalm 71:21)” “Let me tell you what happened: when the car had a problem, it was a silencer problem of the Beetle. So, I went under to see how we could tie it, my hand mistakenly touched the silencer, the heat entered my brain – Jesus. But I said, ‘Kaduna, we must get there.’” “Now, if you watch the offering in that Church, it cannot repair the silencer, so we were not running for offerings, we were running after souls- God’s greatest interests on the earth.” “But here we are now, we bought a plane without pressure, without levying people, without stealing. Amen.” “And all those places, we are now flying over them. There is no silencer in the plane, we are just flying over them.” “Serve God sacrificially. Every demand on your life is another opportunity for a change of story. Every extra demand on your life is another opportunity for your change of story. You will never miss it in the name of Jesus.” |
Re: I Haven't Received Injection In 51 Years, I Can Never Take Any Vaccine- Oyedepo by Barristter07: 8:23pm On Jun 30, 2020 |
WINNERSMOG: Wrong, Jesus healed a man who doesnt have faith in him 2 Likes |
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